[PlanetCCRMA] Re: No Midi
David Slimp
rock808@gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 22:07:01 2006
Thanks Fernando !
I was able to do quite a bit more testing on my own and thought
I'd post my findings here.
Actually, I've not solved all my problems yet, but I think I've done
enough that we can rule out some things.
First, I removed my usb webcam, and Brooktree capture cards to
take them out of the loop (less audio devices the better - while testing)
Next, I plugged in my usb M-Audio Uno 1x1 device to my Yamaha
keyboard so I would have another midi device available (besides
the built in soundcard?)
I then uncommented out the lines in /etc/modules.conf which were
put there by the alsaconf tool, and I had commented out earlier, so
my /etc/modules.conf now looks like this:
=============
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias char-major-81 bttv
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 &&
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ;
}; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
========================
I could not get the usb 1x1 device to work until I found and installed
the ezusbmidi RPM for RH9 (even though I am using FC3):
rpm -Uvh
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/redhat/linux/planetccrma/9/en/os/noarch/ezusbmidi-2002_11_17-1.noarch.rpm
... Perhaps this should be in the PlanetCCRMA documents somewhere?
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/usbmidi.html
Talks about it some, but it was not obvious to be that the RH9 package
would work for me on FC3, and I did not need the hotplug RPM at all.
-- For any PlanetCCRMA doc people out there.. at least a mention that
the RH9 packages is for FC3 as well. Would have saved me 2 hours :)
And maybe a link to that page from the quick install pages for those
with these devices.
I also rebooted to the .ll kernel rather than the .rdt kernel, just to
be as safe as possible.
After killing the artsd process I was in business. -- kinda
timidity works with the -Os option.
seq24 works, but I have to set output bus to "Midisport 1x1", even
though I have an option for "[0] 62:0 (Midi Through Port-0)" I don't
hear any output on this. If THAT is indeed the internal sound card
then this is one thing I DO want to see working!!
hydrogen was not working at first, but I found the problem to be was that
the alsa device was automatically set to "hw:0" and I needed to change
it to just "hw" as was reported "somewhere", but I can't seem to find out
where I saw it as I write this email.
muse just bombs and says it can't find the Jack audio server.
How should this be configured for auto setup/install?
>From the command line, I run:
jackstart -d alsa &
and try muse again, which gives the error "failed to initialize the Alsa
midi subsystem" and command line messages:
$ muse
mjsucaps: capsetp: Operation not permitted
/usr/bin/konqueror
ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw
Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory
rosegarden also hangs for a REALLY long time after this:
ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default
*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 ***
Profiler : id = querying plugins - elapsed = 990ms CPU, 1.571667000R real
And then the popup window "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be
started, so sound and recording will be unavailable for this session".
It seems to struggle
getting started and soon crashes.
I guess my biggest interest are to see rosegarden working,
and to be able to use the internal soundcard as a midi device.
Now that we see alsa IS working (somewhat) then I think we can
move more in that direction.
Thanks!
David
On 1/21/06, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:04 -0600, David Slimp wrote:
> > I've been enjoying CCRMA for a couple years now, but recently
> > wiped my system of Fedora 1 and installed Fedora 3.
> >
> > Now, I'm having problems getting MIDI to work, although PCM seems
> > to be working fine.
> >
> > I've looked over some of the past posts and think I've ruled out the
> > common problems, although I'm obviously missing something.
> >
> > When I start 'rosegarden' I get:
> > Error while initializing the sound driver:
> > device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)
> >
> > in a GUI window, and on the command line:
> > JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem
> > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default
> > *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080cce00 ***
> > Launched ok, pid = 5872
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > When I run 'muse' I get:
> >
> > ALSA lib seq.c:928:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ hw
> > Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory
>
> Probably the sequencer module is not being autolodaded, that happens in
> fc3. One solution is to activate the alsasound startup script:
>
> /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on
>
> And reboot or start it manually:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start
>
> That should load the sequencer module. You can check by doing:
> /sbin/lsmod|grep ^snd
> that should list all alsa modules (they all start with snd-), you should
> see some with "seq" in them.
>
> You can also look at the devices with:
> cat /proc/asound/cards
> cat /proc/asound/devices
>
> > kmid seems to start up fine (no errors)... and SEEMS to run, but
> > I don't hear any sound. I'll admit I don't use kmid, and so not sure
> > it's behaving properly besides that.
> >
> > I do not have any external MIDI devices hooked up right now....
> > I'm trying to just get it to my sound card ( snd-intel8x0 ) which is
> > built in to the motherboard.
> >
> > I do have a Brooktree audio/video capture card and usb audio
> > device attached too, so have these entries in my /etc/modules.conf:
> > =========================
> > # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
> > # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.9rc1 ---
> > #alias char-major-116 snd
> > #alias char-major-14 soundcore
> > #alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> > #alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> > #alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> > #alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> > #alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> > options snd-intel8x0 index=0
> > install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && \
> > /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; \
> > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> > alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
> > # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
> >
> >
> > alias snd-card-1 pwc
> > options snd-card-1 index=1
> > install pwc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install pwc && /usr/sbin/alsactl
> > restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > remove pwc { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
> > /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove pwc
>
> What is pwc? It is not an alsa kernel module (they all start with
> snd-)...
>
> > alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio
> > options snd-usb-audio index=2
> > =============================
> >
> > The commented out lines had not been commented, but after looking
> > at my old conf file (Fedora 1) I didn't see those particular lines, so I've
> > been doing some testing.
>
> You don't need the aliases, they are included in fc3/2.6.x
> automatically.
>
> > I also noticed I don't have a /dev/sequencer, although not
> > sure that's necessary.
>
> That would only be necessary for oss emulated midi programs.
>
> > I'm not sure how to tell if the alsa drivers are loaded. Nothing with
> > "alsa" seems to be listed in the output of ps afx or lsmod.
> >
> > Also, after reading a couple more posts, I thought this might be helpful:
> >
> > /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
> > /etc/init.d/alsasound start
> > tail -30 /var/log/messages:
> > =====
> > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sound driver snd-usb-audio succeeded
> > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Starting sequencer succeeded
> > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsactl: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1272:
> > No soundcards found...
> > Jan 20 21:50:50 alleria alsasound: Restoring sound driver settings failed
> > =====
>
> That should have started the sequencer modules...
> The "no soundcards found" thing only refers to the stored mixer state
> of /etc/asound.state, if you have configured your mixer you can store it
> explicitly with "/usr/sbin/alsactl store".
>
> > $ hdspmixer
> > HDSPMixer 1.6 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel <thomas@undata.org>
> > This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
> > HDSPMixer is free software, see the file COPYING for details
> >
> > Looking for HDSP cards :
> > Card 0 : Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A at 0xec800000, irq 17
> > Card 2 : USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full speed
> > No Hammerfall DSP card found.
>
> That would only work if you had an RME card. Try "gamix" for a generic
> mixer with a gui.
>
> -- Fernando
>
>
>
--
David Slimp
rock808@gmail.com
http://www.MySpace.com/rock808
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On open platforms, you'll run into 'you have to learn more to do that.' "
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