[PlanetCCRMA] landing on the Fedora 18 planet

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Wed Jan 23 11:58:00 PST 2013

On 01/23/2013 08:39 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
> I tried to install FC 18 from a DvD (the ISO image option) since
> my web connection is tricky.

Yes, the installer was puzzling to say the least. I managed to navigate 
it but I was like "what?" I installed from the gnome dvd and after that 
I added the MATE, XFce, Cinnamon and other more palatable desktops 
through yum groupinstall. I guess that would not work for a not very 
fast internet connection.

I would give some time to the new installer. It is new and different and 
we all hate different at first (I think). It does not make any sense to 
me now, but what do I know?

I don't have much hope, though. I gave time to gnome3, a lot of time, 
and it still feels LESS productive to use than other "older and obsolete 
paradigm" desktops. It does not seem to be getting any better or I'm too 
old to learn new tricks. Progress. I imagine many users (including, I 
hope, the developers) must be thrilled at their new found 
"productivity", maybe because that is not important to them. It would 
seem that what is important to them is, exclusively, the world of tablet 
computing where users just "consume" stuff and point at things. I use 
laptops and desktops and the paradigm does not fit (and if I had a 
tablet it would not be running Fedora).

-- Fernando

> I don't recommend this!  I wanted
> xfce+emacs+tcsh+gcc.  I got gcc, and wasted an afternoon.
> If Gnome locks the screen, you need to "sweep" upwards to
> get going again.  Luckily Fernando had warned me about this.
> I'd like to ask Fedora how an ISO image user is supposed to
> get xfce (not Gnome!) and the development tools in the same
> installation.  If you choose xfce, the installer unchooses the
> development stuff, and vice-versa.

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