[PlanetCCRMA] SB Live (ca0106) and hundreds of xrun messages
greg mccourt
greg.mccourt@EF.com
Thu Feb 9 08:40:05 2006
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Sorry... I guess I was a bit negative in my last post, but I've only =
been frustrated with this card. Currently living and working in =
Indonesia, all the shops only seem to be stocking this card at the =
moment, so I bought one. Yeah, it's cheap for a card that claims such =
specs and I would have been happy with a clean 2channel 16bit card, =
really. I'd be willing to pay more, but I just don't have access to any =
better hardware on the market here in Indonesia, and customs will charge =
me triple if I import one from abroad.
At one time I did get it to work in 2-channel playback only. Recently, I =
had to do a re-install of FC3 and the Planet (don't ask...) and now it =
doesn't work at all, and I get very cryptic low-level errors. Who knows? =
the card may just be a faulty piece of hardware? I may try a new =
install, but I think I am going to look around for a better supported =
sound card first.
If you get capture working, please post as I could never get this to =
work with this card. I think you may be concerned about this as well. =
Have you tried capturing any input?
I've posted all my configuration and errors to this list. Fernando =
thought everything looked correct. I've since given up on this card, but =
I'll try to find time to have another go at it again.
Anyway, It is good to hear someone got this card working (for playback). =
Capture is your next challenge! Good work.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: David Slimp [mailto:rock808@gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 2/9/2006 2:28 AM
To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu
Cc: greg mccourt
Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] SB Live (ca0106) and hundreds of xrun =
messages
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Hmmm.. Well, I just said in the last message
that I DID get it to work.
I'm not sure exactly how well yet... or to what
extent, but I am able to run qjackctl, hydrogen, qsynth, and ardour
I still have more testing to do... being a $30 card I don't
expect much out of it. I'll report back with my findings.
Have you tried making the changes (settings) I mentioned
in the last post? I think the BIGGEST factor was setting
the Audio setting to "Playback only".... rather than "Duplex".
I don't know how this will end up affecting me, but haven't
noticed anything in the last 8 hours.
What are settings are YOU using ?
David
On 2/8/06, greg mccourt <greg.mccourt@ef.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi. I bought the same card. It sucks! I've had the same problems you =
are
> experiencing and more. No solutions. I don't think Fernando should be
> chasing after Creative SB inconsistancies---the community really needs =
to
> send them the message that we won't buy their products unless they can
> deliver quality consistant products. I'll trade my new SB 7.1s for an =
older
> SB Live Value! At least the later works...
>
> DON'T BUY A SB 7.1! I don't know why Alsa claims it's supported =
because
> I've bought two and neither work under Planet or any Alsa driver i've =
tried.
> Jack just pukes at it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: planetccrma-admin@ccrma.Stanford.EDU on behalf of
> David Slimp
> Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 12:39 PM
> To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
> Cc: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] SB Live (ca0106) and hundreds of xrun =
messages
>
> Thanks, Fernando...
>
> I think I had several issues (and still may have more soon),
> but your suggestions got me to try a few more things.
>
> I finally ended up with qjackctl settings of
> Frames/Period =3D 512
> Sample Rate =3D 48000
> Periods/Buffer =3D 3
> Audio =3D Playback only (BIGGEST FACTOR)
>
> giving me a latency of 32msec
> and qjackctl messages like:
> load =3D 6.4089 max usecs: 682.000, spare =3D 9984.000
>
> I have no idea if this is good or not, but at least I'm now
> able to play a song with hydrogen and use my external
> midi keyboard and qsynth.
>
> I'm now mostly worried what the "playback only"
> is going to mean for me.
>
> Next test will be to see what I can do with ardour,
> and rosegarden (which I've never been able to get
> working due to "rosegarden can't start sequencer").
>
> thanks again,
> David
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry... I guess I was a bit negative in my last post, =
but I've only been frustrated with this card. Currently living and =
working in Indonesia, all the shops only seem to be stocking this card =
at the moment, so I bought one. Yeah, it's cheap for a card that claims =
such specs and I would have been happy with a clean 2channel 16bit card, =
really. I'd be willing to pay more, but I just don't have access to any =
better hardware on the market here in Indonesia, and customs will charge =
me triple if I import one from abroad.<BR>
<BR>
At one time I did get it to work in 2-channel playback only. Recently, I =
had to do a re-install of FC3 and the Planet (don't ask...) and now it =
doesn't work at all, and I get very cryptic low-level errors. Who knows? =
the card may just be a faulty piece of hardware? I may try a new =
install, but I think I am going to look around for a better supported =
sound card first.<BR>
<BR>
If you get capture working, please post as I could never get this to =
work with this card. I think you may be concerned about this as well. =
Have you tried capturing any input?<BR>
<BR>
I've posted all my configuration and errors to this list. Fernando =
thought everything looked correct. I've since given up on this card, but =
I'll try to find time to have another go at it again.<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, It is good to hear someone got this card working (for playback). =
Capture is your next challenge! Good work.<BR>
<BR>
Greg<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: David Slimp [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rock808@gmail.com">mailto:rock808@gmail.com</A>]<BR>
Sent: Thu 2/9/2006 2:28 AM<BR>
To: planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu<BR>
Cc: greg mccourt<BR>
Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] SB Live (ca0106) and hundreds of xrun =
messages<BR>
<BR>
Hmmm.. Well, I just said in the last message<BR>
that I DID get it to work.<BR>
<BR>
I'm not sure exactly how well yet... or to what<BR>
extent, but I am able to run qjackctl, hydrogen, qsynth, and ardour<BR>
<BR>
I still have more testing to do... being a $30 card I don't<BR>
expect much out of it. I'll report back with my findings.<BR>
<BR>
Have you tried making the changes (settings) I mentioned<BR>
in the last post? I think the BIGGEST factor was setting<BR>
the Audio setting to "Playback only".... rather than =
"Duplex".<BR>
<BR>
I don't know how this will end up affecting me, but haven't<BR>
noticed anything in the last 8 hours.<BR>
<BR>
What are settings are YOU using ?<BR>
<BR>
David<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 2/8/06, greg mccourt <greg.mccourt@ef.com> wrote:<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> Hi. I bought the same card. It sucks! I've had the same problems =
you are<BR>
> experiencing and more. No solutions. I don't think Fernando should =
be<BR>
> chasing after Creative SB inconsistancies---the community really =
needs to<BR>
> send them the message that we won't buy their products unless they =
can<BR>
> deliver quality consistant products. I'll trade my new SB 7.1s for =
an older<BR>
> SB Live Value! At least the later works...<BR>
><BR>
> DON'T BUY A SB 7.1! I don't know why Alsa claims it's =
supported because<BR>
> I've bought two and neither work under Planet or any Alsa driver =
i've tried.<BR>
> Jack just pukes at it.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> -----Original Message-----<BR>
> From: planetccrma-admin@ccrma.Stanford.EDU on behalf of<BR>
> David Slimp<BR>
> Sent: Wed 2/8/2006 12:39 PM<BR>
> To: planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU<BR>
> Cc: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano<BR>
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] SB Live (ca0106) and hundreds of =
xrun messages<BR>
><BR>
> Thanks, Fernando...<BR>
><BR>
> I think I had several issues (and still may have more =
soon),<BR>
> but your suggestions got me to try a few more things.<BR>
><BR>
> I finally ended up with qjackctl settings of<BR>
> Frames/Period =3D 512<BR>
> Sample Rate =3D 48000<BR>
> Periods/Buffer =3D 3<BR>
> Audio =3D Playback only (BIGGEST FACTOR)<BR>
><BR>
> giving me a latency of 32msec<BR>
> and qjackctl messages like:<BR>
> load =3D =
6.4089 max usecs: 682.000, spare =3D 9984.000<BR>
><BR>
> I have no idea if this is good or not, but at least I'm =
now<BR>
> able to play a song with hydrogen and use my external<BR>
> midi keyboard and qsynth.<BR>
><BR>
> I'm now mostly worried what the "playback only"<BR>
> is going to mean for me.<BR>
><BR>
> Next test will be to see what I can do with ardour,<BR>
> and rosegarden (which I've never been able to get<BR>
> working due to "rosegarden can't start =
sequencer").<BR>
><BR>
> thanks again,<BR>
> David<BR>
><BR>
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