[PlanetCCRMA] [Fedora-music-list] new packages in Fedora updates-testing (2010-04-10)

Niels Mayer nielsmayer at gmail.com
Sun Apr 11 14:57:18 PDT 2010

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora at gmail.com>wrote:

> flowcanvas-0.6.0 (this was already in PlanetCCRMA, now it got imported to
> Fedora) ... muse-1.0.1-2 (includes the synti path fix on 64bit systems. Also
> a rebuild was needed in F-13 to pick up proper soname deps) ...
> hydrogen- (this is a bugfix release, with the following fixes ...

I installed all the rpm's announced on (latest F12
kernel, not CCRMA's RT kernel). I tested them very briefly -- enough to
determine that they run & don't crash.

(1) Testing https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/hydrogen-
consisted of playing around with
at 120BPM instead of 60BPM :-)  I didn't exercise the new/changed items (
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=166387 )

> Build the wasp plugins

Fixes ladspa plugin path on 64bit systems

(2) My tests of
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/muse-1.0.1-2.fc12were even
less in-depth, since, as usual, I got fed-up before I got it to
produce any sounds. I did get it to flash lights on a midi box and loaded a
few plugins and their GUIs, including TX81Z/DX11 FM synth (
/usr/share/muse/presets/deicsonze/ARCH_ALIN ), VAM: Virtual Analog for MusE
( /usr/share/doc/muse-1.0.1/README.vam ), and
others, /usr/share/doc/muse-1.0.1/README.softsynth . W/r/t not getting it
working, it's just that for a supposedly easy to use system, i'm still
blocked on getting midi input from keyboards/etc to actually play or record.
(It's too bad muse doesn't have a decent preinstalled set of demos -- that's
really what helped get me up and running w/ rosegarden and hydrogen.) I'm
sure next time I spend another hour with it I'll get it working, as I'm
"this" close -- I might need to break down and read some documentation
(which is sort of a "fail" for a GUI app, although the norm for a music

(3) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12 -- I
tested by running patchage. Unfortunately, after installing flowcanvas, "yum
update" wants to update back to the CCRMA version:

gnulem-119-~/Download> sudo yum update

Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit

Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile

 * fedora: mirrors.usc.edu

 * rpmfusion-free: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu

 * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu

 * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu

 * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu

 * updates: mirrors.usc.edu

Setting up Update Process

Resolving Dependencies

--> Running transaction check

---> Package flowcanvas.x86_64 0:0.6.0-1.fc12.ccrma set to be updated

--> Finished Dependency Resolution

> Updating:

 flowcanvas                        x86_64
>  0.6.0-1.fc12.ccrma                        planetccrma
>  133 k

> Transaction Summary

Install       0 Package(s)

Upgrade       1 Package(s)

> Total download size: 133 k

Is this ok [y/N]: n

I installed the f12 version of flowcanvas, ran patchage verifying it's ok,
then reinstalled the ccrma version so as to not get an unnecessary 'updates
available' icon...

> guitarix-0.07.1 (failed):

I also tried to update guitarix to 0.07.1. However this version

requires zita-resampler, which doesn't exist in Fedora yet. But it

exists in PlanetCCRMA. Maybe we should build guitarix 0.07.1 on

PlanetCCRMA until we get zita-resampler into Fedora (which may take a

while since I am really busy these days. If anyone wants to give a

hand I would be very happy).

I'm intrigued by guitarix && would like to see it's interface to jconvolver
be more useful (there's always jcgui, which seems to be the jconvolver parts
of guitarix minus the "the knob goes to 11 so it's really loud" :-) part.).
IMHO both should be part of fedora since they're basically the same
"pattern" with the same dependencies.

The thing that would help w/ guitarix/jcgui's usage of jconvolver would be
better-working examples & hints for loading them up within the app... see
also http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.planetccrma.general/9587 .

How can I help?

FYI, I have not received reply regarding access to some of the jconvolver

Excerpt of discussion on jconvolver package from Stanford University
> PlanetCCRMA mailing list: "... However, other files, the more interesting
> ones like

'/usr/share/jconvolver/reverbs/spacenet/Minster1_000_WXYZ_48k.amb' are still
> missing. ... http://space-net.org.uk/?q=node/50 suggests where to find
> them: "96kHz versions are available at 5deg intervals for the complete
> measurement circle through negotiation with the authors."

> For context/details, see
> http://old.nabble.com/new-packages-in-Fedora-updates-testing-%282010-03-13%29-tp27892388p27899653.html

> Question:

(1) May I get access to these files for my own educational use, e.g.


> (2) Would it be possible for these files to be distributed alongside
> jconvolver, as a separate and related package, much like debian's



PS: Here's my overall installation "method" for these updates. (Btw, what
should I do to get rid of the --nogpgcheck option
when i don't want to include the updates-testing repo, and prefer to do it
"manually" as below, yet would also like a GPG check of package integrity:

gnulem-118-~/Download> sudo yum --nogpgcheck install
> hydrogen-
> ladspa-wasp-plugins- muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64.rpm
> flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64.rpm

Examining hydrogen- hydrogen-

Marking hydrogen- as an update to
> hydrogen-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64

Examining ladspa-wasp-plugins-
> ladspa-wasp-plugins-

Marking ladspa-wasp-plugins- to be installed

Examining muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64.rpm: 1:muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64

Marking muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64.rpm as an update to
> 1:muse-1.0.1-1.fc12.x86_64

Examining flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64.rpm: flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64

Marking flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64.rpm to be installed

Resolving Dependencies

--> Running transaction check

---> Package flowcanvas.x86_64 0:0.6.0-1.fc12 set to be updated

---> Package hydrogen.x86_64 0: set to be updated

---> Package ladspa-wasp-plugins.x86_64 0: set to be updated

---> Package muse.x86_64 1:1.0.1-2.fc12 set to be updated

--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package                           Arch                 Version
>          Repository                                                Size



 flowcanvas                        x86_64               0.6.0-1.fc12
>         /flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64                          289 k

 ladspa-wasp-plugins               x86_64     
>         /ladspa-wasp-plugins-                56 k


 hydrogen                          x86_64     
>         /hydrogen-                          8.8 M

 muse                              x86_64               1:1.0.1-2.fc12
>         /muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64                                9.0 M

Transaction Summary


Install       2 Package(s)

Upgrade       2 Package(s)

Total size: 18 M

Is this ok [y/N]: y

Downloading Packages:

Running rpm_check_debug

Running Transaction Test

Transaction Test Succeeded

Running Transaction

  Installing     : flowcanvas-0.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64
>                                                                     1/6

  Updating       : 1:muse-1.0.1-2.fc12.x86_64
>                                                                     2/6

  Installing     : ladspa-wasp-plugins-
>                                                                    3/6

  Updating       : hydrogen-
>                                                                     4/6

  Cleanup        : 1:muse-1.0.1-1.fc12.x86_64
>                                                                     5/6

  Cleanup        : hydrogen-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64
>                                                                     6/6


  flowcanvas.x86_64 0:0.6.0-1.fc12
>  ladspa-wasp-plugins.x86_64 0:


  hydrogen.x86_64 0:
>  muse.x86_64 1:1.0.1-2.fc12


-- Niels
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