[CM] poly questions

James Hearon j_hearon at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 27 10:24:17 PDT 2021


Hi,
Thank you for the example re: polyshape , square wave. I am surprised to see that fractions vs. decimals for amps in the float-vector makes a difference in the chebyshev coefficients.

(partials->polynomial (float-vector 1 1 3 1/3 5 1/5 7 1/7 9 1/9 ))
;(0.0 1.0 0.0 -7.999999999999999 0.0 35.2 0.0 -54.85714285714286 0.0 28.44444444444444)

(with-sound (:srate 48000 :channels 1 :play #t)
  (let ((gen (make-polyshape 100.0 :coeffs #r(0.0 1.0 0.0 -7.999999999999999 0.0 35.2 0.0 -54.85714285714286 0.0 28.44444444444444) ))
       )
    (do ((i 0 (+ i 1)))
        ((= i 88200))
      (outa i (* .75 (polyshape gen 1.0 ))))))

When trying to plug the coefficents back into make-polyshape, I get a different wave shape, which looks more like a triangle-ish wave instead of the square:
^^^^^^
I believe this is where I'm stuck, trying to empirically understand how the chebyshev coefficient numbers work for additive synthesis. I thought the problem might be normalization or order of coefficients?  Still not sure where I'm going wrong.

Any help, advice much appreciated.

Regards,
Jim

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Hi,
Trying to get an understanding of all the interesting aspects of polywave in snd, and chebyshev polynomials, coefficients etc.  I was trying to get a squarish wave from the coefficients but failing.
Also tried partials->polynomial, and normalize-partials with same result.  Wondering what I'm misunderstanding about how you would employ the coefficients for a typical float-vector of partials, and amps for say a square wave?

(with-sound (:srate 48000 :channels 1 :play #t)
  (let ((gen (make-polyshape 100.0 :coeffs (partials->polynomial (float-vector 1 1 3 .33 5 .2 7 .142 9 0.111)) ))
       )
    (do ((i 0 (+ i 1)))
        ((= i 88200))
      (outa i (* .75 (polyshape gen 1.0 ))))))

Also, if I can ask more than one question per email, how do you go about using the generators:

mus-chebyshev-tu-sum x t-coeffs u-coeffs
mus-chebyshev-t-sum x t-coeffs
mus-chebyshev-u-sum x u-coeffs

I couldn't seem to locate an ex. for those, but I did see the c code in clm.c which is interesting.
Thank you,
Regards,
Jim

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