From benmca at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 22:58:17 2016
From: benmca at gmail.com (Ben McAllister)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:58:17 -0800
Subject: [CM] Grace + Csound: Sandboxing issue on Mac
Message-ID: <CADtM24yZm2ZYd4VM65LJcL1t0_YxDCymzh5KfETWd3tLoHrM+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello List,

In working through the tutorials in the 3.9 release through the App
Store, I discovered I'm not able to run Csound from Grace. Looks like
the app is built with sandboxing enabled, which prohibits it from
executing my csound binary.  Maybe this is compulsory when submitting?
I'm a developer, but haven't ever deployed a Mac app.. Grepping
through the Grace binary, I see the key
<key>com.apple.security.app-sandbox</key>  is set to true, at any
rate, hence my guess.

So - I figured I'd build my own Grace from source, but JUCE
compilation seems to be broken, perhaps on OS X 10.11 only?  make gets
a lot of complaints on a missing Point definition like so:

/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/Quickdraw.h:286:102:
error: unknown type name

      'Point'

typedef CALLBACK_API( short , QDTxMeasProcPtr )(short byteCount, const
void *textAddr, Point *numer, Point *denom, FontInfo *info);

A recent poster on JUCE's forum mentions the issue:
http://www.juce.com/forum/topic/unknown-type-name-point

Any help/workarounds appreciated. Thanks!
Ben McAllister
listenfaster.com


                              ^


From aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 16 12:14:53 2016
From: aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com (Aykut Caglayan)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:14:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [CM] Grace + Csound: Sandboxing issue on Mac
References: <613985788.5544404.1455653693254.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <613985788.5544404.1455653693254.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

You could download earlier releases via this link:
http://camil.music.illinois.edu/software/grace/

I'm using 3.9-beta6, which is working like 'Grace' unlike App Store release 
 
 
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:58:17 -0800
 From: Ben McAllister <benmca at gmail.com>
 To: cm list <Cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
 Subject: [CM] Grace + Csound: Sandboxing issue on Mac
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 Hello List,
 
 In working through the tutorials in the 3.9 release through
 the App
 Store, I discovered I'm not able to run Csound from Grace.
 Looks like
 the app is built with sandboxing enabled, which prohibits it
 from
 executing my csound binary.? Maybe this is compulsory
 when submitting?
 I'm a developer, but haven't ever deployed a Mac app..
 Grepping
 through the Grace binary, I see the key
 <key>com.apple.security.app-sandbox</key>?
 is set to true, at any
 rate, hence my guess.
 
 So - I figured I'd build my own Grace from source, but JUCE
 compilation seems to be broken, perhaps on OS X 10.11
 only?? make gets
 a lot of complaints on a missing Point definition like so:
 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/Quickdraw.h:286:102:
 error: unknown type name
 
 ? ? ? 'Point'
 
 typedef CALLBACK_API( short , QDTxMeasProcPtr )(short
 byteCount, const
 void *textAddr, Point *numer, Point *denom, FontInfo
 *info);
 
 A recent poster on JUCE's forum mentions the issue:
 http://www.juce.com/forum/topic/unknown-type-name-point
 
 Any help/workarounds appreciated. Thanks!
 Ben McAllister
 listenfaster.com
 
 
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From benmca at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 19:16:29 2016
From: benmca at gmail.com (Ben McAllister)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:16:29 -0800
Subject: [CM] Grace + Csound: Sandboxing issue on Mac
In-Reply-To: <613985788.5544404.1455653693254.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <613985788.5544404.1455653693254.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<613985788.5544404.1455653693254.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADtM24wsb=Nnzp5+UxkUAqOwG3oqbWiVp3aCLFxMv0qZaRTTOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Perfect! Thanks so much.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Aykut Caglayan
<aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You could download earlier releases via this link:
> http://camil.music.illinois.edu/software/grace/
>
> I'm using 3.9-beta6, which is working like 'Grace' unlike App Store release
>
>
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  Message: 1
>  Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:58:17 -0800
>  From: Ben McAllister <benmca at gmail.com>
>  To: cm list <Cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>  Subject: [CM] Grace + Csound: Sandboxing issue on Mac
>  Message-ID:
>
>  <CADtM24yZm2ZYd4VM65LJcL1t0_YxDCymzh5KfETWd3tLoHrM+A at mail.gmail.com>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>  Hello List,
>
>  In working through the tutorials in the 3.9 release through
>  the App
>  Store, I discovered I'm not able to run Csound from Grace.
>  Looks like
>  the app is built with sandboxing enabled, which prohibits it
>  from
>  executing my csound binary.  Maybe this is compulsory
>  when submitting?
>  I'm a developer, but haven't ever deployed a Mac app..
>  Grepping
>  through the Grace binary, I see the key
>  <key>com.apple.security.app-sandbox</key>
>  is set to true, at any
>  rate, hence my guess.
>
>  So - I figured I'd build my own Grace from source, but JUCE
>  compilation seems to be broken, perhaps on OS X 10.11
>  only?  make gets
>  a lot of complaints on a missing Point definition like so:
>
>  /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/Quickdraw.h:286:102:
>  error: unknown type name
>
>        'Point'
>
>  typedef CALLBACK_API( short , QDTxMeasProcPtr )(short
>  byteCount, const
>  void *textAddr, Point *numer, Point *denom, FontInfo
>  *info);
>
>  A recent poster on JUCE's forum mentions the issue:
>  http://www.juce.com/forum/topic/unknown-type-name-point
>
>  Any help/workarounds appreciated. Thanks!
>  Ben McAllister
>  listenfaster.com
>
>
>
>                ^
>
>
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From jwmatthys at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 16 21:13:55 2016
From: jwmatthys at yahoo.com (Joel Matthys)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:13:55 -0600
Subject: [CM] Scheme errors in fresh Grace build
Message-ID: <56C40193.7030003@yahoo.com>

Hello all. I just built Grace from source and all compiled fine, but 
when I open Grace I get:

Starting Grace...
Common Music 3.9.1 [Config=Debug]
Creating Windows Skin...Creating Console...OK!
Creating Preferences...OK!
applicationSupportDirectory=/home/jwmatthys/Grace
Creating OpenSoundControl...OK!
Creating Scheme...OK!
Creating AudioManager...
;play: unbound variable
;
; (set! *clm-player* play); ((set! *clm-srate* 44100) (set! *clm-chan...


;set! *clm-header-type*: unbound variable
;
; (set! *clm-header-type* mus-riff); ((set! *clm-data-format* 
mus-lshort) (set...
; ((set! *clm-srate* 44100) (set! *clm-chan...

Very little works now; "sprout" comes back as unbound, for instance.

Any suggestions for tracking down what is broken?

Thanks,
Joel


From taube at illinois.edu  Wed Feb 17 04:26:49 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:26:49 +0000
Subject: [CM] Scheme errors in fresh Grace build
In-Reply-To: <56C40193.7030003@yahoo.com>
References: <56C40193.7030003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <574A31AC-3361-4DC2-BC18-DF308A233900@illinois.edu>

not sure about the unbounds, Ill have to try to build it and take a look. 
On the sandboxing ? if you build grace but don?t add entitlements for apple store distruibution it should work fine but then you wont be able to distribute it. 


> On Feb 16, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Joel Matthys <jwmatthys at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all. I just built Grace from source and all compiled fine, but when I open Grace I get:
> 
> Starting Grace...
> Common Music 3.9.1 [Config=Debug]
> Creating Windows Skin...Creating Console...OK!
> Creating Preferences...OK!
> applicationSupportDirectory=/home/jwmatthys/Grace
> Creating OpenSoundControl...OK!
> Creating Scheme...OK!
> Creating AudioManager...
> ;play: unbound variable
> ;
> ; (set! *clm-player* play); ((set! *clm-srate* 44100) (set! *clm-chan...
> 
> 
> ;set! *clm-header-type*: unbound variable
> ;
> ; (set! *clm-header-type* mus-riff); ((set! *clm-data-format* mus-lshort) (set...
> ; ((set! *clm-srate* 44100) (set! *clm-chan...
> 
> Very little works now; "sprout" comes back as unbound, for instance.
> 
> Any suggestions for tracking down what is broken?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 10:02:45 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:02:45 -0800
Subject: [CM] installation problem on 64-bit ubuntu
Message-ID: <CAAn-Ecz_zExGiMz7WP8MxEF=BRaW3CB7JXyZF-ZLoXeAYKyXhw@mail.gmail.com>

Trying to follow the common music installation instructions from that site
I end up needing a later version of cmake than their package system
supports (cmake4.3)
and the cmake instructions for installing that later version fail also.
(The new cmake, despite a successful chmoding to 777, ends up returning 'no
such file or directory'.)

Help?
Forrest Curo
San Diego
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 12:30:02 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:30:02 -0800
Subject: [CM] installation problem on 64-bit ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-Ecz_zExGiMz7WP8MxEF=BRaW3CB7JXyZF-ZLoXeAYKyXhw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-Ecz_zExGiMz7WP8MxEF=BRaW3CB7JXyZF-ZLoXeAYKyXhw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAn-EcymzG3Jw8a1gQLOrT2Wg5o79h6xoy7GkDKDwW2mPwCtTA@mail.gmail.com>

A new development... I've found an ubuntu Grace binary at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/?source=typ_redirect

and this too returns, 'No such file or directory'

?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Trying to follow the common music installation instructions from that site
> I end up needing a later version of cmake than their package system
> supports (cmake4.3)
> and the cmake instructions for installing that later version fail also.
> (The new cmake, despite a successful chmoding to 777, ends up returning 'no
> such file or directory'.)
>
> Help?
> Forrest Curo
> San Diego
>
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 16:07:24 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:07:24 -0800
Subject: [CM] installation problem on 64-bit ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-EcymzG3Jw8a1gQLOrT2Wg5o79h6xoy7GkDKDwW2mPwCtTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-Ecz_zExGiMz7WP8MxEF=BRaW3CB7JXyZF-ZLoXeAYKyXhw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EcymzG3Jw8a1gQLOrT2Wg5o79h6xoy7GkDKDwW2mPwCtTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAn-EczTSRhRbeVfAWrsPDSsxJn-XRMTEZK8KN7tHGnGysjkYA@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, the following works.
After copying Grace into /usr/bin, a 64-bit system will still not be happy
with it.

So, I did:
sudo apt-get install libc6-i386

to generate the next error message and then:
sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386

and since it was still whining about libsound.so.something:
sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386

As the missing libraries get more and more obscure, it helps to start up
synaptic package manager, search for the name of the library and then exit
from synaptic, go back to the terminal
and put in
sudo apt-get-install [another !%@&*^# missing library's package]:i386

[repeat until done]

Finally one sees delight at the end of the tunnel (and now, to see if it
plays music after all!)

Forrest Curo

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A new development... I've found an ubuntu Grace binary at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/?source=typ_redirect
>
> and this too returns, 'No such file or directory'
>
> ?
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Trying to follow the common music installation instructions from that site
>> I end up needing a later version of cmake than their package system
>> supports (cmake4.3)
>> and the cmake instructions for installing that later version fail also.
>> (The new cmake, despite a successful chmoding to 777, ends up returning 'no
>> such file or directory'.)
>>
>> Help?
>> Forrest Curo
>> San Diego
>>
>
>
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 21:57:30 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:57:30 -0800
Subject: [CM] cm rendering audio through csound in real time?
Message-ID: <CAAn-Eczdth8Ra8-dKrGus+WGK76-y1aF=fFBEVL7e+TNkBe62w@mail.gmail.com>

What I have in mind would take notes generated-by or received (via midi) by
cm, send them in real-time

to a running instance of csound (which would handle the audio rendering)

while cm records notes & timing, fnurgles these in interesting ways, and
plays back the resulting notes through csound.

(I've noticed that specialized music programs & languages tend to hoard the
system's audio resources, which complicates things when one tries to run
two musical applications at once.
cm -- if I've got this right -- doesn't do that. And seems to have
advantages for manipulating note values, timing, etc., things which can be
done directly in csound, but relatively clumsily. )
--------------
The two programs could be linked via OSC, but the simplest way I've found
to send notes to csound is to run it with "-L somefifo" in the command
line, then throw score lines into that fifo.

[Is there some easier built-in provision for real-time csound in cm, or is
it pretty much limited to producing scores to be run later?]

--------------------------
Will I need to keep opening-&-closing the fifo, to keep it clearing the
buffer as soon as it's time for a new score line to play? (Many programs
tend to hang on to a file they're writing to, which leads to all the notes
being held until the file is closed, when they all burst out at once.)

Suggestions?

Forrest Curo
San Diego
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Thu Feb 18 13:09:33 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 13:09:33 -0800
Subject: [CM] installation problem on 64-bit ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-EczTSRhRbeVfAWrsPDSsxJn-XRMTEZK8KN7tHGnGysjkYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-Ecz_zExGiMz7WP8MxEF=BRaW3CB7JXyZF-ZLoXeAYKyXhw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EcymzG3Jw8a1gQLOrT2Wg5o79h6xoy7GkDKDwW2mPwCtTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EczTSRhRbeVfAWrsPDSsxJn-XRMTEZK8KN7tHGnGysjkYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAn-EcxBT4ZU1p0YyEK1BJKHexQ0sTjnmUX29daFHL6LYkk6wQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2nd computer (where I volunteer at a church computer lab)
also running ubuntu 15.10
I've done the same messy installation process
and can run Grace as root.

If I'm not in my Superuser suit it simply exits, no error messages.
?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, the following works.
> After copying Grace into /usr/bin, a 64-bit system will still not be happy
> with it.
>
> So, I did:
> sudo apt-get install libc6-i386
>
> to generate the next error message and then:
> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> and since it was still whining about libsound.so.something:
> sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386
>
> As the missing libraries get more and more obscure, it helps to start up
> synaptic package manager, search for the name of the library and then exit
> from synaptic, go back to the terminal
> and put in
> sudo apt-get-install [another !%@&*^# missing library's package]:i386
>
> [repeat until done]
>
> Finally one sees delight at the end of the tunnel (and now, to see if it
> plays music after all!)
>
> Forrest Curo
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A new development... I've found an ubuntu Grace binary at
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/?source=typ_redirect
>>
>> and this too returns, 'No such file or directory'
>>
>> ?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to follow the common music installation instructions from that
>>> site
>>> I end up needing a later version of cmake than their package system
>>> supports (cmake4.3)
>>> and the cmake instructions for installing that later version fail also.
>>> (The new cmake, despite a successful chmoding to 777, ends up returning 'no
>>> such file or directory'.)
>>>
>>> Help?
>>> Forrest Curo
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>
>>
>
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Thu Feb 18 21:10:16 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:10:16 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
Message-ID: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>

I see a tutorial on sending midi out

and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific opcodes

but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
extract the data when a midi message comes in.

Examples anywhere?
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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Fri Feb 19 05:56:40 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:56:40 -0500
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
Message-ID: <44585F03-380A-4A94-8039-1C76F4678CA5@presby.edu>

The following

(define one (new midi :time 0 
		:keynum 60 :duration 2))

gives ?new? as an unbound variable.  I?m taking this straight from the Notes From the Metalevel book?..am I missing something?

Also, when I save a .lisp file, it doesn?t track changes.  I can ?save as?? with the same filename & it?ll save the changes, but a regular ?save? command won?t save any changes.

Thanks in advance & sorry for such a low-level question.
Rob

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Academic Computing Services Coordinator
Assisstant Professor of Music
rhowiler at presby.edu
(864) 833-8324
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 07:59:43 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:59:43 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAn-EcywLLhMVQe361s=dGAUHEPNpfXf=vwC+nhEySpBYh8Udg@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not, to my
mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
and the examples have errors:
ie

; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
; Note On arrives

function mychord (data)
  with channel = second(data),
       keynum = third(data),
       velocity = fourth(data)
  send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
  send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
  send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
end

;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)

send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)

;; when you are done clear it...

send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
-----------------------------------------------------------

It can be fixed, however. This works:
-------------------------------------------------------------
function mychord (data)
  with channel = second(data),
       keynum = third(data),
       velocity = fourth(data)
  send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
  send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
  send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
end

;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)

send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see a tutorial on sending midi out
>
> and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific
> opcodes
>
> but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
> extract the data when a midi message comes in.
>
> Examples anywhere?
>
>
>
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 08:04:56 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:04:56 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-EcywLLhMVQe361s=dGAUHEPNpfXf=vwC+nhEySpBYh8Udg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EcywLLhMVQe361s=dGAUHEPNpfXf=vwC+nhEySpBYh8Udg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAn-EczpAvm3TmN-42+3NUM1F=ahLWzx026BjKxuhFqGU5QRtg@mail.gmail.com>

The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the first
title I'd look for this under.)

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not, to
> my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
> and the examples have errors:
> ie
>
> ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
> ; Note On arrives
>
> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> end
>
> ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
>
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
>
> ;; when you are done clear it...
>
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> It can be fixed, however. This works:
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> end
>
> ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
>
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I see a tutorial on sending midi out
>>
>> and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific
>> opcodes
>>
>> but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
>> extract the data when a midi message comes in.
>>
>> Examples anywhere?
>>
>>
>>
>
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From: aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com (Aykut Caglayan)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:19:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
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Hi there, 

> (define one (new midi :time 0 
>??? ??? :keynum 60 :duration 2))
I assume you are trying to define a function which sends a midi note out.If this is the case, 
first define it as follows:
(define (one ) (send "mp:midi" :time 0 :key 60 :dur 1)
;and fire ;
(one )
Sincerely,Ike
PS: I tested it on Grace 3.8, I doubt it if it works with older cm-emacs environment
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Feb 19 09:46:01 2016
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:46:01 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 16.3
Message-ID: <86f5dffea2046548dd660334e6b4f514@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Snd 16.3

added s7 profiler if WITH_PROFILE is set, profile.scm.
moved multiple-value-set! macro to stuff.scm
port-line-number is settable (for fancy #readers)
*cload-directory* (a string) for cload output files (default is "")
removed quasiquoted vector support (it was disabled by default)

checked: gtk 3.19.7|8|9, sbcl 1.3.2

Thanks!: Kjetil Matheussen, Nando, IOhannes m zm?lnig, Mike Scholz.

(all my time goes to lint.scm)



From taube at illinois.edu  Fri Feb 19 10:43:25 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:43:25 +0000
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
In-Reply-To: <CAAn-EczpAvm3TmN-42+3NUM1F=ahLWzx026BjKxuhFqGU5QRtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EcywLLhMVQe361s=dGAUHEPNpfXf=vwC+nhEySpBYh8Udg@mail.gmail.com>
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its not clear to me what the issue is. does it not work.
BTW no need to use send() and just call the function directly so

> send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)

can be written

mp:midi(key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)

i thought I got rid of all that in the documentation and help files.


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the first title I'd look for this under.)
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not, to my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
> and the examples have errors:
> ie
> 
> ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
> ; Note On arrives
> 
> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),       
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> end
> 
> ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> 
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> 
> ;; when you are done clear it...
> 
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> It can be fixed, however. This works:
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),       
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> end
> 
> ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> 
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord) 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see a tutorial on sending midi out
> 
> and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific opcodes
> 
> but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to extract the data when a midi message comes in.
> 
> Examples anywhere?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> https://cm-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist




From taube at illinois.edu  Fri Feb 19 10:45:00 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:45:00 +0000
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
In-Reply-To: <44585F03-380A-4A94-8039-1C76F4678CA5@presby.edu>
References: <44585F03-380A-4A94-8039-1C76F4678CA5@presby.edu>
Message-ID: <1A4975DA-529F-458D-944B-D72597FF9F66@illinois.edu>

Are you using scheme, or common lisp?
The book is many years old now and meanwhile the software has evolved.

once you tell me what version so fthe software you are using and the example you are using I can help you



> On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Rob Howiler <rhowiler at presby.edu> wrote:
> 
> The following
> 
> (define one (new midi :time 0 
> 		:keynum 60 :duration 2))
> 
> gives ?new? as an unbound variable.  I?m taking this straight from the Notes From the Metalevel book?..am I missing something?
> 
> Also, when I save a .lisp file, it doesn?t track changes.  I can ?save as?? with the same filename & it?ll save the changes, but a regular ?save? command won?t save any changes.
> 
> Thanks in advance & sorry for such a low-level question.
> Rob
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Rob Howiler
> Academic Computing Services Coordinator
> Assisstant Professor of Music
> rhowiler at presby.edu
> (864) 833-8324
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> ------------------------------
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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Fri Feb 19 10:51:49 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:51:49 -0500
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
In-Reply-To: <1A4975DA-529F-458D-944B-D72597FF9F66@illinois.edu>
References: <44585F03-380A-4A94-8039-1C76F4678CA5@presby.edu>
	<1A4975DA-529F-458D-944B-D72597FF9F66@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <B6FB0619-B564-403F-B372-4F6A6FCB483E@presby.edu>

I?m using version 3.9.0 - I?m pretty sure I?m using common lisp.  The example is ?interaction 2.  Generating a MIDI event to a MIDI file.? in chapter 12 (Etudes, Op.4: Score Generation).

I?ve noticed that some of the examples in the book don?t work anymore - perfectly understandable.  To be honest, it?s been ?fun? trying to chase down some of the problems on my own.  Helps me learn the language and concepts.  I just can?t seem to chase this one down on my own.  

My plan is to write to a MIDI file and then dump that into Logic for playback.  (eventually I plan to use CM to control CSound, but it seems to be a ways off?.)
Thanks for any help.
Rob
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
> Are you using scheme, or common lisp?
> The book is many years old now and meanwhile the software has evolved.
> 
> once you tell me what version so fthe software you are using and the example you are using I can help you
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Rob Howiler <rhowiler at presby.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> The following
>> 
>> (define one (new midi :time 0 
>> 		:keynum 60 :duration 2))
>> 
>> gives ?new? as an unbound variable.  I?m taking this straight from the Notes From the Metalevel book?..am I missing something?
>> 
>> Also, when I save a .lisp file, it doesn?t track changes.  I can ?save as?? with the same filename & it?ll save the changes, but a regular ?save? command won?t save any changes.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance & sorry for such a low-level question.
>> Rob
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Dr. Rob Howiler
>> Academic Computing Services Coordinator
>> Assisstant Professor of Music
>> rhowiler at presby.edu
>> (864) 833-8324
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> <http://www.presby.edu>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> https://cm-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
> 


------------------------------------------------------
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Academic Computing Services Coordinator
Assisstant Professor of Music
rhowiler at presby.edu
(864) 833-8324
-------------------------------------------------------


-- 

------------------------------
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From taube at illinois.edu  Fri Feb 19 11:08:49 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:08:49 +0000
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
In-Reply-To: <B6FB0619-B564-403F-B372-4F6A6FCB483E@presby.edu>
References: <44585F03-380A-4A94-8039-1C76F4678CA5@presby.edu>
	<1A4975DA-529F-458D-944B-D72597FF9F66@illinois.edu>
	<B6FB0619-B564-403F-B372-4F6A6FCB483E@presby.edu>
Message-ID: <D67AE982-3C17-471B-BBC3-260D4AD7A376@illinois.edu>

if you are on a mac  no need to write files -- just send midi to the  IAC Driver bus and then have logic read from it. .

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Rob Howiler <rhowiler at presby.edu> wrote:
> 
> My plan is to write to a MIDI file and then dump that into Logic for playback.  (eventually I plan to use CM to control CSound, but it seems to be a ways off?.)
> Thanks for any help.




From treegestalt at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 14:19:09 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:19:09 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
In-Reply-To: <08C79CAC-B367-4FD9-9984-B9CACCED9407@illinois.edu>
References: <CAAn-EcyFAG9M2HJAG_OLNEgiD-t92U32ij8fQAdQ2weBeg0YVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EcywLLhMVQe361s=dGAUHEPNpfXf=vwC+nhEySpBYh8Udg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAn-EczpAvm3TmN-42+3NUM1F=ahLWzx026BjKxuhFqGU5QRtg@mail.gmail.com>
	<08C79CAC-B367-4FD9-9984-B9CACCED9407@illinois.edu>
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function mychord (data)
  with channel = second(data),
       keynum = third(data),
       velocity = fourth(data)
  send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
  send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
  send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
end
-------------
response: 'mychord'
-------------
send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
------------------
response: '#t'
-------------------
[play note]
------------------
response:
>>> Error: :vel not a valid keyword argument in
(:key key :vel vel :chan chan)
------------------------------------

That is, it doesn't work in that example because it needs a variable
'velocity' rather than 'vel'. (?)

If I fix that and likewise put the variable 'channel' in place of 'chan',
'keynum' rather than 'key' -- *then it works*.

Since I'm working with an ubuntu binary of 3.8.0 I might not be using the
latest examples available(?) [I couldn't install a more recent Grace
because my system seems to be allergic to cmake > cmake4.3 --
(perhaps for similar 32-bit --> 64-bit issues?)
-------------
If I get rid of the 'send's in the mp.midi lines
the error instead is:
>>> Error: vel: unbound variable
and changing everything as before yields:

>>> Error: mp:midi: unknown key: (:vel 91 :chan 0)
in (:key 59 :vel 91 :chan 0)

The 'send' and the 'mp:midi' ought to be equivalent; but it's working with
the 'send' version, while I don't see why:
  mp:midi(key: keynum, vel: velocity, chan: channel)
is not.
(?)




On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> its not clear to me what the issue is. does it not work.
> BTW no need to use send() and just call the function directly so
>
> > send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>
> can be written
>
> mp:midi(key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>
> i thought I got rid of all that in the documentation and help files.
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the
> first title I'd look for this under.)
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not, to
> my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
> > and the examples have errors:
> > ie
> >
> > ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
> > ; Note On arrives
> >
> > function mychord (data)
> >   with channel = second(data),
> >        keynum = third(data),
> >        velocity = fourth(data)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > end
> >
> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> >
> > ;; when you are done clear it...
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > It can be fixed, however. This works:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > function mychord (data)
> >   with channel = second(data),
> >        keynum = third(data),
> >        velocity = fourth(data)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> > end
> >
> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I see a tutorial on sending midi out
> >
> > and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific
> opcodes
> >
> > but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
> extract the data when a midi message comes in.
> >
> > Examples anywhere?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cmdist mailing list
> > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> > https://cm-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
>
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 20:46:20 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:46:20 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
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Given that the error isn't from the current distribution, I suppose there's
no issue...

Ah, I seem to have finally bumbled through installing 3.9.0, thanks!

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:

> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> end
> -------------
> response: 'mychord'
> -------------
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> ------------------
> response: '#t'
> -------------------
> [play note]
> ------------------
> response:
> >>> Error: :vel not a valid keyword argument in
> (:key key :vel vel :chan chan)
> ------------------------------------
>
> That is, it doesn't work in that example because it needs a variable
> 'velocity' rather than 'vel'. (?)
>
> If I fix that and likewise put the variable 'channel' in place of 'chan',
> 'keynum' rather than 'key' -- *then it works*.
>
> Since I'm working with an ubuntu binary of 3.8.0 I might not be using the
> latest examples available(?) [I couldn't install a more recent Grace
> because my system seems to be allergic to cmake > cmake4.3 --
> (perhaps for similar 32-bit --> 64-bit issues?)
> -------------
> If I get rid of the 'send's in the mp.midi lines
> the error instead is:
> >>> Error: vel: unbound variable
> and changing everything as before yields:
>
> >>> Error: mp:midi: unknown key: (:vel 91 :chan 0)
> in (:key 59 :vel 91 :chan 0)
>
> The 'send' and the 'mp:midi' ought to be equivalent; but it's working with
> the 'send' version, while I don't see why:
>   mp:midi(key: keynum, vel: velocity, chan: channel)
> is not.
> (?)
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> its not clear to me what the issue is. does it not work.
>> BTW no need to use send() and just call the function directly so
>>
>> > send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>>
>> can be written
>>
>> mp:midi(key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>>
>> i thought I got rid of all that in the documentation and help files.
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the
>> first title I'd look for this under.)
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not,
>> to my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
>> > and the examples have errors:
>> > ie
>> >
>> > ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
>> > ; Note On arrives
>> >
>> > function mychord (data)
>> >   with channel = second(data),
>> >        keynum = third(data),
>> >        velocity = fourth(data)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>> > end
>> >
>> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
>> >
>> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
>> >
>> > ;; when you are done clear it...
>> >
>> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > It can be fixed, however. This works:
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>> > function mychord (data)
>> >   with channel = second(data),
>> >        keynum = third(data),
>> >        velocity = fourth(data)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
>> > end
>> >
>> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
>> >
>> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I see a tutorial on sending midi out
>> >
>> > and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific
>> opcodes
>> >
>> > but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
>> extract the data when a midi message comes in.
>> >
>> > Examples anywhere?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Cmdist mailing list
>> > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
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From taube at illinois.edu  Sat Feb 20 05:37:17 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:37:17 +0000
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
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if you are in 3.9.0 and its working as you expect im happy!

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Given that the error isn't from the current distribution, I suppose there's no issue...
> 
> Ah, I seem to have finally bumbled through installing 3.9.0, thanks!
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> function mychord (data)
>   with channel = second(data),
>        keynum = third(data),       
>        velocity = fourth(data)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
>   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> end 
> -------------
> response: 'mychord'
> -------------
> send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord) 
> ------------------
> response: '#t'
> -------------------
> [play note]
> ------------------
> response:
> >>> Error: :vel not a valid keyword argument in 
> (:key key :vel vel :chan chan) 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> That is, it doesn't work in that example because it needs a variable 'velocity' rather than 'vel'. (?)
> 
> If I fix that and likewise put the variable 'channel' in place of 'chan', 'keynum' rather than 'key' -- then it works.
> 
> Since I'm working with an ubuntu binary of 3.8.0 I might not be using the latest examples available(?) [I couldn't install a more recent Grace because my system seems to be allergic to cmake > cmake4.3 -- 
> (perhaps for similar 32-bit --> 64-bit issues?)
> -------------
> If I get rid of the 'send's in the mp.midi lines
> the error instead is:
> >>> Error: vel: unbound variable 
> and changing everything as before yields:
> 
> >>> Error: mp:midi: unknown key: (:vel 91 :chan 0) 
> in (:key 59 :vel 91 :chan 0) 
> 
> The 'send' and the 'mp:midi' ought to be equivalent; but it's working with the 'send' version, while I don't see why:
>   mp:midi(key: keynum, vel: velocity, chan: channel) 
> is not.
> (?)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu> wrote:
> its not clear to me what the issue is. does it not work.
> BTW no need to use send() and just call the function directly so
> 
> > send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> 
> can be written
> 
> mp:midi(key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> 
> i thought I got rid of all that in the documentation and help files.
> 
> 
> > On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the first title I'd look for this under.)
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not, to my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
> > and the examples have errors:
> > ie
> >
> > ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
> > ; Note On arrives
> >
> > function mychord (data)
> >   with channel = second(data),
> >        keynum = third(data),
> >        velocity = fourth(data)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > end
> >
> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> >
> > ;; when you are done clear it...
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > It can be fixed, however. This works:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > function mychord (data)
> >   with channel = second(data),
> >        keynum = third(data),
> >        velocity = fourth(data)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> > end
> >
> > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> >
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I see a tutorial on sending midi out
> >
> > and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific opcodes
> >
> > but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to extract the data when a midi message comes in.
> >
> > Examples anywhere?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cmdist mailing list
> > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> > https://cm-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
> 
> 
> 
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From treegestalt at gmail.com  Sat Feb 20 08:10:07 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:10:07 -0800
Subject: [CM] midi-received functions
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I'm quite happy! --

and given how much blundering & hassle an inexperienced user can enjoy in
the installation process --

Would my compiled binary be useful on sourceforge -- What's the proper way
to check that possibility out?

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> if you are in 3.9.0 and its working as you expect im happy!
>
> > On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Given that the error isn't from the current distribution, I suppose
> there's no issue...
> >
> > Ah, I seem to have finally bumbled through installing 3.9.0, thanks!
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > function mychord (data)
> >   with channel = second(data),
> >        keynum = third(data),
> >        velocity = fourth(data)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > end
> > -------------
> > response: 'mychord'
> > -------------
> > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> > ------------------
> > response: '#t'
> > -------------------
> > [play note]
> > ------------------
> > response:
> > >>> Error: :vel not a valid keyword argument in
> > (:key key :vel vel :chan chan)
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > That is, it doesn't work in that example because it needs a variable
> 'velocity' rather than 'vel'. (?)
> >
> > If I fix that and likewise put the variable 'channel' in place of
> 'chan', 'keynum' rather than 'key' -- then it works.
> >
> > Since I'm working with an ubuntu binary of 3.8.0 I might not be using
> the latest examples available(?) [I couldn't install a more recent Grace
> because my system seems to be allergic to cmake > cmake4.3 --
> > (perhaps for similar 32-bit --> 64-bit issues?)
> > -------------
> > If I get rid of the 'send's in the mp.midi lines
> > the error instead is:
> > >>> Error: vel: unbound variable
> > and changing everything as before yields:
> >
> > >>> Error: mp:midi: unknown key: (:vel 91 :chan 0)
> > in (:key 59 :vel 91 :chan 0)
> >
> > The 'send' and the 'mp:midi' ought to be equivalent; but it's working
> with the 'send' version, while I don't see why:
> >   mp:midi(key: keynum, vel: velocity, chan: channel)
> > is not.
> > (?)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Taube, Heinrich K <taube at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
> > its not clear to me what the issue is. does it not work.
> > BTW no need to use send() and just call the function directly so
> >
> > > send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >
> > can be written
> >
> > mp:midi(key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> >
> > i thought I got rid of all that in the documentation and help files.
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > The section is "Input Hooks" (speaking of errors... but still not the
> first title I'd look for this under.)
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Okay, among 'examples' there is a section titled 'Output Hooks' (not,
> to my mind, the most obvious titles to look for)
> > > and the examples have errors:
> > > ie
> > >
> > > ; An opcode receiver that plays a major or minor chord whenever a
> > > ; Note On arrives
> > >
> > > function mychord (data)
> > >   with channel = second(data),
> > >        keynum = third(data),
> > >        velocity = fourth(data)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: key, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: key + pick(3,4), vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: key + 7, vel: vel, chan: chan)
> > > end
> > >
> > > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> > >
> > > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> > >
> > > ;; when you are done clear it...
> > >
> > > send("mp:receive", mm:on, #f)
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > It can be fixed, however. This works:
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > function mychord (data)
> > >   with channel = second(data),
> > >        keynum = third(data),
> > >        velocity = fourth(data)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + pick(3,4), amp: velocity, chan:
> channel)
> > >   send("mp:midi", key: keynum + 7, amp: velocity, chan: channel)
> > > end
> > >
> > > ;; assign receiver for the mm:on opcode (Note Ons)
> > >
> > > send("mp:receive", mm:on, mychord)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I see a tutorial on sending midi out
> > >
> > > and ways to declare a function to be receiving midi in with specific
> opcodes
> > >
> > > but I'm not at all clear on how such a function should be written to
> extract the data when a midi message comes in.
> > >
> > > Examples anywhere?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cmdist mailing list
> > > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> > > https://cm-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
> >
> >
> >
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From benmca at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 10:48:13 2016
From: benmca at gmail.com (Ben McAllister)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 10:48:13 -0800
Subject: [CM] Community of Grace/CM users?
Message-ID: <CADtM24xC3i7QGh5c_Dv7MX_YsYGBApr57=PUXv=H09Xhbw_smw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I studied Computer Music with Richard Karpen in the 90s at University
of Washington, where CM 1.4 and Csound were the tools of the day. I've
been having a blast these past few weeks re-writing my CM 1.x pieces
in Grace / CM3! Really great job on Grace - thanks so much for the
documentation and examples in Grace. I found the tutorials and
examples very easy to follow. I'd like to find a way to contribute
more examples as I work through resuscitating my old work :)

I build software for a living, but haven't used Lisp for anything
except music. It would be helpful for me to have a better view of
where Common Music sits alongside Lisp, Scheme, and S7. If I
understand correctly, Scheme is a 'dialect' of Lisp with a rich
community of users, and S7 is an extension of Scheme. Have I got that
right?

So, specifically to Grace, does this mean any Scheme code should run
from a Grace editor window?

As I refresh my memory on how to do relatively simple things in
Scheme, I'm not sure if they're intended to be supported in Scheme. To
take one random example, I assume I can consult the latest Scheme docs
online to figure out whether or not there's an (nth x y) function in
Scheme like there is in CL - there isn't, but it's straightforward to
code up:

(define (nth n l)
  (if (or (> n (length l)) (< n 0))
    (error "Index out of bounds.")
    (if (eq? n 0)
      (car l)
      (nth (- n 1) (cdr l)))))


Lastly, besides maybe Stack Overflow, it doesn't look like there is a
place online where users can convene and share experiences and code
except this mailing list. True?

Thanks for reading and once again, great work!
 --
Ben McAllister | listenfaster.com |  @listenfaster


From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Feb 21 12:35:52 2016
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:35:52 -0800
Subject: [CM] =?utf-8?q?Community_of_Grace/CM_users=3F?=
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A small typo: I think you meant

(define (nth n l)
   (if (or (>= n (length l)) (< n 0))
     (error "Index out of bounds.")
     (if (eq? n 0)
       (car l)
       (nth (- n 1) (cdr l)))))

The various Schemes are less alike than the various Common Lisps --
Scheme exists in something like 40 implementations, and the implementors
tend to be cantankerous and disdainful of standards.  So online docs can 
be
misleading.  s7.html describes s7, and I try to stay within shouting
distance of the r7rs standard, but I'd say s7 is a hybrid of what
Scheme ought to be and what Common Lisp mostly is.  There is
often an "apropos" or "help" function to check if something
is already defined.



From andersvi at notam02.no  Sun Feb 21 14:40:31 2016
From: andersvi at notam02.no (andersvi at notam02.no)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:40:31 +0100
Subject: [CM] Community of Grace/CM users?
References: <CADtM24xC3i7QGh5c_Dv7MX_YsYGBApr57=PUXv=H09Xhbw_smw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87mvqt7km8.fsf@bek.no>

>>>>> "B" == Ben McAllister writes:

    B> As I refresh my memory on how to do relatively simple things in
    B> Scheme, I'm not sure if they're intended to be supported in Scheme. To
    B> take one random example, I assume I can consult the latest Scheme docs
    B> online to figure out whether or not there's an (nth x y) function in
    B> Scheme like there is in CL - there isn't, but it's straightforward to
    B> code up:

Scheme is 'schemed', but many of the obvious higher level constructs are
standardised through the various rNrs'es.

You might have to look for different names (and possibly different
semantics) from CL, fex. list-ref in scheme.

-anders



From treegestalt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 16:34:34 2016
From: treegestalt at gmail.com (Forrest Curo)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:34:34 -0800
Subject: [CM] cm rendering audio through csound in real time?
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If I name my fifo 'fefi.sco' I ought to be able to write to it from Grace
... but so far I'm not succeeding.

I'm assuming (!) Grace would open this in 'append' mode (?)

and have some provision for closing the file. Exiting the program? Stopping
evaluation?

So far, no luck! ?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Forrest Curo <treegestalt at gmail.com> wrote:

> What I have in mind would take notes generated-by or received (via midi)
> by cm, send them in real-time
>
> to a running instance of csound (which would handle the audio rendering)
>
> while cm records notes & timing, fnurgles these in interesting ways, and
> plays back the resulting notes through csound.
>
> (I've noticed that specialized music programs & languages tend to hoard
> the system's audio resources, which complicates things when one tries to
> run two musical applications at once.
> cm -- if I've got this right -- doesn't do that. And seems to have
> advantages for manipulating note values, timing, etc., things which can be
> done directly in csound, but relatively clumsily. )
> --------------
> The two programs could be linked via OSC, but the simplest way I've found
> to send notes to csound is to run it with "-L somefifo" in the command
> line, then throw score lines into that fifo.
>
> [Is there some easier built-in provision for real-time csound in cm, or is
> it pretty much limited to producing scores to be run later?]
>
> --------------------------
> Will I need to keep opening-&-closing the fifo, to keep it clearing the
> buffer as soon as it's time for a new score line to play? (Many programs
> tend to hang on to a file they're writing to, which leads to all the notes
> being held until the file is closed, when they all burst out at once.)
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Forrest Curo
> San Diego
>
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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Mon Feb 22 05:54:54 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:54:54 -0500
Subject: [CM] newbie question (sorry)
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Thanks.  That worked like a charm.

Is there any documentation for the ?mp:midi? syntax?  I imagine there is more that are more parameters I could control?.?

I don?t want to keep posting newbie questions to the list, but I want to get started on making some real music.  I?m still learning the language of Lisp/Common Music, but I feel like I?m ready to start making some music. 

Also, I?ve found an example to write a midi file that seems to work great, but again I?d like to know some more about the with-midi and mp:midi ?commands?.  

	(with-midi (?test.mid?)
		(loop for t to 4 by .25
			do (mp:midi t 5 (between 48 84) .1)))

Thanks a whole bunch for getting me this far.
Rob

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Aykut Caglayan <aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there, 
> 
> > (define one (new midi :time 0 
> >        :keynum 60 :duration 2))
> 
> I assume you are trying to define a function which sends a midi note out.
> If this is the case, 
> first define it as follows:
> 
> (define (one ) (send "mp:midi" :time 0 :key 60 :dur 1)
> 
> ;and fire ;
> 
> (one )
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ike
> 
> PS: I tested it on Grace 3.8, I doubt it if it works with older cm-emacs environment


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From gary at music.mcgill.ca  Mon Feb 22 09:04:54 2016
From: gary at music.mcgill.ca (Gary Scavone)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:04:54 -0500
Subject: [CM] snd for OS-X?
Message-ID: <012512AE-DD16-4F1B-9195-5DA9D54EF21A@music.mcgill.ca>

Many years ago, Bill created binary versions of snd that worked on OS-X.  I see some older pages on the CCRMA website about compiling it with Fink, but it seems these may be out-of-date. Do you know if anyone has done this lately and/or if someone is providing binary versions of snd for OS-X?

Regards,

?gary


From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Feb 22 09:53:34 2016
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:53:34 -0800
Subject: [CM] =?utf-8?q?snd_for_OS-X=3F?=
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References: <012512AE-DD16-4F1B-9195-5DA9D54EF21A@music.mcgill.ca>
Message-ID: <ee315aa8bd5894c1283a5eeb2be4bf11@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Since fink days, I tried darwinports(?) and
brew, and managed to make a complete mess
of my Mac.  I think I have brew (or is it homebrew?)
installed, and with that it used to be possible
to get gtk on the Mac, but the result was
very disappointing.  But that was a long
time ago.  I'll try to get up the courage to
run (home)brew again and see what happens.



From k.s.matheussen at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 10:02:52 2016
From: k.s.matheussen at gmail.com (Kjetil Matheussen)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:02:52 +0100
Subject: [CM] snd for OS-X?
In-Reply-To: <ee315aa8bd5894c1283a5eeb2be4bf11@ccrma.stanford.edu>
References: <012512AE-DD16-4F1B-9195-5DA9D54EF21A@music.mcgill.ca>
	<ee315aa8bd5894c1283a5eeb2be4bf11@ccrma.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <CAC6niEL_VJNtkaH6rQwj=P=ZZgNEKh-oK12gi+_aexRh1ba9mw@mail.gmail.com>

You can also cross-compile on Linux, if you don't want to mess up a real
mac:
https://github.com/tpoechtrager/osxcross

osxcross provides macports, so you can do for instance
"osxcross-macports install gtk2" to install gtk2. (hopefully)
https://github.com/tpoechtrager/osxcross/blob/master/README.MACPORTS.md

I use this one to compile Radium. It was painless to set up, but maybe I
was lucky.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, <bil at ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:

> Since fink days, I tried darwinports(?) and
> brew, and managed to make a complete mess
> of my Mac.  I think I have brew (or is it homebrew?)
> installed, and with that it used to be possible
> to get gtk on the Mac, but the result was
> very disappointing.  But that was a long
> time ago.  I'll try to get up the courage to
> run (home)brew again and see what happens.
>
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From benmca at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 23:23:57 2016
From: benmca at gmail.com (Ben McAllister)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:23:57 -0800
Subject: [CM] sprout + csound question
Message-ID: <CADtM24yXfoDGJ22hTUpDn+abUkADasxSf+CD3DWKHnfj=haQDQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a process which works fine when I sprout a single time like so:

(define (remix len tem)
    (process repeat len
...
))

(sprout (remix 20 180) "remix.sco" :play #t :orchestra "sndwarp.orc"
:header "my header string")

Is there a way to sprout multiple processes to be played back in
csound - something like:

(sprout
 (list
   (remix 10 180)
   (remix 10 90)
))

or

(sprout
 (list
   (remix 10 90) "remix.sco" :play #t :orchestra "sndwarp.orc" :header
"f1 0 262144 1 \"jam.aif\" 0  0 0\nf2 0 16384 9 .5 1 0
\n"
   (remix 10 90) "remix.sco" :play #t :orchestra "sndwarp.orc" :header
"f1 0 262144 1 \"jam.aif\" 0  0 0\nf2 0 16384 9 .5 1 0
\n"
))

?

I'm on Mac OS 10.11, I see my csound orc and header correctly
initialized in the Audio Settings dialog, and I'm getting csound audio
just fine when calling sprout with a single process - just unsure if
this is supported syntax for sprout.

Thanks in advance!
b


From rhowiler at presby.edu  Tue Feb 23 05:51:59 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:51:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] basic question (newbie still)
Message-ID: <EA9C948F-9BA4-49D9-A322-83B74C945C25@presby.edu>

I?m trying to work through this exercise.

This works as it should?..
-------------------
(define (strum2 key1 key2 rate dur amp)
  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
      (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
    (process repeat (+ diff 14)
             for key from key1 by 1
             for beg from 0 by rate
             do
             (mp:midi :key key :time beg))))
;;(execute)
(sprout (strum2 60 72 .15 .25 .1))
???????????



This works, but it gives an immediate chord instead of a ?scale??.
--------------------

(define (strum3 key1 key2 beat dur amp)
  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
        (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
    (process repeat (+ diff 1)
             for key from key1 by step
             for beg = (now)
             do
             (mp:midi :key key)
             wait beat)))
;;;execute
(sprout (strum3 60 63 10 10 .1))
????????????


This seems to work, but I get no sound at all.  No errors, just no sound.
????????????
(define (strum3 key1 key2 beat dur amp)
  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
        (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
    (process repeat (+ diff 1)
             for key from key1 by step
             for beg = (now)
             do
             (mp:midi :key key :time beg)
             wait beat)))
;;;execute
(sprout (strum3 60 63 10 10 .1))
???????????????

Any help would be appreciated.  I?m going by an outdated example in the Notes From the Metalevel Book which suggests using the output (new midi :time (now) :duration?.. etc.  The "new midi" isn?t being recognized.  I understand the language has changed since the book was written, so I?m trying to get my head around the way things work now.

Thanks again in advance.
Rob



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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Tue Feb 23 08:37:57 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:37:57 -0500
Subject: [CM] Fwd: basic question (newbie still)
References: <EA9C948F-9BA4-49D9-A322-83B74C945C25@presby.edu>
Message-ID: <F5C29DFC-6762-4BE0-A60E-7E23A09C879F@presby.edu>

I?ve worked out the problem a bit.  Thanks.  Like I said, I?m sort of flying my the seat of my pants here?.
This:
????
> (define (strum3 key1 key2 beat dur amp)
>  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
>        (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
>    (process repeat (+ diff 1)
>             for key from key1 by step
>             for beg = (now)
>             do
>             (mp:midi :key key)
>             wait beat)))
> ;;;execute
> (sprout (strum3 60 63 10 10 .1))
should be this??with wait enclose like  (wait)
????????
> (define (strum3 key1 key2 beat dur amp)
>  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
>        (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
>    (process repeat (+ diff 1)
>             for key from key1 by step
>             for beg = (now)
>             do
>             (mp:midi :key key)
>             (wait beat))))
> ;;;execute
> (sprout (strum3 60 63 10 10 .1))

That seems to do the trick to get playback as a ?scale? & not a chord.
But this still gives no output:
??????????
> (define (strum3 key1 key2 beat dur amp)
>  (let ((step (if (< key2 key1) -1 1))
>        (diff (abs (- key2 key1))))
>    (process repeat (+ diff 1)
>             for key from key1 by step
>             for beg = (now)
>             do
>             (mp:midi :key key)
>             wait beat)))
> ;;;execute
> (sprout (strum3 60 63 10 10 .1))


> 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  I?m going by an outdated example in the Notes From the Metalevel Book which suggests using the output (new midi :time (now) :duration?.. etc.  The "new midi" isn?t being recognized.  I understand the language has changed since the book was written, so I?m trying to get my head around the way things work now.
> 
> Thanks again in advance.
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
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> Assisstant Professor of Music
> rhowiler at presby.edu
> (864) 833-8324
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> 


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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Tue Feb 23 13:05:04 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:05:04 -0500
Subject: [CM] help with repeated notes not running through a list...
Message-ID: <CADaDOntZV0eMGoft9rW7hN6eF4E8OgPo54mxUGLpPWRKxweW9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi - When I execute this last bit, I don't get a random distribution of
octaves the way I *think* I am supposed to.  It doesn't seem to cycle
through the row, it just puts out a repeated pitch.

Also, when I try to use :time (now) in the mp:midi section, I get no
sound.  If I use :time 0, things work fine.

Any help would really be appreciated.
Rob
-----------------------------------------

(define (chance? prob)
  (< (random 1.0) prob))

(define (keynum->pc k)
  (mod k 12))

(define (retrograde-row row)
  (reverse row))

(define (transpose-row row to)
(loop for pc in row
      collect (keynum->pc (+ pc))))

(define (invert-row row)
  (loop for pc in row
        collect (keynum->pc (- 12 pc))))

(define row1 '(0 1 6 7 10 11 5 4 3 9 2 8))
(define row2 (invert-row row1))
(define row3 (retrograde-row row1))
(define row4 (retrograde-row row2))

(define (ttone reps row key beat amp)
  (process with len = (length row)
           repeat reps
           for i from 0
           for p = (mod i len)
           for pc = (list-ref row p) ; i mod 12
           for k = (+ key pc)
           do
           (mp:midi :key k :time 0 :dur beat)
           (wait beat)))
;;execute
(sprout (ttone 13 row1 60 2 .2))

;;;;;;;;;This returns repeated note on execution
(define (ttone2 len row key beat amp)
  (process repeat len
           for i from 0
           for p = (mod i len)
           for pc = (list-ref row p)
           for n = (if (chance? .5)
                     (+ key 12)
                     (- key 12))
           for k = (+ n pc)
           do (mp:midi :time 0 :key key :dur 1 :amp amp)
           (wait beat)))
;;;;;;;;;just a repeated note.  doesn't run through row
(sprout (ttone2 12 row1 55 2 .2))

(define (ttone3 len row key beat amp)
  (process repeat len
           for i from 0
           for pc = (list-ref row (mod i 12))
           for w = (* beat (random 4))
           for n = (if (= w 0)
                     (if (chance? .5)
                       (+ key 12)
                       (- key 12))
                     key)
                     for k = (+ n pc)
          do
          (mp:midi :time 0 :dur beat :key key :amp amp)
          (wait w)))

(sprout (ttone3 12 row1 55 2 .2))

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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Wed Feb 24 06:29:04 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:29:04 -0500
Subject: [CM] sprouting multiple processes
Message-ID: <10FE1AE3-8534-4D79-A206-D39F499FE195@presby.edu>

Hi - I am sorry to bombard the list with questions every day.  It?s been helpful, though.  Thanks to those who have helped me already.

I?m trying to sprout multiple processes at the same time?.

I?m using this syntax - the ttone3 process has already been defined and running one instance of sprout works fine.  I?m trying this syntax

(sprout (ttone3 arg1 arg2?.)
	    (ttone3 arg1 arg 2?.))

It?s not working, though.  Just running 

(sprout (ttone3 arg1 arg2?.))
works fine.
Thanks for any help.
Rob

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Assisstant Professor of Music
rhowiler at presby.edu
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From taube at illinois.edu  Wed Feb 24 06:47:43 2016
From: taube at illinois.edu (Taube, Heinrich K)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:47:43 +0000
Subject: [CM] sprouting multiple processes
In-Reply-To: <10FE1AE3-8534-4D79-A206-D39F499FE195@presby.edu>
References: <10FE1AE3-8534-4D79-A206-D39F499FE195@presby.edu>
Message-ID: <D2688540-4E99-4C34-8ACA-50AF69419F0A@illinois.edu>

shoud be

(sprout (list  (ttone3 arg1 arg2?.)
            	    (ttone3 arg1 arg 2?.)
	             ?)

	?(optional lists of start times?)
)

	 
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Rob Howiler <rhowiler at presby.edu> wrote:
> 
> (sprout (ttone3 arg1 arg2?.)
> 	    (ttone3 arg1 arg 2?.))
> 




From artaslynn at gmail.com  Wed Feb 24 07:44:55 2016
From: artaslynn at gmail.com (Lynn Artas)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:44:55 -0700
Subject: [CM] Cmdist Digest, Vol 94, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1456084802.28837.cmdist@ccrma.stanford.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1456084802.28837.cmdist@ccrma.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <CAPYwR08DaOyARFTmW05zxeLB+zAgNHaC4DPnEmdjeEKpMJx=Cw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there, Ben?I'm an old schoolmate of yours from that time and place.  I
use a pseudonym on discussion lists so as not to embarrass myself or our
beloved teacher with my silly questions.  ; )

I'm in the same situation?starting up Grace/CM after well over a decade of
doing little to nothing with it. Bill Schottstaedt just gave me the names
of the following handy resources a few weeks ago on the list. Here are some
links:

"The Scheme Programming Language" by Dybvig

http://www.scheme.com/tspl2d/


Peter Seibel's Practical Common Lisp

http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/


I think you're right about "Scheme is a 'dialect' of Lisp...and S7 is an
extension of Scheme." but I'll let an expert confirm or correct.

Yes, there's an (nth x y) function in Scheme. I banged my head on this one
too?It's backwards from what we remember:

(nth listname index) instead of (nth index listname)


Cheers to middle aged dogs re-learning old tricks!




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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 10:48:13 -0800
> From: Ben McAllister <benmca at gmail.com>
> To: cm list <Cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> Subject: [CM] Community of Grace/CM users?
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I studied Computer Music with Richard Karpen in the 90s at University
> of Washington, where CM 1.4 and Csound were the tools of the day. I've
> been having a blast these past few weeks re-writing my CM 1.x pieces
> in Grace / CM3! Really great job on Grace - thanks so much for the
> documentation and examples in Grace. I found the tutorials and
> examples very easy to follow. I'd like to find a way to contribute
> more examples as I work through resuscitating my old work :)
>
> I build software for a living, but haven't used Lisp for anything
> except music. It would be helpful for me to have a better view of
> where Common Music sits alongside Lisp, Scheme, and S7. If I
> understand correctly, Scheme is a 'dialect' of Lisp with a rich
> community of users, and S7 is an extension of Scheme. Have I got that
> right?
>
> So, specifically to Grace, does this mean any Scheme code should run
> from a Grace editor window?
>
> As I refresh my memory on how to do relatively simple things in
> Scheme, I'm not sure if they're intended to be supported in Scheme. To
> take one random example, I assume I can consult the latest Scheme docs
> online to figure out whether or not there's an (nth x y) function in
> Scheme like there is in CL - there isn't, but it's straightforward to
> code up:
>
> (define (nth n l)
>   (if (or (> n (length l)) (< n 0))
>     (error "Index out of bounds.")
>     (if (eq? n 0)
>       (car l)
>       (nth (- n 1) (cdr l)))))
>
>
> Lastly, besides maybe Stack Overflow, it doesn't look like there is a
> place online where users can convene and share experiences and code
> except this mailing list. True?
>
> Thanks for reading and once again, great work!
>  --
> Ben McAllister | listenfaster.com |  @listenfaster
>
>
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From aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 24 09:43:59 2016
From: aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com (Aykut Caglayan)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:43:59 +0000
Subject: [CM] help with repeated notes not running through a list...
Message-ID: <E91E05D3-05D3-487F-8BCF-B8AAB44240F3@yahoo.com>

Hi Rob,

> ;;;;;;;;;This returns repeated note on execution
> (define (ttone2 len row key beat amp)
>  (process repeat len
>           for i from 0
>           for p = (mod i len)
>           for pc = (list-ref row p)
>           for n = (if (chance? .5)
>                     (+ key 12)
>                     (- key 12))
>           for k = (+ n pc)
>           do (mp:midi :time 0 :key key :dur 1 :amp amp)
>           (wait beat)))

the updated key value - k - within the loop doesn't seem to be passed to (mp:midi :key ..).
it had to be - do (mp:midi :key k :dur 1 :amp amp)

and you don't need to put :time value when you are using 'process', which deals with timing by itself

Ike


From rhowiler at presby.edu  Wed Feb 24 10:28:53 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:28:53 -0500
Subject: [CM] help with repeated notes not running through a list...
In-Reply-To: <E91E05D3-05D3-487F-8BCF-B8AAB44240F3@yahoo.com>
References: <E91E05D3-05D3-487F-8BCF-B8AAB44240F3@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CF8A96E7-827D-4107-9BB2-4B503CD88E13@presby.edu>

Yep.  I saw the error of my ways.  I set up ?k" to be keynum, but then used ?key" in the argument list.  Makes sense now.  Just didn?t realize what I was doing.  Still new to this?.

Thanks again
Rob
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Aykut Caglayan <aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
>> ;;;;;;;;;This returns repeated note on execution
>> (define (ttone2 len row key beat amp)
>> (process repeat len
>>          for i from 0
>>          for p = (mod i len)
>>          for pc = (list-ref row p)
>>          for n = (if (chance? .5)
>>                    (+ key 12)
>>                    (- key 12))
>>          for k = (+ n pc)
>>          do (mp:midi :time 0 :key key :dur 1 :amp amp)
>>          (wait beat)))
> 
> the updated key value - k - within the loop doesn't seem to be passed to (mp:midi :key ..).
> it had to be - do (mp:midi :key k :dur 1 :amp amp)
> 
> and you don't need to put :time value when you are using 'process', which deals with timing by itself
> 
> Ike


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From rhowiler at presby.edu  Wed Feb 24 10:59:05 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:59:05 -0500
Subject: [CM] MIDI channels....
Message-ID: <7160AB65-9FE8-4313-8F7F-1A323E75212A@presby.edu>

Hi - This may be a Logic Pro issue, so forgive me if it turns out to be non-CM related.

I?m using this code, but the separate MIDI channels don?t seem to be working.  When I try it in ?real-time?, it all comes out on one channel.  If I have all three MIDI tracks record-enabled in Logic, all three get all MIDI channels.  That is probably a Logic/software synth issue.  But when I write it to a MIDI file, it?s all on one channel, too.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Rob


(define functions??) - these are all fine...

(define (ttone3 len row key beat amp chan)
  (process repeat len
           for i from 0
           for pc = (list-ref row (mod i 12))
           for w = (* beat (random 4))
           for n = (if (= w 0)
                     (if (chance? .5)
                       (+ key 12)
                       (- key 12))
                     key)
                     for k = (+ n pc)
          do
          (mp:midi :dur beat :key k :amp amp :chan chan)
          (wait w)))
(sprout (list (ttone3 36 row1 55 .175 .2 0)
        (ttone3 2 row4 72 4 .2 1)
        (ttone3 10 row2 67 .25 .2 2))
        '(0  1 12), "rowDone.mid")
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From aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 24 12:13:51 2016
From: aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com (Aykut Caglayan)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:13:51 +0000
Subject: [CM] MIDI channels....
Message-ID: <EC0B3B1B-E10F-4FAB-BBF0-33C63EECFBC4@yahoo.com>

Did you try to activate "Auto demix by channel if multitrack recording" under Project Settings/Recording.?


From rhowiler at presby.edu  Wed Feb 24 14:05:41 2016
From: rhowiler at presby.edu (Rob Howiler)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:05:41 -0500
Subject: [CM] MIDI channels....
In-Reply-To: <EC0B3B1B-E10F-4FAB-BBF0-33C63EECFBC4@yahoo.com>
References: <EC0B3B1B-E10F-4FAB-BBF0-33C63EECFBC4@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4701481277748781333@unknownmsgid>

I didn't know that setting existed. That fixed everything.  Thank you
so very much! It's working like a charm now.

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> On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Aykut Caglayan <aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Did you try to activate "Auto demix by channel if multitrack recording" under Project Settings/Recording.?

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