From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul  6 03:55:53 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:55:53 -0700
Subject: [CM] Snd 10.7
Message-ID: <20090706105439.M7917@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Snd 10.7

Mike made many improvements throughout Snd.

generators.scm: moving-fft, moving-scentroid, moving-autocorrelation, moving-pitch.

dlocsig.scm works now in s7, but not guile 1.9.0.

clm: added rectangular->magnitudes (ignores phases)

ALSA is now the default audio choice in Linux (this affects CLM/Sndlib also).
  This is a slight problem in Clisp because there's no way to tell that 
  we're in Linux, so in that case, push :alsa on *features* before loading
  all.lisp.  I've noticed playback can hang or simply fail if the pulseaudio
  server is running.  Linux audio is a never-ending pain.

New configure switch --with-oss.

Checked: gtk 2.17.1|2, sbcl 1.0.29, Fedora Core 11, guile 1.9.0

in the new guile, %delay and %filter are not defined, and there are many changes
  due to the guile compiler, so debug.scm has been removed, as well as the with-sound
  debugging stuff (ws.scm) that depended on it.  1.9.0 doesn't handle off_t cleanly,
  so you'll actually need 1.9.1.  Due to new restrictions in the syntax it accepts,
  this version of guile also can't handle generators.scm. And run doesn't work.

Thanks!: Mike Scholz, Jose Padovani, Kjetil Matheussen, Rick Taube.



From b0ef at esben-stien.name  Wed Jul  8 11:02:55 2009
From: b0ef at esben-stien.name (Esben Stien)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:02:55 +0200
Subject: [CM] Snd 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20090706105439.M7917@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> (Bill Schottstaedt's
	message of "Mon\, 6 Jul 2009 03\:55\:53 -0700")
References: <20090706105439.M7917@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <87ab3f59yo.fsf@quasar.esben-stien.name>

"Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> writes:

> Linux audio is a never-ending pain.

Not if you just trash ALSA/OSS and default to JACK.

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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jul 12 09:33:08 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:33:08 -0500
Subject: [CM] audio plots
Message-ID: <96B9B66A-1CE9-47AA-BC2E-AA60B6B10585@uiuc.edu>

svn trunk now has some big improvements to plotting:

you can now generate audio from ANY plot. just add points, open a midi  
out port, then choose Audio>Play Plot...  from the plot window's audio  
menu.  You can control how various point values are mapped to sound  
using the Play Plot dialog.

support for piano roll plotting ( :style :hbox)   has now been improved

the implementation of layers has been generalized, it will be possible  
soon to 'pivot' layers to show any pair of fields in mutidimensional  
points .

the Help>Examples>Plotting  example file now includes michael  
klingbeil's old arpa harmonics example working.

the XML representation for plots had changed a bit -- if you need to  
load an older .xlm file ill tell you what to do to get it to load (its  
easy to fix)




From dsteven at rider.edu  Sun Jul 12 08:04:46 2009
From: dsteven at rider.edu (Donald Steven)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:04:46 -0400
Subject: [CM] Grace, Linux & Sound
Message-ID: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>

Hi all,

Has anyone managed to get sound working from Grace on Linux?  I'm using 
3.2.3 and have tried a number of distros (Fedora 10, Ubuntu 9.04, SUSE 
11.1, Centros 5.3, and Debian Lenny) and combinations of ALSA and jack 
things, but it can't find the audio.  All other apps work fine.  Thanks 
for any help you can provide.

Don



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 13 06:38:31 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:38:31 -0500
Subject: [CM] Grace, Linux & Sound
In-Reply-To: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>
References: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>
Message-ID: <FC72497F-35DA-48D8-A347-BCABF8AB510F@uiuc.edu>

you can write realtime midi data , but you have to use 'qjackctl' or  
whatever to configure ports first.
you can write audio files using sndlib and clm instruments
you cannot play audio files except by some external app. This actually  
has nothing to do with Grace, which is making the the exact same calls  
on Linux as it is on OS X and windows, where things work.  from my  
perspective it seems like linux audio is overly complex and  juce  
linux (alsa) audio support has serious problems.


On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Donald Steven wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone managed to get sound working from Grace on Linux?  I'm  
> using
> 3.2.3 and have tried a number of distros (Fedora 10, Ubuntu 9.04, SUSE
> 11.1, Centros 5.3, and Debian Lenny) and combinations of ALSA and jack
> things, but it can't find the audio.  All other apps work fine.   
> Thanks
> for any help you can provide.
>
> Don
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 13 07:01:44 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:01:44 -0500
Subject: [CM] Grace, Linux & Sound
In-Reply-To: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>
References: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>
Message-ID: <610EDAC2-5902-4291-929E-E8E850D2A3B2@uiuc.edu>

it seems that in the past months juce users that develop audio have  
been developing  a "jack port", which i think would be better than  
using alsa, as is currently the case in juce.  i dont have the time or  
energy for this but if you have the ability and interest you could see  
if you get a jack port working relibly. if you could i would use it,   
the link is here, see page three and four:


http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/juceforum/viewtopic.php?t=1338&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45





From dsteven at rider.edu  Mon Jul 13 07:24:16 2009
From: dsteven at rider.edu (Donald Steven)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:24:16 -0400
Subject: [CM] Grace, Linux & Sound
In-Reply-To: <610EDAC2-5902-4291-929E-E8E850D2A3B2@uiuc.edu>
References: <4A59FB8E.7080502@rider.edu>
	<610EDAC2-5902-4291-929E-E8E850D2A3B2@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <4A5B4390.8080206@rider.edu>

Thanks, I'll look into this.

Heinrich Taube wrote:
> it seems that in the past months juce users that develop audio have 
> been developing  a "jack port", which i think would be better than 
> using alsa, as is currently the case in juce.  i dont have the time or 
> energy for this but if you have the ability and interest you could see 
> if you get a jack port working relibly. if you could i would use it,  
> the link is here, see page three and four:
>
>
> http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/juceforum/viewtopic.php?t=1338&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45 
>
>
>
>



From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 14 03:09:10 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:09:10 +0200
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
Message-ID: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Hello,

many many questions arrived when I wanted to install CL with CLM-4 and Lisp (I 
took SBCL) and use windows. You might say: "WINDOWS? Oh oh oh, I don't know 
whether SBCL runs with Windows". But this is not most important now.

Questions:

1. How can I install CM on Windows computer. I like to use clm-4, because there a 
piano model is implemented.
I installed SBCL, inside its directory I untared the cm directory and clm-4.
I have Visual Studio 2008 installed. Do I need sndlib instead of the clm-4 folder?

2. I installed the sndlib folder into the sbcl folder next to the cm folder, went 
in, opened the vc++ project file and started it. The following errors occured (ok, 
it's somewhere in German, but you will understand the main things I hope):


1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration: Release Win32 ------
1>Kompilieren...
1>cl : Befehlszeile warning D9035 : Die Option "Wp64" ist veraltet und wird in 
einer der n?chsten Versionen entfernt.
1>audio.c
1>.\audio.c(63) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>xen.c
1>.\xen.c(10) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"stdint.h": No such file or directory
1>vct.c
1>.\vct.c(51) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>sound.c
1>.\sound.c(4) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>sndlib2xen.c
1>.\sndlib2xen.c(6) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet 
werden: "snd.h": No such file or directory
1>s7.c
1>.\s7.c(258) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"complex.h": No such file or directory
1>run.c
1>.\run.c(144) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>midi.c
1>c:\programme\steel bank common lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\_sndlib.h(19) : fatal error 
C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: "stdbool.h": No such file or 
directory
1>io.c
1>.\io.c(4) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>headers.c
1>.\headers.c(43) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>clm2xen.c
1>.\clm2xen.c(11) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>clm.c
1>.\clm.c(6) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: 
"snd.h": No such file or directory
1>Code wird generiert...
1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common 
Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
1>sndlib - 12 Fehler, 1 Warnung(en)
========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0 ?bersprungen

What can I do to successfully compile it?

Best regards and thank you very much

Markus




From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 04:32:08 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:32:08 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <918F5DDF-1CC7-43D3-909B-A22C7415F03A@uiuc.edu>

> I installed SBCL, inside its directory I untared the cm directory  
> and clm-4.
> I have Visual Studio 2008 installed. Do I need sndlib instead of the  
> clm-4 folder?

If you want to use SBCL and CLM-4 (Common LIsp)  on Windows, then you  
dont need sndlib. But I dont know if CLM-4 will compile instruments on  
Windows, you better check that first. To use CM with SBCL on windows,  
use the GraceCL application. in this case you dont need sndlib either.

> 2. I installed the sndlib folder into the sbcl folder next to the cm  
> folder, went
> in, opened the vc++ project file and started it. The following  
> errors occured (ok,

If you want to use sndlib (sndlib has piano.ins working too i think)  
then you DONT need CLM-4 or  SBCL. But you will have to compile it  
from its sources until I can make a binary release,  I cant tell  
offhand what the problem you are having is due to.

Im sorry this is so confusing, i realized that there are lots of  
choices and compiling is not a trivial process (I did post directions  
on how to compile it to the cmdist list last month.)
  I will make a binary release as soon as the new C++ based Fomus is  
working reliably in Grace, hopefull this happens within two weeks.




From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 04:47:46 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:47:46 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>

Ok I guess  sndlib's code base or filenames have changed since I last  
built sndlib on windows so the vcproject i made doesnt work any more.
>
>
> 2. I installed the sndlib folder into the sbcl folder next to the cm  
> folder, went
> in, opened the vc++ project file and started it. The following  
> errors occured (ok,
> it's somewhere in German, but you will understand the main things I  
> hope):
>
>
> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:  
> Release Win32 ------
> 1>Kompilieren...
> 1>cl : Befehlszeile warning D9035 : Die Option "Wp64" ist veraltet  
> und wird in
> einer der n?chsten Versionen entfernt.
> 1>audio.c
> 1>.\audio.c(63) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>xen.c
> 1>.\xen.c(10) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "stdint.h": No such file or directory
> 1>vct.c
> 1>.\vct.c(51) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>sound.c
> 1>.\sound.c(4) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>sndlib2xen.c
> 1>.\sndlib2xen.c(6) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet
> werden: "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>s7.c
> 1>.\s7.c(258) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "complex.h": No such file or directory
> 1>run.c
> 1>.\run.c(144) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>midi.c
> 1>c:\programme\steel bank common lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\_sndlib.h(19) :  
> fatal error
> C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet werden: "stdbool.h": No  
> such file or
> directory
> 1>io.c
> 1>.\io.c(4) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht ge?ffnet  
> werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>headers.c
> 1>.\headers.c(43) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>clm2xen.c
> 1>.\clm2xen.c(11) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>clm.c
> 1>.\clm.c(6) : fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht  
> ge?ffnet werden:
> "snd.h": No such file or directory
> 1>Code wird generiert...
> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank  
> Common
> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
> 1>sndlib - 12 Fehler, 1 Warnung(en)
> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0  
> ?bersprungen
>
> What can I do to successfully compile it?
>
> Best regards and thank you very much
>
> Markus
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 14 04:49:10 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:49:10 -0700
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <20090714114353.M75977@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> I like to use clm-4, because there a piano model is implemented. 

It's also in the Scheme (and Ruby) versions: piano.scm for example,
so you could use CM + sndlib.  (Be sure to turn on optimization --
perhaps I should change that default).  Rick's instructions for
sndlib + windows are in README.sndlib.  I have never used Windows
(my sisters suspect that I don't actually know anything about computers), 
so I can't help much there.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 14 04:52:51 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:52:51 -0700
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> I guess  sndlib's code base or filenames have changed

no, nothing has changed.  It appears to be looking for stuff
like .\vct.c -- does that mean vct.c in the current directory?




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 14 04:54:11 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:54:11 -0700
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>
	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

or rather "RootNamespace" is "sndlib" so it's looking in the
snflib directory?




From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 04:59:35 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:59:35 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>
	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>

i dont know, maybe compile switches changed in mus-config.h  so things  
are now set up for linix and snd  by default?


On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> or rather "RootNamespace" is "sndlib" so it's looking in the
> snflib directory?
>
>
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 14 05:04:20 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:04:20 +0200
Subject: [CM]  Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
Message-ID: <4A5C7444.80601@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Hello Mr. Schottstaedt,

you know, windows is not a problem. I have ubuntu here and windows. So I could
also install it in linux. But I don't know how... :-) I am not lazy to read the
information in the lists and internet sites. I see sndlib, scheme, lisp, cm,
clm-4, etc.... so many words, but nowhere is written how they are connected and
what is really necessary to install it (what? cm, lisp, sndlib, scheme?) on
windows, on linux, on os x.

There was a piano model from Mr. Scott van Duyne's, "piano.ins" is the instrument
file. I like to use this, because many physical parameters go in.

Best regards
Markus

Bill Schottstaedt schrieb:
>> I like to use clm-4, because there a piano model is implemented. 
> 
> It's also in the Scheme (and Ruby) versions: piano.scm for example,
> so you could use CM + sndlib.  (Be sure to turn on optimization --
> perhaps I should change that default).  Rick's instructions for
> sndlib + windows are in README.sndlib.  I have never used Windows
> (my sisters suspect that I don't actually know anything about computers), 
> so I can't help much there.
> 



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 05:06:20 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:06:20 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>
	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>

ok the last version i used had this in mus-config:

#define USE_SND 0

#ifdef _MSC_VER
   typedef long off_t;
   #define ssize_t int
   #define snprintf _snprintf
   #define strtoll strtol
   #if _MSC_VER > 1200
     #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE 1
     #define _CRT_NONSTDC_NO_DEPRECATE 1
     #define _CRT_SECURE_CPP_OVERLOAD_STANDARD_NAMES 1
   #endif
#endif

#endif


the NEW version doesn have the MSC_VER suff and it ends with this:


#ifndef USE_SND
   #define USE_SND 1
#endif
#endif



so i guess by default things are set up for linux unless you use ./ 
configure, but its not possible to use ./configure on windows. there  
is no reason that sndlib cant work on windows if things are configured  
for it.






On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Heinrich Taube wrote:

> i dont know, maybe compile switches changed in mus-config.h  so things
> are now set up for linix and snd  by default?
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>
>> or rather "RootNamespace" is "sndlib" so it's looking in the
>> snflib directory?
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 14 05:25:27 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:25:27 +0200
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
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So, what does it mean? The end is

#ifndef USE_SND
    #define USE_SND 1
#endif
#endif

This is also my version where the errors appear.
Shell I change only the end into:

#define USE_SND 0

  #ifdef _MSC_VER
     typedef long off_t;
     #define ssize_t int
     #define snprintf _snprintf
     #define strtoll strtol
     #if _MSC_VER > 1200
       #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE 1
       #define _CRT_NONSTDC_NO_DEPRECATE 1
       #define _CRT_SECURE_CPP_OVERLOAD_STANDARD_NAMES 1
     #endif
#endif

#endif

Or shell one add this code above the end-code?



Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> ok the last version i used had this in mus-config:
> 
> #define USE_SND 0
> 
> #ifdef _MSC_VER
>    typedef long off_t;
>    #define ssize_t int
>    #define snprintf _snprintf
>    #define strtoll strtol
>    #if _MSC_VER > 1200
>      #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>      #define _CRT_NONSTDC_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>      #define _CRT_SECURE_CPP_OVERLOAD_STANDARD_NAMES 1
>    #endif
> #endif
> 
> #endif
> 
> 
> the NEW version doesn have the MSC_VER suff and it ends with this:
> 
> 
> #ifndef USE_SND
>    #define USE_SND 1
> #endif
> #endif
> 
> 
> 
> so i guess by default things are set up for linux unless you use ./ 
> configure, but its not possible to use ./configure on windows. there  
> is no reason that sndlib cant work on windows if things are configured  
> for it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Heinrich Taube wrote:
> 
>> i dont know, maybe compile switches changed in mus-config.h  so things
>> are now set up for linix and snd  by default?
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>>
>>> or rather "RootNamespace" is "sndlib" so it's looking in the
>>> snflib directory?
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 05:44:09 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:44:09 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
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	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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not sure, ill do a diff and see whats up. or i could post the slightly  
older version of sndlib that works so you can move on to the next issue!

On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> So, what does it mean? The end is
>
> #ifndef USE_SND
>    #define USE_SND 1
> #endif
> #endif
>
> This is also my version where the errors appear.
> Shell I change only the end into:
>
> #define USE_SND 0
>
>  #ifdef _MSC_VER
>     typedef long off_t;
>     #define ssize_t int
>     #define snprintf _snprintf
>     #define strtoll strtol
>     #if _MSC_VER > 1200
>       #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>       #define _CRT_NONSTDC_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>       #define _CRT_SECURE_CPP_OVERLOAD_STANDARD_NAMES 1
>     #endif
> #endif
>
> #endif
>
> Or shell one add this code above the end-code?
>
>
>
> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>> ok the last version i used had this in mus-config:
>>
>> #define USE_SND 0
>>
>> #ifdef _MSC_VER
>>   typedef long off_t;
>>   #define ssize_t int
>>   #define snprintf _snprintf
>>   #define strtoll strtol
>>   #if _MSC_VER > 1200
>>     #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>>     #define _CRT_NONSTDC_NO_DEPRECATE 1
>>     #define _CRT_SECURE_CPP_OVERLOAD_STANDARD_NAMES 1
>>   #endif
>> #endif
>>
>> #endif
>>
>>
>> the NEW version doesn have the MSC_VER suff and it ends with this:
>>
>>
>> #ifndef USE_SND
>>   #define USE_SND 1
>> #endif
>> #endif
>>
>>
>>
>> so i guess by default things are set up for linux unless you use ./
>> configure, but its not possible to use ./configure on windows. there
>> is no reason that sndlib cant work on windows if things are  
>> configured
>> for it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Heinrich Taube wrote:
>>
>>> i dont know, maybe compile switches changed in mus-config.h  so  
>>> things
>>> are now set up for linix and snd  by default?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>>>
>>>> or rather "RootNamespace" is "sndlib" so it's looking in the
>>>> snflib directory?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Cmdist mailing list
>>>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Cmdist mailing list
>>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
>
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 14 06:40:14 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:40:14 -0700
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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Oh, I didn't notice it was looking for snd.h!

> c:\software\sndlib\audio.c(63) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open   include file: 'snd.h': No such file or 
directory

I think this problem is that in linux and osx mus-config.h is created by the
configure script, and I have an update script that checks *.h.  It finds
whatever mus-config.h I last created (while testing), and clobbers the windows
version that we left there as a default for Visual C.  I re-made the
sndlib tarball at ccrma-ftp, and changed my script.  Perhaps the
Windows project can copy windows-mus-config.h to mus-config.h
or something.  In any case, the current version should get you past
that error.  

On the other question, everything is in flux, as Rick said.  If I were
trying to build CM+sndlib on windows, I'd follow whatever Rick's
instructions say (and not try sbcl or whatever).  As far as I know,
only the ACL version of clm-4 works in Windows, so you want to
use Scheme.  



From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 14 06:52:39 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:52:39 +0200
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Thank you very much for re-made the sndlib tarball!

So, if I use windows you suggest CM+sndlib, but you are not sure because it could 
be possible that no Lisp version works with clm-4. O.k.

Other possibility: Windows with Scheme + CM + soundlib?
Is there any link where I could read how to install (and where to get) scheme with 
soundlib for window or linux?



Bill Schottstaedt schrieb:
> Oh, I didn't notice it was looking for snd.h!
> 
>> c:\software\sndlib\audio.c(63) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open   include file: 'snd.h': No such file or 
> directory
> 
> I think this problem is that in linux and osx mus-config.h is created by the
> configure script, and I have an update script that checks *.h.  It finds
> whatever mus-config.h I last created (while testing), and clobbers the windows
> version that we left there as a default for Visual C.  I re-made the
> sndlib tarball at ccrma-ftp, and changed my script.  Perhaps the
> Windows project can copy windows-mus-config.h to mus-config.h
> or something.  In any case, the current version should get you past
> that error.  
> 
> On the other question, everything is in flux, as Rick said.  If I were
> trying to build CM+sndlib on windows, I'd follow whatever Rick's
> instructions say (and not try sbcl or whatever).  As far as I know,
> only the ACL version of clm-4 works in Windows, so you want to
> use Scheme.  
> 


-- 
Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff

Chair of Computational Statistics
Faculty of Statistics
Technical University of Dortmund
44221 Dortmund
Room 826

Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 07:05:17 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:05:17 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
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On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> Other possibility: Windows with Scheme + CM + soundlib?
> Is there any link where I could read how to install (and where to  
> get) scheme with
> soundlib for window or linux?


i posted a description of how to do this last month on cmdist. its  
actually not hard if things work you need: visual studio 2008,   
premake 3.7, sndlib.tar.gz and the svn tip of cm


i will see if its possible to get visual studio to copy sndlib's  
windows versioned files as part of its build process, othewise ill add  
this as a step to do 'by hand' to the windows instruction





From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 07:16:10 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:16:10 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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> So, if I use windows you suggest CM+sndlib, but you are not sure  
> because it could
> be possible that no Lisp version works with clm-4. O.k.


EITHER:

     clm-4, sbcl, cm-2, graceCL/emacs

OR:

     sndlib, cm



that is, these are mutualy exclusive enviornments: sndlib is a Scheme/ 
C REPLACEMENT for clm-4, cm is a Scheme/C++ REPLACEMENT for cm2/emacs.  
( avoid the term 'lisp' in this mailllst -- its too general a term and  
unhelpful in discission, indicate if you are interseted in either  
'common lisp' or 'scheme' )





From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 08:00:13 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:00:13 -0500
Subject: [CM] Problems with installing CM, CLM-4, LISP, SNDLIB
In-Reply-To: <6610ED7B-A70A-4995-8685-E8AF167136D4@uiuc.edu>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<6610ED7B-A70A-4995-8685-E8AF167136D4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <72D069EC-2317-45FA-A2B1-0EA4C3EA9041@uiuc.edu>

with the latest sndlib.tar.gz and cm svn tip i am able to build cm 
+sndlib, start Grace and open a plot. yea!



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 14 08:17:20 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:17:20 -0500
Subject: [CM] gnu tools for windows
In-Reply-To: <6610ED7B-A70A-4995-8685-E8AF167136D4@uiuc.edu>
References: <4A5C5946.3050200@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<073BCCC3-6351-4346-84CD-FA53F9511AD0@uiuc.edu>	<20090714115202.M45665@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<20090714115343.M88369@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<3B8CE74D-E599-4E4E-9D37-B05A8BB2D860@uiuc.edu>
	<E2ED24FA-A0D4-4651-BAD8-341DCFAD9C92@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5C7937.6090201@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<20090714133333.M95740@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<4A5C8DA7.1020002@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<6610ED7B-A70A-4995-8685-E8AF167136D4@uiuc.edu>
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btw i ran into a really nice site for gnu tools on windows today while  
trying to get diff working for sndlib headers:

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages.html


its got lots of great stuff: bsdtar, coreutils, wget, fileutils, et.  
makes the piece-of-shit window's console useable.  installs stuff in / 
program files/GnuWin32/bin  just put that on your path and away you go




From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul 15 05:10:45 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:10:45 -0500
Subject: [CM] iconography
Message-ID: <56EE2D66-6186-4525-8004-444D3F8F8983@uiuc.edu>

Grace an GraceCL now have tobias kunze's pretty application icon  
(lambda on music staff) on MacOS and WIndows. Thanks to Andrew  
Burnsons for showing me how to do this!
I can probably get an icon associated on linux too if someone can tell  
me the schell commands that would associate an icon with an executable.

to get the icons you need to reissue premake and rebuild the app

cd cm
svn update
premake --clean
rm -r bin obj
premake --verbose --target gnu --sndlib ../sndlib
make
(WIN:  premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib )






From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Wed Jul 15 08:18:16 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:18:16 +0200
Subject: [CM] [Stk] STK INSTRUMENTS IN MACAW
In-Reply-To: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Hello,

I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and then opened 
visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before (thank you very much 
  for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my Build.Log.htm in 
German, but I translated it every time.

Buildprotokoll (building journal):
  	 	
Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration: "Release|Win32"
(Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release|Win32")

Befehlszeilen (command lines):
  	 	
Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common 
Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird erstellt. Inhalt:
[
@echo off

copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-mus-config.h 
c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h

copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-sndlib.h 
c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h


if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError

goto VCEnd

:VCReportError

echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender Quelle 
zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."

exit 1

:VCEnd
]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common 
Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""

Ausgabefenster (display window):
  	 	
Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender Quelle 
zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."

Ergebnisse (results):
  	 	
Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common 
Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)

------------------------------------------------------------------

And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:

1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration: Release Win32 ------
1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender Quelle 
zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common 
Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0 ?bersprungen 
==========

A tool has returned an error code from the following source: "Prebuilding is 
executed..."

What does it mean? What did I do wrong?

Thank you again!



Robin Holmes schrieb:
> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core generator for 
> some synths in the Macaw music program.
> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/  
> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be found by 
> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
> Robin.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
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-- 
Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff

Chair of Computational Statistics
Faculty of Statistics
Technical University of Dortmund
44221 Dortmund
Room 826

Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul 15 08:44:35 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:44:35 -0500
Subject: [CM] [Stk] STK INSTRUMENTS IN MACAW
In-Reply-To: <4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>

i have no idea why you are working under a directory call "steel bank  
common lisp". sndlib has nothing to do with common lisp or sbcl. since  
windows uses its shell to copy the windows-sndlib.h  files i think  
maybe the spaces in "steel bank common lisp" possible cause things to  
break please follow these directions in README.sndlib EXACTLY. if this  
doesnt work im sorry i cant help any more than this, you'll have to  
wait for a binary release in a week or two,

BUILDING SNDLIB AND CM FROM SOURCES ON WINDOWS

These instructions assume you already have Microsoft Visual Studio
Express C++ 2008 installed on your computer. Its easiest if you create
a common folder to hold the source trees for CM and SndLib.  I created
a C:\Software directory to hold both systems on my machine:

         C:\Software\sndlib
         C:\Software\cm

BUILDING SNDLIB ON WINDOWS

1. Download and install the latest version of SndLib:

         ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/sndlib.tar.gz

2. Double-click 'sndlib.vcproj' to open the project in Visual Studio
and choose 'Build Solution' from the Build menu (or press F7). This
should compile the release version of the sndlib library.

BUILDING CM ON WINDOW

1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
on your PATH variable:

         http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip

2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
click OK.

3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:

     cd \Software\cm
     premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib

4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
in the pulldown menu and press F7.



On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and  
> then opened
> visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before (thank  
> you very much
>  for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my  
> Build.Log.htm in
> German, but I translated it every time.
>
> Buildprotokoll (building journal):
>  	 	
> Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration:  
> "Release|Win32"
> (Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release| 
> Win32")
>
> Befehlszeilen (command lines):
>  	 	
> Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird  
> erstellt. Inhalt:
> [
> @echo off
>
> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-mus- 
> config.h
> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h
>
> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows- 
> sndlib.h
> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h
>
>
> if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError
>
> goto VCEnd
>
> :VCReportError
>
> echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus  
> folgender Quelle
> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>
> exit 1
>
> :VCEnd
> ]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""
>
> Ausgabefenster (display window):
>  	 	
> Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
> Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender  
> Quelle
> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>
> Ergebnisse (results):
>  	 	
> Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
> sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:
>
> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:  
> Release Win32 ------
> 1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
> 1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus  
> folgender Quelle
> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank  
> Common
> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
> 1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0  
> ?bersprungen
> ==========
>
> A tool has returned an error code from the following source:  
> "Prebuilding is
> executed..."
>
> What does it mean? What did I do wrong?
>
> Thank you again!
>
>
>
> Robin Holmes schrieb:
>> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core generator for
>> some synths in the Macaw music program.
>> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
>> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/
>> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be  
>> found by
>> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
>> Robin.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Stk mailing list
>> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stk
>
>
> -- 
> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>
> Chair of Computational Statistics
> Faculty of Statistics
> Technical University of Dortmund
> 44221 Dortmund
> Room 826
>
> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist




From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Wed Jul 15 11:30:42 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:30:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] sndlib
In-Reply-To: <ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <3f135fcd270ee2af91eba8a4713d298a.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

yes maybe. I let it in the sbcl directory, just for testing. I mean it
must only be in a directory, whether its name is "Software" or "Steel Bank
Common Lisp" does not matter.

The spaces may be difficult... ok I will copy it together with "cm" into
another directory that is called "Software". If it doesn't work I will be
patient and wait. :-)

Thank you anyway for your kind help and for your patience!



> i have no idea why you are working under a directory call "steel bank
> common lisp". sndlib has nothing to do with common lisp or sbcl. since
> windows uses its shell to copy the windows-sndlib.h  files i think
> maybe the spaces in "steel bank common lisp" possible cause things to
> break please follow these directions in README.sndlib EXACTLY. if this
> doesnt work im sorry i cant help any more than this, you'll have to
> wait for a binary release in a week or two,
>
> BUILDING SNDLIB AND CM FROM SOURCES ON WINDOWS
>
> These instructions assume you already have Microsoft Visual Studio
> Express C++ 2008 installed on your computer. Its easiest if you create
> a common folder to hold the source trees for CM and SndLib.  I created
> a C:\Software directory to hold both systems on my machine:
>
>          C:\Software\sndlib
>          C:\Software\cm
>
> BUILDING SNDLIB ON WINDOWS
>
> 1. Download and install the latest version of SndLib:
>
>          ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/sndlib.tar.gz
>
> 2. Double-click 'sndlib.vcproj' to open the project in Visual Studio
> and choose 'Build Solution' from the Build menu (or press F7). This
> should compile the release version of the sndlib library.
>
> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>
> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
> on your PATH variable:
>
>          http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>
> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
> click OK.
>
> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>
>      cd \Software\cm
>      premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>
> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and
>> then opened
>> visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before (thank
>> you very much
>>  for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my
>> Build.Log.htm in
>> German, but I translated it every time.
>>
>> Buildprotokoll (building journal):
>>
>> Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration:
>> "Release|Win32"
>> (Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release|
>> Win32")
>>
>> Befehlszeilen (command lines):
>>
>> Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird
>> erstellt. Inhalt:
>> [
>> @echo off
>>
>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-mus-
>> config.h
>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h
>>
>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-
>> sndlib.h
>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h
>>
>>
>> if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError
>>
>> goto VCEnd
>>
>> :VCReportError
>>
>> echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>> folgender Quelle
>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>
>> exit 1
>>
>> :VCEnd
>> ]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""
>>
>> Ausgabefenster (display window):
>>
>> Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>> Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
>> Quelle
>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>
>> Ergebnisse (results):
>>
>> Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>> sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:
>>
>> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:
>> Release Win32 ------
>> 1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>> 1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>> folgender Quelle
>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank
>> Common
>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>> 1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0
>> ?bersprungen
>> ==========
>>
>> A tool has returned an error code from the following source:
>> "Prebuilding is
>> executed..."
>>
>> What does it mean? What did I do wrong?
>>
>> Thank you again!
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin Holmes schrieb:
>>> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core generator for
>>> some synths in the Macaw music program.
>>> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
>>> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/
>>> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be
>>> found by
>>> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
>>> Robin.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Stk mailing list
>>> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stk
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>>
>> Chair of Computational Statistics
>> Faculty of Statistics
>> Technical University of Dortmund
>> 44221 Dortmund
>> Room 826
>>
>> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
>> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
>> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
>> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
>




From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Thu Jul 16 00:55:13 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:55:13 +0200
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Number 1. and 2. are o.k. now. Number 3. makes problems: I have put the directory 
"juce" into C:\Software, then I went to "build" inside of "juce" and compiled it 
with VC++. All without errors.
Then I went to cmd and typed "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib", but an 
error occured:

**premake.lua: premake.lua:112: CM requires juce, add --juce to your premake options
**Script failed to run, ending.

Then I typed: "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib --juce ../juce"
and this error message appeared:

WARNING: no juce debug lib found for CONFIG=Debug
** premake.lua: premake.lua:205: attempt to call a table value
**Script failed to run, ending

What do I have to change? I compiled Juce as "release" and as "debug", but... 
always the same error. Perhaps the command "premake.... " etc. is wrong in that 
way I have written it?



BUILDING CM ON WINDOW

1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
on your PATH variable:

         http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip

2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
click OK.

3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:

     cd \Software\cm
     premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib

4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
in the pulldown menu and press F7.



Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> ok great. if Grace doesnt have an icon showing you can do an snv update 
> and then follow what i sent this morning.
> 
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de wrote:
> 
>> Yessssss great, it worked! 0 errors, 474 warnings. Thank you!
>>
>>
>>> i have no idea why you are working under a directory call "steel bank
>>> common lisp". sndlib has nothing to do with common lisp or sbcl. since
>>> windows uses its shell to copy the windows-sndlib.h  files i think
>>> maybe the spaces in "steel bank common lisp" possible cause things to
>>> break please follow these directions in README.sndlib EXACTLY. if this
>>> doesnt work im sorry i cant help any more than this, you'll have to
>>> wait for a binary release in a week or two,
>>>
>>> BUILDING SNDLIB AND CM FROM SOURCES ON WINDOWS
>>>
>>> These instructions assume you already have Microsoft Visual Studio
>>> Express C++ 2008 installed on your computer. Its easiest if you create
>>> a common folder to hold the source trees for CM and SndLib.  I created
>>> a C:\Software directory to hold both systems on my machine:
>>>
>>>         C:\Software\sndlib
>>>         C:\Software\cm
>>>
>>> BUILDING SNDLIB ON WINDOWS
>>>
>>> 1. Download and install the latest version of SndLib:
>>>
>>>         ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/sndlib.tar.gz
>>>
>>> 2. Double-click 'sndlib.vcproj' to open the project in Visual Studio
>>> and choose 'Build Solution' from the Build menu (or press F7). This
>>> should compile the release version of the sndlib library.
>>>
>>> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>>>
>>> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
>>> on your PATH variable:
>>>
>>>         http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>>>
>>> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
>>> click OK.
>>>
>>> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
>>> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>>>
>>>     cd \Software\cm
>>>     premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>>>
>>> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
>>> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and
>>>> then opened
>>>> visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before (thank
>>>> you very much
>>>> for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my
>>>> Build.Log.htm in
>>>> German, but I translated it every time.
>>>>
>>>> Buildprotokoll (building journal):
>>>>
>>>> Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration:
>>>> "Release|Win32"
>>>> (Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release|
>>>> Win32")
>>>>
>>>> Befehlszeilen (command lines):
>>>>
>>>> Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird
>>>> erstellt. Inhalt:
>>>> [
>>>> @echo off
>>>>
>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-mus-
>>>> config.h
>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h
>>>>
>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-
>>>> sndlib.h
>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError
>>>>
>>>> goto VCEnd
>>>>
>>>> :VCReportError
>>>>
>>>> echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>
>>>> exit 1
>>>>
>>>> :VCEnd
>>>> ]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""
>>>>
>>>> Ausgabefenster (display window):
>>>>
>>>> Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>> Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
>>>> Quelle
>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>
>>>> Ergebnisse (results):
>>>>
>>>> Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>> sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:
>>>>
>>>> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:
>>>> Release Win32 ------
>>>> 1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>> 1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank
>>>> Common
>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>> 1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0
>>>> ?bersprungen
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>> A tool has returned an error code from the following source:
>>>> "Prebuilding is
>>>> executed..."
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean? What did I do wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robin Holmes schrieb:
>>>>> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core generator for
>>>>> some synths in the Macaw music program.
>>>>> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
>>>>> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/
>>>>> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be
>>>>> found by
>>>>> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
>>>>> Robin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Stk mailing list
>>>>> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>>>>
>>>> Chair of Computational Statistics
>>>> Faculty of Statistics
>>>> Technical University of Dortmund
>>>> 44221 Dortmund
>>>> Room 826
>>>>
>>>> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
>>>> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
>>>> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
>>>> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Cmdist mailing list
>>>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 


-- 
Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff

Chair of Computational Statistics
Faculty of Statistics
Technical University of Dortmund
44221 Dortmund
Room 826

Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 16 03:35:51 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:35:51 -0500
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>

based on the messages it would seem that you didnt install the lastest  
svn sources of common music. use tortoise svn to download the latest  
version of common music from
http://commonmusic.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/commonmusic/trunk

then dont supply --juce and cm will use its own amalgamated juce  
sources:

premake --verbose --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib



On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:55 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> Number 1. and 2. are o.k. now. Number 3. makes problems: I have put  
> the directory "juce" into C:\Software, then I went to "build" inside  
> of "juce" and compiled it with VC++. All without errors.
> Then I went to cmd and typed "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../ 
> sndlib", but an error occured:
>
> **premake.lua: premake.lua:112: CM requires juce, add --juce to your  
> premake options
> **Script failed to run, ending.
>
> Then I typed: "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib --juce ../ 
> juce"
> and this error message appeared:
>
> WARNING: no juce debug lib found for CONFIG=Debug
> ** premake.lua: premake.lua:205: attempt to call a table value
> **Script failed to run, ending
>
> What do I have to change? I compiled Juce as "release" and as  
> "debug", but... always the same error. Perhaps the command  
> "premake.... " etc. is wrong in that way I have written it?
>
>
>
> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>
> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
> on your PATH variable:
>
>        http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>
> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
> click OK.
>
> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>
>    cd \Software\cm
>    premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>
> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>
>
>
> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>> ok great. if Grace doesnt have an icon showing you can do an snv  
>> update and then follow what i sent this morning.
>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  
>> wrote:
>>> Yessssss great, it worked! 0 errors, 474 warnings. Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>> i have no idea why you are working under a directory call "steel  
>>>> bank
>>>> common lisp". sndlib has nothing to do with common lisp or sbcl.  
>>>> since
>>>> windows uses its shell to copy the windows-sndlib.h  files i think
>>>> maybe the spaces in "steel bank common lisp" possible cause  
>>>> things to
>>>> break please follow these directions in README.sndlib EXACTLY. if  
>>>> this
>>>> doesnt work im sorry i cant help any more than this, you'll have to
>>>> wait for a binary release in a week or two,
>>>>
>>>> BUILDING SNDLIB AND CM FROM SOURCES ON WINDOWS
>>>>
>>>> These instructions assume you already have Microsoft Visual Studio
>>>> Express C++ 2008 installed on your computer. Its easiest if you  
>>>> create
>>>> a common folder to hold the source trees for CM and SndLib.  I  
>>>> created
>>>> a C:\Software directory to hold both systems on my machine:
>>>>
>>>>        C:\Software\sndlib
>>>>        C:\Software\cm
>>>>
>>>> BUILDING SNDLIB ON WINDOWS
>>>>
>>>> 1. Download and install the latest version of SndLib:
>>>>
>>>>        ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/sndlib.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> 2. Double-click 'sndlib.vcproj' to open the project in Visual  
>>>> Studio
>>>> and choose 'Build Solution' from the Build menu (or press F7). This
>>>> should compile the release version of the sndlib library.
>>>>
>>>> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>>>>
>>>> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the  
>>>> executable is
>>>> on your PATH variable:
>>>>
>>>>        http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>>>>
>>>> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu  
>>>> and
>>>> click OK.
>>>>
>>>> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM  
>>>> directory and
>>>> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>>>>
>>>>    cd \Software\cm
>>>>    premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>>>>
>>>> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release  
>>>> configuration
>>>> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and
>>>>> then opened
>>>>> visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before  
>>>>> (thank
>>>>> you very much
>>>>> for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my
>>>>> Build.Log.htm in
>>>>> German, but I translated it every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Buildprotokoll (building journal):
>>>>>
>>>>> Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration:
>>>>> "Release|Win32"
>>>>> (Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release|
>>>>> Win32")
>>>>>
>>>>> Befehlszeilen (command lines):
>>>>>
>>>>> Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird
>>>>> erstellt. Inhalt:
>>>>> [
>>>>> @echo off
>>>>>
>>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows- 
>>>>> mus-
>>>>> config.h
>>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h
>>>>>
>>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-
>>>>> sndlib.h
>>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError
>>>>>
>>>>> goto VCEnd
>>>>>
>>>>> :VCReportError
>>>>>
>>>>> echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>>
>>>>> exit 1
>>>>>
>>>>> :VCEnd
>>>>> ]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""
>>>>>
>>>>> Ausgabefenster (display window):
>>>>>
>>>>> Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>> Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus  
>>>>> folgender
>>>>> Quelle
>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Ergebnisse (results):
>>>>>
>>>>> Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank  
>>>>> Common
>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>>> sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:
>>>>> Release Win32 ------
>>>>> 1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>> 1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank
>>>>> Common
>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>>> 1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>>> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0
>>>>> ?bersprungen
>>>>> ==========
>>>>>
>>>>> A tool has returned an error code from the following source:
>>>>> "Prebuilding is
>>>>> executed..."
>>>>>
>>>>> What does it mean? What did I do wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you again!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin Holmes schrieb:
>>>>>> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core  
>>>>>> generator for
>>>>>> some synths in the Macaw music program.
>>>>>> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
>>>>>> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/
>>>>>> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be
>>>>>> found by
>>>>>> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
>>>>>> Robin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Stk mailing list
>>>>>> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair of Computational Statistics
>>>>> Faculty of Statistics
>>>>> Technical University of Dortmund
>>>>> 44221 Dortmund
>>>>> Room 826
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
>>>>> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
>>>>> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
>>>>> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Cmdist mailing list
>>>>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> -- 
> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>
> Chair of Computational Statistics
> Faculty of Statistics
> Technical University of Dortmund
> 44221 Dortmund
> Room 826
>
> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html




From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Thu Jul 16 05:43:45 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:43:45 +0200
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

I downloaded this cm-file: https://sourceforge.net/projects/commonmusic/files/
Version 3.2.4


Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> based on the messages it would seem that you didnt install the lastest 
> svn sources of common music. use tortoise svn to download the latest 
> version of common music from
> http://commonmusic.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/commonmusic/trunk
> 
> then dont supply --juce and cm will use its own amalgamated juce sources:
> 
> premake --verbose --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:55 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:
> 
>> Number 1. and 2. are o.k. now. Number 3. makes problems: I have put 
>> the directory "juce" into C:\Software, then I went to "build" inside 
>> of "juce" and compiled it with VC++. All without errors.
>> Then I went to cmd and typed "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib 
>> ../sndlib", but an error occured:
>>
>> **premake.lua: premake.lua:112: CM requires juce, add --juce to your 
>> premake options
>> **Script failed to run, ending.
>>
>> Then I typed: "premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib --juce ../juce"
>> and this error message appeared:
>>
>> WARNING: no juce debug lib found for CONFIG=Debug
>> ** premake.lua: premake.lua:205: attempt to call a table value
>> **Script failed to run, ending
>>
>> What do I have to change? I compiled Juce as "release" and as "debug", 
>> but... always the same error. Perhaps the command "premake.... " etc. 
>> is wrong in that way I have written it?
>>
>>
>>
>> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>>
>> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
>> on your PATH variable:
>>
>>        http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>>
>> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
>> click OK.
>>
>> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
>> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>>
>>    cd \Software\cm
>>    premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>>
>> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
>> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>>
>>
>>
>> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>>> ok great. if Grace doesnt have an icon showing you can do an snv 
>>> update and then follow what i sent this morning.
>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de wrote:
>>>> Yessssss great, it worked! 0 errors, 474 warnings. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i have no idea why you are working under a directory call "steel bank
>>>>> common lisp". sndlib has nothing to do with common lisp or sbcl. since
>>>>> windows uses its shell to copy the windows-sndlib.h  files i think
>>>>> maybe the spaces in "steel bank common lisp" possible cause things to
>>>>> break please follow these directions in README.sndlib EXACTLY. if this
>>>>> doesnt work im sorry i cant help any more than this, you'll have to
>>>>> wait for a binary release in a week or two,
>>>>>
>>>>> BUILDING SNDLIB AND CM FROM SOURCES ON WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> These instructions assume you already have Microsoft Visual Studio
>>>>> Express C++ 2008 installed on your computer. Its easiest if you create
>>>>> a common folder to hold the source trees for CM and SndLib.  I created
>>>>> a C:\Software directory to hold both systems on my machine:
>>>>>
>>>>>        C:\Software\sndlib
>>>>>        C:\Software\cm
>>>>>
>>>>> BUILDING SNDLIB ON WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Download and install the latest version of SndLib:
>>>>>
>>>>>        ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/sndlib.tar.gz
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Double-click 'sndlib.vcproj' to open the project in Visual Studio
>>>>> and choose 'Build Solution' from the Build menu (or press F7). This
>>>>> should compile the release version of the sndlib library.
>>>>>
>>>>> BUILDING CM ON WINDOW
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Download and install Premake 3.7, make sure that the executable is
>>>>> on your PATH variable:
>>>>>
>>>>>        http://downloads.sourceforge.net/premake/premake-win32-3.7.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Open a CMD shell (terminal): Select Run... from the Start menu and
>>>>> click OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. In the terminal window, change directories to your CM directory and
>>>>> use premake to create the Visual Studio project files:
>>>>>
>>>>>    cd \Software\cm
>>>>>    premake --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Double click the file 'cm.sln' , select the Release configuration
>>>>> in the pulldown menu and press F7.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded the new version of stdlib, untared it in a folder and
>>>>>> then opened
>>>>>> visual c++. Now I didn't had the problem with snd.h as before (thank
>>>>>> you very much
>>>>>> for correcting it), but another error occured. This is my
>>>>>> Build.Log.htm in
>>>>>> German, but I translated it every time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Buildprotokoll (building journal):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erstellen wurde gestartet: Projekt: "sndlib", Konfiguration:
>>>>>> "Release|Win32"
>>>>>> (Building is startet: Project: "sndlib", configuration "Release|
>>>>>> Win32")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Befehlszeilen (command lines):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Die tempor?re Datei "c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat" wird
>>>>>> erstellt. Inhalt:
>>>>>> [
>>>>>> @echo off
>>>>>>
>>>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-mus-
>>>>>> config.h
>>>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\mus-config.h
>>>>>>
>>>>>> copy c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\windows-
>>>>>> sndlib.h
>>>>>> c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\sndlib.h
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if errorlevel 1 goto VCReportError
>>>>>>
>>>>>> goto VCEnd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :VCReportError
>>>>>>
>>>>>> echo Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> exit 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :VCEnd
>>>>>> ]Erstellen der Befehlszeile """c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BAT00000126363696.bat"""
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ausgabefenster (display window):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>>> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>>> Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
>>>>>> Quelle
>>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ergebnisse (results):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank Common
>>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>>>> sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here is what Visual C++ gives out after pressing F7:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1>------ Erstellen gestartet: Projekt: sndlib, Konfiguration:
>>>>>> Release Win32 ------
>>>>>> 1>Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt...
>>>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>>> 1>Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>>>>>> 1>Project : error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus
>>>>>> folgender Quelle
>>>>>> zur?ckgegeben: "Pr?buildereignis wird ausgef?hrt..."
>>>>>> 1>Das Buildprotokoll wurde unter "file://c:\Programme\Steel Bank
>>>>>> Common
>>>>>> Lisp\1.0.29\sndlib\obj\sndlib\Release\BuildLog.htm" gespeichert.
>>>>>> 1>sndlib - 1 Fehler, 0 Warnung(en)
>>>>>> ========== Erstellen: 0 erfolgreich, Fehler bei 1, 0 aktuell, 0
>>>>>> ?bersprungen
>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A tool has returned an error code from the following source:
>>>>>> "Prebuilding is
>>>>>> executed..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does it mean? What did I do wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin Holmes schrieb:
>>>>>>> A few of the STK Instruments have been used as the core generator 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> some synths in the Macaw music program.
>>>>>>> The Macaw program is free and uses the MIT license.
>>>>>>> See this link for more details. http://code.google.com/p/macaw/
>>>>>>> The STK synths are in the experimental menu option that can be
>>>>>>> found by
>>>>>>> right clicking the synth panel of the main Macaw program.
>>>>>>> Robin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Stk mailing list
>>>>>>> Stk at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chair of Computational Statistics
>>>>>> Faculty of Statistics
>>>>>> Technical University of Dortmund
>>>>>> 44221 Dortmund
>>>>>> Room 826
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
>>>>>> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
>>>>>> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
>>>>>> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Cmdist mailing list
>>>>>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>>>>>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff
>>
>> Chair of Computational Statistics
>> Faculty of Statistics
>> Technical University of Dortmund
>> 44221 Dortmund
>> Room 826
>>
>> Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
>> Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
>> E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
>> Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html
> 


-- 
Dipl.-Math. Markus Eichhoff

Chair of Computational Statistics
Faculty of Statistics
Technical University of Dortmund
44221 Dortmund
Room 826

Phone:       +49 (0)231 755 - 5903
Telefax:     +49 (0)231 755 - 4387
E-mail:      eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de
Web:         http://www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de/eichhoff_eng.html



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 16 06:59:19 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:59:19 -0500
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>
	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <651CE15C-7F01-43B8-928D-74C902F729AC@uiuc.edu>

install the lastest
svn sources of common music. use tortoise svn to download the latest
version of common music from
http://commonmusic.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/commonmusic/trunk

then dont supply --juce and cm will use its own amalgamated juce  
sources:

premake --verbose --target vs2008 --sndlib ../sndlib




From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 16 07:39:52 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:39:52 -0500
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <4A5F3234.2080301@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>
	<4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
	<4A5F3234.2080301@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Message-ID: <A29B2B61-CA0E-41AA-AF56-20F7824AA6A3@uiuc.edu>

cm/bin/Grace.exe

this contains sndlib and cm3. double-click it. look in the  
Help>example menu for examples. if you dont want to learn scheme you  
can use sal, look in the tutorials.
Snd is a differnet program, sorry i dont have the time to explain...




On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> Ok, I downloaded the trunk, now 1.-4. worked. But how can I start  
> grace or cm? I don't find the executables...?! How can I start  
> sndlib or cm and how can I
>
> Here http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/sndclm.html it is  
> said that one has to start "Snd". But Snd I don't see in the whole  
> sndlib directory. But perhaps I have to look somewhere else?
>
> OR:
>
>    sndlib, cm
>
>



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 16 10:44:43 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:44:43 -0700
Subject: [CM] installing juce
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> Here http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/sndclm.html it is   
> said that one has to start "Snd". But Snd I don't see in the whole   
> sndlib directory

oh come on... You're looking at the Snd documentation!  What do you expect
it to say?  sndlib has a CLM implementation; it can be incorporated into
other programs, like common music.  If it is, then you can call it there
in the same way you would in Snd.



From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Thu Jul 16 11:26:42 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:26:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] installing juce
In-Reply-To: <20090716174039.M50468@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
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No that's ok. But I would add it as point 5. where to find the
executables. Ok, for people who always work with these files it's clear
that one find them in C:\Software\cm\bin, but if one is new to it, then
it's not so clear.

But anyway, the installation was a success. Thank you very much!


>> Here http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/sndclm.html it is
>> said that one has to start "Snd". But Snd I don't see in the whole
>> sndlib directory
>
> oh come on... You're looking at the Snd documentation!  What do you expect
> it to say?  sndlib has a CLM implementation; it can be incorporated into
> other programs, like common music.  If it is, then you can call it there
> in the same way you would in Snd.
>
>




From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 16 12:09:37 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:09:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] installing juce
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On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:26 PM, eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de wrote:

> No that's ok. But I would add it as point 5. where to find the
> executables. Ok, for people who always work with these files it's  
> clear
> that one find them in C:\Software\cm\bin, but if one is new to it,  
> then
> it's not so clear.

everything -- including what apps are built, where they are found and  
how to build them -- is described in cm/readme.text  ;)



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 16 13:27:38 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:27:38 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;
	floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
	should
In-Reply-To: <fd6b5e7b427ae64389996e8eb3ac3347.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
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;floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but  
should
be a real, line 6
wrong-type-arg

ok, this works on osx so  maybe a number issue for windows. ill wait  
to see if bil has any ideas.
btw there is an implementaton of loop which is much easier than do:

(with-sound (:play #t)
   (loop for i from 0 to 7
      do (p (* i .5) :duration .5
                :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
                :strike-velocity .5
                :amp .4
                :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25)))




From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Fri Jul 17 02:47:26 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (eichhoff)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:47:26 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex,
 but	should
In-Reply-To: <AAFC1DB1-818C-4B59-B79C-39228D5B9BD3@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>	<4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<4A5F3234.2080301@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<A29B2B61-CA0E-41AA-AF56-20F7824AA6A3@uiuc.edu>	<20090716174039.M50468@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<4476230c3cc30f4351d91591bd8a5242.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<ADC028A8-9F82-4137-BAC9-1855AD516440@uiuc.edu>	<fd6b5e7b427ae64389996e8eb3ac3347.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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So, something interesting to report:

I installed cm, sndlib etc. on Linux (recent Ubuntu version) to test 
whether "my" piano.scm is working there and because the development for 
windows is slowing down (I have read the README.txt in sndlib, imagine 
that ;-))

This is not working:

"paste" doesn't work in Grace. Copy works, but if I like to insert the 
text via Ctrl + v or "Edit -> paste" there happens nothing.

Thank you very much! I am happy that the piano works now and that I can 
consider the parameters in detail.


Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> ;floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but  
> should
> be a real, line 6
> wrong-type-arg
> 
> ok, this works on osx so  maybe a number issue for windows. ill wait  
> to see if bil has any ideas.
> btw there is an implementaton of loop which is much easier than do:
> 
> (with-sound (:play #t)
>    (loop for i from 0 to 7
>       do (p (* i .5) :duration .5
>                 :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
>                 :strike-velocity .5
>                 :amp .4
>                 :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25)))
> 
> 
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Fri Jul 17 02:55:28 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (eichhoff)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:55:28 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex,
 but	should
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Ah, now it seems to working with "paste". Great...



Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> ;floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but  
> should
> be a real, line 6
> wrong-type-arg
> 
> ok, this works on osx so  maybe a number issue for windows. ill wait  
> to see if bil has any ideas.
> btw there is an implementaton of loop which is much easier than do:
> 
> (with-sound (:play #t)
>    (loop for i from 0 to 7
>       do (p (* i .5) :duration .5
>                 :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
>                 :strike-velocity .5
>                 :amp .4
>                 :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25)))
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Fri Jul 17 03:10:55 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (eichhoff)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:10:55 +0200
Subject: [CM] stereo-flute.clm
In-Reply-To: <AAFC1DB1-818C-4B59-B79C-39228D5B9BD3@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>	<4A5DF338.4000903@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<ECE54D86-7D81-4014-B4AC-3D1B9B2BC30F@uiuc.edu>	<5bc19db096559be644114720a0bb5263.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<933749A0-0773-4C5C-B3B8-90E4278EBD85@uiuc.edu>	<4A5EDCE1.9070503@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<4AF5AFE8-8CE6-40D8-BFB5-4EF70845AA87@uiuc.edu>	<4A5F2081.4050300@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<4A5F3234.2080301@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<A29B2B61-CA0E-41AA-AF56-20F7824AA6A3@uiuc.edu>	<20090716174039.M50468@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<4476230c3cc30f4351d91591bd8a5242.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>	<ADC028A8-9F82-4137-BAC9-1855AD516440@uiuc.edu>	<fd6b5e7b427ae64389996e8eb3ac3347.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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One remark: In the example of stereo-flute.clm one bracket ")" is 
missing at the end.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Jul 18 07:14:39 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:14:39 -0700
Subject: [CM] ;
	floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
	should
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> floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex

Thanks for the bug report!  With Rick's help, I got the windows cm
running in wine, and I think this bug is due to the lack of complex
number support in s7 + Visual C++ (we might be able to get around 
that) coupled with a slightly lackidasical expt implementation
(I assumed cpow was available).  Anyway, I think this problem is
fixed now, and that even in the no-complex-support case,
anything in CLM should be ok (I checked all the other math ops).



From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Sun Jul 19 03:20:19 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:20:19 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
 should
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Yes, now the program works fine in windows without this floor argument error.

Now I loaded piano.scm and then typed one example from this site:
http://s260134055.onlinehome.us/modeling/ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Courses/220a:1998/Lectures/9/9.html

This worked fine:

(with-sound ()
   (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
      (p
       (* i .5)
       :duration .5
       :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
       :strike-velocity .5
       :amp .4
       :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25)))

But when I used some stiffness-factors or dampers then the program grace
crashed. As attachment I sent you the error message windows saved in the
documents/temp directory. Perhaps you understand why.
Here is the program code that caused the error (also from the site
mentioned above):

(with-sound ()
   (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
      (p
       (* i .5)
       :duration .5
       :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
       :strike-velocity .5
       :amp .4
       :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
       :detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96
100 108 300)
       :stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0))))

Best regards
Markus

>
> floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex
>
> Thanks for the bug report!  With Rick's help, I got the windows cm
> running in wine, and I think this bug is due to the lack of complex
> number support in s7 + Visual C++ (we might be able to get around
> that) coupled with a slightly lackidasical expt implementation
> (I assumed cpow was available).  Anyway, I think this problem is
> fixed now, and that even in the no-complex-support case,
> anything in CLM should be ok (I checked all the other math ops).
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
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From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Sun Jul 19 03:25:48 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:25:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
 should
In-Reply-To: <ccf7359e3f2bb6bc99b1f64b07f4c137.squirrel@www.statistik.tu-dortmund.d
	e>
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I forgot to say: I used grace in windows XP environment (recent Service
Pack etc., everything with newest versions). Might be possible that the
error doesn't occur in Linux.

> Yes, now the program works fine in windows without this floor argument
> error.
>
> Now I loaded piano.scm and then typed one example from this site:
> http://s260134055.onlinehome.us/modeling/ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Courses/220a:1998/Lectures/9/9.html
>
> This worked fine:
>
> (with-sound ()
>    (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
>       (p
>        (* i .5)
>        :duration .5
>        :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
>        :strike-velocity .5
>        :amp .4
>        :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25)))
>
> But when I used some stiffness-factors or dampers then the program grace
> crashed. As attachment I sent you the error message windows saved in the
> documents/temp directory. Perhaps you understand why.
> Here is the program code that caused the error (also from the site
> mentioned above):
>
> (with-sound ()
>    (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
>       (p
>        (* i .5)
>        :duration .5
>        :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
>        :strike-velocity .5
>        :amp .4
>        :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
>        :detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96
> 100 108 300)
>        :stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
> 84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0))))
>
> Best regards
> Markus
>
>>
>> floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex
>>
>> Thanks for the bug report!  With Rick's help, I got the windows cm
>> running in wine, and I think this bug is due to the lack of complex
>> number support in s7 + Visual C++ (we might be able to get around
>> that) coupled with a slightly lackidasical expt implementation
>> (I assumed cpow was available).  Anyway, I think this problem is
>> fixed now, and that even in the no-complex-support case,
>> anything in CLM should be ok (I checked all the other math ops).
>>
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Jul 19 06:36:43 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:36:43 -0700
Subject: [CM] ;
	floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
	should
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That piano example seems to work both in linux and wine.
Can you get a stack trace, or some idea of where it is when it crashes?



From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jul 19 06:41:19 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:41:19 -0500
Subject: [CM] audio plots
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svn additions:  Console's File menu now has a few more plotting  
commands: "Open Midi Plot..."   translates a midifile into a plot with  
each track as its own "point layer" in Piano roll point  style. The  
Play Plot...  dialog now has tools to let you write a midi file from  
any plot in addtion to playing it out the port.  So you can load a  
midilfe, edit it graphically, and then export that data to lisp/xml or  
save it again, a poor man's sequencer!

ive also bumped the cm version to 3.3.0 in anticipation of the  
upcoming release (hopefully by the end of the month at the latest)








From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jul 19 08:06:33 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:06:33 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;
	floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
	should
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at least on OSX in that loop when the keyNum hits 108 then it never  
completes. pianos only have 88 keys so maybe this tickles some out of  
bound issue?
even a single note with 108 never finishes and my disk starts racing:

(with-sound ()
   (p
	 0
	 :duration .5
	 :keyNum 108
	 :strike-velocity .5
	 :amp .4
	 :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
	 :detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96  
100 108 300)
	 :stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3  
84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0)
	 ))



On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> That piano example seems to work both in linux and wine.
> Can you get a stack trace, or some idea of where it is when it  
> crashes?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Sun Jul 19 08:53:21 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:53:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
 should
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with :keyNum 80 I tested it, and it worked, but with :keyNum 108, it
crashed, too:

(with-sound ()
   (p
0
:duration 2
:keyNum 80
:strike-velocity .5
:amp .4
:DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
:detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96
100 108 300)
:stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0)
))

But with
"loop for i from 0 to 7 do
      (p
       (* i .5)"
inside, it crashes.

I don'T know how to trace it. Perhaps I have to compile the
cm/grace/juce... in debug modus and have to set some other special
options...?
The overdamped example on the site
http://s260134055.onlinehome.us/modeling/ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Courses/220a:1998/Lectures/9/9.html
works again:

(with-sound (:output "/zap/thdamped.snd")
   (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
      (p
       (* i .5)
       :duration .5
       :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
       :strike-velocity .5              ;0 to 1, 0 is softest played note,
1 is loud note
       :amp .4                          ;overall volume level
       :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25     ;0 no open string resonance
					;1.0 is about full resonance of dampers raised
					;can be greater than 1.0

       ;;modifications to do damped sounds
       :singleStringDecayRate-table '(21 -5 24.000 -5.000 36.000 -5.4
41.953 -5.867
                                      48.173 -7.113 53.818 -8.016 59.693
-8.875 66.605 -9.434
                                      73.056 -10.035 78.931 -10.293 84.000
-12.185)
       :singleStringPole-table '(21 .8 24 0.7  36.000 .6 48 .5 60 .3 84 .1
96 .03 108 .03)
       :stiffnessCoefficient-table '(21.000 -0.920 24.000 -0.900 36.000
-0.700 48.000 -0.250
                                     60.000 -0.100 75.179 -0.040 82.986
-0.040 92.240 .3
                                     96.000 .5 99.000 .7 108.000 .7)
				     ;these are the actual allpass coefficients modified here
				     ;to allow dampedness at hig freqs
       )))




> at least on OSX in that loop when the keyNum hits 108 then it never
> completes. pianos only have 88 keys so maybe this tickles some out of
> bound issue?
> even a single note with 108 never finishes and my disk starts racing:
>
> (with-sound ()
>    (p
> 	 0
> 	 :duration .5
> 	 :keyNum 108
> 	 :strike-velocity .5
> 	 :amp .4
> 	 :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
> 	 :detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96
> 100 108 300)
> 	 :stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
> 84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0)
> 	 ))
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>
>> That piano example seems to work both in linux and wine.
>> Can you get a stack trace, or some idea of where it is when it
>> crashes?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
> _______________________________________________
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>




From eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de  Sun Jul 19 09:03:40 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de (eichhoff at statistik.uni-dortmund.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:03:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] piano.scm
In-Reply-To: <85A63E8A-DEFE-4D09-8D39-7A163A205384@uiuc.edu>
References: <ca23ed050907150615i7b136cfbt3f989a36b1cc2dcf@mail.gmail.com>
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By the way, who has written the piano.scm file or piano.ins? "Scott Van
Duyne" model is written there. He has written the program, too? I ask
myself how to get to the "table" numbers and what each number means:

:detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96 100 108
300)
:stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0)

Is it possible (as far as you know) to get such factors from real
instruments or are they more artificial and a bit far away from "real
physics"? I have a classical guitar model written in MATLAB where I put in
the string length, density, Youngs Modulus etc. and the output is a tone
in .wav. There I have a direct connection from physical changes (plucking
place etc.) to physics. But if I look at the piano model I see such tables
and factors... but the commuted piano model on which it is based is called
a "physical model". When is a model called "physical"? If it's based on
the wave equation somewhere?

I like to create tones (guitar: plucked at random places (e.g. normal
distributed), piano (vary some parameters) etc.) to get many tones with
which I can do my classification and later to consider the instrument
recognition from short pieces of music. That's why I am looking for
physical models, because there are parameters that can be varied.

There are good physical models (-> pianoteq), but the question is: how god
has a model to be that it's good enough for classification later...
Perhaps I will try it first with this model and if it's too bad for it, I
have to go on searching... or to use pianoteq.

Or do you know other piano-models (saxophone also sounds a bit strange in
comparison to real saxophones)?




From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Mon Jul 20 02:34:26 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:34:26 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;
 floor argument 93.649190420188-93.649190420188i is a complex, but
 should
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Mon Jul 20 03:16:15 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (eichhoff)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:16:15 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I installed all 
packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this morning. 
I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the program 
completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So that's 
not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:


(with-sound ()
     (loop for i from 0 to 7 do
        (p
         (* i .5)
         :duration .5
         :keyNum (+ 24 (* 12 i))
         :strike-velocity .5
         :amp .4
         :DryPedalResonanceFactor .25
         :detuningFactor-table '(24 5 36 7.0 48 7.5 60 12.0 72 20 84 30 96
  100 108 300)
         :stiffnessFactor-table '(21 1.5 24 1.5 36 1.5 48 1.5 60 1.4 72 1.3
  84 1.2 96 1.0 108 1.0))))




Bill Schottstaedt schrieb:
>> at least on OSX in that loop when the keyNum hits 108 then it never   
>> completes.
> 
> It does for me.  I still don't see this problem.  Maybe I have to be in
> running in Grace?  (I'm using Snd on OSX, cm on Linux and Wine).
> 
> 



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 20 05:18:37 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:18:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
In-Reply-To: <4A6443EF.4090108@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
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its impossible to resolve problems if you change environments. please  
do not use svn juce or an external lib, use the stable amalgamated  
juce sources i ship. cm/readme.text has exact instruction for how to  
build on linix and macos

i will have more time tomorrow to look for conflicting symbols, and to  
make sure cm has the latest piano.scm

On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:16 AM, eichhoff wrote:

> Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I installed all
> packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this  
> morning.
> I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the program
> completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So that's
> not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:
>



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 20 11:16:01 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:16:01 -0700
Subject: [CM] funny scheme code
Message-ID: <20090720181252.M92052@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

For some reason, this code strikes me as funny:

(let ((j (lambda () 0))
	(k 0))
  (do ((i (j) (j))
	  (j (lambda () 1) (lambda () (+ i 1))))
          ((= i 3) k)
     (set! k (+ k i))))

would you believe 6?  Maybe I need a vacation.



From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Mon Jul 20 12:02:38 2009
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:02:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] funny scheme code
In-Reply-To: <20090720181252.M92052@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090720181252.M92052@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907202101090.27429@ben.ifi.uio.no>



On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> For some reason, this code strikes me as funny:
>
> (let ((j (lambda () 0))
> 	(k 0))
>  (do ((i (j) (j))
> 	  (j (lambda () 1) (lambda () (+ i 1))))
>          ((= i 3) k)
>     (set! k (+ k i))))
>
> would you believe 6?  Maybe I need a vacation.
>

A slight modifications makes Guile (the one included
with fedora 11) crash:


[kjetil at ttleon bin]$ guile
guile> (let ((j (lambda () 0))
...       (k 0))
...   (do ((i (j)
...           (j))
...        (l (lambda ()
...             1)
...           (lambda ()
...             (+ i 1))))
...       ((= i 3) k)
...     (set! k (+ k i))))
Segmentation fault
[kjetil at ttleon bin]$
[kjetil at ttleon bin]$
[kjetil at ttleon bin]$ guile --version
Guile 1.8.6
Copyright (c) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 
2007, 2008 Free Software Foundation
Guile may be distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public 
Licence;
certain other uses are permitted as well.  For details, see the file
`COPYING', which is included in the Guile distribution.
There is no warranty, to the extent permitted by law.
[kjetil at ttleon bin]$




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 20 12:25:52 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:25:52 -0700
Subject: [CM] funny scheme code
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907202101090.27429@ben.ifi.uio.no>
References: <20090720181252.M92052@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907202101090.27429@ben.ifi.uio.no>
Message-ID: <20090720192540.M81813@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> Segmentation fault 

Is that how a program laughs?  




From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 21 02:16:03 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:16:03 +0200
Subject: [CM] funny scheme code
In-Reply-To: <20090720192540.M81813@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090720181252.M92052@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>	<Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907202101090.27429@ben.ifi.uio.no>
	<20090720192540.M81813@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <4A658753.8030704@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>

Did you change something in cm? I can't compile it anymore with windows. 
sndlib-compilation was o.k. then I typed premake --target etc. etc., was 
also o.k. but when I opened cm.cls (I am not sure, but you know what I 
mean) then only juce could be compiled without errors. The building 
files were to long to paste them here. I will try it now to compile it 
with Linux.


Bill Schottstaedt schrieb:
>> Segmentation fault 
>>     
>
> Is that how a program laughs?  
>
>
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Technical University of Dortmund
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 21 02:53:13 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:53:13 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
In-Reply-To: <889048CE-FDCC-4119-A6E1-DE95662E3EB8@uiuc.edu>
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In Windows AND in Linux it's now not possible to compile the programs. I 
downloaded now the trunk version of cm, the stable juce-zip-Version, 
sndlib from CCRMA and premake 3.7 and made everything regarding to the 
readme-file in /cm.
In Linux the last "make" doesn't work (after premake), two misstakes are 
shown. As attachment I put the code that I received in linux. Perhaps 
you see where the problem is.

Best regards
Markus


Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> its impossible to resolve problems if you change environments. please do 
> not use svn juce or an external lib, use the stable amalgamated juce 
> sources i ship. cm/readme.text has exact instruction for how to build on 
> linix and macos
> 
> i will have more time tomorrow to look for conflicting symbols, and to 
> make sure cm has the latest piano.scm
> 
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:16 AM, eichhoff wrote:
> 
>> Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I installed all
>> packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this morning.
>> I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the program
>> completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So that's
>> not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:
>>
> 
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 21 04:30:31 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:30:31 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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due to the (ongoing) Fomus work, svn tip may be a bit unstable over  
the next week while we attempt to finish and test
if you do an 'svn update' (rev 1734) then everything should compile on  
windows.
apologies!

On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:53 AM, eichhoff wrote:

> In Windows AND in Linux it's now not possible to compile the  
> programs. I downloaded now the trunk version of cm, the stable juce- 
> zip-Version, sndlib from CCRMA and premake 3.7 and made everything  
> regarding to the readme-file in /cm.
> In Linux the last "make" doesn't work (after premake), two misstakes  
> are shown. As attachment I put the code that I received in linux.  
> Perhaps you see where the problem is.
>
> Best regards
> Markus
>
>
> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>> its impossible to resolve problems if you change environments.  
>> please do not use svn juce or an external lib, use the stable  
>> amalgamated juce sources i ship. cm/readme.text has exact  
>> instruction for how to build on linix and macos
>> i will have more time tomorrow to look for conflicting symbols, and  
>> to make sure cm has the latest piano.scm
>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:16 AM, eichhoff wrote:
>>> Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I installed  
>>> all
>>> packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this  
>>> morning.
>>> I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the  
>>> program
>>> completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So  
>>> that's
>>> not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:
>>>
> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software# cd cm
> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake -verbose --target gnu -- 
> sndlib ../sndlib
> Generating GNU makefiles:
> ...juce
> ...cm
> ...grace
> ...gracecl
> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake --verbose --target gnu  
> --sndlib ../sndlib
> Generating GNU makefiles:
> ...juce
> ...cm
> ...grace
> ...gracecl
> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# make
> ==== Building juce ====
> mkdir -p obj/juce/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "LINUX" -I "src" -I "/usr/include/freetype2"  -O2 -o  
> "obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o" -c "src/juce_amalgamated.cpp"
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static const  
> juce::File juce::File::getCurrentWorkingDirectory()?:
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243538: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von  
> ?char* getcwd(char*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut  
> warn_unused_result deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In member function ?void  
> juce::NamedPipe::cancelPendingReads()?:
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243745: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von  
> ?ssize_t write(int, const void*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut  
> warn_unused_result deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static void  
> juce::Logger::outputDebugString(const juce::String&)?:
> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:244380: Warnung: Format ist kein  
> Zeichenkettenliteral, und keine Formatargumente
> mkdir -p bin
> mkdir -p .
> mkdir -p ./obj/juce
> ar -rcs ./obj/juce/libjuce.a obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o
> ==== Building cm ====
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o" -c "src/Scanner.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o" -c "src/Syntax.cpp"
> src/Syntax.cpp: In member function ?virtual void  
> LispSyntax::eval(juce::String, bool, bool)?:
> src/Syntax.cpp:327: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> src/Syntax.cpp:333: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/CmSupport.o" -c "src/CmSupport.cpp"
> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?void cm_shell(char*)?:
> src/CmSupport.cpp:69: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von ?int  
> system(const char*)?, der mit dem Attribut warn_unused_result  
> deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?char* cm_pathname_directory(char*)?:
> src/CmSupport.cpp:607: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Console.o" -c "src/Console.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Scheme.o" -c "src/Scheme.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o" -c "src/Preferences.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o" -c "src/SchemeSources.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Midi.o" -c "src/Midi.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Csound.o" -c "src/Csound.cpp"
> src/Csound.cpp: In member function ?void Csound::runApplication()?:
> src/Csound.cpp:130: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Main.o" -c "src/Main.cpp"
> In file included from src/Main.cpp:16:
> src/CommonLisp.h:37: Warnung: ?typedef? wurde in dieser Deklaration  
> ignoriert
> src/Main.cpp: In function ?int main(int, const char**)?:
> src/Main.cpp:265: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/SndLib.o" -c "src/SndLib.cpp"
> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?void  
> SchemeNode::applyMidiInputHookNode()?:
> src/SndLib.cpp:147: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?int SndLib::performCommand(int,  
> int, juce::String)?:
> src/SndLib.cpp:193: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von  
> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o" -c "src/SndLibBridge.cpp"
> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 - 
> o "obj/cm/Release/Instruments.o" -c "src/Instruments.cpp"
> mkdir -p bin
> mkdir -p .
> mkdir -p bin
> g++ -o bin/cm obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o obj/ 
> cm/Release/CmSupport.o obj/cm/Release/Console.o obj/cm/Release/ 
> Scheme.o obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o  
> obj/cm/Release/Midi.o obj/cm/Release/Csound.o obj/cm/Release/Main.o  
> obj/cm/Release/SndLib.o obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o obj/cm/Release/ 
> Instruments.o  -Lbin -L. -s -L/usr/lib -lm -L/usr/lib -lgsl - 
> lgslcblas -lm -lasound -lm -L"obj/juce" -L"../sndlib/" -L"/usr/X11R6/ 
> lib/" -L./obj/juce -ljuce -lsndlib -lpthread -lrt -lX11 -lGL -lGLU - 
> lXinerama -lasound -lfreetype
> obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o: In function  
> `ffi_fms_isfiletype(s7_scheme*, s7_cell*)':
> SndLibBridge.cpp:(.text+0x7e37): undefined reference to  
> `fms_isfiletype(char const*)'
> collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zur?ck
> make[1]: *** [bin/cm] Fehler 1
> make: *** [cm] Fehler 2
>
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From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Tue Jul 21 04:34:11 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:34:11 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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No problem! :-) I am only happy if my computer is not crazy. So it's ok 
if you work there.
But I even deleted the old cm folder and downloaded again via svn co ... 
but then compiling didn't work (in windows + linux).
Ok, otherwise I will wait some time (one week or so). It's no problem.


Heinrich Taube schrieb:
> due to the (ongoing) Fomus work, svn tip may be a bit unstable over 
> the next week while we attempt to finish and test
> if you do an 'svn update' (rev 1734) then everything should compile on 
> windows.
> apologies!
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:53 AM, eichhoff wrote:
>
>> In Windows AND in Linux it's now not possible to compile the 
>> programs. I downloaded now the trunk version of cm, the stable 
>> juce-zip-Version, sndlib from CCRMA and premake 3.7 and made 
>> everything regarding to the readme-file in /cm.
>> In Linux the last "make" doesn't work (after premake), two misstakes 
>> are shown. As attachment I put the code that I received in linux. 
>> Perhaps you see where the problem is.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>>> its impossible to resolve problems if you change environments. 
>>> please do not use svn juce or an external lib, use the stable 
>>> amalgamated juce sources i ship. cm/readme.text has exact 
>>> instruction for how to build on linix and macos
>>> i will have more time tomorrow to look for conflicting symbols, and 
>>> to make sure cm has the latest piano.scm
>>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:16 AM, eichhoff wrote:
>>>> Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I installed all
>>>> packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this 
>>>> morning.
>>>> I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the program
>>>> completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So that's
>>>> not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:
>>>>
>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software# cd cm
>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake -verbose --target gnu 
>> --sndlib ../sndlib
>> Generating GNU makefiles:
>> ...juce
>> ...cm
>> ...grace
>> ...gracecl
>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake --verbose --target gnu 
>> --sndlib ../sndlib
>> Generating GNU makefiles:
>> ...juce
>> ...cm
>> ...grace
>> ...gracecl
>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# make
>> ==== Building juce ====
>> mkdir -p obj/juce/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "LINUX" -I "src" -I "/usr/include/freetype2"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o" -c "src/juce_amalgamated.cpp"
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static const 
>> juce::File juce::File::getCurrentWorkingDirectory()?:
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243538: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von ?char* 
>> getcwd(char*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut warn_unused_result 
>> deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In member function ?void 
>> juce::NamedPipe::cancelPendingReads()?:
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243745: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von 
>> ?ssize_t write(int, const void*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut 
>> warn_unused_result deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static void 
>> juce::Logger::outputDebugString(const juce::String&)?:
>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:244380: Warnung: Format ist kein 
>> Zeichenkettenliteral, und keine Formatargumente
>> mkdir -p bin
>> mkdir -p .
>> mkdir -p ./obj/juce
>> ar -rcs ./obj/juce/libjuce.a obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o
>> ==== Building cm ====
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o" -c "src/Scanner.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o" -c "src/Syntax.cpp"
>> src/Syntax.cpp: In member function ?virtual void 
>> LispSyntax::eval(juce::String, bool, bool)?:
>> src/Syntax.cpp:327: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> src/Syntax.cpp:333: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/CmSupport.o" -c "src/CmSupport.cpp"
>> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?void cm_shell(char*)?:
>> src/CmSupport.cpp:69: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von ?int system(const 
>> char*)?, der mit dem Attribut warn_unused_result deklariert wurde, 
>> wird ignoriert
>> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?char* cm_pathname_directory(char*)?:
>> src/CmSupport.cpp:607: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Console.o" -c "src/Console.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Scheme.o" -c "src/Scheme.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o" -c "src/Preferences.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o" -c "src/SchemeSources.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Midi.o" -c "src/Midi.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Csound.o" -c "src/Csound.cpp"
>> src/Csound.cpp: In member function ?void Csound::runApplication()?:
>> src/Csound.cpp:130: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Main.o" -c "src/Main.cpp"
>> In file included from src/Main.cpp:16:
>> src/CommonLisp.h:37: Warnung: ?typedef? wurde in dieser Deklaration 
>> ignoriert
>> src/Main.cpp: In function ?int main(int, const char**)?:
>> src/Main.cpp:265: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/SndLib.o" -c "src/SndLib.cpp"
>> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?void 
>> SchemeNode::applyMidiInputHookNode()?:
>> src/SndLib.cpp:147: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?int SndLib::performCommand(int, 
>> int, juce::String)?:
>> src/SndLib.cpp:193: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von 
>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o" -c "src/SndLibBridge.cpp"
>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  -O2 -o 
>> "obj/cm/Release/Instruments.o" -c "src/Instruments.cpp"
>> mkdir -p bin
>> mkdir -p .
>> mkdir -p bin
>> g++ -o bin/cm obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o 
>> obj/cm/Release/CmSupport.o obj/cm/Release/Console.o 
>> obj/cm/Release/Scheme.o obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o 
>> obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o obj/cm/Release/Midi.o 
>> obj/cm/Release/Csound.o obj/cm/Release/Main.o obj/cm/Release/SndLib.o 
>> obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o obj/cm/Release/Instruments.o  -Lbin -L. 
>> -s -L/usr/lib -lm -L/usr/lib -lgsl -lgslcblas -lm -lasound -lm 
>> -L"obj/juce" -L"../sndlib/" -L"/usr/X11R6/lib/" -L./obj/juce -ljuce 
>> -lsndlib -lpthread -lrt -lX11 -lGL -lGLU -lXinerama -lasound -lfreetype
>> obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o: In function 
>> `ffi_fms_isfiletype(s7_scheme*, s7_cell*)':
>> SndLibBridge.cpp:(.text+0x7e37): undefined reference to 
>> `fms_isfiletype(char const*)'
>> collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zur?ck
>> make[1]: *** [bin/cm] Fehler 1
>> make: *** [cm] Fehler 2
>>
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 23 04:12:45 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:12:45 -0500
Subject: [CM] Drunk
In-Reply-To: <690927.1662.qm@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <690927.1662.qm@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5786D08B-EA63-42E4-BA34-32EDDCAF03B6@uiuc.edu>

> Hi Rick
> Is there a way to implement the drunk function in cm3?
> The drunk function from cm2 produces random walks from brown noise:
> http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/cm2/doc/dict/index.html
> Thanks
> Hagai

ive ported missing function 'drunk' and 'copier ' pattern to cm3 and  
updated documentation. note that the name 'copier' has been renamed  
'repeater' to better reflect what the pattern does. use 'make- 
repeater' to create a repeater pattern.  also fixed the documentation  
of rotation, which had incorrect ordering of rotation arguments.




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 23 07:23:03 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:23:03 -0700
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
Message-ID: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I've googled around and looked through clTl2 but I can't find a way
in Lisp (scheme) to get the current function name (from an embedded
macro, for example).  Is there some (non-)standard way to do this? 



From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Thu Jul 23 07:49:36 2009
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:49:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907231641270.26085@anakin.ifi.uio.no>



On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> I've googled around and looked through clTl2 but I can't find a way
> in Lisp (scheme) to get the current function name (from an embedded
> macro, for example).  Is there some (non-)standard way to do this?
>

At least in Guile, you can redefine 'define'.
So using a global variable to store the last called
function should work. Untested:

(define last-called-function #f)

(define old-define define)

(define-macro (define def . code)
   (if (pair? def)
       (let ((name (car def)))
         (set! code `((lambda ,(cdr def)
                        (set! last-called-function ',name)
                        (let ()
                          , at code))))
         (set! def name)))
   `(old-define ,def
                (let ();
                  (set! last-called-function ',name)
                  (let ()
                    , at code))))



From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Thu Jul 23 08:40:41 2009
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:40:41 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64-L.0907231641270.26085@anakin.ifi.uio.no>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>
>> I've googled around and looked through clTl2 but I can't find a way
>> in Lisp (scheme) to get the current function name (from an embedded
>> macro, for example).  Is there some (non-)standard way to do this?
>>
>
> At least in Guile, you can redefine 'define'.
> So using a global variable to store the last called
> function should work. Untested:
>
> (define last-called-function #f)
>
> (define old-define define)
>
> (define-macro (define def . code)
>   (if (pair? def)
>       (let ((name (car def)))
>         (set! code `((lambda ,(cdr def)
>                        (set! last-called-function ',name)
>                        (let ()
>                          , at code))))
>         (set! def name)))
>   `(old-define ,def
>                (let ();
>                  (set! last-called-function ',name)
>                  (let ()
>                    , at code))))
>

I'm not sure if I quite understood what you ment though, but
here's a better version.

(define-macro define
   (let ((old-define define))
     (lambda (def . code)
       (if (pair? def)
           (let ((name (car def)))
             (set! code `((lambda ,(cdr def)
                            , at code)))
             (set! def name)))
       `(,old-define ,def
            (let ((current-function-name ',def))
              , at code)))))

guile> (define (a) (display current-function-name)(newline))
guile> (a)
a
guile>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 23 08:52:37 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:52:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>

im not sure if this is what you are asking, but i think most cltl's  
provide a way of getting a function name from a function object  
(assuming there is one) for example in ccl its:

Welcome to Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.1-r7885 (DarwinX8664)!
? (function-name #'*)
*

but im pretty sure this wont work for macros.




From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jul 23 09:15:38 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:15:38 -0500
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <ECBDAD03-2740-44A3-9331-8BE945C53BA2@uiuc.edu>

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/lisp-faq/part2/section-14.html
gives a few old implementation details.  the pure cltl method is  
really gross!:
  If a vendor-dependent function does not exist, the following  
(inefficient) code maps over all symbols looking for one whose  
function-cell matches the function object. (defun function-name  
(fobject) (do-all-symbols (fsymbol) (when (and (fboundp fsymbol) (eq  
(symbol-function fsymbol) fobject)) (return fsymbol))))



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 23 09:16:39 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:16:39 -0700
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20090723160843.M25005@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> (function-name #'*) 

but that assumes you have the function object -- Kjetil's code
does what I want, but  I was thinking "surely some lisp has this --
I'll use their name".

(The context is a break macro for s7 which puts a continuation
at the current spot, then jumps to the REPL with the current
environment intact so you can look at function arguments
and local variables, then call the continuation to continue
from the break point; but it would be neat if that macro could
announce what function it (the break) took place in.  There's a
brief example at the end of extensions.scm).



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 23 09:19:23 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:19:23 -0700
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <ECBDAD03-2740-44A3-9331-8BE945C53BA2@uiuc.edu>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
	<ECBDAD03-2740-44A3-9331-8BE945C53BA2@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20090723161804.M15774@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

that reference takes me back a long ways!  excl::arglist!!  I'll have to
look up function-lambda-expression -- there's always another corner
of lisp that I've never heard of.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 23 11:22:20 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:22:20 -0700
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <20090723161804.M15774@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
	<ECBDAD03-2740-44A3-9331-8BE945C53BA2@uiuc.edu>
	<20090723161804.M15774@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20090723181903.M63680@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

How's this strike you: #__func__, #__arglist__, #__file__, #__line__,
all filled in at read time -- I think this thing almost has to be a 
reader macro to work right.




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 23 12:34:16 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:34:16 -0700
Subject: [CM] __func__ in lisp?
In-Reply-To: <20090723181903.M63680@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20090723142021.M10546@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<5BF57018-ED2A-4B70-AC44-7ED7CB72783D@uiuc.edu>
	<ECBDAD03-2740-44A3-9331-8BE945C53BA2@uiuc.edu>
	<20090723161804.M15774@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	<20090723181903.M63680@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20090723192843.M5556@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> I think this thing almost has to be a reader macro to work right.

for file and line, perhaps, but, as an experiment, I've implemented it
as __func__ (a variable, defined only within a named closure; its
value is the symbol for the function being defined).  

(define (hiho arg) (list arg __func__))
(hiho 1)
(1 hiho)

hmmm, maybe it should be defined at top-level so you don't always
have to check that, but it's value outside  a named closure would be
nil.



From eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de  Mon Jul 27 01:37:30 2009
From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:37:30 +0200
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:43:41 +0200
Subject: [CM] Drunk
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From: eichhoff at statistik.tu-dortmund.de (Markus Eichhoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:49:49 +0200
Subject: [CM] Problem with CM
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 27 05:37:23 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:37:23 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm question
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You can use 'r' to mark rests:
cm> (note 'r)
"r"
cm> (key 'r)
-1
you can use negative values to mark rhythms:

cm> (rhythm -1/4)
-1.0


of course, you need to check for those values and not pass them on to  
you file or port!

(define (foo n)
    (process with pat = (make-weighting '(c4 r d4 r e4 r f4))
                     repeat n
                     for k = (key (next pat))
                     unless (eq? k -1)
                     do (send "mp:midi" :key k)
                     (wait .5)))





> hi,
>
> this is another, possibly completely stupid, question, but I'm just  
> doing some simple
> stuff with patterns, and wonder how you code for rests? I seem only  
> to be able to put
> a note-name on a rhythmic value. can you help?
>
> many thanks,
> peter nelson
>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 27 05:41:04 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:41:04 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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I updated a few files for clm instruments, it looks like find-if is  
used in generators.scm, which piano loads. not sure where to get it,  
ill poke around


On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Markus Eichhoff wrote:

> Hello!
>
> This morning I updated cm and installed everything again. After I  
> opened grace.exe, these messages appeared between the showed lines  
> "Grace 3.3.0 (c) 2009 Todd Ingalls, Rick Taube" and "JUCE v1.46 (c)  
> 2009 Julian Storer":
>
> ;find-if: unbound variable, line 295
> ;find-if: unbound variable, line 11
>
>
>
>
> Markus Eichhoff schrieb:
>>
>> No problem! :-) I am only happy if my computer is not crazy. So  
>> it's ok
>> if you work there.
>> But I even deleted the old cm folder and downloaded again via svn  
>> co ...
>> but then compiling didn't work (in windows + linux).
>> Ok, otherwise I will wait some time (one week or so). It's no  
>> problem.
>>
>>
>> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>>
>>> due to the (ongoing) Fomus work, svn tip may be a bit unstable over
>>> the next week while we attempt to finish and test
>>> if you do an 'svn update' (rev 1734) then everything should  
>>> compile on
>>> windows.
>>> apologies!
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:53 AM, eichhoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In Windows AND in Linux it's now not possible to compile the
>>>> programs. I downloaded now the trunk version of cm, the stable
>>>> juce-zip-Version, sndlib from CCRMA and premake 3.7 and made
>>>> everything regarding to the readme-file in /cm.
>>>> In Linux the last "make" doesn't work (after premake), two  
>>>> misstakes
>>>> are shown. As attachment I put the code that I received in linux.
>>>> Perhaps you see where the problem is.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Markus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heinrich Taube schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> its impossible to resolve problems if you change environments.
>>>>> please do not use svn juce or an external lib, use the stable
>>>>> amalgamated juce sources i ship. cm/readme.text has exact
>>>>> instruction for how to build on linix and macos
>>>>> i will have more time tomorrow to look for conflicting symbols,  
>>>>> and
>>>>> to make sure cm has the latest piano.scm
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:16 AM, eichhoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange, strange... where is the problem in piano.scm? I  
>>>>>> installed all
>>>>>> packages (cm, sndlib, juce (recent trunk)) on linux again this
>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>> I started grace and the program crashed after I executed (the  
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> completely disappeared from the Desktop, no error message). So  
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> not just a windows problem... Here is the crash-code again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software# cd cm
>>>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake -verbose --target gnu
>>>> --sndlib ../sndlib
>>>> Generating GNU makefiles:
>>>> ...juce
>>>> ...cm
>>>> ...grace
>>>> ...gracecl
>>>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# premake --verbose --target gnu
>>>> --sndlib ../sndlib
>>>> Generating GNU makefiles:
>>>> ...juce
>>>> ...cm
>>>> ...grace
>>>> ...gracecl
>>>> root at eichhoff-desktop:~/Software/cm# make
>>>> ==== Building juce ====
>>>> mkdir -p obj/juce/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "LINUX" -I "src" -I "/usr/include/freetype2"  -O2 -o
>>>> "obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o" -c "src/juce_amalgamated.cpp"
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static const
>>>> juce::File juce::File::getCurrentWorkingDirectory()?:
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243538: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von  
>>>> ?char*
>>>> getcwd(char*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut warn_unused_result
>>>> deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In member function ?void
>>>> juce::NamedPipe::cancelPendingReads()?:
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:243745: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von
>>>> ?ssize_t write(int, const void*, size_t)?, der mit dem Attribut
>>>> warn_unused_result deklariert wurde, wird ignoriert
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp: In static member function ?static void
>>>> juce::Logger::outputDebugString(const juce::String&)?:
>>>> src/juce_amalgamated.cpp:244380: Warnung: Format ist kein
>>>> Zeichenkettenliteral, und keine Formatargumente
>>>> mkdir -p bin
>>>> mkdir -p .
>>>> mkdir -p ./obj/juce
>>>> ar -rcs ./obj/juce/libjuce.a obj/juce/Release/juce_amalgamated.o
>>>> ==== Building cm ====
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o" -c "src/Scanner.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o" -c "src/Syntax.cpp"
>>>> src/Syntax.cpp: In member function ?virtual void
>>>> LispSyntax::eval(juce::String, bool, bool)?:
>>>> src/Syntax.cpp:327: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> src/Syntax.cpp:333: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/CmSupport.o" -c "src/CmSupport.cpp"
>>>> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?void cm_shell(char*)?:
>>>> src/CmSupport.cpp:69: Warnung: Der R?ckgabewert von ?int  
>>>> system(const
>>>> char*)?, der mit dem Attribut warn_unused_result deklariert wurde,
>>>> wird ignoriert
>>>> src/CmSupport.cpp: In function ?char*  
>>>> cm_pathname_directory(char*)?:
>>>> src/CmSupport.cpp:607: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Console.o" -c "src/Console.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Scheme.o" -c "src/Scheme.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o" -c "src/Preferences.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o" -c "src/SchemeSources.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Midi.o" -c "src/Midi.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Csound.o" -c "src/Csound.cpp"
>>>> src/Csound.cpp: In member function ?void Csound::runApplication()?:
>>>> src/Csound.cpp:130: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Main.o" -c "src/Main.cpp"
>>>> In file included from src/Main.cpp:16:
>>>> src/CommonLisp.h:37: Warnung: ?typedef? wurde in dieser Deklaration
>>>> ignoriert
>>>> src/Main.cpp: In function ?int main(int, const char**)?:
>>>> src/Main.cpp:265: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/SndLib.o" -c "src/SndLib.cpp"
>>>> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?void
>>>> SchemeNode::applyMidiInputHookNode()?:
>>>> src/SndLib.cpp:147: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> src/SndLib.cpp: In member function ?int SndLib::performCommand(int,
>>>> int, juce::String)?:
>>>> src/SndLib.cpp:193: Warnung: veraltete Konvertierung von
>>>> Zeichenkettenkonstante in ?char*?
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o" -c "src/SndLibBridge.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p obj/cm/Release
>>>> g++  -MMD -D "SNDLIB=1" -D "LINUX=1" -I "src" -I "../sndlib/"  - 
>>>> O2 -o
>>>> "obj/cm/Release/Instruments.o" -c "src/Instruments.cpp"
>>>> mkdir -p bin
>>>> mkdir -p .
>>>> mkdir -p bin
>>>> g++ -o bin/cm obj/cm/Release/Scanner.o obj/cm/Release/Syntax.o
>>>> obj/cm/Release/CmSupport.o obj/cm/Release/Console.o
>>>> obj/cm/Release/Scheme.o obj/cm/Release/Preferences.o
>>>> obj/cm/Release/SchemeSources.o obj/cm/Release/Midi.o
>>>> obj/cm/Release/Csound.o obj/cm/Release/Main.o obj/cm/Release/ 
>>>> SndLib.o
>>>> obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o obj/cm/Release/Instruments.o  -Lbin  
>>>> -L.
>>>> -s -L/usr/lib -lm -L/usr/lib -lgsl -lgslcblas -lm -lasound -lm
>>>> -L"obj/juce" -L"../sndlib/" -L"/usr/X11R6/lib/" -L./obj/juce -ljuce
>>>> -lsndlib -lpthread -lrt -lX11 -lGL -lGLU -lXinerama -lasound - 
>>>> lfreetype
>>>> obj/cm/Release/SndLibBridge.o: In function
>>>> `ffi_fms_isfiletype(s7_scheme*, s7_cell*)':
>>>> SndLibBridge.cpp:(.text+0x7e37): undefined reference to
>>>> `fms_isfiletype(char const*)'
>>>> collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zur?ck
>>>> make[1]: *** [bin/cm] Fehler 1
>>>> make: *** [cm] Fehler 2
>>>>
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>>
>>
>
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>
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> Technical University of Dortmund
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 27 06:52:30 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:52:30 -0700
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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> it looks like find-if is  used in generators.scm

and it's defined there -- perhaps you have an old version of generators.scm?

I'm thinking of predefining a bunch of these CL-isms -- it's a bother
to have to worry about something as basic as find-if.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 27 07:11:08 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:11:08 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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that must be what happend ill copy over the current generators.scm  
from snd-10 -- are there any other ins i should copy?

On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

>> it looks like find-if is  used in generators.scm
>
> and it's defined there -- perhaps you have an old version of  
> generators.scm?
>
> I'm thinking of predefining a bunch of these CL-isms -- it's a bother
> to have to worry about something as basic as find-if.
>
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 27 07:17:33 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:17:33 -0700
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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Should I include all the non-Snd-specific instrument files in the sndlib tarball?
It seems unfortunate that you have to track two different packages.




From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 27 07:27:30 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:27:30 -0500
Subject: [CM] ;piano.scm crashes in Linux, too
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it would be great if there were an  ins.tar.gz  distro on ccrma-ftp  
with all the instruments for snd/sndlib! currently i cut them out of  
snd-10 files  becauae for teaching its a lot easier if to have one- 
file per  insrument  except in the obvious collective cases like birds  
and animals.

On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> Should I include all the non-Snd-specific instrument files in the  
> sndlib tarball?
> It seems unfortunate that you have to track two different packages.
>
>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jul 27 19:18:02 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:18:02 -0500
Subject: [CM] generators.scm
Message-ID: <35B94923-B133-4A49-A5B9-3E5DDA742526@uiuc.edu>

svn has the latest  generators.scm from snd-10 so hopefully the piano  
will work again.

new stuff: new plotter dialogs  Edit Points, Shift Points and Rescale  
Points operate on the current point selection. edit points brings up a  
dialog where you can change the value of any field; shift and rescale  
dialogs operate on the field values displayed on the horizontal or  
vertical dimensions.  the dialogs are minimalist - no buttons, just  
edit the fields and when you press Return in any field the dialog does  
its action.  the rescale points dialog uses cm's rescale function, so  
you can even invert (by making the minimum greater than the maximum).



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 28 03:44:48 2009
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:44:48 -0700
Subject: [CM] sndlib additions
Message-ID: <20090728104206.M48721@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I added all the non-Snd-specific instrument files to the sndlib tarball:
  analog-filter.scm|rb, animals.scm, bird.scm|rb|fsm, clm.fs, clm-ins.scm|rb|fs, 
  dlocsig.scm|rb, fade.scm, freeverb.scm|rb, generators.scm, grani.scm, jcrev.scm, jcvoi.scm,
  maraca.scm|rb, maxf.scm|rb, moog.scm, noise.scm|rb, piano.scm|rb, prc95.scm|rb,
  pvoc.scm|rb, singer.scm|rb, sndwarp.scm, spectr.scm|rb|fs, stochastic.scm, 
  strad.scm|rb, v.scm|rb.  

New files: expandn.scm, fullmix.scm, and nrev.scm from clm-ins.scm.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul 31 08:04:21 2009
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Heinrich Taube)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:04:21 -0500
Subject: [CM] plot hooks
Message-ID: <3D1139D4-4F42-40D2-BE92-2D0574802C8F@uiuc.edu>

svn trunk now has support for 'plot hooks' --  scheme functions you  
associate with a plot window. if a hook is registered it is called  
when you do control-option-mouseclick in the window. it should return  
a list of point(s) to add to the plot given that mouse postion or ()  
if nothing should be added. see the cool fm example in the  
Examples>Plotting  file. documentation in res/doc/cm.html#plotting