[LAC-19] LAC-19 Proposal

Romain Michon rmichon at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Thu Aug 2 07:24:13 PDT 2018


All right, I attached the updated version and I committed all changes...
I'll ask Franck Neumann if he wants to be the paper chair and if he's OK
with it, then I'll send the document to the lac-team list.

++

Romain



On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:10 PM Romain Michon <rmichon at ccrma.stanford.edu>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:02 PM Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <
> nando at ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 07/31/2018 08:56 AM, Romain Michon wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I drafted a short proposal describing our project of organizing LAC at
>> > CCRMA next Spring. You can find it in the LAC-19 git
>> > repo: https://cm-gitlab.stanford.edu/rmichon/LAC-19. I also attached
>> the
>> > corresponding PDF with this e-mail, just in case. Any feedback would be
>> > greatly appreciated! I think we want to forward it ASAP to the lac-team
>> > mailing list so that we get the green light from everyone to get
>> > started! If you read the document, you'll see that we'd want to send the
>> > CfP in early September. Here are a few specific notes:
>> >
>> > - I put Franck Neumann as "paper chair". We haven't asked him yet if he
>> > agrees with this but he usually takes care of it and does a very good
>> > job. Any objection? Would someone at CCRMA want to take this role?
>>
>> No objection, he has been very good in the past, hopefully he will agree
>> to contribute again. Unless someone @ ccrma steps forward.
>>
>
> OK, I'll ask him right away then.
>
>
>> > - I left the "Video Streaming" section blank so that Nando can fill it
>> > since I have no idea what you guys used last time. On that note, I
>> > briefly talked to Robin Gareus at IFC about this, and he said that the
>> > system that they used for LAC-12 doesn't seem to be supported anymore. I
>> > would personally vote for "selling our soul to the devil" and using a
>> > "mainstream" platform such as YouTube which would decrease the overall
>> > budget of the conference by at least $2000, but I know that this is a
>> > sensitive topic hehe ;).
>>
>> Did Robin say what he would use these days?
>
>
> Not really...
>
>
>> As you can imagine I would
>> not be happy to have a system that is not open. Ha ha, what a surprise.
>>
>
> Lol.
>
>
>> We used a Linux workstation and streaming software running in our
>> servers. Worked just fine. But it was all set up by Robin and Joern (it
>> was used to record Classroom lectures for quite a while after LAC2012).
>>
>> What is the mainstream platform you have in mind? Just YouTube? What
>> equipment is needed to operate the streaming system? What support is
>> needed from the CCRMA infrastructure? How much does it cost to avoid
>> paying for it with our information (color of our soul, etc) and/or with
>> all our audience absorbing beautifully targeted advertising? (ie:
>> picture a "please buy Windows 10, it is the best operating system there
>> is!" 10 second ad just before each paper session). I imagine all
>> questions could be answered by Dave?
>>
>
> OK, we can leave this open for now and ask what people think about this on
> the LAC-team mailing list and add Dave to this conversation.
>
>
>> > - I probably messed something up with the Ambisonics order of CCRMA
>> > stage and of the listening room, so someone should double check that.
>>
>> ----
>> This 100 seats modular space features a 64 speakers system allowing up
>> to seventh order
>> ambisonics. The CCRMA Listening Room (see Figure 4.5) features a 24
>> speakers system
>> allowing up to third order ambisonics.
>> ----
>>
>> (we cannot fit 100 there, I think, at most 80 for a fully packed
>> concert, about 45 for a "good experience" full 3d concert)
>>
>
> OK, I just copied what's said on the music dpt website, so 60 it is.
>
>
>>
>> ----
>> This 60 seat space features a 56.8 full 3d sound system that can render
>> up to 6th order Ambisonics sound. The CCRMA Listening Room (see Figure
>> 4.5) features a 22.4 speaker system that can render up to 3rd order
>> Ambisonics (and has speakers under the floor)
>> ----
>>
>
> Fixed...
>
>
>> > Of course, this proposal is just a draft (there are probably a few
>> > typos) and it is not set in stone, and everything can be
>> > changed/updated, etc.
>>
>> Typos, etc:
>> "to attend to the conference" -> "attend the conference"?
>> "cheap flights and hotels" -> "cheap flights and insanely expensive
>> lodging"
>>
>
> Fixed ;).
>
> ++
>
> Romain
>


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Romain Michon
Lecturer and Researcher
Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics
Stanford Universityhttps://ccrma.stanford.edu/~rmichon
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