[CM] Arno in Grace?

[Torsten Anders]

Dear Alan,

I fully understand that learning a new language is always challenging and that you would prefer to stay in Lisp. Therefore I mentioned PWMC, which is an extension of PWGL (http://www2.siba.fi/PWGL/), a composition system based on Common Lisp (LispWorks) that has been developed by Mikael Laurson (besides others), who developed Patch Work in the 1980th-90th, which in turn was the foundation of IRCAM's OpenMusic. With PWMC you define your compositional in textual Common Lisp, and then apply them graphically in PWGL.

Besides, PWGL comes with the constraint solver PWConstraints, for which also several libraries exist (e.g., google for Jacopo Schilingi). 

Likewise, OpenMusic comes with several constraint solvers, all of them defined in Common Lisp.

Most of these solvers are described in detail in my paper I sent before.  

Best wishes,
Torsten

--
Dr Torsten Anders
Course Leader, Music Technology
University of Bedfordshire
Park Square, Room A315
http://www.torsten-anders.de








On 28 Dec 2011, at 18:15, Dr. des. Alan Fabian wrote:

> Dear Ralf, dear Torsten,
> 
> thank you for your helpful Emails! So Arno is too old, I see. That's a pitty.
> 
> A few weeks ago I studied Strasheela and after installing Mozart and studying Oz a bit I decided to go back to Lisp - it's my favorite language, I am used to it. That's why I am so enthusiastic about Grace and all these helpful tools for converting data to music and why I had a lot of hope in Arno.
> I programmed already basics with CSP in Lisp, so now it looks like I have to go on that way. Your disseration about csp Torsten and your source-code as well will be very helpful on that way (the article you recomended I know already, but thank's).
> 
> Best wishes to you both,
> and again thank's for the imediate answers, 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 28.12.2011 16:29, schrieb Torsten Anders:
>> Dear Alan,
>> 
>> Thank you for your interest in my old CM extension Arno. As you already noticed, this software is now more than 10 years old -- I wrote it as part of my master thesis for CM 1.4. This program was the first constraint-based system for music composition I designed, and the lessons I learnt there informed my later projects in this area, in particular the design of Strasheela (
>> http://strasheela.sourceforge.net). More specifically, the order in which decisions are made during the search process in Arno is inefficient for most cases, except canons. Many Strasheela-related publications are available at my website (http://cmr.soc.plymouth.ac.uk/tanders/writing.htm
>> ).
>> 
>> If you are interested in using constraint programming for music, there exist a number of systems besides my Strasheela. I attached a recent survey paper of this field for your convenience. A very interesting system not yet included in this survey is PWMC by Orjan Sandred, there is a CMJ paper discussing it [1]. 
>> 
>> Nevertheless, if you really want to use Arno then its source is still available at 
>> http://cmr.soc.plymouth.ac.uk/tanders/software.htm
>> , together with a related ICMC article and my mentioned thesis (in German).
>> 
>> Please do not hesitate to contact me in case of further questions. 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Torsten
>> 
>> [1] Sandred, Örjan. 2010. “PWMC, a Constraint-Solving System for Generating Music Scores.” Computer Music Journal 34 (2) (June 1): 8-24. 
>> 
>> PS: In case you want to install Strasheela you may run into some compilation difficulties on a 64-bit machine (I just did not have any time to update this installation description, due to my new lectureship -- just let me know if you have any problems).
>> 
>> --
>> Dr Torsten Anders
>> Course Leader, Music Technology
>> University of Bedfordshire
>> Park Square, Room A315
>> 
>> http://www.torsten-anders.de
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Dec 2011, at 13:42, 
>> rm at tuxteam.de
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:04:31PM +0100, rm at tuxteam.de
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This program most likely requires/runs with CM2 - Grace is CommonMusic3,
>>>> IIRC. To get your copy of CommonMusic2 you need to check out the cm2
>>>> branch from the subversion repository. What OS are you using? On
>>>> Linux/OSX it's as simple as (in a terminal):
>>>> 
>>>> $ svn co 
>>>> https://commonmusic.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/commonmusic/branches/cm2
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (all in one line). That will fetch the code from the repository and put
>>>> it into a directoy/folder 'cm2'.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gosh, I just flipped through the Disertation on Alan - that mentions
>>> Stella - so even CM2 will be to "new". I think I have Stella on some
>>> archive disk but you'd need some old  vsion of Allegro Lisp or
>>> Macintosh Common Lisp  (the later is available as Open Source now, but
>>> you need some old Mac hardware or an emulator. Doable but tricky ... ,-)
>>> 
>>> HTH Ralf Mattes
>>> 
>>> 
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