[PlanetCCRMA] Planet on Fedora 8 -- basic questions

[Fritz Whittington]

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On or about 2007-12-03 19:11, Chuck Cooper pulled out a trusty #2 pencil =

and scribbled:
> Thanks, Nicholas, for all your great answers.  I'm a little concerned=20
> if Fedora 8 is LESS stable than  Fedora 7 with Planet CCRMA, but as=20
> long as the initial setup goes OK I'll be happy.  I suppose 8 is where =

> future improvements and goodness will be...
> =20
> Now I realize I'll have to download and burn my own DVDs anyhow for=20
> Planet even if I get Fedora 8 on a DVD, and that's fine.  My Internet=20
> connections are fast enuff.  I'm just lazy.
> =20
> I wonder if others have advice about soundcards (including outboard=20
> USB)?  I'm glad to hear that the Delta 44 will still be good.  I got=20
> mine in 2000 and I'm surprised it's still sold.  Is something=20
> Firewire-based a good choice if I want to also run on a laptop=20
> (probably Wintel, maybe a Mac)?  Or would that compromise the latency?
> =20
> I'm getting Partition Magic and will then let the Fedora install do=20
> GRUB as you said.  Is there any Planet preference or requirement about =

> which type of Linux file system to use?
> =20
> Thanks for all your help.
> =20
> Chuck Cooper
> =20
>
>     -------------- Original message --------------
>     From: "Nicholas Manojlovic" <nicholasmanojlovic@gmail.com>
>     Hi Chuck, your questions seem reasonable. I'll have a stab.
>
>     1. Fedora 8 is fine for someone new. In my experience using it
>     with the CCRMA packages it hasn't been as stable as Fedora 7, but
>     I have been making some noise with it and it is going okay. CCRMA
>     is indeed available for Fedora 8.
>
>     2. The DVD you have bought will be fine for installing Fedora,
>     however you will still need access to the Internet - updates come
>     thick and fast and CCRMA is only available to download at this
>     point. IMO the best approach is to download and burn your own copy
>     - but each to their own.
>
>     3. Short answer, Yes. What will happen to install Fedora with
>     CCRMA is this:
>     Install Fedora 8 -> install the Planet ccrma repository ->
>     download/install the ccrma packages ->! ; reboo t into a low
>     latency kernel.  You can of course reboot into any other kernel
>     installed on your machine, however for best use you'll need the
>     low latency kernel (which comes from ccrma).
>
>     4. I also have a Delta 44 - it sounds quite good and it works
>     flawlessly. I have set my machine to play mp3s, movies etc with my
>     in built Intel card, and use my Delta for recording work. Easy to
>     achieve. My most productive results are all under 5ms latency,
>     although this can be pushed. IMO, anything under 5ms feels 'real'.
>
>     5. I can't remember how to partition when you already have XP
>     installed (you may be able to resize an NTFS partition with the
>     Fedora installer?), however for practical reasons - it is best to
>     have XP installed first so Fedora can set up GRUB for you.
>
>     Not sure how helpful this has been, happy to elaborate on anything
>     I haven't made clear.
>
>     Cheers
>
>
>
>     On Dec 4, 2007 11:01 AM, Chuck Cooper < plangent2@comcast.net
>     <mailto:plangent2@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>         I got freshly turned on to Planet CCRMA talking with Julius
>         Smith at a conference, and  now I'm starting to set it up on
>         two different machines, one of them brand-new with only XP
>         installed.  My questions are pretty basic but perhaps timely
>         since I gather Fedora 8 is pretty new.  I haven't used Linux
>         in several years and was never fluent...
>         =20
>         1) Is Fedora 8 the best/easiest way to go for a newbie?  Both
>         machines currently have Windows XP and I'll re-partition the
>         drive(s).  The Planet web pages mention older versions of
>         Fedora but then say Fedora 8.
>         =20
>         2)  I would prefer to just buy Fedora 8 in a nice package with
>         a DVD instead of downloading, making an ISO image,
>         updating, etc., but I gather you can't... But I ordered a
>         "re-spin" DVD (I think) of Fedora 8 from DiscountLinuxDVD.com
>         for a tiny price.   Is this a good approach?  Was this
>         re-spin really only released a coupla weeks ago?
>         =20
>         3)  Is it OK to skip loading the low-latency kernel for my
>         initial activities, then try it later?  Even a 15 ms latency
>         would be fine for now and I won't have anything else
>         (intentionally) running on the machine.  I'm a little afraid
>         of screwing things up.
>         =20
>         4)  What's a good sound card to buy these days?  I still have
>         an M-Audio Delta 4x4 recommended by CCRMA many years ago, and
>         it worked fine with Linux then in the earliest days of Alsa.=20
>         Is this still a good thing to buy for a 2nd machine?  I don't
>         mind spending a few hundred bucks, but don't need lots of IO
>         channels or super-low noise. I do need low latency.  Also, is
>         an external USB audio interface like the M-Audio Mobile-Pre
>         reasonably low-latency with Planet/Alsa?  I already have two
>         of those.
>         =20
>         5) Finally, and sorry for all these basic questions:  I gather
>         Linux mavens would use GRUB to do the multiple-boot setup (I
>         want to have both XP and Fedora), but I was thinking that for
>         an old-guy Linux newbie like me that Partition Magic (now from
>         Symantec) might be easier/safer. Advice?  Or would I use
>         Partition Magic first in XP (to set up a partition for
>         Linux) and then GRUB jumps in as part of the Fedora install?
>         =20
>         Thanks for your help. I'm excited about landing on Planet CCRMA=
=2E
>         =20
>         Chuck Cooper
>
>
You can also use many of the "live" CDs (Knoppix, or Fedora even) to=20
boot and run qtparted (an OSS copy of Partition Magic).  It's free for=20
the download, and I suspect it's on the Fedora "rescue CD" as well.

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Fritz Whittington -- =C2=A9 2007 Fritz Whittington.  All rights Reserved.=




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