[CM] 2nd International Linux Audio Conference

Marco Trevisani marco@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:26:25 -0400

I want to take Bill side and clarify something, which should be clear
but it is usually not, maybe Fernando could include that in his
paper... (i know fernando knows well this distinction i'm talking about a
general audience).

Most of the computation in CLM is made in real time, often faster than
real time, a part for very elaborated instruments, and those cases are
the same for any other similar application -csound, nyquist, editors
etc. (i think even PD would have hard time to process in real time
some complex clm intruments).

OK, but one thing is processing in real time, another story is
listening a process while is processed (of course those process need
to be either in real time or faster than real time). These two features
are different and often mixed, uncorrectly, into the same one: real

Yes indeed listening the result of a process while is computing
certainly is not the main feature in CLM (question is that really
needed in CLM?). Saying that CLM lack of real time capability, i think i
pretty much incorrect.

my two puertorican cents (which are the same as US $ btw)


 28/04/2004 alle 03:25:59, -0700, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano [AKA nando] ha scritto/escribió/wrote:
> > I claim that anyone using Snd is using CLM in realtime,
> > all the time. The Common Lisp version could be used
> > in realtime with great difficulty, but that (the difficulty)
> > is not CLM's fault (I've seen this non-realtime bogosity
> > so many times I'm becoming cranky about it).
> Sorry about this... I'll make it clear that it can be used in real time
> as well. 
> When I have used clm for pieces, I have never used it in its realtime
> mode because I immediately start creating stuff that cannot be rendered
> in that mode  because the computer is not fast enough (and I think
> computers will never will be "fast enough" for me, every time a faster
> computer comes along I manage to start doing more complicated things -
> the average wait for rendering is probably a constant for me :-)
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