[PlanetCCRMA] Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Thu Feb 16 14:55:02 2006
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:10 -0600, David Slimp wrote:
> Hmmm.. that looks like the system is trying to do something
> with both your ice and intel8x0 card. From what I've read
> there could easily be problems trying to get two cards to
> work together. So, I'd recommend disabling the intel8x0
> card (at least for now). Probably something you can do from
> the BIOS. If not, then someone else on the list would have
> to help you with that.
>
> ... let's see if the fresh install wipes clean any bad/old settings.
>
> On 2/16/06, Balbinder Dobe <baldobe2000@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > David, this is the error that I get when booting up in
> > to the ccrma kernel.
> >
> > [root@localhost ~]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound stop
> > Shutting down sound driver
> > [ OK ]
> > [root@localhost ~]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start
> > Starting sound driver snd-ice1724 FATAL: Error
> > inserting snd_ice1724 (/lib/modul
> >
> > es/2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma/updates/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1724.ko):
> > Unknown symb
> > ol in module, or unknown parameter (see
> > dmesg)
> >
> > [FAILED]
> > Starting sound driver snd-intel8x0 FATAL: Error
> > inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/mod
> >
> > ules/2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma/updates/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko):
> > Unknown symbol in
> > module, or unknown parameter (see
> > dmesg)
> >
> > [FAILED]
Arghh, this is something (I don't know what) that is
rewriting /etc/modprobe.conf and putting things there that confuse the
module loading process. I have had zero time to take a look at this.
Quick fix is to edit (carefully) /etc/modprobe.conf and look at the end
of the "options" lines, remove any extra spaces at the end.
Save, do a "/sbin/depmod -a" and all should be well.
-- Fernando
> > [root@localhost ~]#
> >
> > I am also booting up into the right kernel.
> >
> > [root@localhost ~]# uname -r
> > 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma
> >
> > Ok I am now going to wipe my disk of FC3 and FC4 and
> > do a freh install of each with its own boot loader and
> > a Master boot loader.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- David Slimp <rock808@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > At this point I doubt you need to do a fresh
> > > install.
> > > It sounds like your install is fresh enough, but
> > > let's keep that option in mind.
> > >
> > > One thing that just struck me... maybe you are NOT
> > > in the right kernel?
> > >
> > > Just because you installed the CCRMA kernel does not
> > > mean you will
> > > auto boot to it ! In fact, if you follow my
> > > directions, your plain (original)
> > > kernel will be the default. So make SURE you are
> > > choosing the ccrma
> > > kernel when grub pops up! After you boot, try this:
> > > $ uname -r
> > > 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma
> > >
> > > Let me know if that is not it. :)
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/15/06, Bal Dobe <baldobe2000@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > > > David, I followed your instructions to the letter.
> > > >
> > > > I get the error message on the output during boot
> > > up.
> > > >
> > > > When I login it gives me the message below
> > > regarding the sound server.
> > > >
> > > > I did not do a BRAND NEW install of FC4, it is an
> > > install that I have had
> > > > for a few months but I have no data on it as I
> > > want to use FC as a DAW.
> > > >
> > > > I ran the update that you suggested.
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at the matrix page for this card and
> > > it says that it is
> > > > possible to support.
> > > >
> > > > I must mention that the sound for FC4 works fine.
> > > It was FC3 that was
> > > > giving me errors and FC4 ccrma, both give the
> > > exact same error.
> > > >
> > > > Can this install be rescued ot do I have to start
> > > again with fresh installs?
> > > >
> > > > IMHO I do not think that the issue is regarding
> > > the sound card because, as I
> > > > said it works in FC4. I have managed to get sound
> > > out from it. Therefore I
> > > > think that is MUST be something in the setting for
> > > FC3 / FC4 ccrma that
> > > > prevent me from getting any sound output.
> > > >
> > > > I am a little xhausted now, so I think I will call
> > > it a day. If I can not
> > > > solve this tomorrow I will a fresh install but I
> > > could well end up with the
> > > > exact same issues.
> > > >
> > > > Good night for now.
> > > >
> > > > Bal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Slimp [mailto:rock808@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:04 PM
> > > > To: Bal Dobe
> > > > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu
> > > > Subject: Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm...
> > > > I'm sure you followed the exact commands I did...
> > > >
> > > > Where are you getting that error message? -- I
> > > mean,
> > > > is it from an app you are running that plays
> > > sound? Or
> > > > is it in the output during boot up? etc?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you end up doing a BRAND NEW fresh FC4
> > > install,
> > > > or have you been running this FC4 for a while? If
> > > you've
> > > > been running it for a while have you updated (with
> > > apt or yum)
> > > > any of the software? If so... did you ever add
> > > any other
> > > > repositories to your apt or yum config files?
> > > >
> > > > Have you looked at the ALSA Matrix page for tht
> > > sound card?
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/15/06, Bal Dobe <baldobe2000@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > > > > David,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just gone through this for FC4 and I now
> > > get the same error that
> > > > > I had in FC3. That is I get the message,
> > > > >
> > > > > Soundserver informational message
> > > > >
> > > > > Error while initialising the sound driver
> > > > >
> > > > > Device /dev/dsp can't be opened (no such file or
> > > directory)
> > > > >
> > > > > The sound server will continue, using null
> > > output device.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Heeelp. This is exactly the same error that I
> > > get in FC3. I did get
> > > > > error messages on boot up regarding the sound.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got as far as rebooting into the new FC4 ccrma
> > > kernel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Over to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Slimp [mailto:rock808@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:27 PM
> > > > > To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu; Bal Dobe
> > > > > Subject: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !
> > > > >
> > > > > My short little How-To which took me from fresh
> > > install to perfect DAW
> > > > > in 2 hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be expanding on this soon, but Bal wants
> > > help "now" so I thought
> > > > > I'd get this out ASAP :)
> > > > >
> > > > > First, let me say I've spent the previous 2-3
> > > weeks trying to get my
> > > > > system
> > > > > up and running with Linux audio/DAW stuff. It's
> > > been very frustrating,
> > > > > and
> > > > > I'm not a linux newbie. But lots of reading to
> > > trying one thing then
> > > > > another
> > > > > to massage my system in to a DAW. It was all
> > > BS. My two BIGGEST
> > > > > factors were (1) Trying to get the internal
> > > sound card to work, and
> > > > > after
> > > > > a few days, then trying a $30 SB Live card which
> > > still had problems
> > > > > (2) Trying to install CCRMA on a system I'd been
> > > running for 6 months
> > > > > already, not intending it to be a DAW at that
> > > time (using various other
> > > > > repositories, etc).
> > > > >
> > > > > Because of that I wasted 2-3 weeks, many body
> > > cells died due to
> > > > > high-stress,
> > > > > and I took several people's time on several
> > > mailing lists away from
> > > > > probably
> > > > > more important things.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the 2 hour, stress-free solution I ended
> > > up with:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Don't try to work with any cheap/internal
> > > cards. If you're SERIOUS
> > > > > about
> > > > > audio on linux spend the $100-$200 on a WELL
> > > supported, fully featured
> > > > > card.
> > > > > I decided on the Delta 1010LT since it seems a
> > > majority of people on
> > > > > these
> > > > > lists seem to use that card, and everyone says
> > > it's a dream to get
> > > > > working.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Install a FRESH version of Fedora Core 4.
> > > Don't be whiney that
> > > > > you've
> > > > > worked hard on your system and like your
> > > configuration.
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> --
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>
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