[PlanetCCRMA] Jack and Cinelerra

Turkay Guner turkayguner@gmail.com
Sun Aug 7 04:04:01 2005

I totally agree with Joseph, meanwhile the video editing improves  on
Linux, you may try Wine to get work some Win32 video editing apps.
That's just an idea...

On 8/7/05, Joseph Dell'Orfano <fullgo@dellorfano.net> wrote:
> Well, I do have to agree that starting off with cinelerra is not easy.
> In fact, for simple home video editing, kino appears to be the tool of
> choice. I must take issue with the argument against open source
> software, however. I was able to figure out cinelerra with the help of
> the user community and the developers. This is simply a different
> paradigm compared with commercial software. For example, with
> PlanetCCRMA I have a fully functional recording studio and video editing
> studio. The equivalent commercial software would've literally cost
> thousands of dollars. On the other hand, commercial video editing pretty
> much worked out of the box for me, although with even more crashes than
> I currently get!
> My advice regarding linux video editing at this time is that it is
> probably still in the realm of the hobbyist, although the tools are
> exceptionally powerful compared with commercial products for home use.
> That being said, I think that Heroine Virtual actually has reasonable
> documentation. You can get a copy at
> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra/cinelerra.html
> Here is a link to a general tutorial about capturing and editing video.
> This one recommends using kino for DV capture and cinelerra for editing,
> a combination that I have found to be very useful.
> http://www.robfisher.net/video/
> Here is a link to the public CVS branch of cinelerra
> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/. There are more links to documentation here as
> well.
> These are a good start for just starting out with cinelerra. These were
> all sites that I found when I was frustrated with how the program
> worked. (I have been working with it for almost 2 years now.)
> 1. To get DV from your DV camera, plug into firewire and use Kino. This
> will allow you to control the camera with your computer via the kino
> interface. This allows you to capture video. Kino will break this up
> into scenes if you like. I generally have it make a scene at every
> camera cut.
> 2. Save the video files in quicktime format from kino. This is the only
> format which I have found works well with cinelerra. This is a raw video
> format, so there is no loss of quality from the camera through kino into
> cinelerra.
> 3. Load the files into cinelerra and edit them on the timeline as you
> see fit. (I guess this is the part that has everyone flummoxed!)
> 4. Cinelerra will render files as mpgs in addition to many other
> formats. To make an actual DVD is actually not a user friendly
> proposition, although there are several excellent tools being developed.
> DVDauthor is the command line utility to actually author a DVD. This has
> more menu options than anything I have seen available commercially for
> home use. There is a gui frontend for this called Q-DVDauthor which
> works well enough for me. (http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net/)
> Again, this is not an easy process to start off with. However, with a
> lot of patience, you get a very powerful video editing suite. For
> general home use, Kino is more than enough, though.
> -Joe D
> On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 11:00 -0700, Brad Fuller wrote:
> > Mark Knecht wrote:
> >
> > > My son and I tried to make sense of Cinelerra about a year ago. It
> > > drove us nuts and seemed to demonstrate exactly why Open Source
> > > Software doesn't win against market driven products you pay for. The
> > > documentation was, at least at the time, almost nil, and it seemed to
> > > us that nothing did what you would assume from using other program
> > > like this under Windows. We couldn't figure it out at all.
> > >
> > you're not alone. I was also confused by it's interface. Seemed to take
> > over and I couldn't really figure it out.
> > I gave up.
> >
> --
> Joseph Dell'Orfano <fullgo@dellorfano.net>