[PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA

Bruce Elliott belliott4488 at verizon.net
Mon Nov 23 22:39:12 PST 2009

Hello, Stephen,

I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm not sure that I'm using ALSA - I would have just assumed that I was because I thought it was the default sound system  for Fedora.  When I open the GUI volume control, I see a playback entry for "ALSA Plug-in [Firefox]", but it seems to have no effect, so maybe there's a Firefox plugin looking for ALSA, but it isn't there?  Where would I look to verify that I'm using ALSA (I believe  I want to, right?).

Or, - better yet - if the Planet CCRMA packages are up-to-date for F11, and all this is moot if I upgrade, then maybe I should just do that (?).  The only reason I installed F10 is that the Planet CCRMA at Home pages don't mention Fedora 11 yet, so I thought it was not recommended for use with the Planet CCRMA packages yet.


From: Stephen Stubbs <theother1510 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Bruce Elliott <belliott4488 at verizon.net>
Cc: PlanetCCRMA List <planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 9:00:14 AM
Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA

Hello Bruce,
You are using PulseAudio with Fedora 10.  Are you also using ALSA?
If you are using ALSA, then you need to search through the ALSA packages and remove the one that refers to PulseAudio.  It's something like ALSA output to PulseAudio backend.  In Fedora 10, PulseAudio was not always playing nice with the other sound systems/servers/utilities.
An alternative is to upgrade to Fedora 11.  It appears the ALSA and PulseAudio problems have been resolved and the two systems get along.  I tend to mistrust PulseAudio completely and disable/remove as much of it as is possible with whatever Fedora version I'm running.

 From: Bruce Elliott <belliott4488 at verizon.net>
To: planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:42:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA

I have not seen any responses to my post below.  Is it too basic for this list, and if so, is there a better place for me to seek help? I'm hoping that my problem is fairly simple, and that it can be resolved with a few diagnostic tests, but I'm not sure how to proceed.


 From: Bruce Elliott <belliott4488 at verizon.net>
To: planetccrma at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 11:10:37 AM
Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] setting up new system with Delta 1010LT + Intel HDA

I'm setting up a new PC and  hope to use the CCRMA packages for some simple home recording projects.  The PC has a 64-bit processor, so I've installed the x86_64 version of Fedora 10.  I've done the basic steps of adding the Planet CCRMA repositories and installed the real time kernel, so I'm think I'm ready to try and get started.

First, I need to get my cards set up right.  I have an M-Audio Delta 1010LT card, which I'd like to use for working with music and the Intel HDA card built in to the motherboard, which I'd be happy to use for things like system notifications and other incidental sounds.  Here is what the system tells me about the cards:

# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xf9200000 irq 22
 1 [M1010LT        ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010LT
                      M Audio Delta 1010LT at 0xb000, irq 20
Here is my modprobe.conf: 

# cat /etc/modprobe.conf
alias snd-card-0 snd_hda_intel
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd_hda_intel index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd_ice1712
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd_ice1712 index=1

I put the Intel card first, since the CCRMA installation instructions say that the first one is "usually the default device used by all programs", and I figured that if some application decides to make an unexpected noise, then I don't want it going through my music system; in other words, I'd like to choose what I send through the Delta 1010 card.  Does that make sense?

Here's what is happening so far:  I get no sounds out of my speakers except when I go to the KDE System Settings|Multimedia and test some of the output devices.  The list of devices, which I can order differently for Notifications, Music, Video, etc, shows these:

HDA Intel (ALC883 Analog)
M Audio Delta 1010LT (ICE1712 multi)
HDA Intel (ALC883 Digital)
PulseAudio Sound Server

The only ones that produce any sounds when I test them are the HDA Analog device and the Delta 1010 device, but the weird thing is that output seems to be coming out of the built-in output jack (on the motherboard) in either case.  Does the OS route output from the Delta 1010 through the built-in card to its output jack?  Also, I've connected only the first two RCA analog outputs from the Delta 1010 to my desktop speaker system - should I use a different pair of outputs for testing?

Playing a CD directly from the CD drive works, but playing music files from Amarok does not.

I'll leave it at that for now.  Any suggestions for what I should do next?

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