[CM] cvs and whatnot

[Bill Schottstaedt]

Sourceforge claims it will have CVS working sometime today, but any
such users will need to recheck-out the sources under the new name

snd.cvs.sourceforge.net 

So:

cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at snd.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/snd login 
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at snd.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/snd co cvs-snd

I hope that will work -- I haven't tried it, and my connection to sourceforge has
been broken for several days.



I've looked at a bunch of extension languages; here's my quick take on some:

 * ecl:         (CL)     doable; will require that all direct refs be through 
 *                         xen.c (can't include its header files!); it also 
 *                         requires config.h (colliding with mine), and uses 
 *                         the field "complex" which confuses C.
 * eel:         (C)      a commercial product
 * elastic:     (C)      looks dead (no change since 2001), like Lua in calling sequences
 * elk:         (Scheme) looks dead (no change since 1996) and is worse than stklos 
 *                         in terms of name-space problems
 * GameMonkey:  ()       c++, windows oriented (no linux I think)
 * librep:      (CL)     looks dead, but I still have the macros (xen.h)
 * lua:         ()       doable, but it looks like akcl to me (and it's not freeware?)
 * mzscheme:    (Scheme) doable (I have the xen.h macros for it), but...
 * ocaml:       (ML)     not an extension language, as far as I can tell
 * octave:      (Matlab) c++, probably doable -- I'm looking into this currently 
 *                         [2.1.73 won't build -- g++ trouble?]
 * pike:        (C)      not an extension language
 * python:      ()       looks like ruby to me -- why duplicate?
 * rscheme:     (Scheme) won't build on my systems
 * s-lang:      (C)      probably doable -- would need to wrap everything in my own 
 *                         struct, and 7 args max is too few.
 * squirrel:    ()       c++, like lua in call sequence
 * stklos:      (Scheme) doesn't build libstklos yet, and has many non-unique names 
 *                         in its headers

So, octave is the only one that looks interesting (despite being c++ based -- gah).