<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Many thanks, Orcan, for the response. What I found to be missing is a good documentation about users and groups - how do I find if the group jackuser exists? How do I add myself to it? I did not find this basic information in the fedora documentation on managing users and groups. (I still don't know how I do list all groups on my computer. for example to see if pulse-rt is there so I can add myself to it...)<br></div>After several trials I think I got it working.<br></div>Oded<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 May 2016 at 01:55, Orcan Ogetbil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oget.fedora@gmail.com" target="_blank">oget.fedora@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 26 May 2016 at 11:21, Oded Ben-Tal wrote:<br>
> I might be able to answer my own questions:<br>
> there is a /etc/securit/limits.d/95-jack.conf which defines(?) a jackuser<br>
> group with rt permissions. When I added myself to that group I was able to<br>
> run jackd and get sound working.<br>
> (BTW - managing users and groups is not transparent in the current fedora<br>
> documentation and could be more friendly)<br>
><br>
<br>
</span>Hi Oded,<br>
I agree with you that the current jack set up the user has to go<br>
through is suboptimal. The reason for that is we could not find a way<br>
to make it better.<br>
Currently, there is the online documentation [1] and the README file<br>
[2] that we added to the jack package a while ago. So we assume that<br>
the user will get frustrated and come across one of these places.<br>
<br>
The jack package is at the root of all installations so the jack<br>
package installation looks like the best candidate to be associated<br>
with the audio setup. We do not have the option of adding all users to<br>
the jackuser group in the default Fedora installation (I do not<br>
remember what the default is on the Jam spin?). The package<br>
installation is done by the super user which doesn't know which users<br>
should really be in the group. So the user is left with doing it<br>
manually.<br>
<br>
But the user can install the packages in so many ways. They can use<br>
their favorite package management GUI, or command line dnf, yum or<br>
even rpm to install. There is no standardized way of passing the<br>
information to the users with all these tools. Moreover the package<br>
installation can be part of an automated process so we cannot<br>
interrupt it to show a pop up to display a message to the user.<br>
<br>
That said, if you have any suggestions we will certainly take it into<br>
consideration.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Orcan<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Musicians_Guide/sect-Musicians_Guide-Using_JACK.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Musicians_Guide/sect-Musicians_Guide-Using_JACK.html</a><br>
[2] /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit/README.Fedora<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Oded Ben-Tal<br><a href="http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded" target="_blank">http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded</a><br><a href="http://soundcloud.com/odedbental" target="_blank">http://soundcloud.com/odedbental</a><br><div></div></div>
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