From sgsofia at uw.edu Mon Mar 1 12:20:22 2010 From: sgsofia at uw.edu (Sal G Sofia) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:20:22 +0000 Subject: [CM] Test. Message-ID: <305CAD961DF07D41A70EFB20D1584D910D792D58@BL2PRD0103MB040.prod.exchangelabs.com> Testing my new email... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 13:28:59 2010 From: aykut_caglayan at yahoo.com (Aykut Caglayan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:28:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CM] 'stochastic.ins' Message-ID: <78161.31971.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi all, i am interested in playing with the instrument 'stochastic' by Bill Sack, but if i try to load it, i get error. Error opening shared object "/Users/iKut/Lisp/clm-4/clm_STOCHASTIC.so": dlopen(3) failed. [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR] It would be nice, if its source code will be translated into s7. thanks in advance aykut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bsack23 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 14:13:37 2010 From: bsack23 at gmail.com (Bill Sack) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:13:37 -0500 Subject: [CM] 'stochastic.ins' In-Reply-To: <78161.31971.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <78161.31971.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2eb2318a1003041413w23ba9eai58d3f8a7abfaa6d5@mail.gmail.com> i did make a scheme version of it a little while ago and it seems to work in s7. i will share it when i'm able to get to the file. thanks for your interest in it! bill On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Aykut Caglayan wrote: > Hi all, > > i am interested in playing with the instrument 'stochastic' by Bill Sack, > but if i try to load it, i get error. > Error opening shared object "/Users/iKut/Lisp/clm-4/clm_STOCHASTIC.so": > dlopen(3) failed. > [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR] > > It would be nice, if its source code will be translated into s7. > > thanks in advance > > aykut > > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From taube at uiuc.edu Thu Mar 4 14:54:15 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:54:15 -0600 Subject: [CM] 'stochastic.ins' In-Reply-To: <20100304221310.M4257@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> References: <78161.31971.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100304221310.M4257@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: that is, there is a stochastic.scm in the sndlib and snd distributions. bil also made a scheme version of cnvrev from clm-4 today, ill add these to the instrument browser ill add it to my distribution as well i On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: >> It would be nice, if its source code will be translated into s7. > > stochastic.scm. > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist From bsack23 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 08:09:40 2010 From: bsack23 at gmail.com (Bill Sack) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:09:40 -0500 Subject: [CM] 'stochastic.ins' In-Reply-To: References: <78161.31971.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20100304221310.M4257@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <2eb2318a1003050809r6cbb1485hbe377fce236a4f15@mail.gmail.com> ah .. well, that lets me off the hook. thanks all! b On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Heinrich Taube wrote: > that is, there is a stochastic.scm in the sndlib and snd distributions. > bil also made a scheme version of cnvrev from clm-4 today, ill add these to > the instrument browser > > > > ill add it to my distribution as well i > > On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: > > It would be nice, if its source code will be translated into s7. >>> >> >> stochastic.scm. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cmdist mailing list >> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu >> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taube at uiuc.edu Fri Mar 5 08:24:02 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:24:02 -0600 Subject: [CM] cm 3.5.1 released Message-ID: 3.5.1 is a bug fix release and update to the latest sndlib containing bill's recent run optimizations. i also added cnvrev and stocastic to the embedded instrument distro https://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/files/ From taube at uiuc.edu Fri Mar 5 08:31:46 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:31:46 -0600 Subject: [CM] cm trunk Message-ID: <7F4E3D8D-9987-41FC-B368-BDB6EBDCEE7B@uiuc.edu> svn trunk is now unstable and will be for the next several weeks. im making good progress on the new Code Editor and Sal 2.0 but its tons of work. i branched 3.5 so you can still use svn to update stable sources like this: svn co https://commonmusic.svn.sf.net/svnroot/commonmusic/branches/3.5 cm From dfsextras at cox.net Fri Mar 5 14:19:17 2010 From: dfsextras at cox.net (Denis Fitzpatrick) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:19:17 -0600 Subject: [CM] format error when reading SPEAR files Message-ID: <4B918365.1000203@cox.net> In using the latest Grace executable (3.5.1) and trying spectral.sal from http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/Classes/404A2/, I get format-error when executing: define variable log-frames = import-spear-frames("log-drum.txt") the file is in the working directory. I do get the same message when a use a file name for a non-existent file, however. Any ideas? Denis From michael.klingbeil at yale.edu Fri Mar 5 14:44:07 2010 From: michael.klingbeil at yale.edu (Michael Klingbeil) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:44:07 -0500 Subject: [CM] format error when reading SPEAR files In-Reply-To: <4B918365.1000203@cox.net> References: <4B918365.1000203@cox.net> Message-ID: <4B918937.2050501@yale.edu> You might just need to specify the full path of the file. Or you can use the chdir function. chdir "/Users/myname/project" For a non-existent file I get the error >>> Error: open-input-file: can't open log-drum.txt On 3/5/10 5:19 PM, Denis Fitzpatrick wrote: > In using the latest Grace executable (3.5.1) and trying spectral.sal > from http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/Classes/404A2/, I get format-error when > executing: > define variable log-frames = import-spear-frames("log-drum.txt") > the file is in the working directory. I do get the same message when a > use a file name for a non-existent file, however. > Any ideas? > > Denis > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist -- Michael Klingbeil Yale University Department of Music Stoeckel Hall, 469 College St, Rm 307 From dfsextras at cox.net Sat Mar 6 15:45:02 2010 From: dfsextras at cox.net (Denis Fitzpatrick) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:45:02 -0600 Subject: [CM] format error when reading SPEAR files In-Reply-To: <4B918937.2050501@yale.edu> References: <4B918365.1000203@cox.net> <4B918937.2050501@yale.edu> Message-ID: <4B92E8FE.2070707@cox.net> It's my bad, I think. I did the following: made a new grace window (apple-N) Saved it as test1.sal copied the following line into that window after copying from the web site: define variable log-frames = import-spear-frames("log-drum.txt") then executed and got the error "format-error" But, after closing that file , then reopening and executing, it worked fine. So saving a new file as a sal file didn't put grace into sal mode for that window, as I assumed. Grace 3.5.1 OS X 10.6.2 On 3/5/10 4:44 PM, Michael Klingbeil wrote: > You might just need to specify the full path of the file. Or you can use the chdir function. > > chdir "/Users/myname/project" > > For a non-existent file I get the error > >>>> Error: open-input-file: can't open log-drum.txt >>>> > On 3/5/10 5:19 PM, Denis Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> In using the latest Grace executable (3.5.1) and trying spectral.sal >> from http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/Classes/404A2/, I get format-error when >> executing: >> define variable log-frames = import-spear-frames("log-drum.txt") >> the file is in the working directory. I do get the same message when a >> use a file name for a non-existent file, however. >> Any ideas? >> >> Denis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cmdist mailing list >> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu >> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist >> > From frisk.h at gmail.com Wed Mar 17 06:08:53 2010 From: frisk.h at gmail.com (Henrik Frisk) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:08:53 +0100 Subject: [CM] Fwd: Can't load external scripts In-Reply-To: <20100205140428.M20381@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> References: <311224201002050356m40e5c4d5q13224651d5e82ee8@mail.gmail.com> <20100205121006.M26340@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <311224201002050443g65dd5bfcn1f38a9128880cd4d@mail.gmail.com> <311224201002050445rd479921qe044c2314a8d2177@mail.gmail.com> <20100205140428.M20381@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <311224201003170608x76873603j3f84004f309e5a9@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: > > I have inf-snd-working-directory and inf-snd-index-path set to > > writeable directories in my home folder. > > I think those variables control where emacs and others find scripts > and indexing (help) info. with-sound currently doesn't have a > notion of a working directory. I was thinking of adding *clm-search-list* > to the scheme version (it exists in the CL version), and maybe it could > be used for output as well? Right now, however, you need to give > the full output filename. > > I must have been doing something wrong last month when I reported this, becuase now, when I finally got time to return to this, I can't reproduce it. IOW everything is working fine! Thanks for an excellent program! best, /Henrik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Fri Mar 19 07:26:54 2010 From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:26:54 -0700 Subject: [CM] Snd 11.4 Message-ID: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Snd 11.4 most of my effort in this version went into optimizations. the (sndlib) run macro's argument no longer has to be a "thunk". removed weird r4rs macro syntax from s7. I think I'll have to either rename or remove the encapsulation stuff in s7. It turns out that very similar names are being used in the Kernel language and the rnrs discussions, and my use can only cause confusion. checked: gtk 2.19.6|7, sbcl 1.0.36, gsl 1.14 Thanks!: Mike Scholz, Geoff Lee, Georgia Rodgers, Michael Edwards, Andrew Antle, Rick Taube, Rick's students. From taube at uiuc.edu Fri Mar 19 09:13:29 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:13:29 -0500 Subject: [CM] Snd 11.4 In-Reply-To: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> References: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <6850D2D5-2761-40D3-8CED-429858B56E70@uiuc.edu> > Rick's students. and they are happily banging away on concrete piecelets using the latest fullmix with negative srate and srate envs. thanks! From taube at uiuc.edu Sun Mar 21 05:47:57 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:47:57 -0500 Subject: [CM] new CodeEditor and SAL 2.0 Message-ID: <4BE57069-3B35-4726-B58C-33F92E30DA93@uiuc.edu> i have an alpha version 3.6.0 with most of the new code editor and sal2 in place. testing/feedback would be greatly appreciated! http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/software/grace/grace-3.6.0-alpha1.zip (ill add windows and linux builds as i get them working ) new editor features : fast loading and highlighting even for very large files fast motion by expression (emacs c-m-f and c-m-b) improved syntactic indentation for scheme and sal2 per-buffer customizations (fontsize, columns, lines, theme) saved in buffer comment SAL2 is a simpler, minimalist version of Sal, basicially infix expressions and function calling with a few control statements (if begin loop set) to try it out use Help>Tutorials>Sal 2.0 Quick Tour that will open a new code editor window in Sal2 mode with examples of every construct. rewriting the code editor has been a huge undertaking and not everything is working yet, it seems farily stable now but expect problems editor themes still in progress only scheme and sal2 (no sal or fomus syntax yet) no sal2 loading no Find/Repalce no parens matching known editor issues: files with tabs wont indent well unless you actually delete the current white space before you indent the line evaluating region will still parse expressions a scheme expr in first position of buffer wonnt indent right. From J.Anderson at hull.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 01:49:15 2010 From: J.Anderson at hull.ac.uk (Joseph Anderson) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:49:15 -0000 Subject: [CM] sndlib and extension languages References: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: Hello All, Has anyone had any thoughts on using python as an extension language for sndlib? Reason I ask... I've been using SciPy (http://www.scipy.org/) as part of the Enought Python Distribution (http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php) to do signal processing. As SciPy is much more like Matlab in a Python environment, there are a number of features from Music V that I do miss. >From (https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/sndlib.html#sndlibxen) I see: > Much of sndlib is accessible at run time in any program that has one of the languages supported by the xen package (s7, Ruby, Forth) With a quick review of the web I see: http://www.xen.org/ Not quite sure if this is the xen referred to above... In any case... wondering if there were any plans or advice for accessing sndlib from python? Thanks in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Joseph Anderson Lecturer in Music School of Arts and New Media University of Hull, Scarborough Campus, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO11 3AZ, UK T: +44.(0)1723.357341 T: +44.(0)1723.357370 F: +44.(0)1723.350815 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Mon Mar 22 03:50:49 2010 From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:50:49 -0700 Subject: [CM] sndlib and extension languages In-Reply-To: References: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <20100322105011.M47537@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> I don't have any plans to add python as an extension language, but it's certainly a possibility. I started a port about 10 years ago, and still have the macros, but they are probably obsolete. The "xen" name collision is unfortunate, but as far as I know, I was using it first. When I was casting about for a name, I google'd "xen" (actually this might have preceded google -- I can't remember now how we searched the net in the good old days), and did not find anyone else using it. It's hard to find a name that is goggl-able and doesn't already have a bazillion takers -- even "CLM" which is apparently a well-known acronym for "Career Limiting Move" (example, punch the boss on the nose) -- I kind of like that collision. From rbastian at free.fr Mon Mar 22 04:20:57 2010 From: rbastian at free.fr (R. Bastian) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:20:57 +0100 Subject: [CM] sndlib and extension languages In-Reply-To: <20100322105011.M47537@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> References: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <20100322105011.M47537@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <20100322122057.44eef10a@KUBUNTU64> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:50:49 -0700 "Bill Schottstaedt" scribit: > I don't have any plans to add python as an extension > language, but it's certainly a possibility. I started > a port about 10 years ago, and still have the macros, > but they are probably obsolete. > > The "xen" name collision is unfortunate, but as far as > I know, I was using it first. When I was casting about > for a name, I google'd "xen" (actually this might have > preceded google -- I can't remember now how we searched > the net in the good old days), and did not find anyone > else using it. On http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=501&st=1 is a 'xen-i' from apricot on which i wrote midi-music in Pascal (ca 1986-87) > It's hard to find a name that is > goggl-able and doesn't already have a bazillion > takers -- even "CLM" which is apparently a well-known > acronym for "Career Limiting Move" (example, punch the > boss on the nose) -- I kind of like that collision. > > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist > -- Ren? Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org http://www.soundsurvey.org.uk/ From taube at uiuc.edu Mon Mar 22 05:07:00 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:00 -0500 Subject: [CM] new CodeEditor and SAL 2.0 References: <4BE57069-3B35-4726-B58C-33F92E30DA93@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: ive got the new editor and sal2 running in windows and linux now too, and fixed a few more bugs. since on win/lin emacs control key == windows command key, your Emacs Mode setting will toggle shortcuts on and off in the menus. osx: http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/software/grace/Grace-3.6.0-alpha2-osx.zip win32: http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/software/grace/Grace-3.6.0-alpha2-win32.zip linux: http://camil.music.uiuc.edu/software/grace/Grace-3.6.0-alpha2-linux.zip From johannes.quint at web.de Mon Mar 22 09:47:54 2010 From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:47:54 +0100 Subject: [CM] new CodeEditor and SAL 2.0 In-Reply-To: <4BE57069-3B35-4726-B58C-33F92E30DA93@uiuc.edu> References: <4BE57069-3B35-4726-B58C-33F92E30DA93@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <2D91CAA0-1059-4CD5-A9B6-04B26167E89C@web.de> Am 21.03.2010 um 13:47 schrieb Heinrich Taube: > i have an alpha version 3.6.0 with most of the new code editor and > sal2 in place. testing/feedback would be greatly appreciated! great - i like the minimalist-sal! c-m-f and c-m-b doesn't work for me. j From taube at uiuc.edu Mon Mar 22 13:48:32 2010 From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:48:32 -0500 Subject: [CM] new CodeEditor and SAL 2.0 In-Reply-To: <2D91CAA0-1059-4CD5-A9B6-04B26167E89C@web.de> References: <4BE57069-3B35-4726-B58C-33F92E30DA93@uiuc.edu> <2D91CAA0-1059-4CD5-A9B6-04B26167E89C@web.de> Message-ID: <8E742D66-DBCE-40A4-B2B4-8651F2037CCA@uiuc.edu> > great - i like the minimalist-sal! its basically infix scheme at this point but it does looks a bit like lua. the only thing left for me to do is add one more definitional called 'file' that will "expand" into (with-fomus ...) or (with- sound ...) or (with-midifile ...) based on the file type xxx. file "path/to/file.xxx" (...) ... end eg: file "test.ly" () fms:note( ...) ... end file "test.snd" (...) fm-violin(...) ... end file "test.mid" (..) mp:midi( ...) ... end > c-m-f and c-m-b doesn't work for me. are you sure that you have Emacs mode turned on in your Options> menu? It works fine for me (in fact im lost without it) on the mac them emacs meta keys is the Option key From J.Anderson at hull.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 13:01:10 2010 From: J.Anderson at hull.ac.uk (Joseph Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:01:10 -0000 Subject: [CM] sndlib and extension languages References: <20100319142437.M9581@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <20100322105011.M47537@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: Hello Bill, I suppose it is one of those "is it worth the effort" kinds of things. >From my POV sndlib + the power of SciPy would be fantastic. Python has quite a wide user base--which would mean wider exposure for sndlib. Ctypes (http://docs.python.org/library/ctypes.html) is apparently one way of going about the task. I wouldn't say I'm really up to the job, myself, more being a composer who hacks. At the moment, w/ SciPy, I'm running into some irritation with the Matlab-like assumptions, and really missing proper Music V family functionality. --------- Ok, so that's useful to know... they 'stole' the name xen... My best, Jo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Joseph Anderson Lecturer in Music School of Arts and New Media University of Hull, Scarborough Campus, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO11 3AZ, UK T: +44.(0)1723.357341 T: +44.(0)1723.357370 F: +44.(0)1723.350815 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Bill Schottstaedt [mailto:bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU] Sent: Mon 03/22/2010 10:50 AM To: Joseph Anderson; cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: [CM] sndlib and extension languages I don't have any plans to add python as an extension language, but it's certainly a possibility. I started a port about 10 years ago, and still have the macros, but they are probably obsolete. The "xen" name collision is unfortunate, but as far as I know, I was using it first. When I was casting about for a name, I google'd "xen" (actually this might have preceded google -- I can't remember now how we searched the net in the good old days), and did not find anyone else using it. It's hard to find a name that is goggl-able and doesn't already have a bazillion takers -- even "CLM" which is apparently a well-known acronym for "Career Limiting Move" (example, punch the boss on the nose) -- I kind of like that collision. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: