[PlanetCCRMA] (newbie) questions on the FC5 CCRMA and package management

Wed Jul 19 10:06:01 2006

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Hello -=20

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First of all, thanks for a great platform!=20

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I wanted to upgrade my FC3 CCRMA to FC5. installed FC and ccrma-core.

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Then, for installing the apps, the instructions are somewhat confusing
(or is it just me being confused?)

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1)       there is a note saying that the planetccrma-* app packages are
not yet available

2)       there are links to the packages

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1)       there are no instructions on how to configure or install apt
(as there used to be for the previous versions). My conclusion was....It
is all yum these days (which I found out was wrong pretty quickly..)

2)       the example commands for installing are still for apt

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My conclusion is that audioapps and adiovideoapps are still managed
under apt. Correct? (want to know before I try and mess up something...)

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Is the package manager bound to change in the future to be only yum?

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Second question: Which other package collections go together with
planetccrma? I would assume atrpms, since they mirror planetccrma. Are
there any "recommended" and "stay away from" lists?

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Third, general, very-much-newbie question is:=20

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a) How do apt and yum work together? Isn't there a way that they could
mess up with each other?=20

b) if I add an rpm outside of yum and apt, are they incorporated
"automagically" into the local yum

 and apt repo management, or are they forever out in the cold?=20

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Thanks for anyone with the patience to answer,

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Erik Steinholtz

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PS I also found a typo on the main page
(http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/) , saying that
planetccrma is supported for FC versions 1,2,4 and 5, even though 3 is
among the installation instructions.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hello &#8211; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

First of all, thanks for a great platform! =
<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

I wanted to upgrade my FC3 CCRMA to FC5. installed FC =
and
ccrma-core.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Then, for installing the apps, the instructions are =
somewhat
confusing (or is it just me being =
confused?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>there is a
note saying that the planetccrma-* app packages are not yet =
available<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>there are
links to the packages<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<![if !supportLists]>1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<![endif]>there are no
instructions on how to configure or install apt (as there used to be for =
the
previous versions). My conclusion was&#8230;.It is all yum these days =
(which I
found out was wrong pretty quickly..)<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>the example
commands for installing are still for apt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

My conclusion is that audioapps and adiovideoapps are =
still
managed under apt. Correct? (want to know before I try and mess up =
something&#8230;)
<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Is the package manager bound to change in the future =
to be
only yum?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

Second question: Which other package collections go =
together
with planetccrma? I would assume atrpms, since they mirror planetccrma. =
Are there
any &#8220;recommended&#8221; and &#8220;stay away from&#8221; =
lists?<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Third, general, very-much-newbie question is: =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

a) How do apt and yum work together? Isn&#8217;t =
there a way
that they could mess up with each other? <o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>b) if I add an rpm outside of yum and apt, are they =
incorporated
&#8220;automagically&#8221; into the local =
yum<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

&nbsp;and apt repo management, or are they forever =
out in
the cold? <o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks for anyone with the patience to =
answer,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Erik Steinholtz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>PS I also found a typo on the main page (<a
href=3D"http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/">http://ccrma.sta=
nford.edu/planetccrma/software/</a>)
, saying that planetccrma is supported for FC versions 1,2,4 and 5, even =
though
3 is among the installation instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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