[PlanetCCRMA] Pd Extended problem (new package)

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Tue Aug 11 14:50:52 PDT 2015

On 08/11/2015 11:56 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> On 08/11/2015 02:55 AM, ycollette.nospam at free.fr wrote:
>> I tested severals examples (one from gem too) and everything seems
>> fine for me.
>> As far as I can see in the forums, the gem.conf missing file doesn't
>> seems to be a real big problem.
> Thanks to all for testing! Sounds good to me so far...
> I don't see a default gem.conf file in the Gem source tree so I have no
> idea what might be needed there... Some messages in the web suggest that
> the missing default configuration file has no effect on running gem.

Ah, just remembered this.

I have not dealt yet with flext and friends which used to be separate 
rpm packages. I noticed that svn pulls the source for them into the 
checkout directory from Grill's repository, but nothing gets built (as 
far as I could tell in a simple look). So I will at some point try to 
get that build and be part of the pd-extended package (as opposed to 
separate packages).

-- Fernando

>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Kaza Kore" <dj_kaza at hotmail.com>
>> À: "ycollette nospam" <ycollette.nospam at free.fr>, "Fernando
>> Lopez-Lezcano" <nando at ccrma.stanford.edu>
>> Cc: "planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU" <planetccrma at ccrma.stanford.edu>
>> Envoyé: Mardi 11 Août 2015 11:24:45
>> Objet: RE: [PlanetCCRMA] Pd Extended problem (new package)
>> GEM (Graphics Extension for Multimedia) is the extension to pd for
>> doing work with live graphics and needed if you want to do the likes
>> of live graphics or video manipulation from what I remember...
>> https://puredata.info/downloads/gem
>> The little Test button should test GEM as well as audio with
>> pd-extended (or at least did on a Ubuntu install) I think with a
>> bouncing ball that follows the mouse...
>> Dale.
>>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:00:15 +0200
>>> From: ycollette.nospam at free.fr
>>> To: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>>> CC: planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Pd Extended problem (new package)
>>> Hello,
>>> I performed some first tests and it works a lot more better than the
>>> old version.
>>> Magic glass is back. I was able to put an object from an extra
>>> package (freeverb~ - which was not working on the old version).
>>> Just a little thng: I am wondering if a conf file for gem is missing.
>>> At startup, in the bash console, I noticed these messages:
>>> open: /etc/pd/gem.conf: No such file or directory
>>> open: /home/admin/.config/pure-data/gem.conf: No such file or directory
>>> open: ./gem.conf: No such file or directory
>>> load plugins 'film' in '/usr/lib64/pd-extended/extra/Gem/'
>>> pattern : /usr/lib64/pd-extended/extra/Gem/gem_film*.so
>>> The /etc/pd/gem.conf seems to be missing. I not know what is this
>>> file for ...
>>> But I was not able to locate this file in the gem source directory.
>>> Maybe this is normal. I will dig a little bit more.
>>> Best regards,
>>> YC
>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>> De: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" <nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>>> À: "Yann Collette" <ycollette.nospam at free.fr>, "Fernando
>>> Lopez-Lezcano" <nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>>> Cc: planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>>> Envoyé: Mardi 11 Août 2015 02:03:23
>>> Objet: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Pd Extended problem (new package)
>>> On 08/10/2015 02:29 PM, Yann Collette wrote:
>>>> Nice, thanks a lot.
>>>> The package is in the update repo or update-testing ?
>>> It is in the Planet CCRMA repository for Fedora 22...
>>> -- Fernando
>>>> Le 10/08/2015 23:05, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano a écrit :
>>>>> On 08/07/2015 11:13 PM, Yann Collette wrote:
>>>>>> I looked in the debian/patches directory for the git repo of
>>>>>> pd-extended.
>>>>>> The file 05_user-install-paths.diff seems to deal with the 'extra'
>>>>>> path
>>>>>> a lot more than just replacing /usr/local/lib into /usr/lib64.
>>>>>> I don't know yet what it does but I think it worth a try.
>>>>> I finally figured out the paths (I think) and my latest package seems
>>>>> to start fine in a test fc22 install. A few example patches load
>>>>> without problems or error messages. Of course the testing I do is
>>>>> _very_ limited. I just pushed it out for fc22...
>>>>> Let me know how it goes, and thanks for the feedback and patience!
>>>>> If all goes well I will probably propagate to fc21 as well.
>>>>> -- Fernando
>>>>>> Le 08/08/2015 00:44, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano a écrit :
>>>>>>> On 08/07/2015 01:01 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2015 12:58 PM, Yann Collette wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for all this work. And for the patches ... and
>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>> Thank you for bringing up the problems in the first place!
>>>>>>>> I think I figured out things, I need both the pd core from git
>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>> extended stuff from svn which ALSO includes a pd directory with pd
>>>>>>>> source (older? obsolete? confusing?). I'm trying to build a
>>>>>>>> composite
>>>>>>>> package by replacing the pd in the svn tree (0.43) with the pd
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> git core (0.44). Hopefully that will work...
>>>>>>> It does in the sense it builds and tries to start.
>>>>>>> I have to find where the search paths are defined as that seems
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> wrong - the audio and midi test panel can't find basic objects that
>>>>>>> should be there (all in red - first time this happens :-)
>>>>>>> -- Fernando
>>>>>>>>> Le 07/08/2015 21:16, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2015 12:11 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2015 07:37 AM, ycollette.nospam at free.fr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the source package of pure data and I searched for
>>>>>>>>>>>> g_magicglass.* file in the directory pure-data-svn/pd/src/ (for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> pd-extended package) and in pure-data-pd-extended/src/ (for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> pd-extended source from git repo).
>>>>>>>>>>>> The files g_magicglass.* (specific to pd-extended and not
>>>>>>>>>>>> present in
>>>>>>>>>>>> vanilla pd) are not in the source archive of the pd-extended
>>>>>>>>>>>> fedora
>>>>>>>>>>>> package.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, to me, in the fedora package, we have pd-vanilla + extra
>>>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>>>> from pd-extended.
>>>>>>>>>>> What it looks to me to... sigh :-(
>>>>>>>>>>> Time to again redo the package - looks like main core is in
>>>>>>>>>>> git and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> extras in svn which is what I was downloading (and then I
>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>> merge
>>>>>>>>>>> both somehow).
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I hit this before I think - the urls in the download pages
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> point to valid things sometimes (for example the svn repository)
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>> can't easily find which parts I really need to build a full
>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>> package. Argh! Anyone knows for sure?
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