[PlanetCCRMA] Qtractor 0.4.5svn1517

Sat May 15 09:05:46 PDT 2010

On 05/15/2010 10:55 AM, Niels Mayer wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora at gmail.com
> <mailto:oget.fedora at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Simon Lewis wrote:
>     >
>     > Sorry, Orcan Ogetbil is the package specialist...
>     >
> 
>     Sorry, I am reluctant to package a random SVN revision and put it into
>     stable updates. Is there a specific patch (or a set of patches) that I
>     can backport to the latest stable version to resolve your issues?
> 
>     Or let me rephrase my question. What is the *earliest* SVN revision
>     that your issue is fixed. Maybe I can track the patch from there.
> 
> 
> I strongly second that this version of qtractor be included in the CCRMA
> repo. It is very solid, and very nice!! I've tested it extensively today
> and it never crashed, never did anything unexpected, and kept up with
> everything. I was also wondering when I'll be giving rosegarden another
> chance, as qtractor is much closer to what I expect as it's based on the
> last sensible DAW I ever used: Cakewalk Pro Audio
> ( http://www.rncbc.org/jack/qtractor-0.1.0-whitepaper.pdf ). Yes,
> rosegarden's integrated notation, extensive feature set, documentation
> and maturity is great. But the direct integration of audio and midi, and
> the simplicity and "ease of flow" of qtractor is more important for my
> purposes. Given that many of the "future features" from the
> aforementioned whitepaper have already been implemented, I have high
> hopes that qtractor will be able to remain competitive with any future
> developments on other platforms and other DAWs.
> 
> Other than its complete jack-ification, the thing that makes qtractor
> stand out is the compatibility with Cakewalk instrument definition files
> available on the net. For example, I quickly
> googled-upon http://www.cybertown.com/xginstr.zip --> YamahaXG.ins, a
> Cakewalk instrument definition file which creates names for patches,
> voices, banks in my Yamaha db60xg synth-daughterboard. I'm sure all my
> other synths and gear will be just as easy to find because there's a lot
> of Cakewalk users on the internet.
> 
> Another important feature is midi controller mappings, which are
> hellishly tedious to implement in a one-off fashion. It is nice that
> qtractor provides a framework on which people can start sharing control
> surface layouts and definitions, just like cakewalk did with it's .ins
> format: http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/142
> 
>     Greatest thanks goes to Mathias Krause aka gizzmo, who contributed
>     with the fundamental code to the new MIDI controller mapping
>     functionality that now widens the Qtractor
>     <http://qtractor.sourceforge.net> horizon with regard from generic
>     control surfaces. Being the Behringer BCF2000
>     <http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/BCF2000.aspx> a notable
>     example, control feedback is fully supported so that those fancy
>     motorized faders, knobs and lights, actually reflect the whole
>     mixing and editing session state. Some pre-made files are here
>     provided for your convenience: bcx2000.qtc </datahub/bcx2000.qtc> is
>     to import into Qtractor (View/Controllers...) and a couple of
>     presets goes into your BCF2000, Qtractor_Mixer_1-8.syx
>     </datahub/Qtractor_Mixer_1-8.syx> and Qtractor_Mixer_9-16.syx
>     </datahub/Qtractor_Mixer_9-16.syx>, respectively for the first and
>     second set of eight channel/track strips.
> 
> 
> W/r/t packaging a "random svn revision" -- this seems a
> common occurrence in Fedora:
> 
>     mplayer-common-1.0-0.112.20100424svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     ffmpeg-libs-0.5-5.20091026svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     webkitpart-0.0.5-0.2.svn1088283.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     mencoder-1.0-0.112.20100424svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     libdvdnav-4.1.4-0.1.svn1184.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     qimageblitz-0.0.4-0.6.svn706674.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.1-0.5.133722svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     libdvdread-4.1.4-0.2.svn1188.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     mplayer-1.0-0.112.20100424svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-2.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     mono-addins-0.4-9.20091702svn127062.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     xjadeo-0.4.7-1.svn200.fc12.ccrma.x86_64
> 
>     ltrace-0.5-14.45svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
>     ffmpeg-0.5-5.20091026svn.fc12.x86_64
> 
> 
> A random "snapshot" numbered release makes sense, if it fixes a platform
> bug in a major release, such as the x86_64-specific problem, and
> crashing when loading project files from prior versions. For example, I
> recently posted about the latest Fedora qtractor regularly
> core-dumping: http://old.nabble.com/Re:-qtractor-on-planetccrma-older-than-rpmfusion-version--p28552771.html
> 
> Simon Lewis mentioned
> ( http://old.nabble.com/qtractor-on-planetccrma-older-than-rpmfusion%09version--p28553871.html )
> 
>     Try svn 1517 of Qtractor, there is a bug fix for loading projects
>     saved from earlier versions. I can send you the srpm if you like -
>     its 700k.
> 
> 
> I tested  qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-2.fc12.x86_64 today from Simon's SRPM
> and was able to edit files that I had formerly recorded but could never
> load again without crashing. 
> 
> I haven't yet tested any of the plugins, but I noted that it seems to
> have very complete support for all the major plugin formats, once you
>  go to View->Options...->Plugins and setup /usr/llib64/dssi
> /usr/lib64/ladspa /usr/lib64/lv2 (which needs to be done manually).
> 

thanks for your support Niels.

first hand news are qtractor svn trunk is pretty stable as is now
(qtractor 0.4.5.1568 aka svn r1565)

you can expect an upstream 0.4.6 release before the end of the month, i
hope ;)

cheers
-- 
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc at rncbc.org