[CM] slime cm-2.10 and ASDF

[Torsten Anders]

> Does your PWGL-Lisp produce fasl-files?

Yes, the PWGL application does usually produce *. clufasl files of every library it loads (no other complied files, though, at list not on a Mac). 

Best wishes,
Torsten

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Dr Torsten Anders
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On 6 Aug 2013, at 21:37, Ralf Mattes <rm at seid-online.de> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 06:17:02PM +0100, Torsten Anders wrote:
>> Dear Ralf,
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing your cm.asd file. 
>> 
>> I could load this file into Lisp Works, more specifically as a library into the free PWGL application (http://www2.siba.fi/pwgl/downloads.html). So, in principle this would allow to use PWGL (e.g., its score editors and break-point functions etc.) alongside CM2, which would be great. 
> 
> Hmm, I can't really help you with PWGL - while it looks like a cool
> system I refuse to work with closed source systems with unclear
> licence. As Anders allready pointed out - unless you own a licenced
> (i.e. no-personal) Edition of LispWorks you operate with a rather
> limited system. I couldn't get CM2 working with my personal editon
> (stack overflow).
> 
> 
>> However, after loading I noticed that PWGL became unusably slow. Usually, whenever PWGL loads a library all sources are automatically compiled (resulting in *. clufasl files). For some reason, this is not the case after loading your cm.asd file. So, I had a look at that file and noticed that it contains much much more than the *.asd files I saw before (which usually consist of a single asdf:defsystem call. So, it is a bit difficult to figure out why the sources are not compiled. 
> 
> That's the whole point of my complaint about this asdf file (sometimes
> I think there's some AI hidden in there ...). Time for a major rework -
> this file will not work with asdf3.
> 
>> However, I noticed that in the asdf:defsystem call, most files are called with :scheme set to T. Why is that? After all, there are *.lisp versions of these files as well?
> 
> Well, no. CM is in fact written in Scheme. The Lisp version is
> created by transforming the Scheme code to Lisp. That's one of
> the magic tricks the asdf file does. Does your PWGL-Lisp produce
> fasl-files?
> 
>> For completeness, here are two further minor changes I had to make before I could load CM as a PWGL library. 
>>  - Renaming the file cm.asd into cm2.asd (the name of the system defined with asdf:defsystem).
> 
> Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! That's what I get from just copying. That file came straight from my quicklisp repro where 
> it's of course called cm2.asd.
> 
>>  - The next error then said "Cannot load this library because Scheme source <PathToCM2>/src/gluplot.scm not found". The  CM tar ball version 2.10.0 I just downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/files/cm/ does not contain this file. Luckily I had this file still somewhere else, but perhaps the tar ball should be updated? 
> 
> Ah - probably. Or you get used to work from the svn version.
> 
> Cheers, RalfD
> 
> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Torsten
>> 
>> On 6 Aug 2013, at 10:03, R. Mattes <rm at mh-freiburg.de> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:53:36 +1200, adam wrote
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry to be a pest, gentlemen.
>>> 
>>> You aren't. That's what this list is for.
>>> 
>>>> After setting up sbcl with Quicklisp, and setting the
>>>> environment variable,
>>>> $ export CM_RUNTIME=sbcl
>>>> 
>>>> Running  cm.sh  of CM-2.10 fails with the error below.
>>>> 
>>>> I can supply further information if required. While I can't seem
>>>> to find the sbcl Implementation Notes, I have established that
>>>> UNIX-FILE-KIND is not mentioned in the sbcl manual. Indeed it
>>>> seems to be a reoccurring problem for sbcl.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone can recommend the best fix or patch for this, then
>>>> much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> As a quick fix, just replace the file cm.asd in your cm-directory
>>> with the one in the attachment.
>>> BTW, I find it way more convenient to use CM like this:
>>> 
>>> - create a symboli link from you cm-directory into ~/quicklisp/local-projects [1]
>>> 
>>> - start your lisp of choice and enter:
>>> 
>>> (ql:quickload :cm)
>>> (cm)
>>> 
>>> HTH RalfD
>>> 
>>> [1] on Linux, do:
>>> 
>>> $ ln -s /where/you/installed/cm/ ~/quicklisp/local-projects/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> R. Mattes -
>>> Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg
>>> rm at inm.mh-freiburg.de
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