[PlanetCCRMA] PlanetCCRMA *not* in the press
Nicholas Manojlovic
nicholasmanojlovic@gmail.com
Mon Aug 6 19:52:01 2007
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I agree somewhat - I don't want to get all negative about the other distros,
but I certainly haven't ever found the same quality or performance. Maybe
its just because I enjoy Fedora the best, and I find the 'add a repository'
as easy as piss to set up (I find Ubuntu a myriad of repos far too hard to
understand).
Personally I don't use any of the 'academic' packages - I'm a simple Ardour,
midi and soft-synth kind of guy and I can't say I've ever had a problem.
My own personal theory is that the website is a little dated, which can lead
to confusion. Perhaps its time for a wiki?
On 8/7/07, Hector Centeno <hcengar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do have some theories too. Something that I noticed is that there seems
> to be a positive proliferation of Linux Audio distros (UbuntuStudio,
> 64Studio, Musix, JackLab) but only Planet CCRMA has "academic" music
> composers included in it's target audience (at least it seems to me), this
> is something that I find great since my interest is in electroacoustic music
> and sound art. The other distros seem to be more inclined to worry about
> providing tools for other genera of music, which is fine! Packages like
> Csound, PD, Supercollider, etc are sometimes absent or outdated in these
> distros, as well as other audio processing tools. I find that in the case of
> UbuntuStudio the disadvantages are that the maintainers are reluctant to
> provide any other packages outside of the ones already available in the main
> Ubuntu repository, which lacks a lot in the audio and music area. I found
> that the UbuntuStudio maintainers maybe are not really that much into Linux
> music and audio since I found (through reading the mailing lists) that they
> don't know of the existence of some fundamental packages (FreeBoB/FFADO for
> instance, and other audio apps). The good side about Ubuntu is that the
> other components of the system work quite well and are usually ready to use
> without needing to much configuration. I guess the fact that CCRMA comes
> from an academic context makes it also not that "popular" as the other ones.
>
> Anyways, sorry for the rant, I just wanted to share some thoughts and
> thanks for the good work behind CCRMA.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hector
>
> On 8/5/07, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 21:37 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote:
> > > After reading the list of distros in that article (got the link from
> > > yourpost at the Ardour list) I wondered the same thing: how come
> > > Planet CCRMA is not here when is the most exhaustive and up to date
> > > Linux Audio application repository? Also with one very hard working
> > > maintainer behind.
> >
> > Thanks for the kind words.
> >
> > As to why, I don't know. Planet CCRMA used to be mentioned when there
> > were articles about music and linux, I'll have to have a serious talk
> > with my Marketing Department Leader! :-)
> >
> > (I do have my own theories, of course :-)
> > -- Fernando
> >
> > >
> > > Hector
> >
> > > On 8/4/07, Stephan Neuhaus < sten@artdecode.de> wrote:
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > Spiegel Online, one of Germany's most-read online magazines,
> > > has a brief
> > > article about making music under Linux. See
> > > http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,497951,00.html
> > >
> > > Right at the top of the article, it says that "Linux users
> > > have the
> > > choice between at least five current distributions geared
> > > specially
> > > processing audio: 64 Studio, Dynabolic, Jacklab, Musix, and
> > > Ubuntu
> > > Studio." (my translation).
> > >
> > > There is no mention of PlanetCCRMA in the article. This
> > > suggests that
> > > it keeps a slightly low profile among music
> > > distributions. This may be
> > > deliberate; it just astonished me since I have been using
> > > PlanetCCRMA
> > > for so long :-)
> > >
> > > Anyway, have fun and keep up the good work,
> > >
> > > Stephan
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu
> > > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma
> > >
> > >
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<br>I agree somewhat - I don't want to get all negative about the other distros, but I certainly haven't ever found the same quality or performance. Maybe its just because I enjoy Fedora the best, and I find the 'add a repository' as easy as piss to set up (I find Ubuntu a myriad of repos far too hard to understand).
<br><br>Personally I don't use any of the 'academic' packages - I'm a simple Ardour, midi and soft-synth kind of guy and I can't say I've ever had a problem. <br><br>My own personal theory is that the website is a little dated, which can lead to confusion. Perhaps its time for a wiki?
<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/7/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hector Centeno</b> <<a href="mailto:hcengar@gmail.com">hcengar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I do have some theories too. Something that I noticed is that there
seems to be a positive proliferation of Linux Audio distros
(UbuntuStudio, 64Studio, Musix, JackLab) but only Planet CCRMA has
"academic" music composers included in it's target audience (at least
it seems to me), this is something that I find great since my interest
is in electroacoustic music and sound art. The other distros seem to be
more inclined to worry about providing tools for other genera of music,
which is fine! Packages like Csound, PD, Supercollider, etc are
sometimes absent or outdated in these distros, as well as other audio
processing tools. I find that in the case of UbuntuStudio the
disadvantages are that the maintainers are reluctant to provide any
other packages outside of the ones already available in the main Ubuntu
repository, which lacks a lot in the audio and music area. I found that
the UbuntuStudio maintainers maybe are not really that much into Linux
music and audio since I found (through reading the mailing lists) that
they don't know of the existence of some fundamental packages
(FreeBoB/FFADO for instance, and other audio apps). The good side
about Ubuntu is that the other components of the system work quite well
and are usually ready to use without needing to much configuration. I
guess the fact that CCRMA comes from an academic context makes it also
not that "popular" as the other ones.<br>
<br>
Anyways, sorry for the rant, I just wanted to share some thoughts and thanks for the good work behind CCRMA.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Hector<div><span class="e" id="q_1143d7a14da69105_1"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Fernando Lopez-Lezcano</b> <<a href="mailto:nando@ccrma.stanford.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 21:37 -0400, Hector Centeno wrote:<br>> After reading the list of distros in that article (got the link from<br>> yourpost at the Ardour list) I wondered the same thing: how come<br>> Planet CCRMA is not here when is the most exhaustive and up to date
<br>> Linux Audio application repository? Also with one very hard working<br>> maintainer behind.<br><br>Thanks for the kind words.<br><br>As to why, I don't know. Planet CCRMA used to be mentioned when there<br>
were articles about music and linux, I'll have to have a serious talk<br>with my Marketing Department Leader! :-)<br><br>(I do have my own theories, of course :-)<br>-- Fernando<br><br>><br>> Hector<br><br>> On 8/4/07, Stephan Neuhaus <
<a href="mailto:sten@artdecode.de" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sten@artdecode.de</a>> wrote:<br>> Dear list,<br>><br>> Spiegel Online, one of Germany's most-read online magazines,
<br>> has a brief<br>> article about making music under Linux. See
<br>> <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,497951,00.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,497951,00.html</a><br>
><br>> Right at the top of the article, it says that "Linux users
<br>> have the<br>> choice between at least five current distributions geared<br>> specially<br>> processing audio: 64 Studio, Dynabolic, Jacklab, Musix, and<br>> Ubuntu
<br>> Studio." (my translation).<br>><br>> There is no mention of PlanetCCRMA in the article. This<br>> suggests that<br>> it keeps a slightly low profile among music<br>
> distributions. This may be<br>> deliberate; it just astonished me since I have been using<br>> PlanetCCRMA<br>> for so long :-)<br>><br>> Anyway, have fun and keep up the good work,
<br>><br>> Stephan<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> PlanetCCRMA mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:PlanetCCRMA@ccrma.stanford.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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