[PlanetCCRMA] Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !

[David Slimp]

At this point I doubt you need to do a fresh install.
It sounds like your install is fresh enough, but let's keep that option in mind.

One thing that just struck me... maybe you are NOT in the right kernel?

Just because you installed the CCRMA kernel does not mean you will
auto boot to it !  In fact, if you follow my directions, your plain (original)
kernel will be the default.  So make SURE you are choosing the ccrma
kernel when grub pops up!  After you boot, try this:
$ uname -r
2.6.12-0.21.rdt.rhfc4.ccrma

Let me know if that is not it. :)

David




On 2/15/06, Bal Dobe <baldobe2000@yahoo.de> wrote:
> David, I followed your instructions to the letter.
>
> I get the error message on the output during boot up.
>
> When I login it gives me the message below regarding the sound server.
>
> I did not do a BRAND NEW install of FC4, it is an install that I have had
> for a few months but I have no data on it as I want to use FC as a DAW.
>
> I ran the update that you suggested.
>
> I have looked at the matrix page for this card and it says that it is
> possible to support.
>
> I must mention that the sound for FC4 works fine.  It was FC3 that was
> giving me  errors and FC4 ccrma, both give the exact same error.
>
> Can this install be rescued ot do I have to start again with fresh installs?
>
> IMHO I do not think that the issue is regarding the sound card because, as I
> said it works in FC4.  I have managed to get sound out from it.  Therefore I
> think that is MUST be something in the setting for FC3 / FC4 ccrma that
> prevent me from getting any sound output.
>
> I am a little xhausted now, so I think I will call it a day.  If I can not
> solve this tomorrow I will a fresh install but I could well end up with the
> exact same issues.
>
> Good night for now.
>
> Bal.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Slimp [mailto:rock808@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:04 PM
> To: Bal Dobe
> Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !
>
> Hmmm...
> I'm sure you followed the exact commands I did...
>
> Where are you getting that error message? -- I mean,
> is it from an app you are running that plays sound? Or
> is it in the output during boot up?  etc?
>
>
> Did you end up doing a BRAND NEW fresh FC4 install,
> or have you been running this FC4 for a while?  If you've
> been running it for a while have you updated (with apt or yum)
> any of the software?  If so... did you ever add any other
> repositories to your apt or yum config files?
>
> Have you looked at the ALSA Matrix page for tht sound card?
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 2/15/06, Bal Dobe <baldobe2000@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > I have just gone through this for FC4 and I now get the same error that
> > I had in FC3.  That is I get the message,
> >
> > Soundserver informational message
> >
> > Error while initialising the sound driver
> >
> > Device /dev/dsp can't be opened (no such file or directory)
> >
> > The sound server will continue, using null output device.
> >
> >

> > Heeelp.   This is exactly the same error that I get in FC3.  I did get
> > error messages on boot up regarding the sound.
> >
> > I got as far as rebooting into the new FC4 ccrma kernel.
> >
> > Over to you.
> >
> > Bal.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Slimp [mailto:rock808@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:27 PM
> > To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu; Bal Dobe
> > Subject: From zero to DAW in 2 hours !
> >
> > My short little How-To which took me from fresh install to perfect DAW
> > in 2 hours.
> >
> > I'll be expanding on this soon, but Bal wants help "now" so I thought
> > I'd get this out ASAP :)
> >
> > First, let me say I've spent the previous 2-3 weeks trying to get my
> > system
> > up and running with Linux audio/DAW stuff.  It's been very frustrating,
> > and
> > I'm not a linux newbie.  But lots of reading to trying one thing then
> > another
> > to massage my system in to a DAW.  It was all BS.  My two BIGGEST
> > factors were (1) Trying to get the internal sound card to work, and
> > after
> > a few days, then trying a $30 SB Live card which still had problems
> > (2) Trying to install CCRMA on a system I'd been running for 6 months
> > already, not intending it to be a DAW at that time (using various other
> > repositories, etc).
> >
> > Because of that I wasted 2-3 weeks, many body cells died due to
> > high-stress,
> > and I took several people's time on several mailing lists away from
> > probably
> > more important things.
> >
> > Here's the 2 hour, stress-free solution I ended up with:
> >
> > 1) Don't try to work with any cheap/internal cards.  If you're SERIOUS
> > about
> > audio on linux spend the $100-$200 on a WELL supported, fully featured
> > card.
> > I decided on the Delta 1010LT since it seems a majority of people on
> > these
> > lists seem to use that card, and everyone says it's a dream to get
> > working.
> >
> > 2) Install a FRESH version of Fedora Core 4.  Don't be whiney that
> > you've
> > worked hard on your system and like your configuration.  You're not
> > going
> > to be doing what you HAD been doing with the machine... it's going to be
> > your awesome DAW now.. so start it out from ground zero to be JUST that!
> > BACK UP YOUR PERSONAL DATA FIRST!!
> > You can always restore any other important config stuff later.
> > (oh... I picked ext2 for my file system type, since I've read it works
> > better than
> > ext3 for audio)
> >
> > 3) Once FC4 was installed, I followed this EXACT proceedure:
> >
> > # PART 1
> > #
> > #   For installing Planet CCRMA I basically followed
> > #   http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installtwosix.html
> > #   But here is the more compact break down for MY personal actions
> > #
> >
> > # install CCRMA version of apt
> > rpm -Uvh
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt/rpms/apt-0.5.15cnc6-4.rhfc4.cc
> > rma.i386.rpm
> >
> > # install GPG key for verifying packages
> > rpm --import
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/RPM-GPG-KEY.planetccrma.txt
> >
> >
> > # update apt package lists
> > apt-get update
> >
> > # install CCRMA kernel and ALSA drivers
> > apt-get install planetccrma-core-edge
> >
> > # reboot in to new kernel
> > # (note, if you run this as a script, it will NOT automatically
> > #  pick up where it leaves off after this :)
> > init 6
> >
> >
> > # PART 2
> > #  I raised volume levels on mixer and tested sound
> > alsamixer    # for my Delta 1010LT I raised the DAC/DAC1 - hooked to
> > speakers
> > play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_new.wav
> >
> > # install all cool audio/video apps
> > apt-get install planetccrma-audiovideoapps
> >
> > # At THIS point qjackctl, ardour, etc is working.
> >
> > # make sure EVERYTHING is up to date
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get dist-upgrade
> >
> > #
> > # while the above is downloading/installing - config apps as regular
> > user
> > #
> >
> > # grab some cool sound fonts
> > wget ftp://ftp.personalcopy.net/pub/PC51f.sf2.gz
> > wget ftp://ftp.personalcopy.net/pub/Unison.sf2.gz
> >
> > # start jack GUI - set Frames/Period = 512
> > # set to START auto:  Misc->Start jack server on app startup
> > qjackctl &
> >
> > # start qsynth
> > # Audio->Sample Rate = 48000
> > # load Soundfonts (you need to gunzip the ones above, and put in a good
> > dir)
> > # use qjackctl to connect 1010LT midi out to fluidsynth in
> > qsynth &
> >
> > exit
> >
> >
> > ===============
> >
> > Okay.. that's all I have for now, but should have you up and running
> >
> > If you follow that and STILL have problems, then post them here.
> >
> > My time line actually went like this:
> > #  08:30 - I started installing
> > #  09:10 - First boot (get apt, kernel)
> > #  09:44 - Boot to CCRMA kernel (install audio/video apps)
> > #  10:15 - Running jack/ardour
> >
> > Good luck !
> >
> > David
>
>