[PlanetCCRMA] [GL] Planet CCRMA and (new) Gadget Labs driver questions...

[David Marion]

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 08:33 -0400, Mike Mazarick wrote:
>> Greetings, list!!!
>>
>> I’m testing out a new (unreleased to alsa) driver, and am unsure of
>> whether I’m running into driver issues, FC8 issues, or something else
>> (most likely, “the ‘nut’ behind the wheel”).
>>
>>  
>> Here are the issues:
>>
>> 1.        When the driver is loaded into a FC8 CCRMA setup (by
>> directly inserting the module with the command ‘insmod ./gl824.ko’),
> 
> You probably should use modprobe, that will take care of dependencies if
> any (more general purpose than insmod). 

I'm having issues with it recognizing my CD-ROM drive and applying 
updates. (I'm not happy with FC8 right now.)

The module should not have any external dependencies.
(However, see note below about pulseaudio.)


>> Notice the group is ‘audio’.  
> 
> The /dev/snd/* files in a Fedora system should be owned by whoever is
> logged into the console (into the graphical login). This is so that only
> the logged in user can use the audio devices. No audio group by
> default. 
> 
> Are you looking at this from a text console without logging into a
> graphical session?
> 
> The permissions are controlled through /etc/security/console.perms*
> 
>> Now, we can work around this small issue by putting the user account
>> in the ‘audio’ group. 
> 
> Hmm, not in Fedora right? There is no audio group, I think. Or at least
> it is not necessary to have one. 
> 
>>  However, I don’t think that is normally done, so I’d be interested in
>> hearing what the normal group id is for the devices in /dev/snd for a
>> PlanetCCRMA/FC8 distribution. 
> 
> Files should be owned by the logged in user, that is done automagically
> by the system at login time. 
> 

Fedora 7 and 8 are known to have broken sound:
   http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/rhsound.html

Fedora 9 is supposed to fix the sound, but the release is 13 May.
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule

I'm not sure having somebody new to Linux edit a .perms file is a good 
way to start them off. (Maybe use an install script to do it.)

Here is the bug report...
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=292201

This is how to modify the .perms file:
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=292201#c6

Most people like Ubuntu because it works with almost any hardware.
   http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/05/05/1440214.shtml


>> It’s probably not a big deal one way or the other, but we would prefer
>> to do something consistent with what normally occurs as far as
>> permissions in multiple distributions.   I’m pushing for Planet CCRMA
>> testing, but several of the folks seem to prefer Ubunto over Fedora
>> (and it would be good if it worked in both).
>>
>> Please let me know the normal user permissions and ownership structure
>> of the /dev/snd devices.   If they are all ‘user-root, group-root, no
>> world read/write permission’ how are they accessed?

I'm guessing, all /dev/snd devices in FC8 are root,root because 
everything goes through pulseaudio:
   http://www.pulseaudio.org/
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio