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It would be terrific If you would try that! Since I started the CS+Music degree here a few years ago I simply don't have time to do even maintenance let alone development. Also, I have to teach my courses in either Python or C++ because that's what students
are using in their CS courses. I actually now have a “version” of cm implemented in python3 that doesn't need any building and I would be happy to release it, the only catch is the course is about students building software systems so I don't really want
to release the sources to the reference implementation lol, but i guess i could just release pyc files. If I live long enough I would do a python binding to sndlib, at that point I would have the equivalent of the original Common Lisp/CLM/Common Music system
but much more maintainable.
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Ok if you dont care which version and are not a big fan of JUCE or building c++ apps then I would definitely suggest you try the stable version of Common Music in Common Lisp, which believe is still on the sourceforge
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<p class="">Okay, maybe I'll try to build both when I get the chance. I don't know what the difference would be. I'm not a huge fan of JUCE, but I would like to try to get it to build to have something to experiment with.
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<p class="">As far as building it goes, I've followed the readme from <a href="https://github.com/ricktaube/grace" target="_blank" class="">
https://github.com/ricktaube/grace</a> and when I try to make in the sndlib folder, there says there is nothing to make. Here is the command I have run before make:</p>
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<p class="">I followed all of the steps before that, and I am not quite sure what I have missed. I'm not an expert at building things, so it may be obvious. I also have premake 5.0a15-1 on my Artix machine, and am not sure if that is the problem or not. What
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Brandon, are you trying to build the common lisp version or the S7/Grace version? If the latter you should get the sources from its github home, there is a readme that should get you going. Im not sure what will happen in
JUCE 6 let me know if you are having issues compiling:
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<p class="">I have heard from one of my previous professors about the cool things one can do with Common Music. I am really interested in setting this up to play with it. I tried to build Common Music on my Artix Linux setup (Arch Linux without systemd) and
it won't compile, even though I think I have all of the dependencies. I don't know if I have all of the JUCE dependencies, as the readme file that comes with the source code has a
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dead</a> link, but I do have JUCE installed on my system from the official repository.
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<p class="">Does anyone on this list use Common Music on Arch and have a package or a PKGBUILD at all? I would be extremely interested in that. If not, maybe I can post the compiler output and see what the issues are.
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