[PlanetCCRMA] New Fedora updates policy and what it means for us

Simon Lewis simon.lewis at slnet-online.de
Tue Oct 5 11:53:07 PDT 2010


Hello Orcan

I would just to thank you for all your efforts regarding redland even if 
the OOo packagers didn't budge in the end.

Best regards, Simon

Am 05.10.2010 01:42, schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
> Hi all,
>
> Fedora steering committee (FESCo) came to a final decision about the
> updates policy which is effective now. While it has many restrictions
> for updates that we won't like, it is not as bad as we feared.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy
>
> A couple of headliners that I need to stress:
>
> - An update to a stable release of Fedora (12 and 13 for the time
> being) MUST go to updates-testing repo. It has to stay there one week
> at least. If it gets +3 karma, OR if it get +(1+1) karma where one of
> those +1s is given by a proventester, he package is pushed to stable
> (the updates repo). Since I usually keep stuff in updates-testing,
> this is not a big problem for us.
>
> - Package maintainers MUST:
>
>      * Avoid Major version updates, ABI breakage or API changes if at
> all possible.
>      * Avoid changing the user experience if at all possible.
>      * Avoid updates that are trivial or don't affect any Fedora users
>
> This means that no major bumps in software in stable Fedora releases.
> For instance, the rosegarden 1.7.3 to 10.02 jump will not happen
> again. Libraries cannot be updated, e.g. Fedora 12 must stay with the
> old redland*.
>
> FESCo does not want people to learn user interfaces in the middle of a
> release. i.e. a command line program cannot change its flags, a
> graphical program cannot move its menu items, checkboxes around etc.
>
> Fortunately, they open us a window for requesting exceptions. As an
> example the KDE team was granted an exception of bumping 1 major
> release in a stable Fedora release. KDE4.5 and 4.6 will be in Fedora
> 14. But 4.7 will not be.
>
> Therefore in case you need some major update badly, please file a bug
> in bugzilla.redhat.com , yell, explain why this must be updated, so
> that when I or other packagers go to FESCo, we have some solid
> evidence in our hands.
>
> Cheers,
> Orcan
>
> * We tried really bad to convince OpenOffice.org people for updating
> redland in F-12. The old version was not suitable for many audio
> applications. They did not change their mind. With the new policy this
> became even harder to do.
>
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