[CM] slime cm-2.10 and ASDF

[Torsten Anders]

On 6 Aug 2013, at 21:47, Ralf Mattes <rm at seid-online.de> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 03:12:54PM -0500, Heinrich Taube wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:07 PM, <anders.vinjar at bek.no> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>   t> However, after loading I noticed that PWGL became unusably
>>>   t> slow. 
>> 
>> i was never able to do much with lisp works,  i think the lisp heap was limited in their free version or something like that. you might try compiling in one pass then loading in another, but i think i tried that and it didn't work or help much. does pwgl only run in lisp works?? oy..
> 
> ... veh! Indeed - one of the reasons I wouldn't touch that system - to dependend on a single implementation[1].

I must confess I share your hesitation, but the PWGL (and OpenMusic) guys  have good reasons to use this proprietary system. They really tried different solutions (in particular the IRCAM team), but having a Lisp program with really heavy graphics on multiple platforms is greatly simplified by LW. Once you played around with PWGL only a short while you will quickly see how involved its graphics are.  


>>> PWGL (e.g., its score editors and break-point functions etc.) alongside CM2, which would be great. 
>> 
>> fwiw  sean furguson wrote a very nice break-point function package in common lisp years ago:
>> 
>> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~ferguson/Ferguson%20Contribs/Apprentice-Envelopes%20Folder/Apprentice-Envelopes.lisp
>> 
>> he also has another nice package that does acoustic dissonance measurement based on Parncutt. 
>> 
>> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~ferguson/Ferguson%20Contribs/Apprentice-Dissonance.lisp
> 
> Hey, some late evening goodies+
> 
> Cheers, RalfD
> 
> 
> [1] N.B: I really value LispWorks - the LW-People I met in Cambridge and on varios Lisp
> Conferences where nice and experts in their field. But we all have seen Lisp Companies 
> disapear (Genera, Harlequin, Macintosh Common Lisp ...). I'd hate to one day wake up to
> find out that all my work can't be used any more because <Lisp Company>/Apple did something
> with my runtime environment. That's why I'm so eager to keep old systems running (I do have
> a collection of old hardware and emulators to run old stuff, but that's not something that
> will last longer than say 10²0 years. The music I do in my other life is more than 500
> years old can still be performed ;-)
> 
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Best wishes,
Torsten

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Dr Torsten Anders
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