[PlanetCCRMA] Ima Newbie; can't get through install of FC4, nomatter what I do! Help!

[Nigel Henry]

On Wednesday 22 February 2006 22:57, Joe Fay wrote:
> No, I haven't got through the boot.  Once anaconda starts, the system
> freezes up, and I have to try to boot and try different options.  I heard
> that this is a common problem, and there used to be a patch available, but
> when I go to the link that they recommend, there is naught but a notice
> saying that GCC was to blame, and that they've fixed that bug and released
> it.  The notice doesn't say where to get the new version, or how to get
> past install to put it in.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe

Hi Joe. Sorry to hear that. I usually do custom installs, so selected the 
stuff I wanted to install. 1'st go. Disc 1 ran to completion, then asked for 
disk 2. Disk 2 ran for a while, then crashed with a black screen,and the 
harddrive winding down. Next reduced the packages to just X, and Gnome (I 
normally use KDE). Same problem with the crash. Bear in mind that I have been 
trying other options, removing packages that I can always install later, and 
these have failed as well. Now I can't stand X, but I just went for an X 
window install, and this was the first one that ran to completion, but again 
on reboot, just a white screen. These were installs as workstation. Then I 
ran the install as desktop, and didn't mess with the packages. This too ran 
to completion, but again with the whitescreen on reboot. Running noprobe at 
bootup only seems to bring up a screen for config of the network card. I have 
seen quite a few options to add to the kernel in Grub. nousb, lowres, 
nofirewire. EclipseAgent's suggestion for changing the video driver worked 
for me, but how to change it before installing I don't know. All in all. FC1, 
and FC2 have given me no problems. FC3 continues to crash KDE's kicker 
(panel) on logout, and no feedback from KDE. I normally use now FC2 on both 
machines. FC3 isn't too bad, apart from the KDE kicker problem, but FC4 has 
really gone overboard. I've spent 4/5/ perhaps 6 hours trawling through forum 
posts to fix this problem. Man. You shouldn't have to do this. You have to 
make your choice. I'm using FC2 for day to day use and music apps. I have 
FC3, and most recently FC4, but am a bit concerned about them. Sorry not to 
be  more positive. Nigel.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nigel Henry" <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
> To: "Joe Fay" <wb0fhu@aol.com>
> Cc: <planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu>; "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano"
> <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Ima Newbie; can't get through install of FC4,
> nomatter what I do! Help!
>
> > On Wednesday 22 February 2006 21:48, Joe Fay wrote:
> >> Yes, it is a cyberblade (generic) Cyberblade /i11, Nigel, sounds like
> >> you know lots of things I don't, eh?  Fernando suggested unplugging the
> >> monitor
> >> at just the time of boot, I suppose, after selecting the boot you want.
> >> Text?
> >
> > Hi Joe. I presume that you have got through the install. it took me 15+
> > goes
> > at that, with various crashes along the way. Then just the white screen
> > of death on reboot, where I expected to get the post config stuff. The
> > problem
> > at this stage is that FC4 is not able to enable the driver for Trident
> > video
> > cards. Don't ask me why, as FC1,2, and 3 had no problems.
> >
> > Right. if this is your problem, here is the fix. I hope. Go to the
> > following
> > link.
> > http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59472&page=4&pp=15
> > 7 posts down, a post by EclipseAgent.
> > Boot up FC4. Get Grubs menu, type e on the kernel to boot, type e again
> > on the
> > kernel, not the initrd.img. back space and get rid of rhgb quiet, and
> > replace
> > with init 3 . Next "Enter", then type b. This should now boot up in text
> > mode. Then follow EclipseAgent's instructions for replacing the trident
> > driver with the vesa one. Enough for now. If you have have tried numerous
> > reboots, you have probably messed up the post install config stuff, so
> > will
> > have to create a user. It may be worthwhile creating a user before using
> > vi
> > to change the video card driver. Do the following .
> > adduser <username>
> > passwd <username>
> > enter password
> > enter password
> > If this works you should end up on rebooting with GDM asking for your
> > user name and password. All the best. Nigel.
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Joe
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nigel Henry" <cave.dnb@tiscali.fr>
> >> To: <planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu>
> >> Cc: "Joe Fay" <wb0fhu@aol.com>; "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano"
> >> <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Ima Newbie; can't get through install of FC4,
> >> nomatter what I do! Help!
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday 22 February 2006 20:46, Joe Fay wrote:
> >> >> Hi Fernando (Espero que usted tiene un buen dia!)
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Fernando Lopez-Lezcano" <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> >> >> To: <Wb0fhu@aol.com>
> >> >> Cc: <planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:22 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] Ima Newbie; can't get through install of
> >> >> FC4,
> >> >> nomatter what I do! Help!
> >> >>
> >> >> > It would seem that there is a problem with your video hardware.
> >> >> > Did you try to install in text mode?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, I tried it with every argument I saw to run with it...still to
> >> >> no avail!
> >> >>
> >> >> > Once you boot into the first prompt (before it starts loading the
> >> >> > kernel
> >> >> > and all that) type:
> >> >> >  linux text
> >> >> > That will start the text based installer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > documented here:
> >> >> > http://www.fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ch-be
> >> >> >gin nin ginstallation.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just for reference some more options are documented here:
> >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AnacondaIsoLinux0ptions
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What to try depends on exactly what messages (if any) get printed
> >> >> > before
> >> >> > things fail. I'm not sure of what is failing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Frankly, Fernando, I'm not sure, either.  I tried to use the Knoppix
> >> >> Live CD that comes with the distro from the book I mentioned, but
> >> >> that worked just fine, and found everything it needed to find.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Assuming there's something wrong with support for your video card I
> >> >> > would try:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > text* -- Enable text mode for install (default on HTTP and FTP
> >> >> >         installs). Mutually exclusive with graphical
> >> >> > skipddc* -- Skips DDC probe of the monitor
> >> >> > lowres* -- Force GUI installer to run at 640x480
> >> >>
> >> >> Tried those, too.  No luck! Same white screen of death.
> >> >>
> >> >> > -- Fernando
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Fernando.  You have any other ideas to try?
> >> >> Joe Fay, WO0O
> >> >
> >> > Hi Joe. I've just had a load of problems with the white screen of
> >> > death after
> >> > install. Is your video card a Trident Cyberbladei1 or XP for instance?
> >> > Nigel.
> >> >
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