[PlanetCCRMA] Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !

Bal Dobe baldobe2000@yahoo.de
Fri Feb 17 17:37:01 2006


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So the Ram appears to be ok, no errors after about 50mins.

Lets try and figure out the Kernel Panic Problem:

Ccrma boot
I have booted up into FC4 ccrma
Uname -r=20

Gives me 2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma

If I now type=20

Init 6

I get:

A whole load of characters in a dos like screen and finally=20

Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal Exception in interrupt.

The only way to move forward is hit the reset button.

There appears to be nothing like oops in the /Var/log/messages file.

Non ccrma boot.
If I boot into FC 4

Uname -r=20

Gives me 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4
If I now type=20

Init 6

I get:

Bash: init: command not found.

So to logout I do desktop>logout>logout>

At the login screen I do shutdown and I then get

A whole load of characters in a dos like screen which I normally get and
then  I get:

[<c0103c0e>] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20

and the only way out is to hit the reset button.

> After this is done I get the kernel error.=20

"Wait, at this point you have _not_ installed the Planet CCRMA kernel
(that would be "apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge" followed by a
reboot to try it out) and you have not installed the Planet CCRMA
packages (that would be "apt-get install planetccrma-audioapps", or one
of the other meta packages). If that is all you did you have just
upgraded mostly Fedora Core packages."

I only rebooted the machine twice.

"# PART 1
#
#   For installing Planet CCRMA I basically followed
#   http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installtwosix.html
#   But here is the more compact break down for MY personal actions
#

# install CCRMA version of apt
rpm -Uvh
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/rpms/apt-0.5.15cnc6-4.rhfc4.ccr=
ma.
i386.rpm

# install GPG key for verifying packages
rpm --import
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/RPM-GPG-KEY.planetccrma.txt


# update apt package lists
apt-get update

# install CCRMA kernel and ALSA drivers
apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge

# reboot in to new kernel
# (note, if you run this as a script, it will NOT automatically #  pick =
up
where it leaves off after this :) "

init 6   {first reboot} everything ok with no kernel error.


"# PART 2
#  I raised volume levels on mixer and tested sound
alsamixer    play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_new.wav

# install all cool audio/video apps
apt-get install planetccrma-audiovideoapps

# At THIS point qjackctl, ardour, etc is working.

# make sure EVERYTHING is up to date
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

Now do the second reboot and this is when the kernel error occurred.

Hope that clarifies.

Bal.




-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano [mailto:nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU]=20
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:07 AM
To: Bal Dobe
Cc: 'David Slimp'; planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Subject: RE: PlanetCCRMA] Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !

On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 00:45 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
> Fernando,
>=20
> Thanks for your time and comments on this issue.
>=20
> OK lets try and think this through logically, please bear with me on =
this
I
> am relatively new to  Linux and am still learning.
>=20
> Kernel Panic problem;
> FC4 installs on my machine fine, I can also install all the ccrma
audiovideo
> apps.  Following David's instructions DAW in 2 hours I do not get an =
error
> at the first reboot,via init 6
>=20
> So I install FC4:
>=20
> "just have auto partitioning.... don't select "selinux".
> .. everything just very generic.

(selinux is probably not related to the problem you are having)

> start the GUI, but don't change to KDE
> for now... just do an "init 6" and see if you get that same error.
> Hopefully you'll reboot just fine."
>=20
> I was able to reboot after the FC4 install.
>=20
> Then I did the planet ccrma installs
>=20
> "Log in again, and only upgrade the FC4 stuff first:
> rpm -Uvh
> =
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/rpms/apt-0.5.15cnc6-4.rhfc4.cc
> rma.i386.rpm
> rpm --import
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/RPM-GPG-KEY.planetccrma.txt
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade"
>=20
> After this is done I get the kernel error.=20

Wait, at this point you have _not_ installed the Planet CCRMA kernel
(that would be "apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge" followed by a
reboot to try it out) and you have not installed the Planet CCRMA
packages (that would be "apt-get install planetccrma-audioapps", or one
of the other meta packages). If that is all you did you have just
upgraded mostly Fedora Core packages.=20

> The problem is repeatable, it has happened several times now.

Sorry, I'm still unclear on exactly when the problem is happening.=20
The important thing is: which kernel are you running just before you get
the kernel panic? (if it is a kernel panic).=20

To find out which kernel you are running type: "uname -r" _before_
triggering the problem. As I said before it is unlikely that the problem
is ram (specially after you have tested it with memtest86).=20

If the kernel printed by uname contains the string "rhfc4.ccrma" in the
release part then it is a Planet CCRMA kernel, otherwise you are still
running the Fedora Core kernel.=20

Just a quick question: when the kernel panic happens the machine goes
completely catatonic, right? And the only option you are left with is
the reset button or a power cycle? Just to make sure it is indeed a
kernel panic (or a similar kernel problem). After you reboot from it you
may find traces of the problem in the system log (/var/log/messages),
search for the word "Oops" there.=20

> RAM problem.
> Surely bad ram is bad ram so FC4 should not be able to work not just =
FC4
> ccrma, or am a mistaken?
>=20
> I am doing a memtest86 on my machine at the moment, the machine is =
over a
> year old and was thoroughly tested continuously for about 2 days, upon
being
> built. No Ram errors were found. There are still no errors after 30 =
mins
and
> one pass.

Then probably the ram is fine.=20

First we have to determine what kind of problem you are having, and
under which kernel. If it is indeed a kernel problem triggered by a bug
somewhere in it the solution is, sorry, don't run that kernel :-)

-- Fernando


> If this is the problem, how can I fix it? Buy new ram, how do I know =
that
> will work? Can I just buy more ram and continue to use the ram I have =
in
> conjunction with the new ram?
>=20
> As you can see I seriously hope that it is not a ram issue.
>=20
> Alternative solutions.
>=20
> Load FC4 on another HDD?
> Could the problem be the HDD?  I have three HDDs in the machine and I =
am
> only using linux on one Maxtor 200Gig drive?  I also have a Seagate,
should
> I try and do a reinstall on the Seagate drive and see if that makes =
any
> difference?
>=20
> If it works on the Seagate then I would be happy to move all of my =
windows
> applications to the Maxtor 200G drive and use the Seagate for linux.
>=20
> Reinstall FC3 and ccrma for FC3?
> Should I try and install FC3 an do a ccrma install on that?  Can I =
install
> that on one of my other partitions without upsetting the FC4 install?
> Remember I had problems with the sound on the FC3 install.
>=20
> Is the FC3 ccrma install more stable albeit with latency not as good =
as
FC4?
> I am happy to wait for FC4 to be sorted out and use FC3 in the =
meantime.
> Could I leave my FC4 install and start using a FC3 ccrma kernel?
>=20
> Hope that somebody can help.



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