From keys_sax@tpg.com.au Fri Jun 1 09:01:01 2007 From: keys_sax@tpg.com.au (Peter Baker) Date: Fri Jun 1 08:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA/NVidia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46603485.7080308@tpg.com.au> Hi All I´ve noticed lots of email traffic about this and about ntfs at times. As I finally replaced my 10 year old machine with a brand new one, I´m now starting to play with planetccrma which is great!! A friend of mineÅ› solution which works well is not to use rpms but use the shell script from the nvidia site. When it can´t find an appropriate rpm the script prompts you and asks if it should build and install the nvidia kernel modules. Of course you need to rerun the script each time you get a new kernel but its pretty painless. See http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html which also has legacy stuff This works really well for me Also on a related note, ntfs-3g from extras seems to work very well with reading/writing ntfs partitions and avoids the kernel module kmod approach Hope this helps someone cheers Peter Matt Barber wrote: > Hello, > > Sure thing, glad it was helpful. > > Matt > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:50:51 +0200 > From: Louis van Dompselaar > > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] PlanetCCRMA/NVidia > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------090503030300080602010107 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'd like to thank Matt again for the instructions below. I only > now came to > trying them and finally got kmod-nvidia-legacy to work on ccrma/fc6! > > > Matt Barber > > /Sun May 20 13:09:03 2007/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > You have to hack the spec file, and there are only a couple of > things that > need to be changed for nvidia -- > > substitute your current ccrma kernel name ( output of uname -r ) > for the > fedora kernel in kversion definition. Mine looks like this: > > %{!?kversion: %define kversion 2.6.21-0143.rt1.3.fc6.ccrmart } > > > in the kvariants definition line, remove all of the variants except > %{?upvar} -- since you're not building variants for a xen kernel > (etc...). > > my line looks like this: > > %{!?kvariants: %define kvariants %{?upvar}} > > I usually delete all the corresponding preceding definitions as well, > leaving only > > %define upvar "" > > > write it, and then > > rpmbuild -ba --target i686 nvidia-kmod.spec > > (this will make both the module and a .src.rpm for you to use > later if you > wish) > > > > --------------090503030300080602010107 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > I'd like to thank Matt again for the instructions below.  I > only now > came to
> trying them and finally got kmod-nvidia-legacy to work on > ccrma/fc6!
>
>
> Matt Barber title="[PlanetCCRMA] kmod-ntfs">
> Sun May 20 13:09:03 2007 >
> 
You have to hack the spec file, and there are only a couple
>     of things that
>     need to be changed for nvidia --
>
>     substitute your current ccrma kernel name ( output of uname -r )
>     for the
>     fedora kernel in kversion definition. Mine looks like this:
>
>     %{!?kversion: %define kversion 2.6.21-0143.rt1.3.fc6.ccrmart}
>
>
>     in the kvariants definition line, remove all of the variants except
>     %{?upvar} -- since you're not building variants for a xen kernel
>     (etc...).
>
>     my line looks like this:
>
>     %{!?kvariants: %define kvariants %{?upvar}}
>
>     I usually delete all the corresponding preceding definitions as well,
>     leaving only
>
>     %define upvar ""
>
>
>     write it, and then
>
>     rpmbuild -ba --target i686 nvidia-kmod.spec
>
>     (this will make both the module and a .src.rpm for you to use
>     later if you
>     wish)
>
> > > > --------------090503030300080602010107-- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > End of PlanetCCRMA Digest > > From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Fri Jun 1 09:55:03 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Fri Jun 1 08:55:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA/NVidia In-Reply-To: <46603485.7080308@tpg.com.au> References: <46603485.7080308@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: ------=_Part_7971_3406658.1180713284496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline T25lIG5pY2UgdGhpbmcgYWJvdXQgZG9pbmcgaXQgd2l0aCBSUE0gaXMgdGhhdCB5b3Uga25vdyBl eGFjdGx5IHdoYXQgaXQncwpwdXR0aW5nIG9uIHlvdXIgc3lzdGVtLCBhbmQgeW91IGhhdmUgZnVs bCBjb250cm9sIG92ZXIgaW5zdGFsbGluZyBvcgp1bmluc3RhbGxpbmcgLS0gdXNlZnVsIGlmIHlv 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PlanetCCRMA/NVidia Message-ID: (Wow, that last one didn't go at all -- what I meant to say was): One nice thing about doing it with RPM is that you know exactly what it's putting on your system, and you have full control over installing or uninstalling -- useful if you like or need to tinker with hardware, e.g., or like to run tests on kernels. They are also especially useful if you sysadmin a number of computers -- you can just put the RPMS on a server and install from there as needed, with other kmods and packages. I rebuild csound (csound's "sndinfo" utility conflicts with that from snd; also for csoundapi object in PD), mplayer (for jack support), and wine (for compatibility with ccrma's libjack) as well, and it's nice to have all the rpms in one place. It looks to me like it's becoming more and more standard for distributions to have their package managers handle third-party modules. I know this is the case with ubuntu, for instance. Matt From keys_sax@tpg.com.au Fri Jun 1 10:08:01 2007 From: keys_sax@tpg.com.au (Peter Baker) Date: Fri Jun 1 09:08:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: PlanetCCRMA/NVidia In-Reply-To: References: <46603485.7080308@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <46604455.5080209@tpg.com.au> Hi Matt You make some good points but luckily I only have one machine to look after :-) Cheers peter Matt Barber wrote: > One nice thing about doing it with RPM is that you know exactly what > it's putting on your system, and you have full control over installing > or uninstalling -- useful if you like or need to tinker with hardware, > e.g., or like to run tests on kernels. They are also especially > useful if you sysadmin a number of computers -- you can just put the > RPMS on a server and install from there as needed, with other kmods > and packages. I rebuild csound (csound's "sndinfo" utility conflicts > with that from snd; also for csoundapi object in PD), mplayer (for > jack support), and wine (for compatibility with ccrma's libjack) as > well, and it's nice to have all the rpms in one place. > > It looks to me like it's becoming more and more standard for > distributions to have their package managers handle third-party > modules. I know this is the case with ubuntu, for instance. > > Matt > > On 6/1/07, *Peter Baker* > wrote: > > Hi All > > I´ve noticed lots of email traffic about this and about ntfs at times. > As I finally replaced my 10 year old machine with a brand new one, I´m > now starting to play with planetccrma which is great!! > > A friend of mine¶ solution which works well is not to use rpms but use > the shell script from the nvidia site. When it can´t find an > appropriate > rpm the script prompts you and asks if it should build and install the > nvidia kernel modules. Of course you need to rerun the script each > time > you get a new kernel but its pretty painless. See > http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html which also has legacy stuff > > This works really well for me > > Also on a related note, ntfs-3g from extras seems to work very > well with > reading/writing ntfs partitions and avoids the kernel module kmod > approach > > Hope this helps someone > > cheers > Peter > > Matt Barber wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Sure thing, glad it was helpful. > > > > Matt > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:50:51 +0200 > > From: Louis van Dompselaar > > >> > > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > > > > > Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] PlanetCCRMA/NVidia > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------090503030300080602010107 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > I'd like to thank Matt again for the instructions below. I only > > now came to > > trying them and finally got kmod-nvidia-legacy to work on > ccrma/fc6! > > > > > > Matt Barber > >> > > /Sun May 20 13:09:03 2007/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > You have to hack the spec file, and there are only a couple of > > things that > > need to be changed for nvidia -- > > > > substitute your current ccrma kernel name ( output of uname -r ) > > for the > > fedora kernel in kversion definition. Mine looks like this: > > > > %{!?kversion: %define kversion 2.6.21-0143.rt1.3.fc6.ccrmart } > > > > > > in the kvariants definition line, remove all of the variants > except > > %{?upvar} -- since you're not building variants for a xen > kernel > > (etc...). > > > > my line looks like this: > > > > %{!?kvariants: %define kvariants %{?upvar}} > > > > I usually delete all the corresponding preceding definitions > as well, > > leaving only > > > > %define upvar "" > > > > > > write it, and then > > > > rpmbuild -ba --target i686 nvidia-kmod.spec > > > > (this will make both the module and a .src.rpm for you to use > > later if you > > wish) > > > > > > > > --------------090503030300080602010107 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to thank Matt again for the instructions below.  I > > only now > > came to
> > trying them and finally got kmod-nvidia-legacy to work on > > ccrma/fc6!
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> > Sun May 20 13:09:03 2007 > >
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>     >     (this will make both the module and a .src.rpm for you to use
>     >     later if you
>     >     wish)
> >
> > > > > > > > --------------090503030300080602010107-- > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > End of PlanetCCRMA Digest > > > > > > From bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 1 13:37:00 2007 From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Fri Jun 1 12:37:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: sndinfo In-Reply-To: <20070601190004.30393.87426.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20070601190004.30393.87426.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20070601193015.M21556@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> > (csound's "sndinfo" utility conflicts with that from snd; Fernando mentioned this to me awhile ago -- Snd's sndinfo is just a demo program for sndlib, so it's not a big deal to me to omit it. When I used that name, I did not notice any name conflicts (this was around 1998 for the Snd packaging process). From oiro@email.arizona.edu Fri Jun 1 19:11:01 2007 From: oiro@email.arizona.edu (oiro@email.arizona.edu) Date: Fri Jun 1 18:11:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] ccrma kernel and fedora package updater Message-ID: <20070601181035.ctkgo0o8co80kk88@www.email.arizona.edu> Hello, I am running ccrma with FC6. Just starting to get the hang of things. I definately want to thank all the people who put work into this distro!! Some general questions about the the kernel.... 1. The Fedora package updater says there's updated kernel packages to install, but the kernel it's recommending is "Update to kernel 2.6.20.11". However, ccrma is 2.6.21...etc. Why does fedora want to update to that kernel? Does this have something to do with how ccrma is a kernel module of some sort? Should I install the update? 2. Also, there are two broken links in /lib/modules/2.6.21-0143.rt1.3.fc6.ccrmart. Not sure why or what their function is. 3. Why is the ccrma rt kernel not listed in /usr/src/kernels ? I ask because I'm wondering how grub knows about the ccrma kernel.... Thanks! Gregorio Canelos From headtrip@email.it Sat Jun 2 09:27:01 2007 From: headtrip@email.it (HeadTrip) Date: Sat Jun 2 08:27:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] info driver ati fglrx installation on your kernel Message-ID: <200706021724.11471.headtrip@email.it> hi,guy at Firstly I arise; I'm Headtrip and I'm glad to knew you at secondly I'm sorry for my bad English; I'm Italian ;) So,I had met your great work from your web pages and I've installed simply everything your compiled software on my system from your repository Now I have your kernel installed and all your software,but I have a question: as I've installed your kernel on my fedora 6, I don't manage to install ati driver on my system becouse before ,I got install fglrx modules from livna repository now if I try to install kmod-fglrx from livna repository, I get that it is not possible becouse the kernel whence it doing reference is not installed this is the error from yumex: Missing Dependency: kernel-i686 = 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6 is needed by package kmod-fglrx Can I have some information to install ati modules in my system please thanks for your support From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jun 2 11:28:04 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jun 2 10:28:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] ccrma kernel and fedora package updater In-Reply-To: <20070601181035.ctkgo0o8co80kk88@www.email.arizona.edu> References: <20070601181035.ctkgo0o8co80kk88@www.email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <1180805247.8084.11.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 18:10 -0700, oiro@email.arizona.edu wrote: > Hello, > > I am running ccrma with FC6. Just starting to get the hang of things. I > definately want to thank all the people who put work into this distro!! > > Some general questions about the the kernel.... > > 1. The Fedora package updater says there's updated kernel packages to install, > but the kernel it's recommending is "Update to kernel 2.6.20.11". However, > ccrma is 2.6.21...etc. Why does fedora want to update to that kernel? Does > this have something to do with how ccrma is a kernel module of some sort? > Should I install the update? The Planet CCRMA is a full kernel, not a kernel module. But the naming is different from the stock Fedora kernel, it is called "kernel-rt" and not just "kernel"[*]. So, if you see an update for "kernel" then that's for the stock Fedora kernel. You can install it or not, your choice. It usually would not make sense if you want to just use the Planet CCRMA kernel. Be aware that if you do, it will become the default boot kernel, something which you can change by editing /boot/grub/grub.conf (you have to change the "index" line to point to the zero based index of the kernel entry you want to boot by default). > 2. Also, there are two broken links in > /lib/modules/2.6.21-0143.rt1.3.fc6.ccrmart. Not sure why or what their function > is. Hmmm, I guess that's a mistake in the spec file (I'm using one derived from the Fedora kernel... I'll look again to see if that's been changed in the most recent one). Thanks for the report... > 3. Why is the ccrma rt kernel not listed in /usr/src/kernels ? I ask because I'm > wondering how grub knows about the ccrma kernel.... The files there are only used when building extra kernel modules for the kernel and they are part of the (in the case of the Planet CCRMA kernel) kernel-rt-devel package which is not installed by default. The info that grub uses is in its configuration file, /boot/grub/grub.conf and the relevant files are stored in /boot -- Fernando [*] obligatory yum bashing: and that choice was forced on me by the fact that yum dictates policy in the case of kernel packages. It does not allow you to install a kernel that is older from the point of view of rpm than the one already installed and AFAIK there is no way to override that choice (dumb!). It may be that the newest Planet CCRMA kernel is "older" from the point of view of rpm than the Fedora kernel and then you can't install it with yum if the name is the same! From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jun 2 11:30:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jun 2 10:30:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] info driver ati fglrx installation on your kernel In-Reply-To: <200706021724.11471.headtrip@email.it> References: <200706021724.11471.headtrip@email.it> Message-ID: <1180805392.8084.14.camel@cmn2.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 17:24 +0200, HeadTrip wrote: > hi,guy > > at Firstly I arise; I'm Headtrip and I'm glad to knew you > > at secondly I'm sorry for my bad English; I'm Italian ;) > > So,I had met your great work from your web pages and I've installed simply > everything your compiled software on my system from your repository > > Now I have your kernel installed and all your software,but I have a question: > as I've installed your kernel on my fedora 6, I don't manage to install ati > driver on my system becouse before ,I got install fglrx modules from livna > repository > > now if I try to install kmod-fglrx from livna repository, I get that it is not > possible becouse the kernel whence it doing reference is not installed > > this is the error from yumex: > > Missing Dependency: kernel-i686 = 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6 is needed by package > kmod-fglrx > > Can I have some information to install ati modules in my system please You need to rebuild the package for the Planet CCRMA kernel. You need to first install the "kernel-rt-devel" package so you have the right headers available and then you have to download the .src.rpm that corresponds to the kmod-fglrx and rebuild it for your new kernel... Hope that will help you get started. -- Fernando From sandysj@juno.com Mon Jun 4 12:01:01 2007 From: sandysj@juno.com (Jeff Sandys) Date: Mon Jun 4 11:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libpthread for freebob/ffado Message-ID: <20070604.110029.16068.311343@webmail16.dca.untd.com> I tried to configure freebob and it complained about a missing libpthread. How can I install libpthread? Freebob (now called ffado) would be a great addition to planet-CCRMA. It is part of the pure:dyne distribution that I was using until I installed planet-CCRMA, and it worked great with my firewire keyboard/audio device with JACK. Thanks, Jeff From green@redhat.com Mon Jun 4 12:07:03 2007 From: green@redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon Jun 4 11:07:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libpthread for freebob/ffado In-Reply-To: <20070604.110029.16068.311343@webmail16.dca.untd.com> References: <20070604.110029.16068.311343@webmail16.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <466454AD.1040809@redhat.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030005030304020009000003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Sandys wrote: > I tried to configure freebob and it complained about a missing > libpthread. How can I install libpthread? Do you have glibc-devel installed? > Freebob (now called ffado) would be a great addition to planet-CCRMA. freebob is already part of Fedora (Extras). Try "yum install libfreebob". AG --------------030005030304020009000003 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="green.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="green.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Anthony Green n:Green;Anthony org:Red Hat, Inc. email;internet:green@redhat.com tel;cell:(650) 207-7122 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030005030304020009000003-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jun 4 12:08:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jun 4 11:08:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] libpthread for freebob/ffado In-Reply-To: <20070604.110029.16068.311343@webmail16.dca.untd.com> References: <20070604.110029.16068.311343@webmail16.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1180980460.28177.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:59 +0000, Jeff Sandys wrote: > I tried to configure freebob and it complained about a missing > libpthread. How can I install libpthread? > > Freebob (now called ffado) would be a great addition to planet-CCRMA. > It is part of the pure:dyne distribution that I was using until I > installed planet-CCRMA, and it worked great with my firewire > keyboard/audio device with JACK. Freebob is part of Fedora Extras in fc6. And the jack package that is part of Planet CCRMA supports it... -- Fernando From jsdey@optonline.net Tue Jun 5 09:22:02 2007 From: jsdey@optonline.net (John Dey) Date: Tue Jun 5 08:22:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Sound Quality Message-ID: Hi List, My problem is not one directly related with ccrma but I will ask anyway. I hope someone will indulge me. Last night I tried to connect my laptop (Thinkpad t60p) to a high quality stereo. Sound output from the stereo was distorted. Yet attaching headphones to the computer out produce quality sound and sound quality with computer speakers is good. Is there an impedance mismatch? If so, what is the remedy. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. John PS By the way I called IBM service and they indicated that I have a sound max high definition ad19818c codec chip. I haven't been able to find the specific specs for it. From hakan.koseoglu@gmail.com Tue Jun 5 10:18:01 2007 From: hakan.koseoglu@gmail.com (Hakan Koseoglu) Date: Tue Jun 5 09:18:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Troubles with Quattro Message-ID: Hi all, I am having a very bad time with my M-Audio Quattro. I have balanced outs from my Quattro into my Behringer mixer. Then I have balanced outs from my mixer's groups back into Quattro's inputs. The aim was outputting 4 channels into the mixer and mixing it with other sources and taking the input back and routing that to Ardour etc. It's been an utter failure and now I have one channel in the mixer completely blown - the gain no longer works. It appears that when I do something like this, there is a feedback which ends up with a white noise, overloading everything. It appears that channel 1 has about +40dB too much signal, channel 2 has about +30dB. If I use the hardware monitors, everything works fine, if I use the software monitor - complete white noise. I am using balanced ins and outs, into the balanced inputs of the mixer. I am more than unhappy with the Quattro but I want to figure out if there is a way to control the Quattro's output levels with software - it doesn't have an "internal mixer" for alsa to use so how would I normally control it? I'm more than confused so if I'm rambling, please excuse me. :) Cheers, -- Hakan (m1fcj) From m.tarenskeen@zonnet.nl Tue Jun 5 14:47:01 2007 From: m.tarenskeen@zonnet.nl (Martin Tarenskeen) Date: Tue Jun 5 13:47:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Sound Quality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, John Dey wrote: > Hi List, > > My problem is not one directly related with ccrma but I will ask anyway. I > hope someone will indulge me. > Last night I tried to connect my laptop (Thinkpad t60p) to a high quality > stereo. Sound output from the stereo was distorted. Yet attaching > headphones to the computer out produce quality sound and sound quality with > computer speakers is good. Is there an impedance mismatch? If so, what is > the remedy. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > I think you are referring to a hifi stereo set when you say "stereo" ? Connect for example a CD player to your "stereo", using the same inputs that you tried to connect your Thinkpad to. Does it sound OK ? Just to check nothing is wrong with your stereo set. BTW: Do not, I repeat NOT, use "phono" input from a hifi stereo set. You can use CD, AUX, TUNER inputs. Aux would be the usual choice. Try lowering the output volume of your Thinkpad if the sound is distorted. Headphone outputs can have quite high levels sometimes. -- Martin From juanig@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 5 16:02:01 2007 From: juanig@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Juan I Reyes) Date: Tue Jun 5 15:02:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] avrgcc avr-binutils Message-ID: <1181079892.3194.22.camel@strawberry> Hi, While using the standard Pascal Stang's Makefiles for compiling AvrMINI programs on FC-6, I am getting the following error: avr-objcopy: there are no sections to be copied! avr-objcopy: --change-section-lma .eeprom=0x00000000 never used make: *** [flash.eep] Error 1 I am using: avr-gcc-4.1.2-4.fc6 avr-libc-1.2.3-1.fc6.ccrma avrdude-5.3.1-5.fc6 avr-binutils-2.17-3.fc6 For what I have googled, it seems that there is bug in avr-objcopy which triggers an error message when eeprom is not used. However what they claim is that this shouldn't be an error because it is just a compiler warning. I don't get the same error on PlanetCCRMA's FC4. In fact I get no errors with the same code On several AVR web pages I also read that this bug might be fixed in avrgcc, avr-binutils newer versions. Has anyone seen or fixed this issue? Thanks! --* Juan Reyes From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 6 14:35:44 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 6 13:35:44 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: new kernel packages (2.6.21.3 + rt9) & fc7 status note Message-ID: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi, I just released new realtime kernel packages for Fedora Core 6 i386 and x86_64, they are based on 2.6.21.3 and include the latest from Ingo (2.6.21-rt9). A "yum upgrade" should bring them in... Enjoy! -- Fernando PS: I'm working on the fc7 Planet CCRMA repo, expect some packages and an announcement later today or tomorrow. I'm now dealing with recalcitrant tasks like getting Gem to work on pd (gave up for now, always a problem!) and so on and so forth. From hcengar@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 10:33:00 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Thu Jun 7 09:33:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: new kernel packages (2.6.21.3 + rt9) & fc7 status note In-Reply-To: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706070932o169beb0bla23cc8c4abeeac9@mail.gmail.com> HI, I just installed Fedora 7 in my Desktop and I was wondering if there is any of Ingo's rt-kernel packages for F7. I was checking here http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/ and I only find older kernels, is there another repository? Thanks! Hector On 6/6/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > Hi, I just released new realtime kernel packages for Fedora Core 6 i386 > and x86_64, they are based on 2.6.21.3 and include the latest from Ingo > (2.6.21-rt9). A "yum upgrade" should bring them in... > > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > PS: I'm working on the fc7 Planet CCRMA repo, expect some packages and > an announcement later today or tomorrow. I'm now dealing with > recalcitrant tasks like getting Gem to work on pd (gave up for now, > always a problem!) and so on and so forth. > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 7 10:55:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 7 09:55:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: new kernel packages (2.6.21.3 + rt9) & fc7 status note In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706070932o169beb0bla23cc8c4abeeac9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706070932o169beb0bla23cc8c4abeeac9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181235253.8132.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 12:32 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > HI, > > I just installed Fedora 7 in my Desktop and I was wondering if there > is any of Ingo's rt-kernel packages for F7. I was checking here > http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/ and I only find older > kernels, is there another repository? > > > PS: I'm working on the fc7 Planet CCRMA repo, expect some packages and > > an announcement later today or tomorrow. I'm now dealing with > > recalcitrant tasks like getting Gem to work on pd (gave up for now, > > always a problem!) and so on and so forth. Always in a hurry :-) AFAIK Ingo is not building rpms currently. I do have a version or his latest rt kernel for fc7, will be out soon (today). Patience! :-) -- Fernando From hcengar@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 11:35:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Thu Jun 7 10:35:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: new kernel packages (2.6.21.3 + rt9) & fc7 status note In-Reply-To: <1181235253.8132.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706070932o169beb0bla23cc8c4abeeac9@mail.gmail.com> <1181235253.8132.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706071034m7bd8c9bbt4f25712bc411e464@mail.gmail.com> Sorry! he,he,he.... I didn't mean to show impatience, is just that I upgraded the hardware in my desktop (after the previous motherboard started having problems) and had to do a fresh system reinstall so I decided to go F7. Thanks you for work! Hector On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 12:32 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > HI, > > > > I just installed Fedora 7 in my Desktop and I was wondering if there > > is any of Ingo's rt-kernel packages for F7. I was checking here > > http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/ and I only find older > > kernels, is there another repository? > > > > > PS: I'm working on the fc7 Planet CCRMA repo, expect some packages and > > > an announcement later today or tomorrow. I'm now dealing with > > > recalcitrant tasks like getting Gem to work on pd (gave up for now, > > > always a problem!) and so on and so forth. > > Always in a hurry :-) > > AFAIK Ingo is not building rpms currently. I do have a version or his > latest rt kernel for fc7, will be out soon (today). > > Patience! :-) > -- Fernando > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 7 15:55:04 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 7 14:55:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: new kernel packages (2.6.21.3 + rt9) & fc7 status note In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706071034m7bd8c9bbt4f25712bc411e464@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181162031.3261.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706070932o169beb0bla23cc8c4abeeac9@mail.gmail.com> <1181235253.8132.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706071034m7bd8c9bbt4f25712bc411e464@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181253296.8132.20.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 13:34 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Sorry! he,he,he.... I didn't mean to show impatience, is just that I > upgraded the hardware in my desktop (after the previous motherboard > started having problems) and had to do a fresh system reinstall so I > decided to go F7. Thanks you for work! Sure... only for i386 for now. To get started: rpm -Uvh http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm And after that "yum install planetccrma-core" should bring the kernel-rt package and related goodies as usual... Let me know how it goes... A _lot_ more coming up soon. -- Fernando PS: list of current packages here: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/ > On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 12:32 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > HI, > > > > > > I just installed Fedora 7 in my Desktop and I was wondering if there > > > is any of Ingo's rt-kernel packages for F7. I was checking here > > > http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/ and I only find older > > > kernels, is there another repository? > > > > > > > PS: I'm working on the fc7 Planet CCRMA repo, expect some packages and > > > > an announcement later today or tomorrow. I'm now dealing with > > > > recalcitrant tasks like getting Gem to work on pd (gave up for now, > > > > always a problem!) and so on and so forth. > > > > Always in a hurry :-) > > > > AFAIK Ingo is not building rpms currently. I do have a version or his > > latest rt kernel for fc7, will be out soon (today). > > > > Patience! :-) > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > From vivek.ayer@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 17:25:01 2007 From: vivek.ayer@gmail.com (Vivek Ayer) Date: Thu Jun 7 16:25:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7 and Partitioning to prepare for CCRMA releases Message-ID: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have FC5 + PlanetCCRMA and never upgraded to FC6, but am ready to install Fedora 7 on my X41 Tablet. My previous setup was nice, but I think I had too many xruns. I know I won't have CCRMA for F7 for a while, but until then, I was wondering what's the best partitioning scheme Fernando would recommend for CCRMA. I have a 60 GB internal HD and 120 GB WD Passport External HD. Currently, I run ext3, but find it to be very slow. Over time, I think the health of the parition is degrading. I was planning to use the 120GB External as scratch space for Audacity, Ardour etc. ext3 sucks in my opinion even if it's reliable and maintains data integrity. My cpu is 1.66 GHz Pentium M with 1 GB Ram, which I think would be a reasonable DAW. The three major competitors to ext3 are reiserfs, XFS, and JFS. I'm not what to really use, but I hear reiserfs is better for smaller files and XFS and JFS is better for large files. Also, these filesystems give more HD space. I don't know much about JFS and its support isn't the best. Perhaps, my external HD should have a 1 GB FAT32 partition so I can move stuff to and fro Windows stations. I'm really not sure yet and don't want to just go ahead and upgrade to Fedora 7 before knowing which filesystems to use. I know from a previous email that some said ext3 puts out more xruns even though it uses less CPU. Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks in advance! Vivek From daneasley@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 18:34:01 2007 From: daneasley@gmail.com (Dan Easley) Date: Thu Jun 7 17:34:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7 and Partitioning to prepare for CCRMA releases In-Reply-To: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a hard time believing ext3 doesn't perform well enough for audio applications. What are the specs on your internal hard drive? Often laptop drives run at 4500 rpm - to reduce heat and power consumption - a faster hard drive might help you more than a change in filesystems. On 6/7/07, Vivek Ayer wrote: > Hi, > > I have FC5 + PlanetCCRMA and never upgraded to FC6, but am ready to > install Fedora 7 on my X41 Tablet. My previous setup was nice, but I > think I had too many xruns. I know I won't have CCRMA for F7 for a > while, but until then, I was wondering what's the best partitioning > scheme Fernando would recommend for CCRMA. I have a 60 GB internal HD > and 120 GB WD Passport External HD. Currently, I run ext3, but find it > to be very slow. Over time, I think the health of the parition is > degrading. > > I was planning to use the 120GB External as scratch space for > Audacity, Ardour etc. ext3 sucks in my opinion even if it's reliable > and maintains data integrity. My cpu is 1.66 GHz Pentium M with 1 GB > Ram, which I think would be a reasonable DAW. > > The three major competitors to ext3 are reiserfs, XFS, and JFS. I'm > not what to really use, but I hear reiserfs is better for smaller > files and XFS and JFS is better for large files. Also, these > filesystems give more HD space. I don't know much about JFS and its > support isn't the best. Perhaps, my external HD should have a 1 GB > FAT32 partition so I can move stuff to and fro Windows stations. > > I'm really not sure yet and don't want to just go ahead and upgrade to > Fedora 7 before knowing which filesystems to use. I know from a > previous email that some said ext3 puts out more xruns even though it > uses less CPU. Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks in > advance! > > Vivek > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- daneasley@gmail.com dan@towndowner.com dan@burntpossum.com http://towndowner.com http://burntpossum.com From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 7 19:07:32 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 7 18:07:32 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! Message-ID: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making music on fcx where x < 7 :-] Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): ---- rpm -Uvh http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm ---- Then get the realtime kernel and friends: ---- yum install planetccrma-core ---- Then get the applications and nice menus: ---- yum install planetccrma-apps ---- As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site here: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/ Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on f7 (see below for exceptions). I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a week after the new release has never happened before :-) Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me know. Enjoy! -- Fernando From orcanbahri@yahoo.com Thu Jun 7 20:53:05 2007 From: orcanbahri@yahoo.com (Orcan Ogetbil) Date: Thu Jun 7 19:53:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) Message-ID: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give the new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up right in the beginning, giving messages like: ------ Uncompressing Linux.... Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or directory Kernel panic - not syncing... ------ I noted these things down before I switched back to the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I hope someone finds a solution to this. Cheers -Orcan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From vivek.ayer@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 21:08:05 2007 From: vivek.ayer@gmail.com (Vivek Ayer) Date: Thu Jun 7 20:08:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Fedora 7 and Partitioning to prepare for CCRMA releases In-Reply-To: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c3e8b1b0706072007i7fcbd934s6f8279caad92a9ed@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the advice. Well, I don't know what speed my internal runs at. You could be correct about that. The external HD runs at 5400 which is considerably faster than 4500, so do you recommend that I do all my recording on there and keep my apps installed on the internal HD? Granted HD speed is more important than filesystems, still what filesystems would you recommend? You seem to like ext3, but I've heard XFS performs better. For basic audio capturing in Audacity, I think it records a long track chunk by chunk and stores the recording scratch as many small files, which would suggest that it uses reiserfs. Still I'm not sure, but I'm researching about it. Thanks for your help. Vivek From rohan@bowtie.com.au Thu Jun 7 22:51:03 2007 From: rohan@bowtie.com.au (Rohan) Date: Thu Jun 7 21:51:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: Fedora 7 and Partitioning to prepare for CCRMA releases In-Reply-To: <5c3e8b1b0706072007i7fcbd934s6f8279caad92a9ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c3e8b1b0706071624t1bab07d1kf9e13e50d724fd6c@mail.gmail.com> <5c3e8b1b0706072007i7fcbd934s6f8279caad92a9ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070608033833.GP9862@bowtie.com.au> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:07:42PM -0400, Vivek Ayer wrote: > Thanks for the advice. Well, I don't know what speed my internal runs > at. You could be correct about that. The external HD runs at 5400 > which is considerably faster than 4500, so do you recommend that I do > all my recording on there and keep my apps installed on the internal > HD? Granted HD speed is more important than filesystems, still what > filesystems would you recommend? You seem to like ext3, but I've heard > XFS performs better. > > For basic audio capturing in Audacity, I think it records a long track > chunk by chunk and stores the recording scratch as many small files, > which would suggest that it uses reiserfs. Still I'm not sure, but I'm > researching about it. Thanks for your help. Vivek, By 'many small files' the developers are talking about something like a maildir based mail system, with 1000's of 4-10k files. Any audio work is going to have 'large' files (from a filesystem perspective). I'll concur with the others who've suggested that you should focus on the potential hardware bottlenecks before getting bogged down with the small gains you may get tweaking filesystems. (are you SURE your external hard drive is using full speed USB (or firewire), or is there a chance it's running at USB 1.1 speeds ?). I haven't used XFS for Audio work (but have had success with ext3), the truth is for raw write-speed performance the simpler the filesystem the better the results .. simple things like using large blocks (4k) and consider turning OFF journalling and use system level partitioning (not LVM) may give you a far greater performance boost than trying complex fs types like Reiser. Rohan > Vivek > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From drumkid@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 02:01:02 2007 From: drumkid@gmail.com (drumkid@gmail.com) Date: Fri Jun 8 01:01:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The rt kernel worked for me on a ThinkPad R52 last night. -- Henk On 6/8/07, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give the > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up right > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > ------ > Uncompressing Linux.... > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > directory > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > directory > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > directory > Kernel panic - not syncing... > ------ > > I noted these things down before I switched back to > the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I hope > someone finds a solution to this. > > Cheers > -Orcan > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit > the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From renich@woralelandia.com Fri Jun 8 02:03:00 2007 From: renich@woralelandia.com (Renich Bon Ciric) Date: Fri Jun 8 01:03:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181289711.6849.6.camel@renich.penthouse> --=-pRZ29fihnuU2yr/qrsjH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 18:05 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): Coooool! Looking forward for x86_64, my friend! Thanks! > > ---- > rpm -Uvh > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm > ---- > > Then get the realtime kernel and friends: > ---- > yum install planetccrma-core > ---- > > Then get the applications and nice menus: > ---- > yum install planetccrma-apps > ---- > > As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site > here: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/ > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/ > > Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on > f7 (see below for exceptions). > > I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I > don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a > week after the new release has never happened before :-) > > Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM > and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial > install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new > releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and > if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. > > Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me > know. > > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Renich Bon Ciric Woralelandia --=-pRZ29fihnuU2yr/qrsjH Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 18:05 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: 
[WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would
not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making
music on fcx where x < 7 :-]

Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA
built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing
to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line):
Coooool! Looking forward for x86_64, my friend! Thanks! 

----
rpm -Uvh
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm
----

Then get the realtime kernel and friends:
----
  yum install planetccrma-core
----

Then get the applications and nice menus:
----
  yum install planetccrma-apps
----

As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site
here:

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/

Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on
f7 (see below for exceptions).

I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I
don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a
week after the new release has never happened before :-)

Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM
and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial
install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start
properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at
the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new
releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and
if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. 

Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me
know. 

Enjoy!
-- Fernando


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http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma
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Renich Bon Ciric <renich@woralelandia.com>
Woralelandia
--=-pRZ29fihnuU2yr/qrsjH-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 02:10:00 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Fri Jun 8 01:10:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: References: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/8, drumkid@gmail.com : > The rt kernel worked for me on a ThinkPad R52 last night. > > -- Henk > > On 6/8/07, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give the > > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up right > > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > > > ------ > > Uncompressing Linux.... > > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > > directory > > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > > directory > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > > directory > > Kernel panic - not syncing... > > Worked fine for me (Pentium 4 64 3,8Ghz, motherboard Asus P5L-VM 1394), only the first steps of boot (just before annoucing Red hat nash... booting the kernel) is very slow (over 30 seconds). -- Christophe T From hcengar@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:23:02 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Jun 8 07:23:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706080722t69583d2m79e8f74919527656@mail.gmail.com> wow! that was fast! Thank you very much. I'm running the RT-Kernel with no problems. Cheers! Hector On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > ---- > rpm -Uvh > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm > ---- > > Then get the realtime kernel and friends: > ---- > yum install planetccrma-core > ---- > > Then get the applications and nice menus: > ---- > yum install planetccrma-apps > ---- > > As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site > here: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/ > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/ > > Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on > f7 (see below for exceptions). > > I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I > don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a > week after the new release has never happened before :-) > > Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM > and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial > install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new > releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and > if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. > > Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me > know. > > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From wilkinson.bob@comcast.net Fri Jun 8 08:33:01 2007 From: wilkinson.bob@comcast.net (Bob Wilkinson) Date: Fri Jun 8 07:33:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! Message-ID: <060820071432.9080.4669686B000A49B5000023782200758942020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> I can't do it - I just took the time to set up CCRMA on FC6 on the 64 bit kernel, and (subjectively, of course) it is the most stable with the fewest xruns I have dealt with. If all contributors are willing to keep updates available on two versions, I think I will probably keep with "every other" version, rather than staying right on the edge. In case I haven't said this lately, thank you everyone for all the time and contributions to CCRMA. It keeps lowly project studio guys like me in some REALLY cool software. I can't tell you how many people see it and say, "so how much does all this COST?" The look they give me is priceless when I tell them, "the time to download it." -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Hector Centeno" > wow! that was fast! Thank you very much. I'm running the RT-Kernel > with no problems. > > Cheers! > > > Hector > > On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > > > ---- > > rpm -Uvh > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/pla > netccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm > > ---- > > > > Then get the realtime kernel and friends: > > ---- > > yum install planetccrma-core > > ---- > > > > Then get the applications and nice menus: > > ---- > > yum install planetccrma-apps > > ---- > > > > As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site > > here: > > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/rep > odata/ > > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repo > data/ > > > > Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on > > f7 (see below for exceptions). > > > > I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I > > don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a > > week after the new release has never happened before :-) > > > > Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM > > and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial > > install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start > > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > > the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new > > releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and > > if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. > > > > Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me > > know. > > > > Enjoy! > > -- Fernando > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > -- > =============================== > http://www.hcenteno.net > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From christoph.t@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 08:44:02 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Fri Jun 8 07:44:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] [planet-ccrma] where is lmms? Message-ID: Hi everybody, IT's very nice planet ccrma already arrived on fedora 7but there's just a little doubt for me... Where is lmms? I don't remember exactly from wich repo it came from on fc6 (was it planetccrma? It logically shall have proposed it) but sure it was in one? Will it be there soon or may I compile from the sources? Thanks! -- Christophe T From cduneau@yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 09:50:01 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Fri Jun 8 08:50:01 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! Message-ID: <544415.21025.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi there It may be a bit off topic, sorry... Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and choose "install from hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? Anyone has already tried this kind of install? Thanks, cyrill ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 10:50:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 09:50:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <060820071432.9080.4669686B000A49B5000023782200758942020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> References: <060820071432.9080.4669686B000A49B5000023782200758942020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1181321378.12031.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 14:32 +0000, Bob Wilkinson wrote: > I can't do it - I just took the time to set up CCRMA on FC6 on the 64 bit > kernel, and (subjectively, of course) it is the most stable with the fewest > xruns I have dealt with. Glad to hear it is working for you. > If all contributors are willing to keep updates available on two versions, > I think I will probably keep with "every other" version, rather than staying > right on the edge. I'll keep (hopefully) fc6 up to date for a while so I would advise you to stay put and keep making music on what you have! > In case I haven't said this lately, thank you everyone for all the time > and contributions to CCRMA. It keeps lowly project studio guys like me > in some REALLY cool software. I can't tell you how many people see it > and say, "so how much does all this COST?" The look they give me is > priceless when I tell them, "the time to download it." Maybe next time you could have a camera with you and capture the "priceless" moment - then we set up a photo gallery :-) What they most probably don't realize at that point is that it is not "free", you do have to invest time (= money in a way) to learn a completely new system and deal with the inevitable bugs and quirks... Still a win situation, of course. -- Fernando > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Hector Centeno" > > wow! that was fast! Thank you very much. I'm running the RT-Kernel > > with no problems. > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > Hector > > > > On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > > > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > > > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > > > > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > > > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > > > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > > > > > ---- > > > rpm -Uvh > > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/pla > > netccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm > > > ---- > > > > > > Then get the realtime kernel and friends: > > > ---- > > > yum install planetccrma-core > > > ---- > > > > > > Then get the applications and nice menus: > > > ---- > > > yum install planetccrma-apps > > > ---- > > > > > > As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site > > > here: > > > > > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/rep > > odata/ > > > > > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repo > > data/ > > > > > > Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on > > > f7 (see below for exceptions). > > > > > > I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I > > > don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a > > > week after the new release has never happened before :-) > > > > > > Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM > > > and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial > > > install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start > > > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > > > the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new > > > releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and > > > if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. > > > > > > Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me > > > know. > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > -- Fernando > > > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 10:54:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 09:54:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706080722t69583d2m79e8f74919527656@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706080722t69583d2m79e8f74919527656@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181321443.12031.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:22 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > wow! that was fast! Well, everything was pretty much ready to go when you asked :-) > Thank you very much. I'm running the RT-Kernel with no problems. Good to hear that (others were not so lucky, apparently). -- Fernando > On 6/7/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > > > ---- > > rpm -Uvh > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.0-3.fc7.ccrma.noarch.rpm > > ---- > > > > Then get the realtime kernel and friends: > > ---- > > yum install planetccrma-core > > ---- > > > > Then get the applications and nice menus: > > ---- > > yum install planetccrma-apps > > ---- > > > > As usual you can see the available packages at the repoview web site > > here: > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/7/i386/repodata/ > > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/7/i386/repodata/ > > > > Pretty much all packages already available on fc6 are now available on > > f7 (see below for exceptions). > > > > I usually take a long time to rebuild on top of a new Fedora release, I > > don't know what happened this time but having a trial Planet CCRMA a > > week after the new release has never happened before :-) > > > > Things I know don't work: Common Music does not start properly (but CLM > > and CMN are happy), it does start on a mach chroot but not on my trial > > install in an old disk in my old laptop. Supercollider does not start > > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > > the end instead of waiting for commands... Pd, as is usual in new > > releases, lacks the Gem external which is a perpetual pain to build, and > > if experience is any guide it will take a while to get it compiled. > > > > Many other programs may _not_ be working. If you find one please let me > > know. > > > > Enjoy! > > -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 10:57:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 09:57:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181321697.12031.12.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 19:51 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give the > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up right > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > ------ > Uncompressing Linux.... > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > directory > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > directory > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > directory > Kernel panic - not syncing... > ------ > > I noted these things down before I switched back to > the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I hope > someone finds a solution to this. Hmmm... looks like it is not finding the root partition (should not be the case but it would see that it could be a /dev/hdx vs. /dev/sdx issue). What do you have in /etc/fstab? I have to spend some time in double checking the kernel configuration files for the rt kernel against the ones that come with the standard fedora kernel. Maybe there are differences... (the config files I'm using come from pre-fc7 versions of Ingo's source packages). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 10:59:51 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 09:59:51 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: References: <630219.9853.qm@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181321745.12031.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:09 +0200, Christophe T wrote: > 2007/6/8, drumkid@gmail.com : > > The rt kernel worked for me on a ThinkPad R52 last night. > > > > -- Henk > > > > On 6/8/07, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give the > > > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up right > > > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > > > > > ------ > > > Uncompressing Linux.... > > > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > > > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > > > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > > > directory > > > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > > > directory > > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > > > directory > > > Kernel panic - not syncing... > > > > > Worked fine for me (Pentium 4 64 3,8Ghz, motherboard Asus P5L-VM > 1394), only the first steps of boot (just before annoucing Red hat > nash... booting the kernel) is very slow (over 30 seconds). Do you see anything in the output of dmesg or in /var/log/messages that might suggest a reason for the delay? -- Fernando From orcanbahri@yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 11:27:05 2007 From: orcanbahri@yahoo.com (Orcan Ogetbil) Date: Fri Jun 8 10:27:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <1181321697.12031.12.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <564598.22747.qm@web32809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 19:51 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil > wrote: > > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give > the > > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up > right > > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > > > ------ > > Uncompressing Linux.... > > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > > directory > > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > > directory > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > > directory > > Kernel panic - not syncing... > > ------ > > > > I noted these things down before I switched back > to > > the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I hope > > someone finds a solution to this. > > Hmmm... looks like it is not finding the root > partition (should not be > the case but it would see that it could be a > /dev/hdx vs. /dev/sdx > issue). What do you have in /etc/fstab? > > I have to spend some time in double checking the > kernel configuration > files for the rt kernel against the ones that come > with the standard > fedora kernel. Maybe there are differences... (the > config files I'm > using come from pre-fc7 versions of Ingo's source > packages). > > -- Fernando > > > That's what I thought as well (sdx, hdx issue). Here's my fstab: --- LABEL=LOGVOL1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 #/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 #/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /old ext3 defaults 1 2 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /pub ext3 defaults 1 2 sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 LABEL=SWAP-sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 0 #/dev/sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 0 LABEL=SWAP-sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 #/dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 --- The commented out lines are the device names for the LABEL's. I tried commenting out the LABEL's and instead putting the device names in. But I got the same lockup. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu Fri Jun 8 12:00:01 2007 From: kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Knut-H=E5vard_Aksnes?=) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:00:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree Message-ID: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201020903020004060304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfree coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for audacity. --------------000201020903020004060304 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="kna.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kna.vcf" begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Knut-H=C3=A5vard Aksnes n;quoted-printable:Aksnes;Knut-H=C3=A5vard adr;quoted-printable:;;Barbug=C3=A5rdsveien 35;4846 ARENDAL;;;Norway email;internet:kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu tel;cell:+47 928 23 680 note:Skype: KHAksnes x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.tirsdagsklubben.nu/~kna version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000201020903020004060304-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 12:11:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:11:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> Message-ID: <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfree > coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for > audacity. Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages? -- Fernando From kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu Fri Jun 8 12:14:00 2007 From: kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Knut-H=E5vard_Aksnes?=) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:14:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010203000805030204060804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: > =20 >> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfre= e >> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for >> audacity. >> =20 > > Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages? > =20 "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fails when audacity-nonfree is installed. --------------010203000805030204060804 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="kna.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kna.vcf" begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Knut-H=C3=A5vard Aksnes n;quoted-printable:Aksnes;Knut-H=C3=A5vard adr;quoted-printable:;;Barbug=C3=A5rdsveien 35;4846 ARENDAL;;;Norway email;internet:kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu tel;cell:+47 928 23 680 note:Skype: KHAksnes x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.tirsdagsklubben.nu/~kna version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010203000805030204060804-- From kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu Fri Jun 8 12:21:02 2007 From: kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Knut-H=E5vard_Aksnes?=) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:21:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Wishes :-) Message-ID: <46699DDE.3020208@tirsdagsklubben.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020104020600020407010508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wishes for packages :-) 1. kmod-nvidia for the ccrma kernels - Would make switching between different kernels much easier for me. 2. mixx-1.5.1 - A nice DJ player for sound files on hardisk. 3. prokyon3 - An advanced music metadata and playlist manager. --------------020104020600020407010508 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="kna.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kna.vcf" begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Knut-H=C3=A5vard Aksnes n;quoted-printable:Aksnes;Knut-H=C3=A5vard adr;quoted-printable:;;Barbug=C3=A5rdsveien 35;4846 ARENDAL;;;Norway email;internet:kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu tel;cell:+47 928 23 680 note:Skype: KHAksnes x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.tirsdagsklubben.nu/~kna version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020104020600020407010508-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 12:24:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:24:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> Message-ID: <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:13 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > > > >> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfree > >> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for > >> audacity. > >> > > > > Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages? > > > "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fails > when audacity-nonfree is installed. Hmmm, hard to fix in a compatible way... if I drop audacity from that meta package then it does not get installed, if I add the non-free one I make livna a requirement (I don't want to do that). I don't see an easy way out so far... -- Fernando From kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu Fri Jun 8 12:28:03 2007 From: kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Knut-H=E5vard_Aksnes?=) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:28:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <46699F7D.4000906@tirsdagsklubben.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060308000007060301040309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:13 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: > =20 >> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >> =20 >>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonf= ree >>>> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for >>>> audacity. >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages= ? >>> =20 >>> =20 >> "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fails >> when audacity-nonfree is installed. >> =20 > > Hmmm, hard to fix in a compatible way... if I drop audacity from that > meta package then it does not get installed, if I add the non-free one = I > make livna a requirement (I don't want to do that). I don't see an easy= > way out so far... > > -- Fernando > > =20 Isn't it possible using triggers for these packages in the rpm file instead of static dependencies? --------------060308000007060301040309 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="kna.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kna.vcf" begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Knut-H=C3=A5vard Aksnes n;quoted-printable:Aksnes;Knut-H=C3=A5vard adr;quoted-printable:;;Barbug=C3=A5rdsveien 35;4846 ARENDAL;;;Norway email;internet:kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu tel;cell:+47 928 23 680 note:Skype: KHAksnes x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.tirsdagsklubben.nu/~kna version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060308000007060301040309-- From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 12:36:04 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:36:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <46699F7D.4000906@tirsdagsklubben.nu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699F7D.4000906@tirsdagsklubben.nu> Message-ID: <1181327718.12031.22.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:27 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:13 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > > > >> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfree > >>>> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for > >>>> audacity. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages? > >>> > >>> > >> "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fails > >> when audacity-nonfree is installed. > >> > > > > Hmmm, hard to fix in a compatible way... if I drop audacity from that > > meta package then it does not get installed, if I add the non-free one I > > make livna a requirement (I don't want to do that). I don't see an easy > > way out so far... > > > Isn't it possible using triggers for these packages in the rpm file > instead of static dependencies? Never tried using them. Do you have an example I could use? (btw, thanks for the report!) -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 12:46:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:46:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <1181327718.12031.22.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699F7D.4000906@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181327718.12031.22.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181328309.12031.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 11:35 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:27 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:13 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > > >> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > >>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-Håvard Aksnes wrote: > > >>>> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-nonfree > > >>>> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement for > > >>>> audacity. > > >>>> > > >>> Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messages? > > >>> > > >> "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fails > > >> when audacity-nonfree is installed. > > > > > > Hmmm, hard to fix in a compatible way... if I drop audacity from that > > > meta package then it does not get installed, if I add the non-free one I > > > make livna a requirement (I don't want to do that). I don't see an easy > > > way out so far... > > > > > Isn't it possible using triggers for these packages in the rpm file > > instead of static dependencies? > > Never tried using them. Do you have an example I could use? > (btw, thanks for the report!) It does not look likely I can use them, what I would need is something like "if packagex is installed then don't install packagey". Triggers apparently "trigger" in one package when there are rpm changes in another which is not what happens when I install planetccrma-apps. The only thing I did come up with so far is having a "planetccrma-apps-livna" package that does the right thing if you have installed something incompatible with the original apps. -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 12:50:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:50:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <1181289711.6849.6.camel@renich.penthouse> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1181289711.6849.6.camel@renich.penthouse> Message-ID: <1181328575.12031.32.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 03:01 -0500, Renich Bon Ciric wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 18:05 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > Coooool! Looking forward for x86_64, my friend! Thanks! Well, x86_64 currently presents a problem. I can't test it. The kernel components are out already and I'm building the apps as we speak. I can test the _install_ part by using my build mach chroots but I don't have a spare machine (or the time) to test them in real hardware. If you still want to try them..... -- Fernando From kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu Fri Jun 8 12:58:00 2007 From: kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Knut-H=E5vard_Aksnes?=) Date: Fri Jun 8 11:58:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] planetccrma-apps and and audacity-nonfree In-Reply-To: <1181328309.12031.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <466998FE.1010406@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326204.12031.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699C5E.9090707@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181326891.12031.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <46699F7D.4000906@tirsdagsklubben.nu> <1181327718.12031.22.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1181328309.12031.27.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4669A6B0.5060506@tirsdagsklubben.nu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030803030709010707050509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 11:35 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > =20 >> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:27 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: >> =20 >>> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >>> =20 >>>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 20:13 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: >>>> =20 >>>>> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:59 +0200, Knut-H=E5vard Aksnes wrote: >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> Is it possible to make the plnetccrma-apps package and audacity-n= onfree >>>>>>> coexist. Audacity-nonfree is an "upward compatible" replacement f= or >>>>>>> audacity. >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> Could you give me more details on what is not working? Error messa= ges? >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>> "yum install planetccrma-apps" tries to install audacity which fail= s >>>>> when audacity-nonfree is installed. >>>>> =20 >>>> Hmmm, hard to fix in a compatible way... if I drop audacity from tha= t >>>> meta package then it does not get installed, if I add the non-free o= ne I >>>> make livna a requirement (I don't want to do that). I don't see an e= asy >>>> way out so far... >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> Isn't it possible using triggers for these packages in the rpm file >>> instead of static dependencies? >>> =20 >> Never tried using them. Do you have an example I could use? >> (btw, thanks for the report!) >> =20 > > It does not look likely I can use them, what I would need is something > like "if packagex is installed then don't install packagey". Triggers > apparently "trigger" in one package when there are rpm changes in > another which is not what happens when I install planetccrma-apps.=20 > > The only thing I did come up with so far is having a > "planetccrma-apps-livna" package that does the right thing if you have > installed something incompatible with the original apps.=20 > > -- Fernando > > =20 What about some kind of extra wrapper packages one for each of the audacity packages, the only thing the wrapper packages does is to add a common virtual package capability and to require the matching audacity version. planetccrma-apps requires this new common capability. --------------030803030709010707050509 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="kna.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kna.vcf" begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Knut-H=C3=A5vard Aksnes n;quoted-printable:Aksnes;Knut-H=C3=A5vard adr;quoted-printable:;;Barbug=C3=A5rdsveien 35;4846 ARENDAL;;;Norway email;internet:kna@tirsdagsklubben.nu tel;cell:+47 928 23 680 note:Skype: KHAksnes x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.tirsdagsklubben.nu/~kna version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030803030709010707050509-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:04:02 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Fri Jun 8 12:04:02 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <544415.21025.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <544415.21025.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi 2007/6/8, Cyrill : > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > > Thanks, > > cyrill > Yes I have, only because of what seemed to bug in fedora 7 test4 (told me it couldn't install from cd, I don't remember exactly the reason). I did it several times and I have never had this kind of problem. -- Christophe T From wilkinson.bob@comcast.net Fri Jun 8 13:13:01 2007 From: wilkinson.bob@comcast.net (Bob Wilkinson) Date: Fri Jun 8 12:13:01 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! Message-ID: <060820071912.4354.4669AA1700060F36000011022200735446020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> If I understand correctly, the iso image must be uncompressed, or mounted. What I did for my last "network" install was to download the iso image to another computer running linux, and then mounted the image onto a directory I came up with (/mnt/fc6iso) - the mount command was "mount -t=iso9660 -o loop /{home/name}/{isoimagename}.iso /mnt/fc6iso". Then, using NFS, I shared the directory on the network. Finally, I burned a CD with the boot.iso image, and did a network install, using {ip_address}/mnt/fc6iso Otherwise, I believe that you would need to dd the image to a directory location, then find that directory location for the install (locally). -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Cyrill > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've > downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and > choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, > /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > > Thanks, > > cyrill > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the > Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:16:06 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Fri Jun 8 12:16:06 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7 nvidia, madwifi; ntfs Message-ID: ------=_Part_17408_32232068.1181330128195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, Nvidia and madwifi drivers from livna rebuild against fc7 ccrma-rt. I haven't tested madwifi yet, but the build is clean. Nvidia drivers seem to work for most x11 needs, but opengl apps like celestia are wonky with both X11/nv and nvidia proprietary on my system, and crash the x server (immediately with proprietary, after time with x11), with the rt kernel (livna nvidia w/ standard fedora works fine) -- I'll be testing on other systems with nvidia to see if it's just the one card... perhaps there's a patch that can be applied. Livna kmod-ntfs rebuilds with a patch (I copied it into a previous post), but as another ccrma user posted recently, it looks like ntfs-3g is taking over? It seems to come standard with fc7. I don't see kmod-fglrx yet -- might exist on a different repo or under a different name. Also, what is going on with yum!? It's SO much faster than in fc5 and fc6, at least over here. Matt ------=_Part_17408_32232068.1181330128195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello,

Nvidia and madwifi drivers from livna rebuild against fc7 ccrma-rt.  I haven't tested madwifi yet, but the build is clean. 

Nvidia drivers seem to work for most x11 needs, but opengl apps like celestia are wonky with both X11/nv and nvidia proprietary on my system, and crash the x server (immediately with proprietary, after time with x11), with the rt kernel (livna nvidia w/ standard fedora works fine) -- I'll be testing on other systems with nvidia to see if it's just the one card... perhaps there's a patch that can be applied.

Livna kmod-ntfs rebuilds with a patch (I copied it into a previous post), but as another ccrma user posted recently, it looks like ntfs-3g is taking over?  It seems to come standard with fc7.  I don't see kmod-fglrx yet -- might exist on a different repo or under a different name.


Also, what is going on with yum!?  It's SO much faster than in fc5 and fc6, at least over here.


Matt


------=_Part_17408_32232068.1181330128195-- From j_hearon@hotmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:19:00 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Fri Jun 8 12:19:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] OSC libs Message-ID: New to fedora6 and planetccrma. Working thru various apps, I noticed the Pd does not seem to have the OSC libs? Ex. sendOSC obj is dotted line. What is the solution for that? Compile your own? Can't seem to find the linux srcs. Sourceforge tarball is for darwin mac. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 13:48:01 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Fri Jun 8 12:48:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: fc7 nvidia, madwifi; ntfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update -- After booting through the older kernels, it looks like nvidia/gl works with rt after all (it seems some auto-config lines didn't work on previous xserver-restarts or reboots into the rt kernel). Here are the relevant xorg.conf sections that worked for me: ---------------------------------------------------- # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True" EndSection --------------------------------------------------------- On 6/8/07, Matt Barber wrote: > Hello, > > Nvidia and madwifi drivers from livna rebuild against fc7 ccrma-rt. I haven't tested madwifi yet, but the build is clean. > > Nvidia drivers seem to work for most x11 needs, but opengl apps like celestia are wonky with both X11/nv and nvidia proprietary on my system, and crash the x server (immediately with proprietary, after time with x11), with the rt kernel (livna nvidia w/ standard fedora works fine) -- I'll be testing on other systems with nvidia to see if it's just the one card... perhaps there's a patch that can be applied. > > Livna kmod-ntfs rebuilds with a patch (I copied it into a previous post), but as another ccrma user posted recently, it looks like ntfs-3g is taking over? It seems to come standard with fc7. I don't see kmod-fglrx yet -- might exist on a different repo or under a different name. > > > Also, what is going on with yum!? It's SO much faster than in fc5 and fc6, at least over here. > > > Matt > > > From vivek.ayer@gmail.com Fri Jun 8 14:13:02 2007 From: vivek.ayer@gmail.com (Vivek Ayer) Date: Fri Jun 8 13:13:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Native Instruments Komplete 3 & Reason under Fedora 7 Message-ID: <5c3e8b1b0706081312k795e5e8mfb187ef4d664610@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, I was thinking after I upgrade to Fedora 7, I really like too other pieces of software mainly because of VST. In addition to the CCRMA packages, which are great, I would also like to use the Komplete 3 package and Reason 3.0 packages which I have lying around. What's the best solution for this? Should I run them in Wine? I had installed under wine before, but ran into bugs as wine can be unstable from time to time. What'll give me the lowest latency/best performance? While wine has bugs, it does run the apps natively, whereas XP installed under VirtualBox/QEMU will produce no bugs, but run slow. I'm split over this decision. Then there's Xen, which is supposed to run apps natively and Fedora 7 is Xen-aware, but as far as the audio layer is concerned, I'm not sure what the best API will be. I know DSSI and LADSPA handle VST nicely, but just to have an environment where VST is bug-free would be nice. Thanks. Vivek From juanig@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 16:57:01 2007 From: juanig@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Juan I Reyes) Date: Fri Jun 8 15:57:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] OSC libs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181343359.16024.2.camel@strawberry> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 19:15 +0000, James Hearon wrote: > New to fedora6 and planetccrma. Working thru various apps, I noticed the Pd > does not seem to have the OSC libs? Ex. sendOSC obj is dotted line. What > is the solution for that? Compile your own? Can't seem to find the linux > srcs. Sourceforge tarball is for darwin mac. > Thanks. Hi James, What about pd-oscx-0.39.2-3.cvs.06.11.20.fc6.ccrma from: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/6/i386/repodata/repoview/pd-oscx-0-0.39.2-2.cvs.06.11.20.fc6.ccrma.html Good luck From cduneau@yahoo.com Fri Jun 8 17:40:02 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Fri Jun 8 16:40:02 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <060820071912.4354.4669AA1700060F36000011022200735446020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> Message-ID: <210674.43662.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi thanks for answering --- Bob Wilkinson wrote: > If I understand correctly, the iso image must be uncompressed, or mounted. from what i've read, it should be the .iso file by istelf, not mounted. But anyway I had tried to mount it, the way you describe, and it didn't do any good... thanx anyway cyrill > > What I did for my last "network" install was to download the iso image to another computer > running linux, and then mounted the image onto a directory I came up with (/mnt/fc6iso) - the > mount command was "mount -t=iso9660 -o loop /{home/name}/{isoimagename}.iso /mnt/fc6iso". > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 19:00:04 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 18:00:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] [planet-ccrma] where is lmms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181350782.12031.62.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 16:43 +0200, Christophe T wrote: > Hi everybody, > > IT's very nice planet ccrma already arrived on fedora 7but there's > just a little doubt for me... > Where is lmms? I don't remember exactly from wich repo it came from on > fc6 (was it planetccrma? It logically shall have proposed it) but sure > it was in one? Nope, I did not package it before. > Will it be there soon or may I compile from the sources? Well, I tried a build and it seems to produce something which starts (no more testing than that). Version available now is 0.2.1... -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 19:58:07 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 18:58:07 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for x86_64 (call for testers) Message-ID: <1181353944.12031.70.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi all... more packages, this time on x86_64. I know they should/will install but I can't test. If you feel brave, have some time to burn, patience and a suitable machine with Fedora 7 x86_64 go ahead and try them out. Same instructions as in the email I sent about Planet CCRMA for Fedora 7 i386... just sed 's/i386/x86_64/g' and go ahead :-) Let me know how it goes... -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 8 20:06:00 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 8 19:06:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <564598.22747.qm@web32809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <564598.22747.qm@web32809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181354712.12031.75.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:26 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 19:51 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil > > wrote: > > > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to give > > the > > > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung up > > right > > > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > > > > > ------ > > > Uncompressing Linux.... > > > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > > > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > > > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > > > directory > > > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file or > > > directory > > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file or > > > directory > > > Kernel panic - not syncing... > > > ------ > > > > > > I noted these things down before I switched back > > to > > > the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I hope > > > someone finds a solution to this. > > > > Hmmm... looks like it is not finding the root > > partition (should not be > > the case but it would see that it could be a > > /dev/hdx vs. /dev/sdx > > issue). What do you have in /etc/fstab? > > > > I have to spend some time in double checking the > > kernel configuration > > files for the rt kernel against the ones that come > > with the standard > > fedora kernel. Maybe there are differences... (the > > config files I'm > > using come from pre-fc7 versions of Ingo's source > > packages). > > > That's what I thought as well (sdx, hdx issue). > > Here's my fstab: > --- > LABEL=LOGVOL1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > #/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 > #/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 > devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /old ext3 defaults 1 2 > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /pub ext3 defaults 1 2 > sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 > LABEL=SWAP-sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 0 > #/dev/sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 0 > LABEL=SWAP-sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 > #/dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 > --- > > > The commented out lines are the device names for the > LABEL's. I tried commenting out the LABEL's and > instead putting the device names in. > > But I got the same lockup. It looks like the problem is related to the use of LVM... but that should not change between kernels! -- Fernando From renich@woralelandia.com Fri Jun 8 23:31:02 2007 From: renich@woralelandia.com (Renich Bon Ciric) Date: Fri Jun 8 22:31:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for x86_64 (call for testers) In-Reply-To: <1181353944.12031.70.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181353944.12031.70.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181367010.3694.0.camel@renich.penthouse> --=-1mPf7ilpWDHjlf1p9vK2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:52 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > Hi all... more packages, this time on x86_64. > > I know they should/will install but I can't test. If you feel brave, > have some time to burn, patience and a suitable machine with Fedora 7 > x86_64 go ahead and try them out. > > Same instructions as in the email I sent about Planet CCRMA for Fedora 7 > i386... just sed 's/i386/x86_64/g' and go ahead :-) Count me in!... I'll start tomorrow! ;=) > > Let me know how it goes... > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Renich Bon Ciric Woralelandia --=-1mPf7ilpWDHjlf1p9vK2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:52 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: 
Hi all... more packages, this time on x86_64. 

I know they should/will install but I can't test. If you feel brave,
have some time to burn, patience and a suitable machine with Fedora 7
x86_64 go ahead and try them out. 

Same instructions as in the email I sent about Planet CCRMA for Fedora 7
i386... just sed 's/i386/x86_64/g' and go ahead :-)
Count me in!... I'll start tomorrow! ;=) 

Let me know how it goes...
-- Fernando


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--=-1mPf7ilpWDHjlf1p9vK2-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Sat Jun 9 01:57:01 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Sat Jun 9 00:57:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] [planet-ccrma] where is lmms? In-Reply-To: <1181350782.12031.62.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181350782.12031.62.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: 2007/6/9, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano : > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 16:43 +0200, Christophe T wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > IT's very nice planet ccrma already arrived on fedora 7but there's > > just a little doubt for me... > > Where is lmms? I don't remember exactly from wich repo it came from on > > fc6 (was it planetccrma? It logically shall have proposed it) but sure > > it was in one? > > Nope, I did not package it before. > > > Will it be there soon or may I compile from the sources? > > Well, I tried a build and it seems to produce something which starts (no > more testing than that). Version available now is 0.2.1... > > -- Fernando Waoo... Thank you!!! How fast! I've just installed it and indeed it starts and moreover produces sound... I'll use it more and tell. Thank you once again!! :-) -- Christophe T From christoph.t@gmail.com Sat Jun 9 02:08:01 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Sat Jun 9 01:08:01 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <210674.43662.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <060820071912.4354.4669AA1700060F36000011022200735446020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> <210674.43662.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/9, Cyrill : > Hi > thanks for answering > > --- Bob Wilkinson wrote: > > > If I understand correctly, the iso image must be uncompressed, or mounted. > > from what i've read, it should be the .iso file by istelf, not mounted. But anyway I had tried to > mount it, the way you describe, and it didn't do any good... > > thanx anyway > > cyrill > > > > > What I did for my last "network" install was to download the iso image to another computer > > running linux, and then mounted the image onto a directory I came up with (/mnt/fc6iso) - the > > mount command was "mount -t=iso9660 -o loop /{home/name}/{isoimagename}.iso /mnt/fc6iso". > > > Yes that is. You only have to indicate the path of the iso file directly, no need to mount it. And in fact if anaconda doesn't find a usable file you immediately get an error message (saying something like "cannot find the indicated file", or "cannot install from this file"). It seems your problem is different from that. Maybe a corrupt iso... You may have checked this yet, sorry not to be able to help you more. Regards -- Christophe T From hpsilva@servidor.unam.mx Sat Jun 9 20:10:02 2007 From: hpsilva@servidor.unam.mx (Pablo Silva) Date: Sat Jun 9 19:10:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Off-topic: (slightly) fedora 7 weirdness on MacBook C2D, please help In-Reply-To: <20070609190007.15642.50301.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20070609190007.15642.50301.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <3D59340F-A837-49F9-BA69-9A120F47E2E5@servidor.unam.mx> Hi! After a rather heroic -and perhaps foolish- struggle, I managed to get a newer MacBook C2D triple-booting (MacOS, Fedora7 and XP). As has been pointed in the appropriate forums, the main problem to get this to happen is the partitioning scheme... My idea is to be able to run the three operating systems natively, as to be able among other things to run PlanetCCRMA. I wanted to ask the readers of this list for help, as I have run into rather bizarre but systematic behaviour from Fedora 7 or GRUB (or maybe rEFIt, which controls booting) , which seems to rewrite the MBR (not the EFI partitioning scheme) of the startup disk EVERY TIME Fedora is run, flagging the linux partition as bootable instead of leaving the partitioning alone as would seem to me to be the natural option... and it's driving me nuts! Before that, I found out, to my chagrin, that the Anaconda installer, both in Fedora core 6 and now 7, will rewrite the MBR even if asked to install to a previously ext3-formated partition, AND even if told specifically, to leave the partitions alone and not format... I wonder whether any of the very experienced Linux users on this list would know how to fix this, as it's certainly not a very good idea to be perpetually rewriting an MBR! Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Pablo Silva Laboratorio de Informática Musical y Música Electroacústica Escuela Nacional de Música, UNAM From orcanbahri@yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 00:31:01 2007 From: orcanbahri@yahoo.com (Orcan Ogetbil) Date: Sat Jun 9 23:31:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <1181354712.12031.75.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <683961.53011.qm@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:26 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil > wrote: > > --- Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 19:51 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil > > > wrote: > > > > Thanks for the Fedora 7 packages. I wanted to > give > > > the > > > > new kernel-rt a try. It didn't boot. It hung > up > > > right > > > > in the beginning, giving messages like: > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Uncompressing Linux.... > > > > Red Hat mash version 6.0.9 startinh > > > > mount: could not find filesystem "/dev/root" > > > > setuproot: moving /dev failed: no such file or > > > > directory > > > > setuproot: error mounting /proc: no such file > or > > > > directory > > > > setuproot: error mounting /sys: no such file > or > > > > directory > > > > Kernel panic - not syncing... > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > I noted these things down before I switched > back > > > to > > > > the old kernel. They are almost accurate. I > hope > > > > someone finds a solution to this. > > > > > > Hmmm... looks like it is not finding the root > > > partition (should not be > > > the case but it would see that it could be a > > > /dev/hdx vs. /dev/sdx > > > issue). What do you have in /etc/fstab? > > > > > > I have to spend some time in double checking the > > > kernel configuration > > > files for the rt kernel against the ones that > come > > > with the standard > > > fedora kernel. Maybe there are differences... > (the > > > config files I'm > > > using come from pre-fc7 versions of Ingo's > source > > > packages). > > > > > That's what I thought as well (sdx, hdx issue). > > > > Here's my fstab: > > --- > > LABEL=LOGVOL1 / ext3 defaults 1 > 1 > > #/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 / ext3 defaults 1 > 1 > > LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 > 2 > > #/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 > 2 > > devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 > 0 > > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 > 0 > > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /old ext3 defaults 1 > 2 > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 > 0 > > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /pub ext3 defaults 1 > 2 > > sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 > 0 > > LABEL=SWAP-sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 > 0 > > #/dev/sdb1 swap swap defaults 0 > 0 > > LABEL=SWAP-sda2 swap swap defaults 0 > 0 > > #/dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 > 0 > > --- > > > > > > The commented out lines are the device names for > the > > LABEL's. I tried commenting out the LABEL's and > > instead putting the device names in. > > > > But I got the same lockup. > > It looks like the problem is related to the use of > LVM... but that > should not change between kernels! > > -- Fernando > > > I worked on the subject today all day long, without success. Here is what I did: - I tried to recompile the kernel-rt with all the ata and sata patches that come with the fedora 7 kernel source rpm. There are 9 patches I believe. The compilation went fine (I had to modify the kernel-rt config file to make everything related to the patches the same as the fedora 7 kernel config file.). This didn't work. Still the same error message at the boot. - I tried to edit the initrd script. In the init file there are references to the root partition. See: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2191333 I changed the init file accordingly so that all the root partition references point to the correct logical volume. This didn't work either. - Having a look at the original Fedora 7 init script, I saw that there were additional modules being loaded before mounting the root partition. These modules are: mbcache.ko, raid0.ko, xor.ko, raid456.ko and ata_generic.ko . I copied these files from my kernel-rt compilation into the initrd, except mbcache.ko which wasn't built as a module in the kernel-rt I compiled. I changed the kernel-rt init script to load these modules as in the original Fedora 7 kernel. Loading the initrd, which I made, didn't help either. I couldn't find a way to compile mbcache as a module. There is no entry in the make menuconfig menu for it. Maybe this is the problem??? -I found this page: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0705.3/1039.html This guy suffered from the same problem and he says "Whatever broke LVM for this machine in between 2.6.18 and 2.6.21.1 has now been fixed.". He tried 2.6.22-rc2 . I tried to compile the latest kernel I found in the kernel.org (2.6.22-rc4) with the realtime patch for kernel-rt-2.6.21. I couldn't apply the patch. It gave errors for this kernel. My c knowledge is too inferior to hack the kernel. This is all I have done. Nothing worked, all the above tries give the same error output and I am out of ideas for today. Hope these will be an inspiration for someone... Orcan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From ascensiontech@gmail.com Sun Jun 10 10:40:03 2007 From: ascensiontech@gmail.com (Peter Hartmann) Date: Sun Jun 10 09:40:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? Message-ID: <9bd317560706100939v29d3b9e8wf9174c74e8e3a553@mail.gmail.com> Do you guys have an option for jack in your winecfg options? like this (about the middle of the page): http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/ I have: wine-core-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-twain-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-cms-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-capi-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-ldap-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-jack-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-devel-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-nas-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-tools-0.9.36-2.fc6 wine-esd-0.9.36-2.fc6 Thanks, Peter From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sun Jun 10 12:23:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sun Jun 10 11:23:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? In-Reply-To: <9bd317560706100939v29d3b9e8wf9174c74e8e3a553@mail.gmail.com> References: <9bd317560706100939v29d3b9e8wf9174c74e8e3a553@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181499768.4289.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 12:39 -0400, Peter Hartmann wrote: > Do you guys have an option for jack in your winecfg options? like > this (about the middle of the page): > > http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/ > > I have: > > wine-core-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-twain-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-cms-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-capi-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-ldap-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-jack-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-devel-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-nas-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-tools-0.9.36-2.fc6 > wine-esd-0.9.36-2.fc6 Wine comes from Fedora Extras for fc6 (there's no "ccrma" in the release tag) so I don't have control over its configuration. You could file a bug report in Fedora's bugzilla. Jack is now part of Extras so it should be possible for them to configure wine with jack support. -- Fernando From cduneau@yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 13:07:02 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Sun Jun 10 12:07:02 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <060820071912.4354.4669AA1700060F36000011022200735446020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> Message-ID: <517299.53539.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1199825284-1181501486=:53539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, and thanks for the answers. I think my mistake was to assume that the installation would work from another logical partition, while it should be done from another primary partition... Not sure, but it seems very likely to me... Anyway, I have installed fc7 from a dvd-rw, and am right now "yuming" the planet-ccrma packages... thanks again, cyrill Bob Wilkinson wrote: If I understand correctly, the iso image must be uncompressed, or mounted. What I did for my last "network" install was to download the iso image to another computer running linux, and then mounted the image onto a directory I came up with (/mnt/fc6iso) - the mount command was "mount -t=iso9660 -o loop /{home/name}/{isoimagename}.iso /mnt/fc6iso". Then, using NFS, I shared the directory on the network. Finally, I burned a CD with the boot.iso image, and did a network install, using {ip_address}/mnt/fc6iso Otherwise, I believe that you would need to dd the image to a directory location, then find that directory location for the install (locally). -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Cyrill > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've > downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and > choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, > /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > > Thanks, > > cyrill > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the > Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-1199825284-1181501486=:53539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi,
and thanks for the answers.
I think my mistake was to assume that the installation would work from another logical partition, while it should be done from another primary partition... Not sure, but it seems very likely to me...

Anyway, I have installed fc7 from a dvd-rw, and am right now "yuming" the planet-ccrma packages...

thanks again,

cyrill

Bob Wilkinson <wilkinson.bob@comcast.net> wrote:
If I understand correctly, the iso image must be uncompressed, or mounted.

What I did for my last "network" install was to download the iso image to another computer running linux, and then mounted the image onto a directory I came up with (/mnt/fc6iso) - the mount command was "mount -t=iso9660 -o loop /{home/name}/{isoimagename}.iso /mnt/fc6iso".

Then, using NFS, I shared the directory on the network.

Finally, I burned a CD with the boot.iso image, and did a network install, using {ip_address}/mnt/fc6iso

Otherwise, I believe that you would need to dd the image to a directory location, then find that directory location for the install (locally).




-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Cyrill
> Hi there
> It may be a bit off topic, sorry...
>
> Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've
> downloaded the
> .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and
> choose "install from
> hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here,
> /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but
> at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"?
> Anyone has already tried this kind of install?
>
> Thanks,
>
> cyrill
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> ____
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Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-1199825284-1181501486=:53539-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:53:03 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Sun Jun 10 12:53:03 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <517299.53539.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <060820071912.4354.4669AA1700060F36000011022200735446020A0409D202019C020705040799@comcast.net> <517299.53539.qm@web56515.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/10, Cyrill : > Hi, > and thanks for the answers. > I think my mistake was to assume that the installation would work from > another logical partition, while it should be done from another primary > partition... Not sure, but it seems very likely to me... > > Anyway, I have installed fc7 from a dvd-rw, and am right now "yuming" the > planet-ccrma packages... > > thanks again, > > cyrill Well, today I've installed the fedora7-x86-64 from a logical partition sda6 (logical, and not lvm)... Toi make it easier I have copied the iso file in the root of the partition. I have just had to choose the right partition (/dev/sda6) and install ran from it (much faster than from a cd or dvd moreover). I've used a method I ve recently heard about, wich consists in copying the /isolinux folder from the iso into /boot folder (no need to burn a media, you can use mount for it) and then manually edit a new title in grub.conf: title Fedora Core 7 install #for example root (hd0,0) #adapt it to your own config kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd /isolinux/initrd.img Reboot on the new title. Then choose install from hard drive, indicate the partition and the path of the iso in that partition (without a "/"). And that's it! The only condition is to have the iso in a partition you won't use during install. Sorry if my explanation is a little off topic related to your problem but I'm so enthousiastic with that new method... I'm quite surprised it didn't work in your case... Did you actually try to install with your iso file on a logical partition? Best regards -- Christophe T From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:01:01 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Sun Jun 10 13:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? Message-ID: However, if you ARE using jack from ccrma it is possible to successfully rebuild wine against the ccrma libjack (if you don't rebuild, jack output won't be an option when you run apps under wine, provided you're using ccrma's jack). Fernando, what is the status of ccrma vs. fedora extras jack support long term? As far as I can tell FC7 jack is still ccrma. In the past I have had trouble building some apps against fedora extras jack and jack-devel because they don't offer the static archives some apps need (in which case, you have to rebuild jack as well). I suppose I should put in a request to whomever maintains extras. Matt > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? > From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > To: Peter Hartmann > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:22:48 -0700 > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 12:39 -0400, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > Do you guys have an option for jack in your winecfg options? like > > this (about the middle of the page): > > > > http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/ > > > > I have: > > > > wine-core-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-twain-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-cms-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-capi-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-ldap-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-jack-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-devel-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-nas-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-tools-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > wine-esd-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > Wine comes from Fedora Extras for fc6 (there's no "ccrma" in the release > tag) so I don't have control over its configuration. You could file a > bug report in Fedora's bugzilla. Jack is now part of Extras so it should > be possible for them to configure wine with jack support. > > -- Fernando > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > End of PlanetCCRMA Digest > From cduneau@yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 14:31:01 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Sun Jun 10 13:31:01 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <912325.32407.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1211911367-1181506091=:32407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I haven't tried the same things. What i've done was to burn on a cd-r the rescuecd image, then boot from it, and choose installation from hard drive, where i specified the location of the .iso file of the fedora image i had downloaded. but each time i tried this i got the same error message, so i gave up and installed from dvd... but i am very curious to know why it didn't work. i thought it was because it was on a logical partition (ie, part of the extended partition containing my system files), but you're telling me that i'm wrong... is the logical partition you installed from part of the same extended partition that contains your os? cyrill Christophe T wrote: 2007/6/10, Cyrill : > Hi, > and thanks for the answers. > I think my mistake was to assume that the installation would work from > another logical partition, while it should be done from another primary > partition... Not sure, but it seems very likely to me... > > Anyway, I have installed fc7 from a dvd-rw, and am right now "yuming" the > planet-ccrma packages... > > thanks again, > > cyrill Well, today I've installed the fedora7-x86-64 from a logical partition sda6 (logical, and not lvm)... Toi make it easier I have copied the iso file in the root of the partition. I have just had to choose the right partition (/dev/sda6) and install ran from it (much faster than from a cd or dvd moreover). I've used a method I ve recently heard about, wich consists in copying the /isolinux folder from the iso into /boot folder (no need to burn a media, you can use mount for it) and then manually edit a new title in grub.conf: title Fedora Core 7 install #for example root (hd0,0) #adapt it to your own config kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz initrd /isolinux/initrd.img Reboot on the new title. Then choose install from hard drive, indicate the partition and the path of the iso in that partition (without a "/"). And that's it! The only condition is to have the iso in a partition you won't use during install. Sorry if my explanation is a little off topic related to your problem but I'm so enthousiastic with that new method... I'm quite surprised it didn't work in your case... Did you actually try to install with your iso file on a logical partition? Best regards -- Christophe T _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. --0-1211911367-1181506091=:32407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi,
I haven't tried the same things. What i've done was to burn on a cd-r the rescuecd image, then boot from it, and choose installation from hard drive, where i specified the location of the .iso file of the fedora image i had downloaded. but each time i tried this i got the same error message, so i gave up and installed from dvd...
but i am very curious to know why it didn't work. i thought it was because it was on a logical partition (ie, part of the extended partition containing my system files), but you're telling me that i'm wrong... is the logical partition you installed from part of the same extended partition that contains your os?

cyrill


Christophe T <christoph.t@gmail.com> wrote:
2007/6/10, Cyrill :
> Hi,
> and thanks for the answers.
> I think my mistake was to assume that the installation would work from
> another logical partition, while it should be done from another primary
> partition... Not sure, but it seems very likely to me...
>
> Anyway, I have installed fc7 from a dvd-rw, and am right now "yuming" the
> planet-ccrma packages...
>
> thanks again,
>
> cyrill

Well, today I've installed the fedora7-x86-64 from a logical partition
sda6 (logical, and not lvm)...
Toi make it easier I have copied the iso file in the root of the
partition. I have just had to choose the right partition (/dev/sda6)
and install ran from it (much faster than from a cd or dvd moreover).
I've used a method I ve recently heard about, wich consists in copying
the /isolinux folder from the iso into /boot folder (no need to burn a
media, you can use mount for it) and then manually edit a new title in
grub.conf:
title Fedora Core 7 install #for example
root (hd0,0) #adapt it to your own config
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
initrd /isolinux/initrd.img

Reboot on the new title. Then choose install from hard drive, indicate
the partition and the path of the iso in that partition (without a
"/"). And that's it! The only condition is to have the iso in a
partition you won't use during install.
Sorry if my explanation is a little off topic related to your problem
but I'm so enthousiastic with that new method...
I'm quite surprised it didn't work in your case...
Did you actually try to install with your iso file on a logical partition?

Best regards
--
Christophe T

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Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. --0-1211911367-1181506091=:32407-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Sun Jun 10 16:18:01 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Sun Jun 10 15:18:01 2007 Subject: A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <912325.32407.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <912325.32407.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/10, Cyrill : > Hi, > I haven't tried the same things. What i've done was to burn on a cd-r the > rescuecd image, then boot from it, and choose installation from hard drive, > where i specified the location of the .iso file of the fedora image i had > downloaded. That's strange indeed because eventually it's the same as I did (the only difference is the boot method, the install process is equivalent) >but each time i tried this i got the same error message, so i > gave up and installed from dvd... Sure! I'd have done the same. > but i am very curious to know why it didn't work. i thought it was because > it was on a logical partition (ie, part of the extended partition containing > my system files), but you're telling me that i'm wrong... is the logical > partition you installed from part of the same extended partition that > contains your os? > > cyrill > No it isn't, although I don't think that's important (they didn't say anythink about that on the site where I found the hard disk install method [fedora-fr.org]). Here is my part tab: /dev/sda1 /boot (for both distros) /dev/sda2 / of fedora 7 x86-64 (that I've installed from hard disk) /dev/sda3 / of fedora 7 i386 (previously installed from dvd) /dev/sda4 extended part /dev/sda5 /home of both distros /dev/sda6 data partition that contained the iso file /dev/sda7 swap I've already made an install of fedora 7 from hard disk with a similar configuration, the only difference was that the iso file was in the /home/user_of_fc6/Desktop/fedora7-1386 folder. That's quite strange. Maybe some tests using qemu or virtualbox would give more infos... I may try some day and tell you! Best regards -- Christophe T From michael@moltenmercury.org Sun Jun 10 17:53:01 2007 From: michael@moltenmercury.org (Michael Curtis) Date: Sun Jun 10 16:53:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Rebuilding kernel on FC6/CCRMA In-Reply-To: <1180212667.20004.47.camel@cmn15.stanford.edu> References: <200705252046.22512.michael@moltenmercury.org> <1180212667.20004.47.camel@cmn15.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200706101140.07345.michael@moltenmercury.org> On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:51:07 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > The source packages live here: > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/ > > You should be able to rebuild the .src.rpm with (I think) > rpmbuild -ba --target=i586 spec_file_name > > Sorry, I should start building i586 kernels again... Thanks for that, Fernando. Sorry for the late reply, but I did manage to rebuild the kernel for i586 and it's working nicely. I had to modify the kernel config for i586 (changed i686 to i586 in the CPU selection) but otherwise it built fine. I have had a problem with Jackd on this system however. Typing jackd -d results in Illegal Instruction. Running jackd in the debugger shows that it's the result of a cmov instruction (not supported by the C3 and "optional" according to the Intel manuals). I rebuilt the package about 10 times before I worked out the right combination of flags. Currently, I managed to get it to work with these configure flags: --enable-dynsimd=no --enable-sse=no --enable-optimization-by-cpu --enable-optimize=no and removing these compiler flags: -msse -msse2 -m3dnow I suspect that I can construct a more minmal case (suspect support for sse and sse2 that need to be disabled), will experiment further later. In the mean time, hopefully this helps someone else with a C3. Michael From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sun Jun 10 18:47:00 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sun Jun 10 17:47:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Rebuilding kernel on FC6/CCRMA In-Reply-To: <200706101140.07345.michael@moltenmercury.org> References: <200705252046.22512.michael@moltenmercury.org> <1180212667.20004.47.camel@cmn15.stanford.edu> <200706101140.07345.michael@moltenmercury.org> Message-ID: <1181522790.4752.13.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 11:40 +1200, Michael Curtis wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:51:07 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > The source packages live here: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/ > > > > You should be able to rebuild the .src.rpm with (I think) > > rpmbuild -ba --target=i586 spec_file_name > > > > Sorry, I should start building i586 kernels again... > > Thanks for that, Fernando. > > Sorry for the late reply, but I did manage to rebuild the kernel for i586 and > it's working nicely. I had to modify the kernel config for i586 (changed > i686 to i586 in the CPU selection) but otherwise it built fine. > > I have had a problem with Jackd on this system however. Typing > jackd -d > results in Illegal Instruction. Running jackd in the debugger shows that it's > the result of a cmov instruction (not supported by the C3 and "optional" > according to the Intel manuals). I rebuilt the package about 10 times before > I worked out the right combination of flags. Currently, I managed to get it > to work with these configure flags: > --enable-dynsimd=no --enable-sse=no --enable-optimization-by-cpu --enable-optimize=no > and removing these compiler flags: > -msse -msse2 -m3dnow > > I suspect that I can construct a more minmal case (suspect support for sse and > sse2 that need to be disabled), will experiment further later. In the mean > time, hopefully this helps someone else with a C3. Maybe the email below is relevant? Do you know if the C3 supports the CPUID instruction? (although your exception occurs with a cmov instruction). -- Fernando -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Jussi Laako To: Free Ekanayaka Cc: jackit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Optimisation flags in the jackd Debian package Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:08:29 +0300 Free Ekanayaka wrote: > --enable-dynsimd=yes > > if the architecture is amd64 (it has been disabled on i386 because > apparently not every CPU supports it). The whole point of this functionality is that CPUID instruction is used to determine what capabilities the CPU has, at runtime, and to select the used algorithm accordingly. So it should work on anything which supports CPUID instruction (486 upwards?). > CFLAGS += -m3dnow -msse This isn't needed on lowend arch and if dynsimd is disabled. When building with dynsimd, something like "-march=i686 -m3dnow -msse -O3 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer" could be used. If you like to optimize it to the max, something like "-march=pentium4 -mtune=prescott -m3dnow -O3 -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays" would do when arch is pentium4(or core)/athlon64 or better. > However it seems that the use of --enable-sse=yes and -m3dnow -msse > leads to problems on some i386 CPUs, see: Obviously? > How much impact has the use SSE and m3dnow in terms of performances? > Would it be acceptable to drop them in the Debian package in order to > get a wider support of CPUs? "dynsimd" is designed to give near-optimal performance on most hardwares. Only requirement is that the CPU supports CPUID instruction. I doubt if jack would make much sense on such ancient hardware which wouldn't support CPUID (ie. pre-486). > different binary packages, say jackd and jackd-noopt, one built with > these optimisations and the other not. In that case should be also the You should make a difference here between _runtime_ optimizations and _compile_ time optimizations. Having the first one could probably make sense to have in generic package (that's why it's there in first place), second probably doesn't in order to be compatible with older hardware. BR, - Jussi From ascensiontech@gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:58:01 2007 From: ascensiontech@gmail.com (Peter Hartmann) Date: Sun Jun 10 19:58:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9bd317560706101954i52d0bbabp506664dd32caf053@mail.gmail.com> I just downloaded the wine source and I don't see anything that suggests how to do it. I would have thought the README or ./configure --help but no. :( Peter On 6/10/07, Matt Barber wrote: > However, if you ARE using jack from ccrma it is possible to > successfully rebuild wine against the ccrma libjack (if you don't > rebuild, jack output won't be an option when you run apps under wine, > provided you're using ccrma's jack). > > Fernando, what is the status of ccrma vs. fedora extras jack support > long term? As far as I can tell FC7 jack is still ccrma. In the past > I have had trouble building some apps against fedora extras jack and > jack-devel because they don't offer the static archives some apps need > (in which case, you have to rebuild jack as well). I suppose I should > put in a request to whomever maintains extras. > > Matt > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? > > From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > To: Peter Hartmann > > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:22:48 -0700 > > > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 12:39 -0400, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > > Do you guys have an option for jack in your winecfg options? like > > > this (about the middle of the page): > > > > > > http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/ > > > > > > I have: > > > > > > wine-core-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-twain-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-cms-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-capi-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-ldap-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-jack-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-devel-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-nas-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-tools-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > wine-esd-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > Wine comes from Fedora Extras for fc6 (there's no "ccrma" in the release > > tag) so I don't have control over its configuration. You could file a > > bug report in Fedora's bugzilla. Jack is now part of Extras so it should > > be possible for them to configure wine with jack support. > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > > End of PlanetCCRMA Digest > > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From j_hearon@hotmail.com Mon Jun 11 00:55:03 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Sun Jun 10 23:55:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Pd Osc again In-Reply-To: <20070611004700.26774.70312.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: sorry, I'm still not having any luck with osc in pd. I do have the libs in /usr/lib but just cannot seem to get the objects to turn solid in Pd. Tried $pd -lib oscx, also $sudo pd -lib oscx, also import oscx. Nothing seems to work. Does work however for other ext libs such iemlib etc. Not sure why osc libs won't 'turn on'. If this is wrong place to ask , I apologize and will post on pd list. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 From jsdey@optonline.net Mon Jun 11 08:44:01 2007 From: jsdey@optonline.net (John Dey) Date: Mon Jun 11 07:44:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Two sound cards Message-ID: <9fe2dd12cb5a93a341c6cfcc130df337@optonline.net> Hi List, I have a Thinkpad T60P laptop. It has a Intel sound card built in. I added a SIIG USB SoundWave 7.1 sound card and to my amazement the card was automatically configured and ran out of the box. My problem is that it seems that every other boot the Intel sound card is configured but no sound results. How can I correct the situation so that when the USB sound card is not plugged in, I can produce sound from the Intel card and when the USB sound card is present on boot that card always is used? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I am aware and have seen a number of references re 2 sound cards but was unable to find any relevant info. Any references to topics would also be useful to me. John Dey From christoph.t@gmail.com Mon Jun 11 09:16:03 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Mon Jun 11 08:16:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Two sound cards In-Reply-To: <9fe2dd12cb5a93a341c6cfcc130df337@optonline.net> References: <9fe2dd12cb5a93a341c6cfcc130df337@optonline.net> Message-ID: 2007/6/11, John Dey : > Hi List, > > I have a Thinkpad T60P laptop. It has a Intel sound card built in. I > added a SIIG USB SoundWave 7.1 sound card and to my amazement the card > was automatically configured and ran out of the box. My problem is > that it seems that every other boot the Intel sound card is configured > but no sound results. How can I correct the situation so that when the > USB sound card is not plugged in, I can produce sound from the Intel > card and when the USB sound card is present on boot that card always is > used? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > I am aware and have seen a number of references re 2 sound cards but > was unable to find any relevant info. Any references to topics would > also be useful to me. > > John Dey > I'm not an expert in managing 2soundcards (I sould learn more about that,cause I also have an integrated intel and an external one [usb m-audio]). You may configure that with system-configure-soundcard (and choose wich is your "first" soundcard). In my case it works (I mean when I boot without the external card, the integrated one is used, otherwise, the sytem uses the usb as predeterminated) -- Christophe T From jsdey@optonline.net Mon Jun 11 09:34:01 2007 From: jsdey@optonline.net (John Dey) Date: Mon Jun 11 08:34:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Two sound cards In-Reply-To: References: <9fe2dd12cb5a93a341c6cfcc130df337@optonline.net> Message-ID: <351027268e50b3cbb97ee8c478119ba5@optonline.net> On Jun 11, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Christophe T wrote: > 2007/6/11, John Dey : >> Hi List, >> >> I have a Thinkpad T60P laptop. It has a Intel sound card built in. I >> added a SIIG USB SoundWave 7.1 sound card and to my amazement the card >> was automatically configured and ran out of the box. My problem is >> that it seems that every other boot the Intel sound card is configured >> but no sound results. How can I correct the situation so that when >> the >> USB sound card is not plugged in, I can produce sound from the Intel >> card and when the USB sound card is present on boot that card always >> is >> used? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >> >> I am aware and have seen a number of references re 2 sound cards but >> was unable to find any relevant info. Any references to topics would >> also be useful to me. >> >> John Dey >> > > I'm not an expert in managing 2soundcards (I sould learn more about > that,cause I also have an integrated intel and an external one [usb > m-audio]). You may configure that with system-configure-soundcard (and > choose wich is your "first" soundcard). In my case it works (I mean > when I boot without the external card, the integrated one is used, > otherwise, the sytem uses the usb as predeterminated) > > -- > Christophe T Christophe, Thanks for your response. system-configure-soundcard only shows one sound card. The one that is active. How do I get it to show both? John From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jun 11 11:58:40 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jun 11 10:58:40 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7: new kernel packages (2.6.21-0182.rt12.1) Message-ID: <1181584610.6599.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi all, a new release of kernel packages for fc7. These are based on 2.6.21.4 and Ingo's latest patch (rt12). The main difference with previous packages is that I tried to get the configuration files for building the kernels to be as close as possible to the ones that come with the standard Fedora kernels. There are substantianl differences in the configuration of the sata/pata subsystems (the switch from hda to sda naming I presume). Hopefully this will make these kernels more compatible with the stock Fedora kernels. There are still differences as the Planet CCRMA kernels do not incorporate the many patches that the Fedora ones do. Enjoy! -- Fernando From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Mon Jun 11 13:25:01 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Mon Jun 11 12:25:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? Message-ID: Your best bet is probably to get the SRPM and rebuild from that -- you may need to install some extra devel packages to get it to work -- if you do, it's going to take a long time and make tons of packages -- make sure you edit the spec so that it creates the right "version" of wine-jack. Matt > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:54:13 -0400 > From: "Peter Hartmann" > To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? > > I just downloaded the wine source and I don't see anything that > suggests how to do it. I would have thought the README or ./configure > --help but no. :( > > Peter > > On 6/10/07, Matt Barber wrote: > > However, if you ARE using jack from ccrma it is possible to > > successfully rebuild wine against the ccrma libjack (if you don't > > rebuild, jack output won't be an option when you run apps under wine, > > provided you're using ccrma's jack). > > > > Fernando, what is the status of ccrma vs. fedora extras jack support > > long term? As far as I can tell FC7 jack is still ccrma. In the past > > I have had trouble building some apps against fedora extras jack and > > jack-devel because they don't offer the static archives some apps need > > (in which case, you have to rebuild jack as well). I suppose I should > > put in a request to whomever maintains extras. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] wine-jack? > > > From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano > > > To: Peter Hartmann > > > Cc: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU > > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:22:48 -0700 > > > > > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 12:39 -0400, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > > > Do you guys have an option for jack in your winecfg options? like > > > > this (about the middle of the page): > > > > > > > > http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/ > > > > > > > > I have: > > > > > > > > wine-core-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-twain-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-cms-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-capi-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-ldap-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-jack-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-devel-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-nas-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-tools-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > wine-esd-0.9.36-2.fc6 > > > > > > Wine comes from Fedora Extras for fc6 (there's no "ccrma" in the release > > > tag) so I don't have control over its configuration. You could file a > > > bug report in Fedora's bugzilla. Jack is now part of Extras so it should > > > be possible for them to configure wine with jack support. > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > From orcanbahri@yahoo.com Mon Jun 11 14:12:02 2007 From: orcanbahri@yahoo.com (Orcan Ogetbil) Date: Mon Jun 11 13:12:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <1181354712.12031.75.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <745850.36694.qm@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm pleased to inform you that the new kernel (2.6.21-0182.rt12.1.fc7.ccrmart) booted fine on my system. I loaded my nvidia modules and everything works as expected. I'll report if anything unusual happens. Special thanks go to Fernando and Ingo ! Orcan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jun 11 14:14:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jun 11 13:14:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Kernel-rt doesn't boot (fc7) In-Reply-To: <745850.36694.qm@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <745850.36694.qm@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181592835.6599.26.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 12:26 -0700, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > I'm pleased to inform you that the new kernel > (2.6.21-0182.rt12.1.fc7.ccrmart) booted fine on my > system. I loaded my nvidia modules and everything > works as expected. I'll report if anything unusual > happens. > > Special thanks go to Fernando and Ingo ! Very glad to hear it works! Most probably it was the mismatch between the sata/pata configuration options in a Fedora kernel vs. the Planet CCRMA kernel... -- Fernando From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Mon Jun 11 17:45:03 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Mon Jun 11 16:45:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel Message-ID: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi i'm having some issues with the freebob driver. I have a fedora 7 distro with planetccrma RT patched kernel. When i try to start the jack server with freebob i get the following msg: JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 Ieee1394Service::initialize: Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded? Fatal (devicemanager.cpp)[68] initialize: Could not initialize Ieee1349Service object Fatal (freebob.cpp)[69] freebob_new_handle: Could not initialize device manager FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device cannot load driver module freebob the modules seem to be loaded [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 raw1394 32404 0 dv1394 23284 0 ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 and /dev/raw1394 is present and +w any idea? thanks in advance Fabrizio -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebob-jackd-problem-on-Fedora-7-planetccrma-RT-kernel-tf3904647.html#a11070521 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Jun 11 18:21:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Mon Jun 11 17:21:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 16:18 -0700, METAMATIC wrote: > Hi > i'm having some issues with the freebob driver. > I have a fedora 7 distro with planetccrma RT patched kernel. > When i try to start the jack server with freebob i get the following msg: > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > loading driver .. > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > Ieee1394Service::initialize: Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument > Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded? > Fatal (devicemanager.cpp)[68] initialize: Could not initialize > Ieee1349Service object > Fatal (freebob.cpp)[69] freebob_new_handle: Could not initialize > device manager > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > cannot load driver module freebob > > the modules seem to be loaded > > [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 > raw1394 32404 0 > dv1394 23284 0 > ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 > ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 > > and /dev/raw1394 is present and +w Have you tried loading the ieee1394 module? I think it is a separate kernel module... > any idea? Does it work with the stock Fedora kernel? The Fedora kernel is now using a new firewire stack but I have not propagated that to the Planet CCRMA rt kernel (or know if it is even possible with a rework of the patch). The two stacks are supposed to be api compatible but maybe there's a difference somewhere. -- Fernando From pjh@coastal.net.au Mon Jun 11 18:39:01 2007 From: pjh@coastal.net.au (Peter Howard) Date: Mon Jun 11 17:39:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181608782.2676.1.camel@pig.nridge.com.au> --=-fcFv0PHIt6pAiRyhunMA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 17:20 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 16:18 -0700, METAMATIC wrote: > > Hi=20 > > i'm having some issues with the freebob driver. > > I have a fedora 7 distro with planetccrma RT patched kernel. > > When i try to start the jack server with freebob i get the following ms= g: > >=20 > > JACK compiled with System V SHM support. > > loading driver .. > > Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 > > Ieee1394Service::initialize: Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argumen= t > > Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded? > > =1B[31mFatal (devicemanager.cpp)[68] initialize: Could not initialize > > Ieee1349Service object > > =1B[0m=1B[31mFatal (freebob.cpp)[69] freebob_new_handle: Could not init= ialize > > device manager > > FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device > > =1B[0mcannot load driver module freebob > >=20 > > the modules seem to be loaded > >=20 > > [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 > > raw1394 32404 0=20 > > dv1394 23284 0=20 > > ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 > > ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 > >=20 > > and /dev/raw1394 is present and +w >=20 > Have you tried loading the ieee1394 module? I think it is a separate > kernel module... >=20 > > any idea? >=20 > Does it work with the stock Fedora kernel? >=20 > The Fedora kernel is now using a new firewire stack but I have not > propagated that to the Planet CCRMA rt kernel (or know if it is even > possible with a rework of the patch). The two stacks are supposed to be > api compatible but maybe there's a difference somewhere.=20 >=20 > -- Fernando Note the claim in this article that there's a problem with the new firewire stack in F7: http://distrocenter.linux.com/article.pl?sid=3D07/06/06/1327234&tid=3D107 --=20 Peter Howard pjh@coastal.net.au Jabber Id: pjhacnau@12jabber.com AIM Id: pjhacnau --=-fcFv0PHIt6pAiRyhunMA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGbetGBBX6HdcmZJARAgZMAKCaX6PIQjoSgTVRNco9dRVFfnfYxQCfYxeR ajZv4CMKDXQySiSptSNxRqU= =tpiH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fcFv0PHIt6pAiRyhunMA-- From jsdey@optonline.net Tue Jun 12 07:29:02 2007 From: jsdey@optonline.net (John S. Dey) Date: Tue Jun 12 06:29:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Install ipw3945 wireless module Message-ID: <466E9F59.9020000@optonline.net> Hi List, I am trying to get the ipw3945 driver loaded on the latest rt kernel for fc6. I have installed the driver on the stock kernel. When I run make on in the directory I get the following message: [robo7@robo6 ipw3945-1.2.1]$ make WARNING: Your kernel contains ieee80211 symbol definitions and you are not using the kernel's default ieee80211 subsystem. (Perhaps you used the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem's 'make install' or have provided a path to the ieee80211 subsystem via IEEE80211_INC.) If you wish to use the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem then it is recommended to use that projects' "make patch_kernel" facility and rebuild your kernel to update the Module symbol version information. Failure to do this may result in build warnings and unexpected behavior when running modules which rely on the ieee80211 subsystem. Aborting the build. You can force the build to continue by adding: IEEE80211_IGNORE_DUPLICATE=y to your make command line. ************** Should I set the enviromental variable and re-make? Or is there another approach? Thanks for your assistance. John make: *** [check_inc] Error 1 From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 07:50:02 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 12 06:50:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Install ipw3945 wireless module In-Reply-To: <466E9F59.9020000@optonline.net> References: <466E9F59.9020000@optonline.net> Message-ID: <695e1a650706120649r518978bfia0c23fd33a1789b6@mail.gmail.com> John, I recommend to use the packages at the freshrpms repository. They worked perfectly fine in my laptop with FC6 and CCRMA kernel. All I had to do was to install these 3 packages: http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/ipw3945d/ipw3945d-1.7.22-4.i386.rpm http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/ipw3945-firmware/ipw3945-firmware-1.14.2-1.noarch.rpm http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/dkms-ipw3945/dkms-ipw3945-1.2.1-1.noarch.rpm The last one will automatically build the module for your kernel so make sure you have installed the kernel headers package kernel-rt-devel Hope this works for you. Now I installed Fedora 7 and the module is installed automatically and I can connect but the laptop's wireless light is not working. Hector On 6/12/07, John S. Dey wrote: > Hi List, > > I am trying to get the ipw3945 driver loaded on the latest rt kernel for > fc6. I have installed the driver on the stock kernel. When I run make > on in the directory I get the following message: > > [robo7@robo6 ipw3945-1.2.1]$ make > > WARNING: Your kernel contains ieee80211 symbol definitions and you > are not using the kernel's default ieee80211 subsystem. (Perhaps you > used the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem's 'make install' or have > provided a path to the ieee80211 subsystem via IEEE80211_INC.) > > If you wish to use the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem then it is > recommended to use that projects' "make patch_kernel" facility > and rebuild your kernel to update the Module symbol version information. > > Failure to do this may result in build warnings and unexpected > behavior when running modules which rely on the ieee80211 subsystem. > > Aborting the build. You can force the build to continue by adding: > > IEEE80211_IGNORE_DUPLICATE=y > > to your make command line. > > ************** > > Should I set the enviromental variable and re-make? Or is there another > approach? Thanks for your assistance. > > John > make: *** [check_inc] Error 1 > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 10:35:02 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Tue Jun 12 09:35:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <11074331.post@talk.nabble.com> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 16:18 -0700, METAMATIC wrote: >> Hi >> i'm having some issues with the freebob driver. >> I have a fedora 7 distro with planetccrma RT patched kernel. >> When i try to start the jack server with freebob i get the following msg: >> >> JACK compiled with System V SHM support. >> loading driver .. >> Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 >> Ieee1394Service::initialize: Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument >> Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded? >> Fatal (devicemanager.cpp)[68] initialize: Could not initialize >> Ieee1349Service object >> Fatal (freebob.cpp)[69] freebob_new_handle: Could not initialize >> device manager >> FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device >> cannot load driver module freebob >> >> the modules seem to be loaded >> >> [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 >> raw1394 32404 0 >> dv1394 23284 0 >> ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 >> ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 >> >> and /dev/raw1394 is present and +w > > Have you tried loading the ieee1394 module? I think it is a separate > kernel module... > >> any idea? > > Does it work with the stock Fedora kernel? > > The Fedora kernel is now using a new firewire stack but I have not > propagated that to the Planet CCRMA rt kernel (or know if it is even > possible with a rework of the patch). The two stacks are supposed to be > api compatible but maybe there's a difference somewhere. > > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > The ieee1394 module seems to be loaded... I get the same msg using the stock fedora 7 kernel, anyway that kernel actually uses a different modules configuration. The modules loaded with the stock kernel are fw_core and fw_ohci and the device files are /dev/fw0 and /dev/fw1. Anyway the freebob message is the same. Seems like freebob can't manage to write on /dev/raw1394 even when i load the patched kernel... thanks for the reply Fabrizio -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebob-jackd-problem-on-Fedora-7-planetccrma-RT-kernel-tf3904647.html#a11074331 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 14:57:04 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 12 13:57:04 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 Message-ID: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the software settings. 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). Thank you! Hector From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 12 15:42:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 12 14:42:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > software settings. > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). -- Fernando From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 16:21:02 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Tue Jun 12 15:21:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <11088065.post@talk.nabble.com> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Have you tried loading the ieee1394 module? I think it is a separate > kernel module... > The ieee1394 module seems to be loaded... [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 raw1394 32404 0 dv1394 23284 0 ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Does it work with the stock Fedora kernel? > > The Fedora kernel is now using a new firewire stack but I have not > propagated that to the Planet CCRMA rt kernel (or know if it is even > possible with a rework of the patch). The two stacks are supposed to be > api compatible but maybe there's a difference somewhere. > I get the same msg using the stock fedora 7 kernel, anyway that kernel actually uses a different modules configuration. The modules loaded with the stock kernel are fw_core and fw_ohci and the device files are /dev/fw0 and /dev/fw1. Anyway the freebob message is the same. Seems like freebob can't manage to write on /dev/raw1394 even when i load the patched kernel... thanks for the reply have a nice day Fabrizio -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebob-jackd-problem-on-Fedora-7-planetccrma-RT-kernel-tf3904647.html#a11088065 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 17:31:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 12 16:31:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> Hi Fernando, Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? Hector On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > software settings. > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > -- Fernando > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 12 17:48:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 12 16:48:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181692040.11162.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hi Fernando, > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use before it has to give up the bus. The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). -- Fernando > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > software settings. > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 17:57:01 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Tue Jun 12 16:57:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> <1181607627.6599.50.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <11088065.post@talk.nabble.com> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Have you tried loading the ieee1394 module? I think it is a separate > kernel module... > The ieee1394 module seems to be loaded... [metamatic@ppp-104-13 ~]$ /sbin/lsmod | grep 1394 raw1394 32404 0 dv1394 23284 0 ohci1394 38576 1 dv1394 ieee1394 102392 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > Does it work with the stock Fedora kernel? > > The Fedora kernel is now using a new firewire stack but I have not > propagated that to the Planet CCRMA rt kernel (or know if it is even > possible with a rework of the patch). The two stacks are supposed to be > api compatible but maybe there's a difference somewhere. > I get the same msg using the stock fedora 7 kernel, anyway that kernel actually uses a different modules configuration. The modules loaded with the stock kernel are fw_core and fw_ohci and the device files are /dev/fw0 and /dev/fw1. Anyway the freebob message is the same. Seems like freebob can't manage to write on /dev/raw1394 even when i load the patched kernel... thanks for the reply have a nice day Fabrizio -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebob-jackd-problem-on-Fedora-7-planetccrma-RT-kernel-tf3904647.html#a11088065 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 18:18:02 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 12 17:18:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <1181692040.11162.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> <1181692040.11162.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706121717h6b68411anf326bc3886ec8270@mail.gmail.com> I found this guide: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html#N10093 (Linux hardware stability guide, Part 2) and followed the advice about setting the latency. It seems to be working better now but still have to test a little bit more. I don't know if the settings discussed in that article are still valid for a modern system (well, the article is from 2001 but technology changes so fast...). So basically I set the latency of all devices to 176 and my sound card to the maximum (248), so it can send longer bursts of data without interruptions... also I set the priority of Csound to 55. Hector On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Hi Fernando, > > > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? > > The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use > before it has to give up the bus. > > The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value > set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the > soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). > > -- Fernando > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > > software settings. > > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 12 18:22:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 12 17:22:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706121717h6b68411anf326bc3886ec8270@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> <1181692040.11162.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121717h6b68411anf326bc3886ec8270@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181694089.11162.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 20:17 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > I found this guide: > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html#N10093 (Linux > hardware stability guide, Part 2) and followed the advice about > setting the latency. It seems to be working better now but still have > to test a little bit more. I don't know if the settings discussed in > that article are still valid for a modern system (well, the article is > from 2001 but technology changes so fast...). So basically I set the > latency of all devices to 176 and my sound card to the maximum (248), > so it can send longer bursts of data without interruptions... Yes, that's correct (and that articles is still valid, I think I have a link somewhere in the Planet CCRMA pages). > also I set the priority of Csound to 55. Hmmm, so you are using csound in realtime? Is it using Jack? -- Fernando > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > > > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? > > > > The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use > > before it has to give up the bus. > > > > The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value > > set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the > > soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > > > software settings. > > > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > > > > > -- Fernando From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 19:01:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 12 18:01:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] sound card IRQ and crackling sound on F7 In-Reply-To: <1181694089.11162.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650706121356u7651bf53mdfcc95dc098af9bb@mail.gmail.com> <1181684495.11162.11.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121630l24390f88mdcedf65c043f2447@mail.gmail.com> <1181692040.11162.17.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706121717h6b68411anf326bc3886ec8270@mail.gmail.com> <1181694089.11162.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706121800y6362c094ndc61f98c6702e8dc@mail.gmail.com> Yes, Csound in realtime and using jack. I checked the priority of all the jack threads to make sure Csound's was set below. If I don't set the priority then I sometimes get clicks in the audio when interacting with the FLTK widgets. Hector On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 20:17 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > I found this guide: > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html#N10093 (Linux > > hardware stability guide, Part 2) and followed the advice about > > setting the latency. It seems to be working better now but still have > > to test a little bit more. I don't know if the settings discussed in > > that article are still valid for a modern system (well, the article is > > from 2001 but technology changes so fast...). So basically I set the > > latency of all devices to 176 and my sound card to the maximum (248), > > so it can send longer bursts of data without interruptions... > > Yes, that's correct (and that articles is still valid, I think I have a > link somewhere in the Planet CCRMA pages). > > > also I set the priority of Csound to 55. > > Hmmm, so you are using csound in realtime? Is it using Jack? > -- Fernando > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > > > > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? > > > > > > The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use > > > before it has to give up the bus. > > > > > > The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value > > > set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the > > > soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > > > > software settings. > > > > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > > > > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > > > > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > > > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From dwpbike@yahoo.com Tue Jun 12 23:00:02 2007 From: dwpbike@yahoo.com (DAVID PINKSTON) Date: Tue Jun 12 22:00:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMANews] A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <462475.2198.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <289335.81933.qm@web31911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> don't have the answer, but would appreciate hearing about your results. i will be doing the same soon, only it will be redhat9 -> fc6, then ccrma. i dual boot with win98, may leave it out. seems to me that when you install from cd, you are doing just that. shouldn't you choose "install from cd"? my pc came with no os. i installed win98 from cd, then redhat9 from cd. would not work with linux first. --- Cyrill wrote: > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has > already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, > then i boot from it and choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file > (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation > exited abnormally"? > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > > Thanks, > > cyrill > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMANews mailing list > PlanetCCRMANews@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrmanews > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From hcengar@gmail.com Wed Jun 13 05:14:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Wed Jun 13 04:14:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] crackling sound on F7 - using Csound in realtime Message-ID: <695e1a650706130413r2e0d1379t365a41b763c8ed3e@mail.gmail.com> ok, now this is getting strange.. changing the PCI latency timer didn't really make a difference, as soon as I increase the buffers in Jack (i.e. something higher than 256x2 like for example 512x2 and also setting the -B -b flags in Csound accordingly) I start getting crackling on the right channel... but I found that if at the same time, while Csound is running in realtime (and crackling like crazy), I start another sound application that uses jack (like Ardour or Aqualung player) the crackling disappears immediately! If I quit that jack application without stopping Csound then the sound remains clean. If I restart Csound (without any other app. running) the crackling comes back, but if I restart Csound without closing the other jack app. then Csound is clean! It's like the presence of another jack app. at the same time makes Csound to enter in sync with jack properly... or something like that. Hector p.d. I'm forwarding this to the Csound list On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 20:17 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > I found this guide: > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html#N10093 (Linux > > hardware stability guide, Part 2) and followed the advice about > > setting the latency. It seems to be working better now but still have > > to test a little bit more. I don't know if the settings discussed in > > that article are still valid for a modern system (well, the article is > > from 2001 but technology changes so fast...). So basically I set the > > latency of all devices to 176 and my sound card to the maximum (248), > > so it can send longer bursts of data without interruptions... > > Yes, that's correct (and that articles is still valid, I think I have a > link somewhere in the Planet CCRMA pages). > > > also I set the priority of Csound to 55. > > Hmmm, so you are using csound in realtime? Is it using Jack? > -- Fernando > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > > > > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? > > > > > > The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use > > > before it has to give up the bus. > > > > > > The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value > > > set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the > > > soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > > > > software settings. > > > > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > > > > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > > > > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > > > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From cduneau@yahoo.com Wed Jun 13 08:57:00 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Wed Jun 13 07:57:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? Message-ID: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-393006641-1181746599=:77577 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the following message: Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by planet-ccrma-apps... Anyone would know how to resolve that? Thanks, cyrill --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. --0-393006641-1181746599=:77577 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi,
when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the following message:
Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl
I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by planet-ccrma-apps...
Anyone would know how to resolve that?
Thanks,
cyrill

Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. --0-393006641-1181746599=:77577-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Wed Jun 13 09:07:00 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Valenciennes represents!!) Date: Wed Jun 13 08:07:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? In-Reply-To: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/13, Cyrill : > hi, > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the > following message: > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by > planet-ccrma-apps... > Anyone would know how to resolve that? > Thanks, > cyrill > > The problem seems to be that the version sbcl used by planetccrma-apps does not match with the update of this package today proposed by fedora. You may remove sbcl, and do the update again. The only think is that planetccrma-apps will be removed for dependency, but actually no application of planetccrma. I wonder if the planetccrma-apps is really useful except to install the main applications on first time... -- Christophe T From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 11:31:07 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 10:31:07 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? In-Reply-To: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181755841.14829.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 07:56 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > hi, > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the > following message: > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by > planet-ccrma-apps... > Anyone would know how to resolve that? Wait a little bit? I presume this is on fc7... I did the update for fc6 a couple of days ago but fc7 had not yet released 1.0.6... (it is always a good idea to tell us which version of fedora you are running). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 11:37:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 10:37:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? In-Reply-To: References: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181756206.14829.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:06 +0200, Valenciennes represents!! wrote: > 2007/6/13, Cyrill : > > hi, > > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the > > following message: > > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl > > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by > > planet-ccrma-apps... > > Anyone would know how to resolve that? > > The problem seems to be that the version sbcl used by planetccrma-apps > does not match with the update of this package today proposed by > fedora. You may remove sbcl, and do the update again. The only think > is that planetccrma-apps will be removed for dependency, but actually > no application of planetccrma. I wonder if the planetccrma-apps is > really useful except to install the main applications on first time... It is useful (or not) in the sense that when I add more apps to Planet CCRMA they will be automatically installed if you have planetccrma-apps installed. -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 11:59:29 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 10:59:29 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? In-Reply-To: <1181755841.14829.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <389923.77577.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1181755841.14829.2.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181757536.14829.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 10:30 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 07:56 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > > hi, > > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the > > following message: > > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl > > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by > > planet-ccrma-apps... > > Anyone would know how to resolve that? > > Wait a little bit? > I presume this is on fc7... I did the update for fc6 a couple of days > ago but fc7 had not yet released 1.0.6... > > (it is always a good idea to tell us which version of fedora you are > running). New clm/cmn/cm/slime packages are now available for fc7... BTW, thanks for the report! -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 12:14:52 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 11:14:52 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6: kernel-rt; fc7: clm/cmn/cm/slime, jack Message-ID: <1181758427.14829.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hi all, a few updates: On fc7: - new clm/cmn/cm/slime packages that match the new sbcl (1.0.6) - new jack-audio-connection-kit packages! svn snapshot from yesterday, version 0.107.2, svn 1050 the reason for the new jack package is manyfold, most important is that the dynamic simd support changes by Jussi Laako[*] enables me to compile the package with the proper optimization flags, it will (should?) work on all ppro+ type processors, including those like the C3 that do not have the cmov instruction. **NOTE**: the soundcard connections used to be named "alsa_pcm" and the name has changed, they will now appear as "system" (this change happened a while back and is meant to have the same name for all supported platforms as "alsa" is linux specific). The new jackd also includes port aliases and the jack_midi infrastructure, but I have not even tried to use it yet (or compile packages that use it). On fc6: - new kernel-rt packages including 2.6.21.4 and Ingo's rt13 patch... Enjoy! -- Fernando [*] the changes still need some autotools magic that's not there, if there is an autotools magician in the audience that would like to help please contact Jussi... From cduneau@yahoo.com Wed Jun 13 14:14:01 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Wed Jun 13 13:14:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] dependency problem? In-Reply-To: <1181757536.14829.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <993684.47545.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-293603563-1181765584=:47545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, and sorry for the missing information, but yes, you got it, i am using fc7... everything is all right now, the update worked perfectly. thanks a lot, cyrill Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 10:30 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 07:56 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > > hi, > > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the > > following message: > > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl > > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by > > planet-ccrma-apps... > > Anyone would know how to resolve that? > > Wait a little bit? > I presume this is on fc7... I did the update for fc6 a couple of days > ago but fc7 had not yet released 1.0.6... > > (it is always a good idea to tell us which version of fedora you are > running). New clm/cmn/cm/slime packages are now available for fc7... BTW, thanks for the report! -- Fernando --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-293603563-1181765584=:47545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi,
and sorry for the missing information, but yes, you got it, i am using fc7...
everything is all right now, the update worked perfectly.
thanks a lot,

cyrill

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 10:30 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 07:56 -0700, Cyrill wrote:
> > hi,
> > when trying to update there is a dependency problem coming with the
> > following message:
> > Missing Dependency: sbcl = 1.0.5 is needed by package slime-sbcl
> > I think that these libs - or at least the last one - are needed by
> > planet-ccrma-apps...
> > Anyone would know how to resolve that?
>
> Wait a little bit?
> I presume this is on fc7... I did the update for fc6 a couple of days
> ago but fc7 had not yet released 1.0.6...
>
> (it is always a good idea to tell us which version of fedora you are
> running).

New clm/cmn/cm/slime packages are now available for fc7...
BTW, thanks for the report!
-- Fernando



Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.
Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-293603563-1181765584=:47545-- From python@venix.com Wed Jun 13 15:51:01 2007 From: python@venix.com (Lloyd Kvam) Date: Wed Jun 13 14:51:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMANews] A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <462475.2198.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <462475.2198.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1181740959.22623.199.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 08:39 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? The .iso must be mounted as a file system. The mount command typically would look like: mount -o loop /home/myself/Fedora-DVD.iso /var/www/html/f7/ -o loop means we are not mounting a real device but looping back to a file and treating it like a mountable device I am not sure that you would have the chance to mount the ISO through the rescue CD. I assume you lack a DVD burner or a DVD reader on the target system. I've handled that situation in the past by mounting the DVD iso where it can be accessed from a web server (see the above mount command) and used the install from network option. > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > > Thanks, > > cyrill > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMANews mailing list > PlanetCCRMANews@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrmanews -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp From kyrian@ore.org Wed Jun 13 15:51:43 2007 From: kyrian@ore.org (Kyrian) Date: Wed Jun 13 14:51:43 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMANews] A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <20070613190031.27124.69039.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20070613190031.27124.69039.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <467051E6.8030707@ore.org> > Hi there > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and choose "install from > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? > Anyone has already tried this kind of install? > It'll never work (for reasons I have noted before, but not investigated thoroughly) if you have /home on the root partition and not a separate partition [if you are in that boat, look at 'man resize2fs', and make room for then create a separate /home CAREFULLY!], and it's not worked previously from LVM partitions, but further to all that, in FC7 they have (due to upstream kernel PATA/SATA changes after kernel 2.6.18) redone the whole disk heirachy. Specifically with FC7, I already tried that approach, gave up, tried FTP install from a local LANdisk appliance. It failed. Gave up, tried a HTTP install, it worked. There seem to be regular net related kernel panics in FC7, especially in the installer, which I have not yet got around to reporting a bug about. After all that, I am unsure whether I will even bother with FC8 for my workstations, I have already abandoned FC for servers. K. -- Kev Green, aka Kyrian. E: kyrian@ore.org WWW: http://kyrian.ore.org/ Linux/Security Contractor/LAMP Coder/ISP, via http://www.orenet.co.uk/ DJ via http://www.hellnoise.co.uk/ From hcengar@gmail.com Wed Jun 13 16:11:00 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Wed Jun 13 15:11:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] crackling sound on F7 - using Csound in realtime In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706130413r2e0d1379t365a41b763c8ed3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706130413r2e0d1379t365a41b763c8ed3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <695e1a650706131510qe5b87f3m78b8c64c7d02f811@mail.gmail.com> Well, I found what the problem was. There was an option checked inside the envy24control for resetting the sample rate and for some reason with Csound causes a conflict. After unchecking that everything seems fine. Thanks! Hector On 6/13/07, Hector Centeno wrote: > ok, now this is getting strange.. changing the PCI latency timer > didn't really make a difference, as soon as I increase the buffers in > Jack (i.e. something higher than 256x2 like for example 512x2 and also > setting the -B -b flags in Csound accordingly) I start getting > crackling on the right channel... but I found that if at the same > time, while Csound is running in realtime (and crackling like crazy), > I start another sound application that uses jack (like Ardour or > Aqualung player) the crackling disappears immediately! If I quit that > jack application without stopping Csound then the sound remains clean. > If I restart Csound (without any other app. running) the crackling > comes back, but if I restart Csound without closing the other jack > app. then Csound is clean! It's like the presence of another jack app. > at the same time makes Csound to enter in sync with jack properly... > or something like that. > > > Hector > > p.d. I'm forwarding this to the Csound list > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 20:17 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > I found this guide: > > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html#N10093 (Linux > > > hardware stability guide, Part 2) and followed the advice about > > > setting the latency. It seems to be working better now but still have > > > to test a little bit more. I don't know if the settings discussed in > > > that article are still valid for a modern system (well, the article is > > > from 2001 but technology changes so fast...). So basically I set the > > > latency of all devices to 176 and my sound card to the maximum (248), > > > so it can send longer bursts of data without interruptions... > > > > Yes, that's correct (and that articles is still valid, I think I have a > > link somewhere in the Planet CCRMA pages). > > > > > also I set the priority of Csound to 55. > > > > Hmmm, so you are using csound in realtime? Is it using Jack? > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:30 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your advice. It says the Audiophile has a latency of 64 > > > > > which is what it's set at in the BIOS. Should I reduce this? > > > > > > > > The latency in this context is how many pci cycles can the card use > > > > before it has to give up the bus. > > > > > > > > The point would be to see if there is another card that has that value > > > > set very high and then can hog the pci bus itself and starve the > > > > soundcard (64 sounds right for a default). > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/12/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:56 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having problems with my new motherboard (Asus P5B-VM with an Intel > > > > > > > Core 2 Duo) and a M-Audio Audiphile PCI audio interface. My problem is > > > > > > > mainly with Csound and getting crackling sound on one channel. If I > > > > > > > set jack buffers to anything higher than 512x2 the crackling gets > > > > > > > worse. I tried switching the card to the other PCI slot (it has only > > > > > > > two) and the problem got even worse as I would get crackling audio > > > > > > > always. I noticed that both PCI slots are sharing IRQ with other 3 > > > > > > > devices (usb, video card, libata). In the motherboards manual it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.8.2 Configuring an expansion card > > > > > > > After installing the expansion card, configure it by adjusting the > > > > > > > software settings. > > > > > > > 1. Turn on the system and change the necessary BIOS settings, if any. See > > > > > > > Chapter 4 for information on BIOS setup. > > > > > > > 2. Assign an IRQ to the card. Refer to the tables on the next page. > > > > > > > 3. Install the software drivers for the expansion card. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no more details about how to perform step 2, Chapter 4 only > > > > > > > talks about reserving IRQ for ISA interfaces and in the bios there is > > > > > > > no way to manually assign IRQs and it looks like it's something you > > > > > > > are supposed to do va software, so I was wondering if anyone knows how > > > > > > > to do IRQ assignment in Linux using the CCRMA kernel. With my older > > > > > > > motherboard and FC6 it was possible to get the Audiophile to have it's > > > > > > > own IRQ and I never had any problems with the audio (until the hard > > > > > > > drive controllers in the mobo started to fail and had to replace it). > > > > > > > > > > > > I would check the pci latency settings just in case that's the problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do a "/sbin/lspci -v" and see what numbers you have for the latency > > > > > > parameter for the cards installed (included the video card). > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > -- > =============================== > http://www.hcenteno.net > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Wed Jun 13 20:30:02 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Wed Jun 13 19:30:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7 x86_64 i386 conflicts Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying out ccrma x86_64 on FC7. I am having trouble with dependencies updating certain packages because there are both i386 and x86_64 packages installed. For instance, trying to install planetccrma-core, I get Transaction Check Error: file /etc/security/limits.conf from install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 file /usr/share/man/man5/namespace.conf.5.gz from install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_namespace.8.gz from install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_selinux.8.gz from install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 However, "yum update pam" works on its own, since both i386 and x86_64 versions get updated from planetccrma (I'm assuming this is because installing the x86_64 planetccrma-core will only depend on the same architecture's pam). Also, jack-audio-connection-kit has the same problem: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/jackd.1.gz from install of jack-audio-connection-kit-0.107.2-0.1.1050.svn.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7 which I assume is due to: # rpm -qa --queryformat %-{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}"\n" jack-audio-connection-kit jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.i386 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.x86_64 and it seems planetccrma only has the x86_64 version on hand. What's the best way to avoid this type of conflict? Also, being new to the 64-bit world, how does it work to have two packages own /usr/bin/jackd -- is it a 64-bit or a 32-bit binary, or does it just depend upon which library it is using at the time? Does it matter which gets updated first? I'm assuming the i386 version should indeed be there at all. Thanks again, Matt From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 22:53:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 21:53:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7 x86_64 i386 conflicts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181796756.17864.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 22:29 -0400, Matt Barber wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying out ccrma x86_64 on FC7. I am having trouble with > dependencies updating certain packages because there are both i386 and > x86_64 packages installed. For instance, trying to install > planetccrma-core, I get > > > Transaction Check Error: > file /etc/security/limits.conf from install of > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > file /usr/share/man/man5/namespace.conf.5.gz from install of > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_namespace.8.gz from install of > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_selinux.8.gz from > install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > > > However, "yum update pam" works on its own, since both i386 and x86_64 > versions get updated from planetccrma (I'm assuming this is because > installing the x86_64 planetccrma-core will only depend on the same > architecture's pam). Yes, that's probably correct. I'll modify (if possible) the dependencies in planetccrma-core to take this into account, that is require both architectures in the Requires:. I don't know if rpm accepts that at all. > Also, jack-audio-connection-kit has the same problem: That one is a surprise... > Transaction Check Error: > file /usr/share/man/man1/jackd.1.gz from install of > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.107.2-0.1.1050.svn.fc7.ccrma conflicts > with file from package jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7 > > which I assume is due to: > > # rpm -qa --queryformat %-{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}"\n" > jack-audio-connection-kit > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.i386 > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.x86_64 > > > and it seems planetccrma only has the x86_64 version on hand. Correct, I did not know that it was built for both architectures _and_ installed by default. I wonder what requires the i386 version? Could you do, for example: yum remove jack-audio-connection-kit.i386 and of course say "n" when asked... but note down which packages are going to be erased if you remove that guy? (later: looks like arts.i386 and fluidsynth-libs.i386 are the only ones requiring a i386 version...) > What's > the best way to avoid this type of conflict? Also, being new to the > 64-bit world, how does it work to have two packages own /usr/bin/jackd > -- is it a 64-bit or a 32-bit binary, or does it just depend upon > which library it is using at the time? Does it matter which gets > updated first? I'm assuming the i386 version should indeed be there > at all. Hmmm, I don't have an answer to that. I had imagined that multiarchitecture packages, when installed together, would not share binaries, after all that's what multiple architectures are for. I'll try to learn more about this... -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 13 23:25:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 13 22:25:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7 x86_64 i386 conflicts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181798669.17864.16.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 22:29 -0400, Matt Barber wrote: > Also, jack-audio-connection-kit has the same problem: > > Transaction Check Error: > file /usr/share/man/man1/jackd.1.gz from install of > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.107.2-0.1.1050.svn.fc7.ccrma conflicts > with file from package jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7 > > which I assume is due to: > > # rpm -qa --queryformat %-{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}"\n" > jack-audio-connection-kit > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.i386 > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.x86_64 > > > and it seems planetccrma only has the x86_64 version on hand. I just added the i386 version to the x86_64 repository as well... you should be able to yum update without (hopefully) problems. -- Fernando From christoph.t@gmail.com Thu Jun 14 05:27:09 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Valenciennes represents!!) Date: Thu Jun 14 04:27:09 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMANews] A bit OT: trying to install fc7 from hard drive - was [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386! In-Reply-To: <1181740959.22623.199.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <462475.2198.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1181740959.22623.199.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2007/6/13, Lloyd Kvam : > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 08:39 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > > Hi there > > It may be a bit off topic, sorry... > > > > Im trying to install fc7 on my pc i386, which has already an Ubuntu on it. I've downloaded the > > .iso for fc7 and burnt the rescuecd.iso on a cd-rw, then i boot from it and choose "install from > > hard drive", then i select the location of the file (here, /home/myself/Fedora-blahblah.iso), but > > at this point i get an error message "Installation exited abnormally"? > > The .iso must be mounted as a file system. The mount command typically > would look like: > mount -o loop /home/myself/Fedora-DVD.iso /var/www/html/f7/ > > -o loop means we are not mounting a real device but looping back to a > file and treating it like a mountable device > > I am not sure that you would have the chance to mount the ISO through > the rescue CD. I assume you lack a DVD burner or a DVD reader on the > target system. I've handled that situation in the past by mounting the > DVD iso where it can be accessed from a web server (see the above mount > command) and used the install from network option. > No. I'm sure you don't have to mount the iso, I did this kind of install several times. You just have to indicate where the iso is. That is in which partition, and in which folder of this partition. For example, if your iso is in sda5, in the /documents/fedora7-1386 folder, after choosing install from hard drive, anaconda asks you for the iso, just: - Choose /dev/sda5 (normally your partitions are listed) - Indicate documents/fedora7-i386 (without /) And go. And anyway, if the path indicated is incorrect, it just indicates you immediatly that the requested files were not found, and not the error message Cyrill is given. -- Christophe T From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Thu Jun 14 08:28:01 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Thu Jun 14 07:28:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc7 x86_64 i386 conflicts In-Reply-To: <1181796756.17864.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181796756.17864.14.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: As for jack i386 being installed by default -- it looks like it does so if you choose to install KDE at the outset, which seems to install i386 versions of every package, as well as x86_64. By the way, here's something: # file jackd jackd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped seems to be 64-bit whenever the two packages own the same binary (I checked a few others) -- I assume this is due to rpm install order preference, but I suppose this would make sense as most 32-bit programs, as long as they aren't frontends, should just need the 32-bit libraries but not the binaries. here's what I get when I try to remove jack.i386 Removing: jack-audio-connection-kit i386 0.103.0-0.2.1015.svn.fc7.ccrma installed 1.2 M Removing for dependencies: amarok i386 1.4.5-4.fc7 installed 31 M arts i386 8:1.5.6-4.fc7 installed 4.1 M digikam i386 0.9.1-3.fc7 installed 16 M jack-audio-connection-kit-devel i386 0.102.20-4.fc7 installed 1.0 M kaffeine i386 0.8.3-4.fc7 installed 5.4 M kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.6-3.fc7 installed 12 M kdebase i386 6:3.5.6-12.fc7 installed 54 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.6-3.fc7 installed 22 M kdelibs i386 6:3.5.6-9.fc7 installed 44 M kdemultimedia i386 6:3.5.6-7.fc7 installed 20 M kdenetwork i386 7:3.5.6-5.fc7 installed 31 M kdepim i386 6:3.5.6-4.fc7 installed 51 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.6-3.fc7 installed 10 M kdnssd-avahi i386 0.1.3-0.1.20060713svn.fc6 installed 114 k kipi-plugins i386 0.1.3-5.fc7 installed 14 M libkexiv2 i386 0.1.5-1.fc7 installed 151 k libkipi i386 0.1.5-1.fc7 installed 366 k On 6/14/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 22:29 -0400, Matt Barber wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying out ccrma x86_64 on FC7. I am having trouble with > > dependencies updating certain packages because there are both i386 and > > x86_64 packages installed. For instance, trying to install > > planetccrma-core, I get > > > > > > Transaction Check Error: > > file /etc/security/limits.conf from install of > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > > file /usr/share/man/man5/namespace.conf.5.gz from install of > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > > file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_namespace.8.gz from install of > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 file /usr/share/man/man8/pam_selinux.8.gz from > > install of pam-0.99.7.1-5.1.fc7.ccrma conflicts with file from package > > pam-0.99.7.1-5.fc7 > > > > > > However, "yum update pam" works on its own, since both i386 and x86_64 > > versions get updated from planetccrma (I'm assuming this is because > > installing the x86_64 planetccrma-core will only depend on the same > > architecture's pam). > > Yes, that's probably correct. I'll modify (if possible) the dependencies > in planetccrma-core to take this into account, that is require both > architectures in the Requires:. I don't know if rpm accepts that at > all. > > > Also, jack-audio-connection-kit has the same problem: > > That one is a surprise... > > > Transaction Check Error: > > file /usr/share/man/man1/jackd.1.gz from install of > > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.107.2-0.1.1050.svn.fc7.ccrma conflicts > > with file from package jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7 > > > > which I assume is due to: > > > > # rpm -qa --queryformat %-{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}"\n" > > jack-audio-connection-kit > > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.i386 > > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.102.20-4.fc7.x86_64 > > > > > > and it seems planetccrma only has the x86_64 version on hand. > > Correct, I did not know that it was built for both architectures _and_ > installed by default. I wonder what requires the i386 version? > > Could you do, for example: > > yum remove jack-audio-connection-kit.i386 > > and of course say "n" when asked... but note down which packages are > going to be erased if you remove that guy? > > (later: looks like arts.i386 and fluidsynth-libs.i386 are the only ones > requiring a i386 version...) > > > What's > > the best way to avoid this type of conflict? Also, being new to the > > 64-bit world, how does it work to have two packages own /usr/bin/jackd > > -- is it a 64-bit or a 32-bit binary, or does it just depend upon > > which library it is using at the time? Does it matter which gets > > updated first? I'm assuming the i386 version should indeed be there > > at all. > > Hmmm, I don't have an answer to that. > > I had imagined that multiarchitecture packages, when installed together, > would not share binaries, after all that's what multiple architectures > are for. I'll try to learn more about this... > > -- Fernando > > > From j_hearon@hotmail.com Thu Jun 14 13:55:02 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Thu Jun 14 12:55:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how does one completely remove planetCCRMA, and delete the kernel(s)? In-Reply-To: <20070614190004.21432.89559.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hi, I could not find info on how to completely uninstall planetCCRMA, in order to begin again with a clean slate. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 14 14:11:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 14 13:11:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] how does one completely remove planetCCRMA, and delete the kernel(s)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1181851829.19188.20.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 19:54 +0000, James Hearon wrote: > > Hi, > I could not find info on how to completely uninstall planetCCRMA, in order > to begin again with a clean slate. Thanks. Hmmm, I don't have a guide for that. You should reboot into a normal fedora kernel first (so that you can erase the Planet CCRMA kernels if you need to). Then you could list all the packages that Planet CCRMA installed (this will list them to the screen and write a "allpackages" file to the current directory): rpm -q -a | grep ccrma | tee allpackages You cannot just erase them blindly. I would leave the pam packages untouched (the Planet CCRMA "upgrade" only modifies /etc/security/limits.conf). I can't think of anything else you should not erase... You can also get a list of "requirements" by doing: rpm -q --requires planetccrma-core and rpm -q --requires planetccrma-apps Why is it you want to start from scratch? Is this the osc problem? -- Fernando From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Fri Jun 15 05:14:03 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Fri Jun 15 04:14:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Freebob jackd problem on Fedora 7-planetccrma RT kernel In-Reply-To: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <11070521.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <11137334.post@talk.nabble.com> Switching back to FC6 solved the problem...now jack/freebob works fine with my EDIROL FA 101 red box... Now that i think about that...maybe i attempetd installing CCRMA RT kernel and all packages for FC6 on a Fedora7..maybe the problem was all there! Greetings from Napoli Fabrizio -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebob-jackd-problem-on-Fedora-7-planetccrma-RT-kernel-tf3904647.html#a11137334 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From j_hearon@hotmail.com Fri Jun 15 11:32:01 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Fri Jun 15 10:32:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Fedora Core 7 SELinux In-Reply-To: <20070614190004.21432.89559.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Tried Fedora Core 7, Kernel for i386, planet apps. Getting some new error re: SELinux and lib text relocation I don't quite understand. thanks. Summary SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/hydrogen from loading /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so which requires text relocation. Detailed Description The /usr/bin/hydrogen application attempted to load /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so which requires text relocation. This is a potential security problem. Most libraries do not need this permission. Libraries are sometimes coded incorrectly and request this permission. The http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html web page explains how to remove this requirement. You can configure SELinux temporarily to allow /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so to use relocation as a workaround, until the library is fixed. Please file a http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi against this package. Allowing Access If you trust /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so to run correctly, you can change the file context to textrel_shlib_t. "chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so" The following command will allow this access: chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so Additional Information Source Context user_u:system_r:unconfined_t Target Context system_u:object_r:lib_t Target Objects /usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so [ file ] Affected RPM Packages hydrogen-0.9.3-1.fc7.ccrma [application]ladspa- swh-plugins-0.4.15-8.fc7 [target] Policy RPM selinux-policy-2.6.4-12.fc7 Selinux Enabled True Policy Type targeted MLS Enabled True Enforcing Mode Enforcing Plugin Name plugins.allow_execmod Host Name localhost.localdomain Platform Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.21-0182.rt14.1.fc7.ccrmart #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Jun 14 17:03:51 EDT 2007 i686 i686 Alert Count 3 First Seen Fri 15 Jun 2007 07:13:16 AM HST Last Seen Fri 15 Jun 2007 07:21:18 AM HST Local ID 942a2a23-2121-4d01-8fee-ce0ca65783ff Line Numbers Raw Audit Messages avc: denied { execmod } for comm="hydrogen" dev=dm-0 egid=500 euid=500 exe="/usr/bin/hydrogen" exit=-13 fsgid=500 fsuid=500 gid=500 items=0 name="sc4m_1916.so" path="/usr/lib/ladspa/sc4m_1916.so" pid=3901 scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 sgid=500 subj=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 suid=500 tclass=file tcontext=system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0 tty=(none) uid=500 _________________________________________________________________ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 From flaks@bnl.gov Fri Jun 15 12:29:02 2007 From: flaks@bnl.gov (Leonid Flaks) Date: Fri Jun 15 11:29:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 Message-ID: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> I installed openmotif-2.3.0-0.3.fc7.ccrma on fedora 7 recently. The library files are installed under /opt/openmotif directory tree. Postinstall script runs ldconfig, but it would not go into openmotif directory. As a result applications don't see openmotif libraries. To fix that I made a file /etc/ld.so.conf.d/openmotif.conf with one line in it: /opt/openmotif/usr/lib, which solves the problem. Could this (or similar) fix be applied to the rpm? Thanks, Leon --- Leonid Flaks Phone: 631-344-2682 Fax: 631-344-6288 From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Fri Jun 15 12:35:03 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Fri Jun 15 11:35:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Jack/Freebob on Fedora Core 7 Message-ID: <11145070.post@talk.nabble.com> Did anyone tested it successfully? If so could you describe your system setup? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Jack-Freebob-on-Fedora-Core-7-tf3929559.html#a11145070 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From abstracttoolkit@gmail.com Fri Jun 15 12:41:02 2007 From: abstracttoolkit@gmail.com (METAMATIC) Date: Fri Jun 15 11:41:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Native Instruments Komplete 3 & Reason under Fedora 7 In-Reply-To: <5c3e8b1b0706081312k795e5e8mfb187ef4d664610@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c3e8b1b0706081312k795e5e8mfb187ef4d664610@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11145077.post@talk.nabble.com> have you considered wineAsio? Maybe Reaper+wineAsio is the most sable VST hosting solution currently available. Also vsthost (dssi vst) is quite stable for Reaktor. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Native-Instruments-Komplete-3---Reason-under-Fedora-7-tf3891914.html#a11145077 Sent from the PlanetCCRMA - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 15 12:44:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 15 11:44:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 In-Reply-To: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> References: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> Message-ID: <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 11:09 -0400, Leonid Flaks wrote: > I installed openmotif-2.3.0-0.3.fc7.ccrma on fedora 7 recently. The > library files are installed under /opt/openmotif directory tree. > Postinstall script runs ldconfig, but it would not go into openmotif > directory. As a result applications don't see openmotif libraries. To > fix that I made a file /etc/ld.so.conf.d/openmotif.conf with one line in > it: /opt/openmotif/usr/lib, which solves the problem. > > Could this (or similar) fix be applied to the rpm? I don't know, the problem is that for legal reasons openmotif was dropped from Fedora and lesstif conflicts with it. I don't think you can install lesstif and motif at the same time, and most probably installing a package that includes a library search order by default will conflict and/or break existing lesstif apps (I have not tested that) - either now or in the future if the library so names match. (BTW, just now I'm in the process of releasing a version for fc6 that does the same). In the only app in Planet CCRMA that uses openmotif (snd) I'm using this during the build process: export LDFLAGS='-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/openmotif%{_prefix}/%{_lib} so that the proper libraries are found at run time (snd is the only reason I'm packaging openmotif, I wouldn't otherwise). The proper thing to do would be to try to make both lesstif and openmotif coexist appropriately - alas, time is short and at some point I have to say enough and go with a hack... sorry :-( -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 15 13:06:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 15 12:06:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 In-Reply-To: <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181934335.23178.28.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 11:43 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 11:09 -0400, Leonid Flaks wrote: > > I installed openmotif-2.3.0-0.3.fc7.ccrma on fedora 7 recently. The > > library files are installed under /opt/openmotif directory tree. > > Postinstall script runs ldconfig, but it would not go into openmotif > > directory. [that's a bug in packaging, I guess] > > As a result applications don't see openmotif libraries. To > > fix that I made a file /etc/ld.so.conf.d/openmotif.conf with one line in > > it: /opt/openmotif/usr/lib, which solves the problem. > > > > Could this (or similar) fix be applied to the rpm? > > I don't know, the problem is that for legal reasons openmotif was > dropped from Fedora and lesstif conflicts with it. I don't think you can > install lesstif and motif at the same time, and most probably installing > a package that includes a library search order by default will conflict > and/or break existing lesstif apps (I have not tested that) - either now > or in the future if the library so names match. I just checked and at least currently in fc7 the so versions don't match (between lesstif and openmotif) so it would be possible to add an extra loader path. Anyone out there sees a problem with doing this? [BTW, which applications are you using/building that need openmotif?] -- Fernando From Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr Fri Jun 15 13:29:06 2007 From: Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr (Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale) Date: Fri Jun 15 12:29:06 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 In-Reply-To: <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano's message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:43:43 -0700") References: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano writes: > The proper thing to do would be to try to make both lesstif and > openmotif coexist appropriately - alas, time is short and at some point > I have to say enough and go with a hack... sorry :-( You could probably use the openmotif package from RHEL5/CentOS5 (I didn't try). -- Arnaud From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 15 13:50:19 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 15 12:50:19 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/7: kernel-rt packages, traverso; fc6: openmotif/snd Message-ID: <1181936905.23178.43.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Hiya... some updates and new packages... fc6/7: new kernel-rt packages including 2.6.21.5 plus rt14, the latest and greatest from Ingo. [NOTE: on fc6 I have included a i586 build without doing any tests, if somebody is in that situation (needs i586 kernels) please test and report... thanks...] fc6/7: initial packages for traverso, a "free, cross platform multitrack audio recording and editing suite, with an innovative and easy to master User Interface" (_not_ tested on x86_64) fc6: new openmotif packages and matching snd 9.1 packages. The openmotif packages install now in /opt so that they can be completely independent from a lesstif installation (long story)[*] Enjoy! -- Fernando [*] note: currently there is no default linker path to the openmotif libraries, if you build packages against openmotif you will need an ld incantation so that they can be found at run time. From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 15 15:51:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 15 14:51:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 In-Reply-To: References: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1181944241.23178.52.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 21:28 +0200, Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale wrote: > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano writes: > > > The proper thing to do would be to try to make both lesstif and > > openmotif coexist appropriately - alas, time is short and at some point > > I have to say enough and go with a hack... sorry :-( > > You could probably use the openmotif package from RHEL5/CentOS5 (I > didn't try). Arghh, didn't notice that one! Thanks for the pointer! I'll definitely take a look next time I release a snd package, if not earlier. If it is a good package and compatible with lesstif (both can be installed side by side) I may switch to it. -- Fernando From Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr Fri Jun 15 16:24:00 2007 From: Arnaud.Gomes@ircam.fr (Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale) Date: Fri Jun 15 15:24:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif rpm for f7 In-Reply-To: <1181944241.23178.52.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano's message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:50:41 -0700") References: <4672AB91.1030809@bnl.gov> <1181933023.23178.19.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1181944241.23178.52.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano writes: > I'll definitely take a look next time I release a snd package, if not > earlier. If it is a good package and compatible with lesstif (both can > be installed side by side) I may switch to it. Both can definitely be installed side by side (at least with the lesstif package I use on my CentOS5 boxes, I think I grabbed it from Fedora). I don't know about good, never used it myself. ;-) -- Arnaud From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 15 19:33:06 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 15 18:33:06 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall Message-ID: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> A couple more notes and I'm done for the day... fc6/7: added Sonic Visualiser to the repository (with the matching vamp-plugin-sdk packages - thanks to Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale for proper spec files and patches to make this work!) fc6/7 i386 only: updated CLAM to version 1.1.0 (and its friends clam-smstools to 0.4.8, clam-annotator to 0.3.9 and clam-networkeditor to 1.1.0) fc7: jack svn 0.107.2[*] has been recalled due to product safety considerations :-) I've found this version to be very finicky with regards to kicking clients out of the graph. It does a very thorough job, so thorough that the whole thing dies, clients and server included. So I've removed those packages from the repo till I can sort this out. If you are having problems I suggest you downgrade to 0.103.0... sigh... life on the bleeding edge. Enjoy! -- Fernando [*] I had upgraded to fix the cmove problem some C3 users were experiencing... From hcengar@gmail.com Fri Jun 15 20:23:02 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Jun 15 19:23:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall In-Reply-To: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706151922h665b68ddnc7b8702f1e7bebd9@mail.gmail.com> > fc7: jack svn 0.107.2[*] has been recalled due to product safety > considerations :-) I've found this version to be very finicky with > regards to kicking clients out of the graph. It does a very thorough > job, so thorough that the whole thing dies, clients and server included. > So I've removed those packages from the repo till I can sort this out. > If you are having problems I suggest you downgrade to 0.103.0... sigh... > life on the bleeding edge. Is this why Audacity is segfaulting when using Jack? How do I make yum to downgrade a package? Cheers! Hector -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From hcengar@gmail.com Fri Jun 15 20:42:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Jun 15 19:42:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706151922h665b68ddnc7b8702f1e7bebd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706151922h665b68ddnc7b8702f1e7bebd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <695e1a650706151941y7506eff6l27314c0d030de334@mail.gmail.com> ok, I found how to donwgrade (using first rpm -e --nodeps to remove the installed version then install jack with yum) and that did solve the problem with Audacity. Cheers! Hector On 6/15/07, Hector Centeno wrote: > > fc7: jack svn 0.107.2[*] has been recalled due to product safety > > considerations :-) I've found this version to be very finicky with > > regards to kicking clients out of the graph. It does a very thorough > > job, so thorough that the whole thing dies, clients and server included. > > So I've removed those packages from the repo till I can sort this out. > > If you are having problems I suggest you downgrade to 0.103.0... sigh... > > life on the bleeding edge. > > Is this why Audacity is segfaulting when using Jack? How do I make yum > to downgrade a package? > > Cheers! > > Hector > > > > -- > =============================== > http://www.hcenteno.net > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From christoph.t@gmail.com Sat Jun 16 03:30:05 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Valenciennes represents!!) Date: Sat Jun 16 02:30:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Two sound cards In-Reply-To: <351027268e50b3cbb97ee8c478119ba5@optonline.net> References: <9fe2dd12cb5a93a341c6cfcc130df337@optonline.net> <351027268e50b3cbb97ee8c478119ba5@optonline.net> Message-ID: 2007/6/11, John Dey : > Christophe, > > Thanks for your response. system-configure-soundcard only shows one > sound card. The one that is active. How do I get it to show both? > > John > > What do you mean with the one that is active? Can you see the usb card sometimes? Usually s-c-soundcard displays all the recognized cards, if both are plugged and active you should see them, and then assign priorities beetween them. -- Christophe T From brbrofsvl@gmail.com Sat Jun 16 10:03:03 2007 From: brbrofsvl@gmail.com (Matt Barber) Date: Sat Jun 16 09:03:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall In-Reply-To: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hello, When I run sonic-visualiser, I get this line: sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: libfishsound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory This is fc7 i386. Haven't tested on fc6 or fc7.x86_64. Thanks, Matt On 6/15/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > A couple more notes and I'm done for the day... > > fc6/7: added Sonic Visualiser to the repository (with the matching > vamp-plugin-sdk packages - thanks to Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale for proper > spec files and patches to make this work!) > > fc6/7 i386 only: updated CLAM to version 1.1.0 (and its friends > clam-smstools to 0.4.8, clam-annotator to 0.3.9 and clam-networkeditor > to 1.1.0) > > fc7: jack svn 0.107.2[*] has been recalled due to product safety > considerations :-) I've found this version to be very finicky with > regards to kicking clients out of the graph. It does a very thorough > job, so thorough that the whole thing dies, clients and server included. > So I've removed those packages from the repo till I can sort this out. > If you are having problems I suggest you downgrade to 0.103.0... sigh... > life on the bleeding edge. > > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > [*] I had upgraded to fix the cmove problem some C3 users were > experiencing... > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMANews mailing list > PlanetCCRMANews@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrmanews > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jun 16 12:08:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jun 16 11:08:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall In-Reply-To: References: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1182017221.26384.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 12:02 -0400, Matt Barber wrote: > Hello, > > When I run sonic-visualiser, I get this line: > > sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: > libfishsound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory > > This is fc7 i386. Haven't tested on fc6 or fc7.x86_64. Aw, rats, bad packager, no cookie! :-) I've released those, sorry about the problem... -- Fernando > On 6/15/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > A couple more notes and I'm done for the day... > > > > fc6/7: added Sonic Visualiser to the repository (with the matching > > vamp-plugin-sdk packages - thanks to Arnaud Gomes-do-Vale for proper > > spec files and patches to make this work!) > > > > fc6/7 i386 only: updated CLAM to version 1.1.0 (and its friends > > clam-smstools to 0.4.8, clam-annotator to 0.3.9 and clam-networkeditor > > to 1.1.0) From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jun 16 12:09:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jun 16 11:09:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/7: sonic visualiser, clam 1.1.0 and friends; fc7 jack recall In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706151941y7506eff6l27314c0d030de334@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181957476.23178.83.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706151922h665b68ddnc7b8702f1e7bebd9@mail.gmail.com> <695e1a650706151941y7506eff6l27314c0d030de334@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182017283.26384.3.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 22:41 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > ok, I found how to donwgrade (using first rpm -e --nodeps to remove > the installed version then install jack with yum) Yes, that's one way of "downgrading", should have posted more details... > and that did solve the problem with Audacity. Glad to hear that. -- Fernando > On 6/15/07, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > fc7: jack svn 0.107.2[*] has been recalled due to product safety > > > considerations :-) I've found this version to be very finicky with > > > regards to kicking clients out of the graph. It does a very thorough > > > job, so thorough that the whole thing dies, clients and server included. > > > So I've removed those packages from the repo till I can sort this out. > > > If you are having problems I suggest you downgrade to 0.103.0... sigh... > > > life on the bleeding edge. > > > > Is this why Audacity is segfaulting when using Jack? How do I make yum > > to downgrade a package? > > > > Cheers! > > > > Hector > > > > > > > > -- > > =============================== > > http://www.hcenteno.net > > > > From hcengar@gmail.com Mon Jun 18 23:13:00 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Mon Jun 18 22:13:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Bristol and F7 Message-ID: <695e1a650706182212x19f7586dkb0a67f35cd6ba8d5@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I was testing Bristol under Fedora 7 and I found that many of the synths are not working at all (for example: mixer, hammond, obx) and seem to be not sounding properly (like B3, juno) Is this a known problem or is it just me? I'm starting them using the shortcuts in the menu installed by the packages at CCRMA. Thanks! Hector -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 19 10:15:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 19 09:15:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Bristol and F7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706182212x19f7586dkb0a67f35cd6ba8d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706182212x19f7586dkb0a67f35cd6ba8d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182269669.25101.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 01:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hello, > > I was testing Bristol under Fedora 7 and I found that many of the > synths are not working at all (for example: mixer, hammond, obx) and > seem to be not sounding properly (like B3, juno) Is this a known > problem or is it just me? I'm starting them using the shortcuts in the > menu installed by the packages at CCRMA. The shortcuts in the menu are very few (3 of them if I remember correctly), those appear to at least start in my limited tests. Some of the other synths that you mention (there are many, do a "startBristol" from a terminal to see them all) don't work for me either. I don't know if it is a bug or a problem with the build. -- Fernando From hcengar@gmail.com Tue Jun 19 12:28:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Tue Jun 19 11:28:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Bristol and F7 In-Reply-To: <1182269669.25101.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <695e1a650706182212x19f7586dkb0a67f35cd6ba8d5@mail.gmail.com> <1182269669.25101.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <695e1a650706191127y295e0b9ag95d3370e597c7195@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Fernando, I found the shortcut packages for the other synths in the CCRMA repository by manually searching for bristol. There are many of them but planetccrma-apps only installs two. Cheers! Hector On 6/19/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 01:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was testing Bristol under Fedora 7 and I found that many of the > > synths are not working at all (for example: mixer, hammond, obx) and > > seem to be not sounding properly (like B3, juno) Is this a known > > problem or is it just me? I'm starting them using the shortcuts in the > > menu installed by the packages at CCRMA. > > The shortcuts in the menu are very few (3 of them if I remember > correctly), those appear to at least start in my limited tests. Some of > the other synths that you mention (there are many, do a "startBristol" > from a terminal to see them all) don't work for me either. I don't know > if it is a bug or a problem with the build. > > -- Fernando > > > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 19 13:00:02 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 19 12:00:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Bristol and F7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706191127y295e0b9ag95d3370e597c7195@mail.gmail.com> References: <695e1a650706182212x19f7586dkb0a67f35cd6ba8d5@mail.gmail.com> <1182269669.25101.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <695e1a650706191127y295e0b9ag95d3370e597c7195@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182279576.25101.32.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 14:27 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > Thanks Fernando, > > I found the shortcut packages for the other synths in the CCRMA > repository by manually searching for bristol. There are many of them > but planetccrma-apps only installs two. Yes... I remember now. I only installed by default the ones I had briefly tested. Maybe I should not have released the others... -- Fernando > On 6/19/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 01:12 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I was testing Bristol under Fedora 7 and I found that many of the > > > synths are not working at all (for example: mixer, hammond, obx) and > > > seem to be not sounding properly (like B3, juno) Is this a known > > > problem or is it just me? I'm starting them using the shortcuts in the > > > menu installed by the packages at CCRMA. > > > > The shortcuts in the menu are very few (3 of them if I remember > > correctly), those appear to at least start in my limited tests. Some of > > the other synths that you mention (there are many, do a "startBristol" > > from a terminal to see them all) don't work for me either. I don't know > > if it is a bug or a problem with the build. From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 19 16:16:22 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 19 15:16:22 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6/fc7: YAK!! and jackmixer Message-ID: <1182291268.25101.40.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> YAK!! (Yet Another Kernel...). Oh well, a new realtime preemption kernel for fc6 and fc7. Based on 2.6.21.5-rt17 (package version is 2.6.21-0182.rt17.1), it fixes a problem with some BUG traces I was getting on our hardware with the skge ethernet adaptor, most probably solves equivalent problems on other drivers as well. As usual, thanks to Ingo for his work! Updated JackMix to version 0.3.1 on fc6 and fc7. Enjoy! -- Fernando From schmoo@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 20 11:33:01 2007 From: schmoo@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Longland-Meech) Date: Wed Jun 20 10:33:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] fc6/fc7: YAK!! and jackmixer In-Reply-To: <1182291268.25101.40.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1182291268.25101.40.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1182340959.2585.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all! Fernando, how do I get all these new goodies (kernels, etc) you've released recently? They are not showing up in Yumex or command-line yum at all. I only get the standard Fedora kernels showing as new. Do I need to to enable/disable repositories or is there an updated repos listing I should have? I'm on fc6 by the way. Regards Andrew On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:14 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > YAK!! (Yet Another Kernel...). Oh well, a new realtime preemption kernel > for fc6 and fc7. Based on 2.6.21.5-rt17 (package version is > 2.6.21-0182.rt17.1), it fixes a problem with some BUG traces I was > getting on our hardware with the skge ethernet adaptor, most probably > solves equivalent problems on other drivers as well. As usual, thanks to > Ingo for his work! > > Updated JackMix to version 0.3.1 on fc6 and fc7. > > Enjoy! > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMANews mailing list > PlanetCCRMANews@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrmanews From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Wed Jun 20 11:56:00 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Wed Jun 20 10:56:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] fc6/fc7: YAK!! and jackmixer In-Reply-To: <1182340959.2585.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1182291268.25101.40.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1182340959.2585.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1182362141.29348.15.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 13:02 +0100, Andrew Longland-Meech wrote: > Hi all! > > Fernando, how do I get all these new goodies (kernels, etc) you've > released recently? They are not showing up in Yumex or command-line yum > at all. I only get the standard Fedora kernels showing as new. Do I need > to to enable/disable repositories or is there an updated repos listing I > should have? I'm on fc6 by the way. They should show up automagically if you have the Planet CCRMA repositories properly set up in yum. Do you have the "planetccrma-repo" package installed? What do you see in /etc/yum.repos.d/? The metadata is not reread every time you invoque yum, there is a holding time defined in /etc/yum.conf, I think the default is 3600 seconds (which means repos will not be reread if they have been read within the last 3600 seconds). -- Fernando > Andrew > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:14 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > YAK!! (Yet Another Kernel...). Oh well, a new realtime preemption kernel > > for fc6 and fc7. Based on 2.6.21.5-rt17 (package version is > > 2.6.21-0182.rt17.1), it fixes a problem with some BUG traces I was > > getting on our hardware with the skge ethernet adaptor, most probably > > solves equivalent problems on other drivers as well. As usual, thanks to > > Ingo for his work! > > > > Updated JackMix to version 0.3.1 on fc6 and fc7. > > > > Enjoy! From jsegel@magneticmotorworks.com Wed Jun 20 15:54:00 2007 From: jsegel@magneticmotorworks.com (Jonathan Segel) Date: Wed Jun 20 14:54:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] fc6/fc7: YAK!! and In-Reply-To: <20070620190004.13837.6233.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> References: <20070620190004.13837.6233.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:00 PM, planetccrma-request@ccrma.Stanford.EDU wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 13:02 +0100, Andrew Longland-Meech wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> Fernando, how do I get all these new goodies (kernels, etc) you've >> released recently? They are not showing up in Yumex or command- >> line yum >> at all. I only get the standard Fedora kernels showing as new. Do >> I need >> to to enable/disable repositories or is there an updated repos >> listing I >> should have? I'm on fc6 by the way. > > They should show up automagically if you have the Planet CCRMA > repositories properly set up in yum. Do you have the "planetccrma- > repo" > package installed? What do you see in /etc/yum.repos.d/? note, the new one may have showed up in /etc/yum.repos.d/ as planetccrma-repo.RPMnew or something that needs to be renamed. if you use command like yum updating, you might want to make a subdirectory to house the regular fedora-repos (mine is /etc/yum.repos.d/NOT/ ) > The metadata is not reread every time you invoque yum, there is a > holding time defined in /etc/yum.conf, I think the default is 3600 > seconds (which means repos will not be reread if they have been read > within the last 3600 seconds). i was having a problem with yumex in fc6, everytime it was invoked it spent a long long time recalculating meta data and such. nearly unusable unless i could wait all afternoon. fc7 seems to work better in many ways (plus the whole gnome looks nicer.) side note: supercollider works again in fc7 on the pentium3. hmm. ____________________________________________________ Jonathan Segel 4014 Brookdale Ave. Oakland, CA 94619 jsegel-magneticmotorworks.com <-----> magsatellite-yahoo.com From mr.vang@gmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:13:02 2007 From: mr.vang@gmail.com (Fredrik Vang) Date: Thu Jun 21 10:13:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] YUM chews up my karma, and spits out evil Message-ID: <5c2579fe0706211012t351e75b4wc3248aa27a52e59b@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_95169_6648086.1182445958422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline YUM's got a bad day with my CCRMA. When I try to install on FC6, yum fails after downloading certain packages, with the error message "Package does not match intended download". Am I missing something very obvious on my side, or is there something wrong on the repository side? (1/6): alsa-firmware-1.0. 100% |=========================| 3.5 MB 00:14 http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/alsa-firmware-1.0.13-1.fc6.ccrma.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download Trying other mirror. (2/6): planetccrma-core-2 100% |=========================| 4.7 kB 00:00 (3/6): rtirq-20070101-1.f 100% |=========================| 7.6 kB 00:00 (4/6): alsa-tools-1.0.13- 100% |=========================| 333 kB 00:01 (5/6): kernel-rt-2.6.21-0 100% |=========================| 16 MB 01:07 http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/kernel-rt-2.6.21-0182.rt17.1.fc6.ccrma.i686.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download Trying other mirror. (6/6): alsa-oss-1.0.12-3. 100% |=========================| 36 kB 00:08 The same thing happens when I try to install certain other packages individually (e.g. supercollider) ------=_Part_95169_6648086.1182445958422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline YUM's got a bad day with my CCRMA. When I try to install on FC6, yum fails after downloading certain packages, with the error message "Package does not match intended download" . Am I missing something very obvious on my side, or is there something wrong on the repository side?

(1/6): alsa-firmware-1.0. 100% |=========================| 3.5 MB    00:14    
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/alsa-firmware-1.0.13-1.fc6.ccrma.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download
Trying other mirror.
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(3/6): rtirq-20070101-1.f 100% |=========================| 7.6 kB    00:00    
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http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/kernel-rt-2.6.21-0182.rt17.1.fc6.ccrma.i686.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download
Trying other mirror.
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The same thing happens when I try to install certain other packages individually (e.g. supercollider)


------=_Part_95169_6648086.1182445958422-- From j_hearon@hotmail.com Thu Jun 21 11:16:02 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Thu Jun 21 10:16:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6 openmotif In-Reply-To: <20070620190004.13837.6233.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Trying to build SoXt on fc6. I downloaded the ccrma openmotif packages, but can't seem to actually find it and SoXt configure compains: checking for a Motif development environment... no configure: error: couldn't compile and link with Motif Does this have to do with some kind of licensing issue? _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 21 11:58:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 21 10:58:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] fc6 openmotif In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1182448622.1950.20.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 17:15 +0000, James Hearon wrote: > Hi, > Trying to build SoXt on fc6. I downloaded the ccrma openmotif packages, but > can't seem to actually find it and SoXt configure compains: > > checking for a Motif development environment... no > configure: error: couldn't compile and link with Motif > > Does this have to do with some kind of licensing issue? Nope, the current fc6 packages (this may change again in the future, sorry) are installed in /opt/openmotif so that they are completely separated from potential file/directory conflicts with lesstif. You will need to point your openmotif include and lib paths to the proper place (and perhaps add some incantations to add the non-standard path to the runtime linking process). -- Fernando From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 21 12:09:12 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 21 11:09:12 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] YUM chews up my karma, and spits out evil In-Reply-To: <5c2579fe0706211012t351e75b4wc3248aa27a52e59b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c2579fe0706211012t351e75b4wc3248aa27a52e59b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182449338.1950.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 19:12 +0200, Fredrik Vang wrote: > YUM's got a bad day with my CCRMA. When I try to install on FC6, yum > fails after downloading certain packages, with the error message > "Package does not match intended download". Am I missing something > very obvious on my side, or is there something wrong on the repository > side? > > (1/6): alsa-firmware-1.0. 100% |=========================| 3.5 MB > 00:14 > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/alsa-firmware-1.0.13-1.fc6.ccrma.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > Trying other mirror. > (2/6): planetccrma-core-2 100% |=========================| 4.7 kB > 00:00 > (3/6): rtirq-20070101-1.f 100% |=========================| 7.6 kB > 00:00 > (4/6): alsa-tools-1.0.13- 100% |=========================| 333 kB > 00:01 > (5/6): kernel-rt-2.6.21-0 100% |=========================| 16 MB > 01:07 > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/kernel-rt-2.6.21-0182.rt17.1.fc6.ccrma.i686.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > Trying other mirror. > (6/6): alsa-oss-1.0.12-3. 100% |=========================| 36 kB > 00:08 > > The same thing happens when I try to install certain other packages > individually (e.g. supercollider) I had not seen this error before. The repository appears to be fine, at least from here. I just did a mock install in a mach chroot (after doing a yum clean all so that everything would be downloaded again) and the install proceeded just fine. The error appears to indicate that somehow the packages were not completely downloaded or were corrupted during the download so that the checksum does not match. Is this in a new install from scratch? Have you tried installing other packages that do not come from the Planet CCRMA repo? -- Fernando From jason.russler@gmail.com Thu Jun 21 12:31:01 2007 From: jason.russler@gmail.com (Jason Russler) Date: Thu Jun 21 11:31:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] YUM chews up my karma, and spits out evil In-Reply-To: <1182449338.1950.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <5c2579fe0706211012t351e75b4wc3248aa27a52e59b@mail.gmail.com> <1182449338.1950.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <170df940706211130t2dbc5d9bu97d0b76de76456d8@mail.gmail.com> # yum clean all However, that doesn't work sometimes because, where I am, !$#@ Comcast is caching stuff somewhere and screwing up the package/checksum pairs. So nothing works unless I a) wait or b) VPN into work and then use yum (there's probably a better way of getting around the caching mechanisms but that works for me.) Could ISP caching be the culprit here? On 6/21/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 19:12 +0200, Fredrik Vang wrote: > > YUM's got a bad day with my CCRMA. When I try to install on FC6, yum > > fails after downloading certain packages, with the error message > > "Package does not match intended download". Am I missing something > > very obvious on my side, or is there something wrong on the repository > > side? > > > > (1/6): alsa-firmware-1.0. 100% |=========================| 3.5 MB > > 00:14 > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/alsa-firmware-1.0.13-1.fc6.ccrma.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > > Trying other mirror. > > (2/6): planetccrma-core-2 100% |=========================| 4.7 kB > > 00:00 > > (3/6): rtirq-20070101-1.f 100% |=========================| 7.6 kB > > 00:00 > > (4/6): alsa-tools-1.0.13- 100% |=========================| 333 kB > > 00:01 > > (5/6): kernel-rt-2.6.21-0 100% |=========================| 16 MB > > 01:07 > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/kernel-rt-2.6.21-0182.rt17.1.fc6.ccrma.i686.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > > Trying other mirror. > > (6/6): alsa-oss-1.0.12-3. 100% |=========================| 36 kB > > 00:08 > > > > The same thing happens when I try to install certain other packages > > individually (e.g. supercollider) > > I had not seen this error before. The repository appears to be fine, at > least from here. I just did a mock install in a mach chroot (after doing > a yum clean all so that everything would be downloaded again) and the > install proceeded just fine. > > The error appears to indicate that somehow the packages were not > completely downloaded or were corrupted during the download so that the > checksum does not match. > > Is this in a new install from scratch? Have you tried installing other > packages that do not come from the Planet CCRMA repo? > > -- Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 21 13:19:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 21 12:19:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] YUM chews up my karma, and spits out evil In-Reply-To: <170df940706211130t2dbc5d9bu97d0b76de76456d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c2579fe0706211012t351e75b4wc3248aa27a52e59b@mail.gmail.com> <1182449338.1950.25.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <170df940706211130t2dbc5d9bu97d0b76de76456d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182453495.1950.30.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:30 -0400, Jason Russler wrote: > # yum clean all > > However, that doesn't work sometimes because, where I am, !$#@ Comcast > is caching stuff somewhere and screwing up the package/checksum pairs. > So nothing works unless I a) wait or b) VPN into work and then use > yum (there's probably a better way of getting around the caching > mechanisms but that works for me.) Could ISP caching be the culprit > here? I guess that could be a problem if different file types are cached for different amount of time, then you could get inconsistent results for the downloads. -- Fernando > On 6/21/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 19:12 +0200, Fredrik Vang wrote: > > > YUM's got a bad day with my CCRMA. When I try to install on FC6, yum > > > fails after downloading certain packages, with the error message > > > "Package does not match intended download". Am I missing something > > > very obvious on my side, or is there something wrong on the repository > > > side? > > > > > > (1/6): alsa-firmware-1.0. 100% |=========================| 3.5 MB > > > 00:14 > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/alsa-firmware-1.0.13-1.fc6.ccrma.i386.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > > > Trying other mirror. > > > (2/6): planetccrma-core-2 100% |=========================| 4.7 kB > > > 00:00 > > > (3/6): rtirq-20070101-1.f 100% |=========================| 7.6 kB > > > 00:00 > > > (4/6): alsa-tools-1.0.13- 100% |=========================| 333 kB > > > 00:01 > > > (5/6): kernel-rt-2.6.21-0 100% |=========================| 16 MB > > > 01:07 > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/6/i386/kernel-rt-2.6.21-0182.rt17.1.fc6.ccrma.i686.rpm: [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download > > > Trying other mirror. > > > (6/6): alsa-oss-1.0.12-3. 100% |=========================| 36 kB > > > 00:08 > > > > > > The same thing happens when I try to install certain other packages > > > individually (e.g. supercollider) > > > > I had not seen this error before. The repository appears to be fine, at > > least from here. I just did a mock install in a mach chroot (after doing > > a yum clean all so that everything would be downloaded again) and the > > install proceeded just fine. > > > > The error appears to indicate that somehow the packages were not > > completely downloaded or were corrupted during the download so that the > > checksum does not match. > > > > Is this in a new install from scratch? Have you tried installing other > > packages that do not come from the Planet CCRMA repo? > > From andrew@longland-meech.me.uk Thu Jun 21 13:42:01 2007 From: andrew@longland-meech.me.uk (Andrew Longland-Meech) Date: Thu Jun 21 12:42:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Re: 'Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] fc6/fc7: YAK!! and' SOLVED Message-ID: <1182454886.3593.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks Fernando and Jonathan I've sorted it out. May try upgrading to Fedora 7 - I must be a glutton for punishment! Regards Andrew From j_hearon@hotmail.com Thu Jun 21 22:32:01 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Thu Jun 21 21:32:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] openmotif In-Reply-To: <20070621190006.12248.49064.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: O.K. Thanks for info on install whereabouts of openmotif. SoXt builds with lesstif, but I doubled back and used openmotif in case there are problems down the road. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm From cduneau@yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 16:13:02 2007 From: cduneau@yahoo.com (Cyrill) Date: Sat Jun 23 15:13:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd doesn't appear in planetccrma menu? Message-ID: <227615.82838.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-487380579-1182636721=:82838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi a newbie question again, i'm afraid... i'm running planetccrma installed on fedora7, puredata is installed as it runs normally when launched from a terminal, but it doesn't appear in the planetccrma applications menu? Is it normal, and if not, what is the way to repair this (not really boring) problem? thanks, Cyrill --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. --0-487380579-1182636721=:82838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi

a newbie question again, i'm afraid...

i'm running planetccrma installed on fedora7, puredata is installed as it runs normally when launched from a terminal, but it doesn't appear in the planetccrma applications menu? Is it normal, and if not, what is the way to repair this (not really boring) problem?
thanks,

Cyrill

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(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. --0-487380579-1182636721=:82838-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Sat Jun 23 16:26:00 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Sat Jun 23 15:26:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd doesn't appear in planetccrma menu? In-Reply-To: <227615.82838.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <227615.82838.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2007/6/24, Cyrill : > hi > > a newbie question again, i'm afraid... > > i'm running planetccrma installed on fedora7, puredata is installed as it > runs normally when launched from a terminal, but it doesn't appear in the > planetccrma applications menu? Is it normal, and if not, what is the way to > repair this (not really boring) problem? > thanks, > > Cyrill > Well don't be afraid, it's very easy to manually edit the menu of gnome or Kde. If you use Kde, right clic in the menu > edit, and there you can create where you want new entries, call it like you want, attribute the command you want to launch and even an icon if you want. With gnome I don't know exactly but there is somewhere (look into administration or configuration or something tools) an utility that allows you to edit the menu approximatively the same way. Or you can create a personalized launcher on your desktop or your dock (right click on the dock > add to panel...) Regards -- Christophe T From j_hearon@hotmail.com Sun Jun 24 23:50:02 2007 From: j_hearon@hotmail.com (James Hearon) Date: Sun Jun 24 22:50:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Pd OSC fc6 In-Reply-To: <20070624190004.5460.91180.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Still stuck on getting osc objects to be recognized. I posted a note on the Pd list and got a reply to use netstat to possibly check on conflicting ports, but since the osc patch doesn't work neither does the connect message to establish a port. I'm using the package i386 for fc6 pd-0.39.2-3.cvs.06.11.20.fc6.ccrma with pd-oscx-0.39.2-3.cvs.06.11.20.fc6.ccrma when starting pd using the verbose flag I can see it finds the osc meta file, but fails on recognizing the lib: $pd -lib oscx -verbose input channels = 2, output channels = 2 opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). input channels = 2, output channels = 2 opened /dev/dsp for reading and writing opened audio output on /dev/dsp\; got 2 channels bytes per sample = 2 setting nfrags = 8, fragsize 1024 audiobuffer set to 50 msec opened audio input device /dev/dsp\; got 2 channels bytes per sample = 2 tried /home/JCH/oscx.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx.pd_linux and failed tried /home/JCH/oscx/oscx.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/oscx.pd_linux and failed tried /home/JCH/oscx/oscx.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/oscx.pd and succeeded Added to search path: /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx Added to help path: /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx Added to help path: /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx Loaded libdir oscx from /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx But then when I open the sendOSC-help.pd from the pd menu I get only failures on trying to load the meta file or the lib: tried /usr/lib/pd//doc/5.reference/oscx/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd//doc/5.reference/oscx/OSC/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/OSC/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/OSC/OSC.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd//doc/5.reference/oscx/OSC.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/OSC.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/OSC.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd//doc/5.reference/oscx/OSC.pat and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/OSC.pat and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/OSC.pat and failed OSC ... couldn't create I've also tried creating a new pd patch using import oscx as an object. Other extra libs in the package seem to work. Also I did get liblo with the planetCCRMA distro too. I'm still stumped? ========= _________________________________________________________________ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3 From ingarmo@hotmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:09:02 2007 From: ingarmo@hotmail.com (Ingar Mo) Date: Mon Jun 25 05:09:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarden Message-ID: --_f53e92b3-dc51-4a7d-90f4-efaddbfa5f9c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks! =20 Firstly, I must give great thanks and honour to Fernando for his wonderful = work and effort to have such a thing as PlanetCCRMA and software for us lin= ux-musicians! Great job!! =20 I recently upgraded to FC7 (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) - and = downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from planetccrma-repository. I = noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time... =20 Question: Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile it m= yself? =20 =20 Regards, Ingar= --_f53e92b3-dc51-4a7d-90f4-efaddbfa5f9c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks!
 
Firstly, I must give great thanks and honour to Fernando for his wonderful = work and effort to have such a thing as PlanetCCRMA and software for us lin= ux-musicians! Great job!!
 
I recently upgraded to FC7  (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) -= and downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from planetccrma-repositor= y. I noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time...=
 
Question:  Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile= it myself?
 
 
Regards,
Ingar
= --_f53e92b3-dc51-4a7d-90f4-efaddbfa5f9c_-- From drumkid@gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:18:03 2007 From: drumkid@gmail.com (drumkid@gmail.com) Date: Mon Jun 25 05:18:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ------=_Part_1304_14622719.1182773873323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found Rosegarden is already part of the standard FC7 distribution and worked together with the PlanteCCRMA suite out of the box. Hope this helps, -- Henk On 6/25/07, Ingar Mo wrote: > > Hi folks! > > Firstly, I must give great thanks and honour to Fernando for his wonderful > work and effort to have such a thing as PlanetCCRMA and software for us > linux-musicians! Great job!! > > I recently upgraded to FC7 (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) - and > downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from planetccrma-repository. I > noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time... > > Question: Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile it > myself? > > > Regards, > Ingar > ------=_Part_1304_14622719.1182773873323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found Rosegarden is already part of the standard FC7 distribution and worked together with the PlanteCCRMA suite out of the box.

Hope this helps,

-- Henk

On 6/25/07, Ingar Mo <ingarmo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks!
 
Firstly, I must give great thanks and honour to Fernando for his wonderful work and effort to have such a thing as PlanetCCRMA and software for us linux-musicians! Great job!!
 
I recently upgraded to FC7  (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) - and downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from planetccrma-repository. I noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time...
 
Question:  Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile it myself?
 
 
Regards,
Ingar

------=_Part_1304_14622719.1182773873323-- From christoph.t@gmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:26:02 2007 From: christoph.t@gmail.com (Christophe T) Date: Mon Jun 25 05:26:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2007/6/25, Ingar Mo : > I recently upgraded to FC7 (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) - and > downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from planetccrma-repository. I > noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time... > > Question: Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile it > myself? > > > Regards, > Ingar > The package "rosegarden4" is available on the "fedora" repository. "yum install rosegarden4" Regards -- Christophe T From ingarmo@hotmail.com Mon Jun 25 06:35:02 2007 From: ingarmo@hotmail.com (Ingar Mo) Date: Mon Jun 25 05:35:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarden Message-ID: --_ce87b1c1-e92c-409b-be30-e0c048cc1995_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, that's good to hear.... thanks a lot for your help and lightning fast r= eply!! (I really didn't think "that far"; that Fedora would include Rosegarden fro= m their own repository..... silly me ) =20 -Ingar =20 > From: christoph.t@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarde= n> CC: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:24:59 +020= 0> > 2007/6/25, Ingar Mo :> > I recently upgraded to FC= 7 (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) - and> > downloaded the rt-kerne= l and audio-software from planetccrma-repository. I> > noticed that Rosegar= den wasn't included in the repository this time...> >> > Question: Will it = be made available, or do you suggest that I compile it> > myself?> >> >> > = Regards,> > Ingar> >> The package "rosegarden4" is available on the "fedora= " repository.> "yum install rosegarden4"> > Regards> -- > Christophe T> > _= ______________________________________________> PlanetCCRMA mailing list> P= lanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listi= nfo/planetccrma= --_ce87b1c1-e92c-409b-be30-e0c048cc1995_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, that's good to hear.... thanks a lot for your help and lightning fast r= eply!!
(I really didn't think "that far"; that Fedora would include Rosegarden fro= m their own repository..... silly me  <blush> )
 
-Ingar
 

> From: christoph.t@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7= and Rosegarden
> CC: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
> Date: Mo= n, 25 Jun 2007 14:24:59 +0200
>
> 2007/6/25, Ingar Mo <inga= rmohotmail.com>:
> > I recently upgraded to FC7 (from FC5; did = a complete fresh install) - and
> > downloaded the rt-kernel and a= udio-software from planetccrma-repository. I
> > noticed that Rose= garden wasn't included in the repository this time...
> >
> = > Question: Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I compile = it
> > myself?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
= > > Ingar
> >
> The package "rosegarden4" is available= on the "fedora" repository.
> "yum install rosegarden4"
>
= > Regards
> --
> Christophe T
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= --_ce87b1c1-e92c-409b-be30-e0c048cc1995_-- From linuxmedia4@netscape.net Tue Jun 26 00:17:01 2007 From: linuxmedia4@netscape.net (linuxmedia4@netscape.net) Date: Mon Jun 25 23:17:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] FC7 and Rosegarden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4680AEE8.6000206@netscape.net> >> I recently upgraded to FC7 (from FC5; did a complete fresh install) >> - and >> downloaded the rt-kernel and audio-software from >> planetccrma-repository. I >> noticed that Rosegarden wasn't included in the repository this time... >> >> Question: Will it be made available, or do you suggest that I >> compile it >> myself? > The package "rosegarden4" is available on the "fedora" repository. > "yum install rosegarden4" yeah, don't forget, you can always use wild cards to look for the exact name for things. Like this... yum list *rosegarden* Rocco From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Tue Jun 26 23:25:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Tue Jun 26 22:25:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] pd doesn't appear in planetccrma menu? In-Reply-To: <227615.82838.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <227615.82838.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1182921881.646.1.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 15:12 -0700, Cyrill wrote: > hi > > a newbie question again, i'm afraid... > > i'm running planetccrma installed on fedora7, puredata is installed as > it runs normally when launched from a terminal, but it doesn't appear > in the planetccrma applications menu? Is it normal, and if not, what > is the way to repair this (not really boring) problem? > thanks, It is (so far) normal. Why? Pd has many many command line parameters and most users will want to customize the way it is started. Any menu item I add will perhaps be useful the first time (I could for example add "-jack -rt" to the command line options), but for sure you will want to start it from a terminal and customize the options pretty soon... -- Fernando From drunkenbird@gmail.com Thu Jun 28 20:11:02 2007 From: drunkenbird@gmail.com (grae) Date: Thu Jun 28 19:11:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 Message-ID: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a result freebob doesn't work. Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way for my dual monitor setup to work. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. grae From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 28 22:19:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 28 21:19:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > result freebob doesn't work. > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. -- Fernando From drunkenbird@gmail.com Thu Jun 28 22:45:02 2007 From: drunkenbird@gmail.com (grae) Date: Thu Jun 28 21:45:02 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> Hi Fernando, I was using the rt kernel as documented in your steps for fc6. I did a search for the error message that I had received and found this post from the mailing list. http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2007-June/013373.html It did make me aware of what the problem was, but the user in that case ended up moving back to fc6. Unfortunately for me that is a very undesirable path, unless somehow I can get my SGI 1600sw monitor to work in dual display. (good luck!) I'm not a linux guru, but I have messed around with xorg.conf enough to know that I don't want to go there again if I don't have to. I would really like to be able to use ccrma to help pull me away from my mac. I guess firewire might not be top priority, but if I recall correctly Freebob recommends ccrma as the distro to use, so it will be great to hear if there is a solution to this. Maybe I should talk to them about it :) I do appreciate all your hard work. :) grae On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. > > If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels > I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware > you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. > > -- Fernando > > > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Thu Jun 28 22:54:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 28 21:54:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183092824.9703.9.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 23:43 -0500, grae wrote: > Hi Fernando, > > I was using the rt kernel as documented in your steps for fc6. I did > a search for the error message that I had received and found this post > from the mailing list. > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2007-June/013373.html > > It did make me aware of what the problem was, but the user in that > case ended up moving back to fc6. Unfortunately for me that is a very > undesirable path, unless somehow I can get my SGI 1600sw monitor to > work in dual display. (good luck!) I'm not a linux guru, but I have > messed around with xorg.conf enough to know that I don't want to go > there again if I don't have to. > > I would really like to be able to use ccrma to help pull me away from > my mac. I guess firewire might not be top priority, but if I recall > correctly Freebob recommends ccrma as the distro to use, so it will be > great to hear if there is a solution to this. Maybe I should talk to > them about it :) I'll see if I can reproduce the problem... but I don't have that much time (any, actually) free. You got the exact same error? Could you copy all the output from jackd? > I do appreciate all your hard work. :) Thanks. -- Fernando > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > > > I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. > > > > If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels > > I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware > > you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > From drunkenbird@gmail.com Thu Jun 28 23:16:00 2007 From: drunkenbird@gmail.com (grae) Date: Thu Jun 28 22:16:00 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <1183092824.9703.9.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> <1183092824.9703.9.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <73802df70706282215o2a15b225rf3d32c8cd16f59d9@mail.gmail.com> I'm pretty sure I searched for this part of the error: "Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded" I uninstalled fc7 in hopes that fc6 would bring the same fortunes. I won't guarantee the errors were exactly the same, because I can't, so to avoid having you chase a wild goose, I will reinstall fc7 and get back to you asap. :) I do appreciate your time. I as well, have no free time. On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 23:43 -0500, grae wrote: > > Hi Fernando, > > > > I was using the rt kernel as documented in your steps for fc6. I did > > a search for the error message that I had received and found this post > > from the mailing list. > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2007-June/013373.html > > > > It did make me aware of what the problem was, but the user in that > > case ended up moving back to fc6. Unfortunately for me that is a very > > undesirable path, unless somehow I can get my SGI 1600sw monitor to > > work in dual display. (good luck!) I'm not a linux guru, but I have > > messed around with xorg.conf enough to know that I don't want to go > > there again if I don't have to. > > > > I would really like to be able to use ccrma to help pull me away from > > my mac. I guess firewire might not be top priority, but if I recall > > correctly Freebob recommends ccrma as the distro to use, so it will be > > great to hear if there is a solution to this. Maybe I should talk to > > them about it :) > > I'll see if I can reproduce the problem... but I don't have that much > time (any, actually) free. You got the exact same error? Could you copy > all the output from jackd? > > > I do appreciate all your hard work. :) > > Thanks. > -- Fernando > > > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > > > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. > > > > > > If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels > > > I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware > > > you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 29 00:05:05 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Thu Jun 28 23:05:05 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <73802df70706282215o2a15b225rf3d32c8cd16f59d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> <1183092824.9703.9.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282215o2a15b225rf3d32c8cd16f59d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183097090.9952.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 00:15 -0500, grae wrote: > I'm pretty sure I searched for this part of the error: > > "Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument > Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded" > > I uninstalled fc7 in hopes that fc6 would bring the same fortunes. I > won't guarantee the errors were exactly the same, because I can't, so > to avoid having you chase a wild goose, I will reinstall fc7 and get > back to you asap. :) Wait wait, if you have fc6 and it runs don't do anything! :-) > I do appreciate your time. I as well, have no free time. I'll see if I can test something soon, I think we do have one firewire iface I could use. -- Fernando > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 23:43 -0500, grae wrote: > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > I was using the rt kernel as documented in your steps for fc6. I did > > > a search for the error message that I had received and found this post > > > from the mailing list. > > > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2007-June/013373.html > > > > > > It did make me aware of what the problem was, but the user in that > > > case ended up moving back to fc6. Unfortunately for me that is a very > > > undesirable path, unless somehow I can get my SGI 1600sw monitor to > > > work in dual display. (good luck!) I'm not a linux guru, but I have > > > messed around with xorg.conf enough to know that I don't want to go > > > there again if I don't have to. > > > > > > I would really like to be able to use ccrma to help pull me away from > > > my mac. I guess firewire might not be top priority, but if I recall > > > correctly Freebob recommends ccrma as the distro to use, so it will be > > > great to hear if there is a solution to this. Maybe I should talk to > > > them about it :) > > > > I'll see if I can reproduce the problem... but I don't have that much > > time (any, actually) free. You got the exact same error? Could you copy > > all the output from jackd? > > > > > I do appreciate all your hard work. :) > > > > Thanks. > > -- Fernando > > > > > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > > > > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > > > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > > > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > > > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > > > I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. > > > > > > > > If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels > > > > I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware > > > > you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From drunkenbird@gmail.com Fri Jun 29 00:30:01 2007 From: drunkenbird@gmail.com (grae) Date: Thu Jun 28 23:30:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <1183097090.9952.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <1183090704.9703.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282143o46acdaf1wef2c71013fa4e4a9@mail.gmail.com> <1183092824.9703.9.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <73802df70706282215o2a15b225rf3d32c8cd16f59d9@mail.gmail.com> <1183097090.9952.4.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <73802df70706282329m69c29b98j42eb2731d707d2f5@mail.gmail.com> It's ok. It was no problem at all. :) Here is the relevant output from qjackctl. 01:23:14.367 jackd -R -P85 -dfreebob -r44100 -p128 -n3 -D 01:23:14.369 JACK was started with PID=3408 (0xd50). jackd 0.103.0 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis... JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. SSE2 detected Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1 Ieee1394Service::initialize: Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded? Fatal (devicemanager.cpp)[68] initialize: Could not initialize Ieee1349Service object Fatal (freebob.cpp)[69] freebob_new_handle: Could not initialize device manager FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device  01:23:14.656 JACK was stopped successfully. .... On 6/29/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 00:15 -0500, grae wrote: > > I'm pretty sure I searched for this part of the error: > > > > "Could not get 1394 handle: Invalid argument > > Is ieee1394 and raw1394 driver loaded" > > > > I uninstalled fc7 in hopes that fc6 would bring the same fortunes. I > > won't guarantee the errors were exactly the same, because I can't, so > > to avoid having you chase a wild goose, I will reinstall fc7 and get > > back to you asap. :) > > Wait wait, if you have fc6 and it runs don't do anything! :-) > > > I do appreciate your time. I as well, have no free time. > > I'll see if I can test something soon, I think we do have one firewire > iface I could use. > > -- Fernando > > > > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 23:43 -0500, grae wrote: > > > > Hi Fernando, > > > > > > > > I was using the rt kernel as documented in your steps for fc6. I did > > > > a search for the error message that I had received and found this post > > > > from the mailing list. > > > > > > > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrma/2007-June/013373.html > > > > > > > > It did make me aware of what the problem was, but the user in that > > > > case ended up moving back to fc6. Unfortunately for me that is a very > > > > undesirable path, unless somehow I can get my SGI 1600sw monitor to > > > > work in dual display. (good luck!) I'm not a linux guru, but I have > > > > messed around with xorg.conf enough to know that I don't want to go > > > > there again if I don't have to. > > > > > > > > I would really like to be able to use ccrma to help pull me away from > > > > my mac. I guess firewire might not be top priority, but if I recall > > > > correctly Freebob recommends ccrma as the distro to use, so it will be > > > > great to hear if there is a solution to this. Maybe I should talk to > > > > them about it :) > > > > > > I'll see if I can reproduce the problem... but I don't have that much > > > time (any, actually) free. You got the exact same error? Could you copy > > > all the output from jackd? > > > > > > > I do appreciate all your hard work. :) > > > > > > Thanks. > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > On 6/28/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 21:10 -0500, grae wrote: > > > > > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > > > > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > > > > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > > > > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > I have not tested firewire sound yet on fc7. > > > > > > > > > > If I remember correctly in the Planet CCRMA realtime preemption kernels > > > > > I'm still using the old firewire stack so if those run in your hardware > > > > > you _should_ have no problems... YMMV of course. > > > > > > > > > > -- Fernando > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From hcengar@gmail.com Fri Jun 29 12:22:01 2007 From: hcengar@gmail.com (Hector Centeno) Date: Fri Jun 29 11:22:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <695e1a650706291121q71a9813ai227a7b11a98fdaf2@mail.gmail.com> Hi Grae, I ran into the same problem trying to capture video with Kino from a DV camera through firewire and using F7. I found a solution that asks to add a repository and install a tweaked stock fedora kernel and 1394 libraries (and a different version of Kino if you want to use it). After installing them I was able to capture video using the CCRMA kernel and Kino having no problems detecting and operating my camera. I assume that you don't really need to install the kernel since the CCRMA kernel is not based in the new Fedora firewire stack so I guess you should just install the 1394 libraries provided in that repository (unles you want to use a kernel similar to the Fedora stock kernel but without the new stack). The information about this is here: http://www.ezplanetone.com/xwiki/bin/view/KnowledgeBase/BrokenFC7FireWire I wonder if these 1394 libraries should be provided by the CCRMA repository (as dependencies of the planetccrma-core package) since without them seems that Firewire is broken, but then you wouldn't be able to use firewire with the stock kernel (which anyways seems to be having permission problems with it's new stack). Hope this helps. Cheers! Hector On 6/28/07, grae wrote: > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > result freebob doesn't work. > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > grae > > _______________________________________________ > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > -- =============================== http://www.hcenteno.net From drunkenbird@gmail.com Fri Jun 29 14:02:01 2007 From: drunkenbird@gmail.com (grae) Date: Fri Jun 29 13:02:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <695e1a650706291121q71a9813ai227a7b11a98fdaf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <695e1a650706291121q71a9813ai227a7b11a98fdaf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <73802df70706291301o1340826qde9aec711c424d1d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Hector, thank you very much for your reply! Yes it did work! :) I had seen that before but I figured that it meant that I would have to use that kernel. (I'm not overly technical when it comes to kernels and the like) Anyway I did just install the 1394 libs and it works now. I think I may still have some irq sharing problems as I am running on a laptop that seems to share the firewire with some other devices, but I'll do some more tests around that. Whichever way, it's great to be going on fc7! Thanks a lot, grae On 6/29/07, Hector Centeno wrote: > Hi Grae, > > I ran into the same problem trying to capture video with Kino from a > DV camera through firewire and using F7. I found a solution that asks > to add a repository and install a tweaked stock fedora kernel and 1394 > libraries (and a different version of Kino if you want to use it). > After installing them I was able to capture video using the CCRMA > kernel and Kino having no problems detecting and operating my camera. > I assume that you don't really need to install the kernel since the > CCRMA kernel is not based in the new Fedora firewire stack so I guess > you should just install the 1394 libraries provided in that repository > (unles you want to use a kernel similar to the Fedora stock kernel but > without the new stack). > > The information about this is here: > http://www.ezplanetone.com/xwiki/bin/view/KnowledgeBase/BrokenFC7FireWire > > I wonder if these 1394 libraries should be provided by the CCRMA > repository (as dependencies of the planetccrma-core package) since > without them seems that Firewire is broken, but then you wouldn't be > able to use firewire with the stock kernel (which anyways seems to be > having permission problems with it's new stack). > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers! > > Hector > > > > On 6/28/07, grae wrote: > > Hi, I understand that the firewire stack in fc7 has changed and as a > > result freebob doesn't work. > > > > Does anybody have an idea as to when this may be resolved? I would > > very much like to be able to use fc7 as it seems to be the only way > > for my dual monitor setup to work. > > > > Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. > > grae > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PlanetCCRMA mailing list > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma > > > > > -- > =============================== > http://www.hcenteno.net > From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Jun 29 14:08:03 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Fri Jun 29 13:08:03 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] firewire status in fc7 In-Reply-To: <73802df70706291301o1340826qde9aec711c424d1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <73802df70706281910u62383901o55d41aee05b0e39d@mail.gmail.com> <695e1a650706291121q71a9813ai227a7b11a98fdaf2@mail.gmail.com> <73802df70706291301o1340826qde9aec711c424d1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183147656.10910.30.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 15:01 -0500, grae wrote: > Hi Hector, thank you very much for your reply! > > Yes it did work! :) I had seen that before but I figured that it > meant that I would have to use that kernel. (I'm not overly technical > when it comes to kernels and the like) > > Anyway I did just install the 1394 libs and it works now. I think I > may still have some irq sharing problems as I am running on a laptop > that seems to share the firewire with some other devices, but I'll do > some more tests around that. > > Whichever way, it's great to be going on fc7! Yeah, good news! > On 6/29/07, Hector Centeno wrote: > > I ran into the same problem trying to capture video with Kino from a > > DV camera through firewire and using F7. I found a solution that asks > > to add a repository and install a tweaked stock fedora kernel and 1394 > > libraries (and a different version of Kino if you want to use it). > > After installing them I was able to capture video using the CCRMA > > kernel and Kino having no problems detecting and operating my camera. > > I assume that you don't really need to install the kernel since the > > CCRMA kernel is not based in the new Fedora firewire stack so I guess > > you should just install the 1394 libraries provided in that repository > > (unles you want to use a kernel similar to the Fedora stock kernel but > > without the new stack). > > > > The information about this is here: > > http://www.ezplanetone.com/xwiki/bin/view/KnowledgeBase/BrokenFC7FireWire > > > > I wonder if these 1394 libraries should be provided by the CCRMA > > repository (as dependencies of the planetccrma-core package) since > > without them seems that Firewire is broken, but then you wouldn't be > > able to use firewire with the stock kernel (which anyways seems to be > > having permission problems with it's new stack). Yeah, pretty bad conundrum. I think I'll host those libraries anyway in the planetcore repository. Maybe there's a way to make them compatible for both kernels. The "hard core" sound users do need the Planet CCRMA kernel anyway... The other alternative would be to switch to the new firewire stack in the Planet CCRMA kernel, but it is supposed to be a little less stable and furthermore there could be a potential compatibility problem with Ingo's patches. -- Fernando From gdweber@indiana.edu Sat Jun 30 12:17:01 2007 From: gdweber@indiana.edu (Gregory D. Weber) Date: Sat Jun 30 11:17:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Getting SuperCollider to work [Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386!] In-Reply-To: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1183227396.32048.17.camel@moose> Synopsis -------- I've gotten SuperCollider to work, for the most part, in Fedora 7. History ------- On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 18:05 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > ... > Things I know don't work: ... > Supercollider does not start > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > the end instead of waiting for commands... ... Solution -------- Actually, the problem has nothing to do with Fedora 7. It's a bug that crept into SuperCollider in revision 5674 [1] and was reported May 15, 2007, fixed the same day in revision 6000 or or May 16 in 6001 or 6002[2]. The version distributed from PlanetCCRMA seems to be (judging from the rpm file name) 5866 dated 2007-02-19, so it contains the bug. I downloaded revision 6146 (latest from subversion repository as of June 29-30, 2007) and compiled it. It ESSENTIALLY works, but there are still a few kinks. My compile command was scons ALTIVEC=no SSE=yes CUSTOMCCFLAGS=-O3 \ CUSTOMCXXFLAGS=-O3 DEVELOPMENT=yes LID=yes \ PREFIX=/usr X11=no (Not sure if X11=no is necessary if I have the proper header files. If I remember correctly, with X11=yes, scons looked for X11 libraries in /usr/X11R6, a directory which does not exist in Fedora 7.) (I used PREFIX=/usr because when trying with PREFIX=/opt, and this might happen for /usr/local as well, there were weird problems with libsclang, etc., not being found, and ldconfig apparently not working correctly for /opt/lib) Things that WORK ---------------- 1. sclang starts under emacs and does wait around for commands. 2. scsynth (the server) can be booted from sclang under emacs. (I'm puzzled as to whether it is using the vector unit, since it gives these (apparently contradictory) messages -- this is on a Pentium III: using vector unit: yes but No supported SIMD instruction sets detected ) 3. Evaluating these lines of code "Hello world".postln; { SinOsc.ar(440, 0, 0.2) }.play; does result in visual output in the Post buffer and audio output of the sine tone. Things I Noticed NOT WORKING ----------------------------- 1. The help command C-c C-h does not work unless the packages w3m and w3m-el are installed; for good measure, I also installed w3m-img. After that, the help command still does not work in the SC Workspace buffer -- these messages appear: Loading w3m... byte-code: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil (and possibly does not work in other buffers either) but DOES work in the Sclang Post buffer. 2. Multiple lines of code enclosed in parentheses cannot be executed using C-M-x; however, they CAN be evaluated by selecting the lines as a region and evaluating the region (C-c C-x) 3. The server reports a number of missing ugens: AnalyseEvents2, PV_EvenBin, MouseX, StkClarinet 4. If your working directory contains a subdirectory named SCClassLibrary, then sclang will compile the files in that INSTEAD OF the standard class library, with the result that many necessary classes are undefined. Gratitude --------- PROFOUND THANKS to Fernando for getting us rolling with Fedora 7, and all of his fine work over the years in distributing PlanetCCRMA!!!!!!!!!!! References ---------- [1] "Re: [sc-users] LinuX sclang" http://www.nabble.com/Re% A--sc-users--LinuX-sclang-tf3760058.html#a10633792 [2] "fixed linux sclang problem" http://www.nabble.com/fixed-linux-sclang-problem-t3762000.html -- Gregory D. Weber Home page: http://mypage.iu.edu/~gdweber/ Telephone (765) 973-8420; FAX (765) 973-8550 Schedule: http://mypage.iu.edu/~gdweber/contact/schedule.txt Associate Professor of Computer Science Chair, Curriculum Committee Indiana University East 2325 Chester Boulevard, Richmond, Indiana 47374-1289, U.S.A. ---- Plain text is the document format that maximizes readability and minimizes hassle and hazard. It is the format of the official documents defining Internet protocols (http://www.rfc-editor.org/). ---- One Microsoft Way: an address with an agenda! From nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Sat Jun 30 12:37:01 2007 From: nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano) Date: Sat Jun 30 11:37:01 2007 Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] Getting SuperCollider to work [Re: [PlanetCCRMANews] Fedora 7: Planet CCRMA for i386!] In-Reply-To: <1183227396.32048.17.camel@moose> References: <1181264706.8132.45.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <1183227396.32048.17.camel@moose> Message-ID: <1183228562.14071.6.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 14:16 -0400, Gregory D. Weber wrote: > Synopsis > -------- > > I've gotten SuperCollider to work, for the most part, in Fedora 7. Thank you thank you thank you! This is great. I was going to try soon with a newer svn checkout and I was expecting trouble from the new help system. It is good to know this is mostly working. I'll work on a new package next week starting from your notes, they will save me a LOT of work. Hmmm, even if there was a known bug this was working on fc4 and fc6 so there must also be some interaction with something in fc7. Anyway, it is good to know it works. Have you tried to build the external package collections I distribute? I imagine that's goind to take some extra work (new versions, etc, etc). Again, thanks! -- Fernando > > History > ------- > > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 18:05 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > > > [WARNING: fc7 is new. New releases have bugs. I don't like bugs. I would > > not install fc7 right away. Specially if I were to be already making > > music on fcx where x < 7 :-] > > > > Having said that, there's a trial version available of Planet CCRMA > > built on top of Fedora 7 i386 (for now). As usual you start by pointing > > to the Planet CCRMA repositories (all in one line): > > > > ... > > > Things I know don't work: > > ... > > > Supercollider does not start > > properly, sclang seems happy and prints the right things but exits at > > the end instead of waiting for commands... > > ... > > Solution > -------- > > Actually, the problem has nothing to do with Fedora 7. It's a bug that > crept into SuperCollider in revision 5674 [1] and was reported May 15, > 2007, fixed the same day in revision 6000 or or May 16 in 6001 or > 6002[2]. The version distributed from PlanetCCRMA seems to be (judging > from the rpm file name) 5866 dated 2007-02-19, so it contains the bug. > > I downloaded revision 6146 (latest from subversion repository as of June > 29-30, 2007) and compiled it. It ESSENTIALLY works, but there are still > a few kinks. > > My compile command was > > scons ALTIVEC=no SSE=yes CUSTOMCCFLAGS=-O3 \ > CUSTOMCXXFLAGS=-O3 DEVELOPMENT=yes LID=yes \ > PREFIX=/usr X11=no > > (Not sure if X11=no is necessary if I have the proper header files. > If I remember correctly, with X11=yes, scons looked for X11 libraries > in /usr/X11R6, a directory which does not exist in Fedora 7.) > > (I used PREFIX=/usr because when trying with PREFIX=/opt, and this might > happen for /usr/local as well, there were weird problems with libsclang, > etc., not being found, and ldconfig apparently not working correctly > for /opt/lib) > > Things that WORK > ---------------- > > 1. sclang starts under emacs and does wait around for commands. > > 2. scsynth (the server) can be booted from sclang under emacs. > > (I'm puzzled as to whether it is using the vector unit, since it gives > these (apparently contradictory) messages -- this is on a Pentium III: > using vector unit: yes > but > No supported SIMD instruction sets detected > ) > > 3. Evaluating these lines of code > > "Hello world".postln; > { SinOsc.ar(440, 0, 0.2) }.play; > > does result in visual output in the Post buffer and audio output of the > sine tone. > > Things I Noticed NOT WORKING > ----------------------------- > > 1. The help command C-c C-h does not work unless the packages w3m and > w3m-el are installed; for good measure, I also installed w3m-img. > > After that, the help command still does not work in the SC Workspace > buffer -- these messages appear: > Loading w3m... > byte-code: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil > (and possibly does not work in other buffers either) > but DOES work in the Sclang Post buffer. > > 2. Multiple lines of code enclosed in parentheses cannot be executed > using C-M-x; however, they CAN be evaluated by selecting the lines as a > region and evaluating the region (C-c C-x) > > 3. The server reports a number of missing ugens: > AnalyseEvents2, PV_EvenBin, MouseX, StkClarinet > > 4. If your working directory contains a subdirectory named > SCClassLibrary, then sclang will compile the files in that INSTEAD OF > the standard class library, with the result that many necessary classes > are undefined. > > Gratitude > --------- > > PROFOUND THANKS to Fernando for getting us rolling with Fedora 7, and > all of his fine work over the years in distributing > PlanetCCRMA!!!!!!!!!!! > > References > ---------- > > [1] "Re: [sc-users] LinuX sclang" > > http://www.nabble.com/Re% > A--sc-users--LinuX-sclang-tf3760058.html#a10633792 > > [2] "fixed linux sclang problem" > > http://www.nabble.com/fixed-linux-sclang-problem-t3762000.html > > > -- > Gregory D. Weber Home page: http://mypage.iu.edu/~gdweber/ > Telephone (765) 973-8420; FAX (765) > 973-8550 > Schedule: http://mypage.iu.edu/~gdweber/contact/schedule.txt > Associate Professor of Computer Science > Chair, Curriculum Committee > Indiana University East > 2325 Chester Boulevard, Richmond, Indiana 47374-1289, U.S.A. > ----