From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Feb 10 11:47:40 2011
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:47:40 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd cvs
Message-ID: <20110210194640.M1833@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I think the snd cvs support at sourceforge is back now (it was
off-line for about 2 weeks due to a password sniffer attack
at sourceforge).



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Feb 12 02:22:04 2011
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:22:04 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 11.13
Message-ID: <20110212102116.M64631@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Snd 11.13

s7: make-hash-table-iterator.

    map and for-each accept any applicable object as the first argument.

    format's ~{...~} directive can handle any applicable object.

    the thread stuff has been exported to s7.h.

    s7_set_begin_hook (see s7.html#s7inathread and s7.html#replrescue)
      The basic problem is that the GUI toolkits are not thread-safe, but we
      want the GUI to remain responsive even if s7 is caught in an infinite
      loop in the listener.  This also gives a way to break out of any long
      computation without relying on Unix signals and weird keystrokes.
      This is tied to C-g in the listener, so ws-interrupt (ws.scm) is
      now a deprecated no-op.

lots more forth and ruby stuff thanks to Mike Scholz.

checked: gtk 2.99.0|1|2|3, gtk 3.0.0, FC14 (gcc 4.5.1)

Thanks!: Rick Taube, Hartmut Noack, Mike Scholz.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Feb 17 06:08:17 2011
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:08:17 -0600
Subject: [CM] eval aborting
Message-ID: <A2B2F882-C080-4263-87E8-1AB68EA181E3@uiuc.edu>

i have a version of grace that uses S7's new 'interrupt scheme'  
feature that  stop infinite loops without using signals. to abort the  
current eval taking place use the Eval>Interrupt Scheme  menu item  
(ill add a Keyboard shortcut for this too). it seems to work, would  
appreciate testing.  note that if an infinite loop involves printing  
to the Console window the app may still crash due to the flood of  
asynchronous print messages hammering the underlying  text buffer.  
this is not a s7 issue (or even a Grace issue) -- im going to try to  
reimplement the Console window without a text buffer to solve this  
problem and to make printing faster.

http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/software/grace/Grace-3.7.1-beta2-osx.zip



From rennabh at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 12:42:33 2011
From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:42:33 +0100
Subject: [CM] no sound with snd
Message-ID: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>

Hello, just installed snd and started reading the manual. I opened
various .wav's I have, both 16 and 24 bit (all 44100hz) but when I
press play, the button checks and milliseconds after unchecks itself,
and no sound is produced. I tried both with alsa (i.e. jack not
started) and with the jack daemon running. I don't see any error
message on the command line and AFAICT there's no verbose option...

any hints?


cheers
renato



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Feb 27 13:47:15 2011
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:47:15 -0800
Subject: [CM] no sound with snd
In-Reply-To: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>
References: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110227214511.M58882@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Type (mus-audio-describe) in the listener to see what Snd
thinks the audio setup is -- this can be almost unreadable
if it's from ALSA, but it's a start.  In some versions of Linux,
you might have to manually stop pulseaudio.




From rennabh at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 14:15:09 2011
From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:15:09 +0100
Subject: [CM] no sound with snd
In-Reply-To: <20110227214511.M58882@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>
	<20110227214511.M58882@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20110227231509.1687683e@gmail.com>

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:47:15 -0800
"Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

> Type (mus-audio-describe) in the listener to see what Snd
> thinks the audio setup is -- this can be almost unreadable
> if it's from ALSA, but it's a start.  In some versions of Linux,
> you might have to manually stop pulseaudio.
> 
> 

after I type it I should get some output somewhere (I don't)? it's not
like a terminal is it?

anyway with the listener opener, when I have pulseaudio running I get
this message when I press play:
;open read /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
; [audio.c[576] linux_audio_open_with_error]

if I kill pulseaudio I don't get anymore this message but I still get
the same behaviour when pressing play

system info:
$ uname -a
Linux tosharch 2.6.37-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Feb 18 16:58:42 UTC 2011
i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

$ snd --version
snd: Symbol `FamErrlist' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
This is Snd version 11.6 of 7-June-10:
    s7: 1.58 (2-June-10), Xen: 3.4
    OSS 3.8.2
    Sndlib 21.2 (11-Dec-09, float samples)
    CLM 4.31 (7-Mar-10)
    Lesstif 0.95 
    Motif 2.1.0 X11R6 
    with fam
    Compiled Jul  4 2010 16:05:55
    C: 4.5.0 20100610 (prerelease)
    Libc: 2.13.stable
    host: i686-pc-linux-gnu



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Feb 27 14:24:07 2011
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:24:07 -0800
Subject: [CM] no sound with snd
In-Reply-To: <20110227231509.1687683e@gmail.com>
References: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>
	<20110227214511.M58882@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<20110227231509.1687683e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110227222012.M11353@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

you're running OSS -- in the configuration info:

  OSS 3.8.2 

Try building Snd --with-alsa, or maybe  --with-jack.
I don't know why the configure script would try to use OSS.  

Also, the listener almost certainly won't work in Lesstif -- 
try to get openmotif or use gtk.  You're using

    Lesstif 0.95 

which has no hope of working. 



From rennabh at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 15:28:59 2011
From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:28:59 +0100
Subject: [CM] no sound with snd
In-Reply-To: <20110227222012.M11353@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20110227214233.0bacfe44@gmail.com>
	<20110227214511.M58882@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<20110227231509.1687683e@gmail.com>
	<20110227222012.M11353@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20110228002859.0e229aef@gmail.com>

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:24:07 -0800
"Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

> you're running OSS -- in the configuration info:
> 
>   OSS 3.8.2 
> 
> Try building Snd --with-alsa, or maybe  --with-jack.
> I don't know why the configure script would try to use OSS.  
> 
> Also, the listener almost certainly won't work in Lesstif -- 
> try to get openmotif or use gtk.  You're using
> 
>     Lesstif 0.95 
> 
> which has no hope of working. 
> 

have no idea why but the archlinux binary was compiled with
--without-gsl and --without-fftw. I recompiled without these and with
--with-jack and --with-gtk and now "play" works (and the GUI is better!)

thanks
renato