[PlanetCCRMA] Basic Newbie stuff

Lloyd Hanson planetccrma at webmoron.net
Mon Sep 6 13:16:05 PDT 2010

Thanks Fernando!

This has been an ongoing project for a couple of days now.  Suddenly the 
progress is amazing.  After removing pulseaudio completely (as far as I 
can tell), I grabbed the binary to Niels's Mudita24 and replaced my 
envy24control.  At some point, a reboot and suddenly everything works.

All of a sudden, Alsa Mixer sees the entire card along with the 
enhancements that Niels has made to the envy24control file.

This machine won't spend that much time surfing, but it seemed as though 
it should be able to play the odd flash file every now and then.  My son 
does quite a bit of flash animation online and it's important to me to 
be able to see them whenever I want a laugh or need a break.

Again, thanks to all for the help!  Thanks to Geoff for the suggestion 
to remove Pulseaudio.  It appears I don't need it.

Thanks Niels for the enhancements to envy24control.  I only have one 
question.  Is there any way to gang the analog volume settings?  If not, 
could you consider that in the next version?

Best Regards to all!

Lloyd Hanson

On 09/06/2010 03:48 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 15:05 -0400, Lloyd Hanson wrote:
>> Sorry for the late reply, but I hate posting spurious information, so I
>> have wanted to test everything twice to verify what I've been doing.
>> My problems with jackd were largely self inflicted.  I was starting it
>> from the command line and mistakenly thought it was refusing to start.
>> So I was then bringing up Qjackctl and of course it wouldn't start
>> either as there was already an instance of jackd running.
>> The epiphany came when I d/l Hydrogen for testing as per Fernando's
>> suggestion.  Thank you Fernando!   I opened it and suddenly had sound.
>> This surprised me because I figured I shouldn't have anything if jackd
>> wasn't running (I hadn't started it).  But I found a copy running, which
>> turned out to be a temporary copy that Hydrogen had started.
>> Linux has been on several of my computers for a very long time, but I've
>> never explored the audio subsystems in any depth. Mainly, I used them
>> for file and web serving and little else.  In that sense I am so far
>> behind the curve it's ridiculous.
>> But I now have audio through jack, which is my main goal.  Now I just
>> have to figure out how to get audio through the card for the routine
>> stuff, like the web browser, flash player, etc.
> Ah, ok. That requires some customization because of your particular
> soundcard, it's been a long standing "bug"... Pulseaudio (which is the
> subsystem that handles audio in Fedora when you are not using jack) does
> not find a configuration for this soundcard and does not use it. There
> are several ways to fix this, the newest I have been trying is (from one
> of my ticket logs):
> --------
> On Fri Jul 30 10:35:16 2010, nando wrote:
>> There is now a new way to configure multichannel soundcards so that
>> they work with pulseaudio, see:
>> http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/624
>> and comment #52 in:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
>> We need to configure this in our workstations and add all the stuff to
>> normalize (we currently do this for the ice1712 cards but not for the
>> rme cards).
> Created a udev rule in:
> /lib/udev/rules.d/91-pulseaudio-extra.rules
> Create ice1712 configuration file in:
> /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/profile-sets/via-ice1712.conf
> --------
> (I'm attaching the two files that I am using, maybe they will work for
> the 1010lt, I don't know).
> Then you could use the "Sound Preferences" applet to see what pulseaudio
> sees in your system (you may need to reboot or restart pulseaudio - then
> right click on the speaker in the top panel in your desktop if you are
> using gnome) and select the default sink and source for an application.
> Things are not so easy, see:
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/DefaultDevice
> What I did in my test machine was to disable the onboard soundcard in
> the BIOS so that Pulse does not have any options and always selects the
> Delta 66 (the card in my machine).
> -- Fernando
>> Niels, I will try mudita 24 in the not too distant future, but I need to
>> walk before I can run.  I have yet to install the real-time kernel and
>> fully avail myself of the gifts that Fernando and company have made
>> available to the community.
>> Thank you all for your responses.  I'm sure that as I move up the
>> learning curve, I'll be back to pick the excellent minds that frequent
>> the planet!

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