[PlanetCCRMA] Planet on Fedora 8 -- basic questions
Fritz Whittington
f.whittington at att.net
Mon Dec 3 21:43:01 PST 2007
On or about 2007-12-03 19:11, Chuck Cooper pulled out a trusty #2 pencil
and scribbled:
> Thanks, Nicholas, for all your great answers. I'm a little concerned
> if Fedora 8 is LESS stable than Fedora 7 with Planet CCRMA, but as
> long as the initial setup goes OK I'll be happy. I suppose 8 is where
> future improvements and goodness will be...
>
> Now I realize I'll have to download and burn my own DVDs anyhow for
> Planet even if I get Fedora 8 on a DVD, and that's fine. My Internet
> connections are fast enuff. I'm just lazy.
>
> I wonder if others have advice about soundcards (including outboard
> USB)? I'm glad to hear that the Delta 44 will still be good. I got
> mine in 2000 and I'm surprised it's still sold. Is something
> Firewire-based a good choice if I want to also run on a laptop
> (probably Wintel, maybe a Mac)? Or would that compromise the latency?
>
> I'm getting Partition Magic and will then let the Fedora install do
> GRUB as you said. Is there any Planet preference or requirement about
> which type of Linux file system to use?
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Chuck Cooper
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Nicholas Manojlovic" <nicholasmanojlovic at gmail.com>
> Hi Chuck, your questions seem reasonable. I'll have a stab.
>
> 1. Fedora 8 is fine for someone new. In my experience using it
> with the CCRMA packages it hasn't been as stable as Fedora 7, but
> I have been making some noise with it and it is going okay. CCRMA
> is indeed available for Fedora 8.
>
> 2. The DVD you have bought will be fine for installing Fedora,
> however you will still need access to the Internet - updates come
> thick and fast and CCRMA is only available to download at this
> point. IMO the best approach is to download and burn your own copy
> - but each to their own.
>
> 3. Short answer, Yes. What will happen to install Fedora with
> CCRMA is this:
> Install Fedora 8 -> install the Planet ccrma repository ->
> download/install the ccrma packages ->! ; reboo t into a low
> latency kernel. You can of course reboot into any other kernel
> installed on your machine, however for best use you'll need the
> low latency kernel (which comes from ccrma).
>
> 4. I also have a Delta 44 - it sounds quite good and it works
> flawlessly. I have set my machine to play mp3s, movies etc with my
> in built Intel card, and use my Delta for recording work. Easy to
> achieve. My most productive results are all under 5ms latency,
> although this can be pushed. IMO, anything under 5ms feels 'real'.
>
> 5. I can't remember how to partition when you already have XP
> installed (you may be able to resize an NTFS partition with the
> Fedora installer?), however for practical reasons - it is best to
> have XP installed first so Fedora can set up GRUB for you.
>
> Not sure how helpful this has been, happy to elaborate on anything
> I haven't made clear.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 11:01 AM, Chuck Cooper < plangent2 at comcast.net
> <mailto:plangent2 at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> I got freshly turned on to Planet CCRMA talking with Julius
> Smith at a conference, and now I'm starting to set it up on
> two different machines, one of them brand-new with only XP
> installed. My questions are pretty basic but perhaps timely
> since I gather Fedora 8 is pretty new. I haven't used Linux
> in several years and was never fluent...
>
> 1) Is Fedora 8 the best/easiest way to go for a newbie? Both
> machines currently have Windows XP and I'll re-partition the
> drive(s). The Planet web pages mention older versions of
> Fedora but then say Fedora 8.
>
> 2) I would prefer to just buy Fedora 8 in a nice package with
> a DVD instead of downloading, making an ISO image,
> updating, etc., but I gather you can't... But I ordered a
> "re-spin" DVD (I think) of Fedora 8 from DiscountLinuxDVD.com
> for a tiny price. Is this a good approach? Was this
> re-spin really only released a coupla weeks ago?
>
> 3) Is it OK to skip loading the low-latency kernel for my
> initial activities, then try it later? Even a 15 ms latency
> would be fine for now and I won't have anything else
> (intentionally) running on the machine. I'm a little afraid
> of screwing things up.
>
> 4) What's a good sound card to buy these days? I still have
> an M-Audio Delta 4x4 recommended by CCRMA many years ago, and
> it worked fine with Linux then in the earliest days of Alsa.
> Is this still a good thing to buy for a 2nd machine? I don't
> mind spending a few hundred bucks, but don't need lots of IO
> channels or super-low noise. I do need low latency. Also, is
> an external USB audio interface like the M-Audio Mobile-Pre
> reasonably low-latency with Planet/Alsa? I already have two
> of those.
>
> 5) Finally, and sorry for all these basic questions: I gather
> Linux mavens would use GRUB to do the multiple-boot setup (I
> want to have both XP and Fedora), but I was thinking that for
> an old-guy Linux newbie like me that Partition Magic (now from
> Symantec) might be easier/safer. Advice? Or would I use
> Partition Magic first in XP (to set up a partition for
> Linux) and then GRUB jumps in as part of the Fedora install?
>
> Thanks for your help. I'm excited about landing on Planet CCRMA.
>
> Chuck Cooper
>
>
You can also use many of the "live" CDs (Knoppix, or Fedora even) to
boot and run qtparted (an OSS copy of Partition Magic). It's free for
the download, and I suspect it's on the Fedora "rescue CD" as well.
--
Fritz Whittington -- © 2007 Fritz Whittington. All rights Reserved.
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