> back to Motif! I wonder what would happen if I made a tinyMotif -- I've toyed with that idea several times. I have always liked Motif (sniffle, sigh). It's 1/100 the size of gtk, 1/10 the X traffic, at least 5 times as fast (as gtk3), has openGL access not that %#$!@ cairo, and it does what you want.