From andersvi at extern.uio.no  Wed Mar  1 02:41:01 2006
From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi at extern.uio.no)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:41:01 +0100
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu> (Kjetil
 S. Matheussen's message of "Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:34:08 -0800 (PST)")
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
	<1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no>

>>> "K" == Kjetil S Matheussen <kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> writes:
K> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 21:01 -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:

K> This sounds very theoretical to me... Have you ever
K> disconnected the the output of snd (or other programs using
K> sndlib) from the soundcard?

I find im doing this all the time, feeding SNDs output into
analysis/processing/plugin apps or whatever.

>> An option for that would be great...
K> Okey, is MUS_JACK_DONT_AUTOCONNECT an okey name for an
K> enviornment variable for this?

Fine.

If sound could also read MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_INPUTS and
MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_OUTPUTS and use a list of something along the
lines of

$MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_INPUTS:

  '("alsa_pcm:capture_1" "alsa_pcm:capture_2")

$MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_OUTPUTS:

  '("alsa_pcm:playback_1" "alsa_pcm:playback_2"
    "alsa_pcm:playback_3" "alsa_pcm:playback_4"
    "alsa_pcm:playback_5" "alsa_pcm:playback_6"
    "alsa_pcm:playback_7" "alsa_pcm:playback_8"
    "alsa_pcm:playback_9" "alsa_pcm:playback_10")

- its getting flexible.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar  1 03:22:08 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 03:22:08 -0800
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu> <1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu> <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no>
Message-ID: <20060301110738.M36065@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I'd recommend MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT -- shorter, simpler to understand,
and the default can still be true, if you want.

Is this something that has to happen before the extension language is
initialized? 

(sndlib's current notion of scanning the hardware at initialization to see
what's available may not make sense in ALSA/JACK -- ALSA basically
lies saying "yes, we got tomatoes", and the latest version segfaults
if you ask for anything specific about the "default" capture device -- 
gad, this thing is a pain.)



From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar  1 11:55:06 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:55:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
 <1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu>
 <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603011145040.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 andersvi at extern.uio.no wrote:

>>>> "K" == Kjetil S Matheussen <kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> writes:
> K> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 21:01 -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>
> K> This sounds very theoretical to me... Have you ever
> K> disconnected the the output of snd (or other programs using
> K> sndlib) from the soundcard?
>
> I find im doing this all the time, feeding SNDs output into
> analysis/processing/plugin apps or whatever.
>

Well, actually, I do that too sometimes. But I wonder, isn't
it more work to: 1. Set an environment variable, 2. start snd,
and 3. connect snd's output to another program in qjackctl, than:
1. start snd, 2. Disconnect snd from physical output in qjackctl and 3. 
Connect snd's output to another program in qjackctl.

I'm pretty sure the current behaviour is the most efficient one
of those two. Perhaps there are other ways?



>>> An option for that would be great...
> K> Okey, is MUS_JACK_DONT_AUTOCONNECT an okey name for an
> K> enviornment variable for this?
>
> Fine.
>
> If sound could also read MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_INPUTS and
> MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_OUTPUTS and use a list of something along the
> lines of
>
> $MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_INPUTS:
>
>  '("alsa_pcm:capture_1" "alsa_pcm:capture_2")
>
> $MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_OUTPUTS:
>
>  '("alsa_pcm:playback_1" "alsa_pcm:playback_2"
>    "alsa_pcm:playback_3" "alsa_pcm:playback_4"
>    "alsa_pcm:playback_5" "alsa_pcm:playback_6"
>    "alsa_pcm:playback_7" "alsa_pcm:playback_8"
>    "alsa_pcm:playback_9" "alsa_pcm:playback_10")
>
> - its getting flexible.
>

Trouble is that the jack code connects before doing scheme things. I guess
it can be changed not to do that, if giving some option, but it won't be 
very easy.

Having environment variables, on the other hand, is extremely trivial
to implement:

MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_INPUTS=alsa_pcm_capture*
MUS_JACK_DEFAULT_OUTPUTS=alsa_pcm_playback*

...since the jack port finder function accepts regexp strings.




From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar  1 12:50:27 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:50:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <20060301110738.M36065@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
 <1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu>
 <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no> <20060301110738.M36065@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603011246250.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> I'd recommend MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT -- shorter, simpler to understand,
> and the default can still be true, if you want.
>

Yes, setting "MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT=no/yes/specific_portnames" looks very 
nice.


> Is this something that has to happen before the extension language is
> initialized?
>

Yeah, it happen in mus_audio_initialize. However, it could happen the 
first time mus_audio_open_output or mus_audio_open_input is called
instead, I guess.


> (sndlib's current notion of scanning the hardware at initialization to see
> what's available may not make sense in ALSA/JACK -- ALSA basically
> lies saying "yes, we got tomatoes", and the latest version segfaults
> if you ask for anything specific about the "default" capture device --
> gad, this thing is a pain.)
>
>



From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar  1 13:42:11 2006
From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:42:11 -0800
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603011246250.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
	 <1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>
	 <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu>
	 <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no> <20060301110738.M36065@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
	 <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603011246250.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <1141249331.27144.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:50 -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
> 
> > I'd recommend MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT -- shorter, simpler to understand,
> > and the default can still be true, if you want.
> >
> 
> Yes, setting "MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT=no/yes/specific_portnames" looks very 
> nice.

"specific_portnames" would mean don't connect as well?
-- Fernando




From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar  1 14:52:45 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] No Auto Connect
In-Reply-To: <1141249331.27144.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602272056340.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu> 
 <1141144324.18139.8.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>  <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602282030000.13005@ttleush.stanford.edu>
  <m3k6beh2gy.fsf@notam.uio.no> <20060301110738.M36065@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> 
 <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603011246250.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>
 <1141249331.27144.21.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0603011451180.19098@cmn9.stanford.edu>

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:50 -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>>
>>> I'd recommend MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT -- shorter, simpler to understand,
>>> and the default can still be true, if you want.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, setting "MUS_JACK_AUTOCONNECT=no/yes/specific_portnames" looks very
>> nice.
>
> "specific_portnames" would mean don't connect as well?

Actually, I thought about name of ports to connect to by default. I guess
that should solve the problem for people that are mad enough to connect 
active louspeakers directly to their computer and using a jackmixer to 
controle the main volume.



From sgsofia at myuw.net  Thu Mar  2 15:57:04 2006
From: sgsofia at myuw.net (sal g sofia)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:57:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] snd (Recording).
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603021532270.17002@cicero11.myuw.net>

Hello all,

I am on a Mac OS X 10.4.5. I am using snd to record (my voice) with a 
microphone and the resulting audio file is very high in frequency.
My preferences are: Chans 1, srate 44100, header type aiff,
data format int and also tried with float. Any help?

Thank you.

Best regards,

-Sal



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Mar  2 17:02:14 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:02:14 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd (Recording).
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603021532270.17002@cicero11.myuw.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603021532270.17002@cicero11.myuw.net>
Message-ID: <20060303005635.M76633@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

> I am on a Mac OS X 10.4.5. I am using snd to record (my voice) with a 
> microphone and the resulting audio file is very high in frequency. 

I am all smiles -- I had never tried the recorder on a Mac -- I'm amazed
it comes up at all.  I'll try to find a microphone and poke at it tomorrow.
The VU meters appear to be moving!  This is a miracle.
Maybe there's a built-in mic?  They've got this built-in camera, which
I really don't want.  I always look hung-over.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar  3 11:32:21 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:32:21 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd (Recording).
Message-ID: <20060303192858.M35775@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I can't get anything to go wrong, except that it insists on writing a stereo
file.  Was the playback within Snd at the wrong pitch?  You can find out
what the choices are via mus-audio-describe.



From sgsofia at myuw.net  Sat Mar  4 20:43:23 2006
From: sgsofia at myuw.net (sal g sofia)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:43:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] snd (Recording).
In-Reply-To: <20060303192858.M35775@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060303192858.M35775@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603042027470.28327@cicero11.myuw.net>

Bill thank you for your help,

Well, snd record does work if I use the Built-in Audio (as the Default 
Input)under the System Settings in the "Audio MIDI Setup" (in the 
Utilities folder),with the Default Output as Built-in Audio, all, is
fine...even if the Default Output is my MOTU 2408(mkII) PCI-324. And,
if I use the PCI-324 card as the Default Input and the Default Output
is Built-in Audio (all of it) will work fine, but snd will not work with
the PCI-324(in) and PCI-324(out).

The preferences in snd are fine; there is nothing as far as srate that 
indicates record at 22050 Hz,.snd also records and outputs a mono file;). 
Well, I think that there is something inside the program that when snd
works with the PCI-324(in) and PCI-324(out) it records in the low sr
(11025)  and outputs to (44100) sr and I sound like a munchkin.

Maybe someone has my same hardware and could tell me if they have had this 
kind of problem before. Well, I am happy that I can record with snd, but 
would be nice to work with the PCI-324 in and out.


Thank you.
Best regards.
-Sal

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> I can't get anything to go wrong, except that it insists on writing a stereo
> file.  Was the playback within Snd at the wrong pitch?  You can find out
> what the choices are via mus-audio-describe.
>
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From fstafek at noise.cz  Fri Mar 10 00:33:34 2006
From: fstafek at noise.cz (eFko)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:33:34 +0100
Subject: [CM] Common Music / Midishare / CLISP / Windows
Message-ID: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz>

Hello,
     I'd like to ask, whether it is possible to use Common Music in
     current version with Midishare on Windows with CLISP...?

     I'd like to write simple MIDI mapping map for real/time use, like
     mapping incoming MIDI CC messages to SYSEX messages, keyboard
     splits and other simple things like this. Maybe later expand on
     something more difficult. Do you thing it can be done with CM /
     Midishare / CLISP / Windows?

     I don't want to switch to LINUX, because, I'm using good editor
     for my Yamaha SY-77 on windows / emagic sounddiver, not available
     on Linux...

     Thanks for any hint.
  

-- 
Frantisek Stafek




From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 10 04:17:28 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:17:28 -0600
Subject: [CM] Common Music / Midishare / CLISP / Windows
In-Reply-To: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz>
References: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz>
Message-ID: <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu>

should work, although I only test on windows rarely. dont try doing 
until you are sure you have midishare working without cm .  If CM 
doesnt build let me know and ill fix it.


On Mar 10, 2006, at 2:33 AM, eFko wrote:

> Hello,
>      I'd like to ask, whether it is possible to use Common Music in
>      current version with Midishare on Windows with CLISP...?
>
>      I'd like to write simple MIDI mapping map for real/time use, like
>      mapping incoming MIDI CC messages to SYSEX messages, keyboard
>      splits and other simple things like this. Maybe later expand on
>      something more difficult. Do you thing it can be done with CM /
>      Midishare / CLISP / Windows?
>
>      I don't want to switch to LINUX, because, I'm using good editor
>      for my Yamaha SY-77 on windows / emagic sounddiver, not available
>      on Linux...
>
>      Thanks for any hint.
>
>
> -- 
> Frantisek Stafek
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Fri Mar 10 05:16:22 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:16:22 -0500
Subject: [CM] CM CVS update ?
In-Reply-To: <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu>
References: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz> <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <44117C26.5080305@woh.rr.com>

Hi Rick:

  Just wondering, how stable is current CVS ?

Best,

dp



From fstafek at noise.cz  Fri Mar 10 04:53:12 2006
From: fstafek at noise.cz (eFko)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:53:12 +0100
Subject: [CM] Common Music / Midishare / CLISP / Windows
In-Reply-To: <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu>
References: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz>
 <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <1444089068.20060310135312@noise.cz>

RT> should work, although I only test on windows rarely. dont try doing
RT> until you are sure you have midishare working without cm .  If CM 
RT> doesnt build let me know and ill fix it.

I've got midishare working so it shouldn't be problem on this part.
Do you think that using CLISP on windows with CM is viable solution
for realtime simple MIDI mapping, given the fact CLISP doesn't have
threads? Or maybe it's not related, I'm just guessing...

I was considering also the Q language with its Q-midi module, but frankly I
can speak better Common lisp than learning something completely new...

Thanks, Frantisek Stafek.


RT> On Mar 10, 2006, at 2:33 AM, eFko wrote:

>> Hello,
>>      I'd like to ask, whether it is possible to use Common Music in
>>      current version with Midishare on Windows with CLISP...?
>>
>>      I'd like to write simple MIDI mapping map for real/time use, like
>>      mapping incoming MIDI CC messages to SYSEX messages, keyboard
>>      splits and other simple things like this. Maybe later expand on
>>      something more difficult. Do you thing it can be done with CM /
>>      Midishare / CLISP / Windows?
>>
>>      I don't want to switch to LINUX, because, I'm using good editor
>>      for my Yamaha SY-77 on windows / emagic sounddiver, not available
>>      on Linux...
>>
>>      Thanks for any hint.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Frantisek Stafek
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist

RT> _______________________________________________
RT> Cmdist mailing list
RT> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
RT> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



-- 
eFko
fstafek at noise.cz



From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar 10 12:21:13 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:21:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] Re: Common Music / Midishare / CLISP / Windows
In-Reply-To: <20060310200002.5957.24444.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
References: <20060310200002.5957.24444.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603101219220.1139@ttleush.stanford.edu>

eFko:
>     I'd like to ask, whether it is possible to use Common Music in
>     current version with Midishare on Windows with CLISP...?
>
>     I'd like to write simple MIDI mapping map for real/time use, like
>     mapping incoming MIDI CC messages to SYSEX messages, keyboard
>     splits and other simple things like this. Maybe later expand on
>     something more difficult. Do you thing it can be done with CM /
>     Midishare / CLISP / Windows?
>
>     I don't want to switch to LINUX, because, I'm using good editor
>     for my Yamaha SY-77 on windows / emagic sounddiver, not available
>     on Linux...
>

Have you tried using the editor with wine? (www.winehq.org)
Many windows programs works perfectly under wine.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 10 13:33:23 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:33:23 -0600
Subject: [CM] Common Music / Midishare / CLISP / Windows
In-Reply-To: <1444089068.20060310135312@noise.cz>
References: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz> <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu> <1444089068.20060310135312@noise.cz>
Message-ID: <fb77d2931f6380f2a206098c9b8e945a@uiuc.edu>

> I've got midishare working so it shouldn't be problem on this part.
> Do you think that using CLISP on windows with CM is viable solution
> for realtime simple MIDI mapping, given the fact CLISP doesn't have
> threads? Or maybe it's not related, I'm just guessing...

it depends on what you mean by real-time. If you mean to be able to 
open a direct connection to midishare from CM and send it MIDI messages 
from the REPL, then yes you can do this no problem.  If you mean you 
want to compose musical algorithms and then run them in real-time, then 
NO, because CLisp doesnt support threads. But working with Midishare 
interactively in the REPL should work:


? (use-system :midishare)
; loading system definition from /Lisp/midishare/midishare.asd into 
#<Package "ASDF4152">
#<SYSTEM "midishare" #x856EB96>

? (defparameter mp (midishare-open))
MP
? (ms:now)
2098
? (ms:now)
4826
? (ms:output (ms:new typeNote :dur 1 :pitch 60 :date (ms:now)) :to mp)



From s_boussuge at yahoo.fr  Fri Mar 10 13:52:31 2006
From: s_boussuge at yahoo.fr (stephane boussuge)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:52:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [CM] loading cmn with cmucl need help
Message-ID: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi
i've just change my lisp from clisp to cmucl 19c.
for loading cmmon music, no problems but i 'can't load
cmn , i've always an error. like that:

; Loading #P"/home/stf/bin/cmn/cmn-all.lisp".
; Compiling "/home/stf/bin/cmn/sgicmn.c"
ld: ne peut trouver -lX11
;;; Running /usr/bin/ld...
Invoking debugger...
Warning:  Motif server died.
Status = :EXITED, exit code = 127.

A Toolkit error has occurred.
Could not start Motif server process.
Status = :EXITED, exit code = 127.
   [Condition of type
TOOLKIT-INTERNALS::SIMPLE-TOOLKIT-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [CONTINUE] Return NIL from load of
"/home/stf/bin/cmn/cmn-all.lisp".
  1: [ABORT   ] Return to Top-Level.

Debug  (type H for help)

(LOAD-FOREIGN "/home/stf/bin/cmn/sgicmn.so" :LIBRARIES
("-lc") :BASE-FILE ...)
Source: Error finding source:
Error in function DEBUG::GET-FILE-TOP-LEVEL-FORM: 
Source file no longer exists:
  target:code/foreign.lisp.
0] library:motifd: error while loading shared
libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory
abort
*         

could you help me please.
thank you very much.
s.boussuge
                                      


	

	
		
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar 10 14:14:57 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:14:57 -0800
Subject: [CM] loading cmn with cmucl need help
In-Reply-To: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060310221120.M35074@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I think you don't have libXm.so.2 (Motif), so the xcmnw program can't
be built; to get around this, remove the current x86f or fasl files
(or whatever extension cmucl uses), then before loading cmn-all.lisp

(pushnew :only-lisp *features*)

(or you could just put that at the start of cmn-all.lisp) -- this bypasses
all the foreign function stuff (none of which actually matters anymore --
the bulk of that stuff was to work around problems with format in
lisps from ca 1990).



From rm at seid-online.de  Fri Mar 10 14:46:47 2006
From: rm at seid-online.de (R. Mattes)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:46:47 +0100
Subject: [CM] loading cmn with cmucl need help
In-Reply-To: <20060310221120.M35074@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	 <20060310221120.M35074@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <1142030809.20563.13.camel@hobbes.mh-freiburg.de>

On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:14 -0800, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
> I think you don't have libXm.so.2 (Motif), so the xcmnw program can't
> be built; to get around this, remove the current x86f or fasl files
> (or whatever extension cmucl uses), then before loading cmn-all.lisp

Well, my french is more than rusty, but doesn't:

 ld: ne peut trouver -lX11

mean that libX11 can't be found by the linker? 


> (pushnew :only-lisp *features*)
> 
> (or you could just put that at the start of cmn-all.lisp) -- this bypasses
> all the foreign function stuff (none of which actually matters anymore --
> the bulk of that stuff was to work around problems with format in
> lisps from ca 1990).

But it also stops cmn's x-display code to work, or?

 Cheers, Ralf Mattes

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From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 10 15:05:21 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:05:21 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM CVS update ?
In-Reply-To: <44117C26.5080305@woh.rr.com>
References: <1569434671.20060310093334@noise.cz> <6a40342b1ae7e176d80cc96ba467c658@uiuc.edu> <44117C26.5080305@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <7d4991fbc11cfcca06e67f5fd4355ccb@uiuc.edu>

dave - It actually shoudld be quite stable except if you want to use 
rts on linux. right now  rts has been moved to a seperate module (do 
'cvs checkout rts' ). im not sure what the final resting place of the 
sources will be, and thats another reason why i havnt said anything to 
this point or updated the install.html page.
the new rts implementation has improved timing and reponsiveness 
(priorty) redesigned by michael klingbeil and todd ingalls added 
support for using pthread primitives directly from clib.
it seems to be working well in openmcl but i cant get it to work in 
sbcl/linux and thats the main reason i havent released a stable cm. i 
might be able to try to get sbcl rts working again over spring break, 
in 2 weeks.  if not, then i guess ill just put sbcl/rts the way it was 
in december.

outside of rts, the rest of cm should be very stable and im teaching 
with it without any problems.  if you update your cvs tree be sure to 
delete the binary dirs under cm/bin before rebuilding.

> Hi Rick:
>
>  Just wondering, how stable is current CVS ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Mar 11 04:01:36 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:01:36 -0800
Subject: [CM] loading cmn with cmucl need help
In-Reply-To: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060310215231.31118.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060311115739.M26605@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I was looking at the FFI stuff in CMN -- I think most of it is now obsolete.
For example, does MCL still use quickdraw?   Can ghostscript replace
xcmnw?   The "format" replacements only affect ACL and MCL; I'll
run some timing tests on ACL.  (There's even support here for Lispworks --
what was that?)
  



From dgeers at gmail.com  Sat Mar 11 13:56:47 2006
From: dgeers at gmail.com (Doug Geers)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:56:47 -0600
Subject: [CM] Example files?
Message-ID: <838326d50603111356i1dbb6f2sc7939c1bd892b662@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

Hi.  I've been lurking for awhile but have only recently begun
exploring CM.  I'd love to see some example code beyond those on the
website, especially functions that export to Csound, CMN,
Supercollider, Music XML, and similar--Basically, anything beyond MIDI
files.  Also especially interesting would be further examples of
algorithmic generation using Markov chains, neural nets, genetic
algorithms, etc, and interfaces to OpenMusic and/or Audiosculpt.

If you have examples I could see, please let me know.  I'd greatly
appreciate the help.

Best wishes,

Doug Geers



From anthonykozar at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar 12 11:13:52 2006
From: anthonykozar at sbcglobal.net (Anthony Kozar)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:13:52 -0500
Subject: [CM] Example files?
In-Reply-To: <838326d50603111356i1dbb6f2sc7939c1bd892b662@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C039DD1F.14B6F%anthonykozar@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Doug, 

I have some code that you could download that attempts (rather
unsuccessfully) to use neural networks to compose new chant-like melodies in
the style of those it is trained with.  It is mostly pure Common Lisp but
there is a CM function for translating note lists to Midi.  (Would be easy
to output something else like Csound though).
You can obtain the code and a paper that I wrote explaining it here:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/akozar at sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/NNChanter

or try just http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/akozar at sbcglobal.net/ and go to
the NNChanter folder if the first link does not work for you.

Even though it does not work well, it might be an interesting stepping off
point.  I also have some experimental code that builds on the NNChanter
project and uses markov chains instead of neural networks.  I think that
this gives better results for what I was trying to accomplish.

In addition, I have code for several Csound projects using CM to
algorithmically generate scores.  Most of this code is my private
compositional material and is not online to download as yet, but I would be
happy to share it directly with you if you understand that it represents my
"works in progress" and therefore comes with little or no documentation.

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


Doug Geers wrote on 3/11/06 4:56 PM:

> Hi.  I've been lurking for awhile but have only recently begun
> exploring CM.  I'd love to see some example code beyond those on the
> website, especially functions that export to Csound, CMN,
> Supercollider, Music XML, and similar--Basically, anything beyond MIDI
> files.  Also especially interesting would be further examples of
> algorithmic generation using Markov chains, neural nets, genetic
> algorithms, etc, and interfaces to OpenMusic and/or Audiosculpt.



From dgeers at gmail.com  Thu Mar 16 16:10:49 2006
From: dgeers at gmail.com (Doug Geers)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:10:49 -0500
Subject: [CM] Parsing MIDI files with CM
Message-ID: <838326d50603161610w6a87589cuf18755a838033bd7@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I'm sorry if this is another newbie question, but I'm looking for help
parsing existing MIDI files into a format that is easier for CM to
handle, such as lists of (pitch velocity), or, even better, (pitch
velocity duration) for all notes per channel.

I think that the MIDI-stream object can do this, but it isn't clear to
me how to implement it.  Does anyone have tips or an example I could
see?

Thanks much,

Doug



From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Thu Mar 16 23:49:53 2006
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:49:53 +0100
Subject: [CM] Parsing MIDI files with CM
In-Reply-To: <838326d50603161610w6a87589cuf18755a838033bd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <838326d50603161610w6a87589cuf18755a838033bd7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060317074953.GA5596@grisey>

Am 16. M?rz 2006, 19:10 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Doug Geers:
> I'm sorry if this is another newbie question, but I'm looking for help
> parsing existing MIDI files into a format that is easier for CM to
> handle, such as lists of (pitch velocity), or, even better, (pitch
> velocity duration) for all notes per channel.

It used to be possible with map-subobjects, using the :type keyword,
but this function seems to have disappeared although still somewhat
documented in the dictionary.

Try this instead:

(let ((result nil)
      (file "/tmp/test.midi"))
      (map-objects 
       #'(lambda (x) 
	   (when (eq 'MIDI (object-name x))
	     (push (list (sv x time) 
	     	   	 (sv x keynum) 
	     		 (sv x amplitude) 
	     		 (sv x duration)) nums)))
       (import-events file))
       (nreverse result))

You can adopt to your needs if you want to filter channels, remap etc...

--
Orm



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 17 03:55:43 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 05:55:43 -0600
Subject: [CM] Parsing MIDI files with CM
In-Reply-To: <20060317074953.GA5596@grisey>
References: <838326d50603161610w6a87589cuf18755a838033bd7@mail.gmail.com> <20060317074953.GA5596@grisey>
Message-ID: <e621b8d20e23f7fbcf9446dd065c2287@uiuc.edu>

> It used to be possible with map-subobjects, using the :type keyword,
> but this function seems to have disappeared although still somewhat
> documented in the dictionary.

hi -- it got renamed map-objects because it can also map lists of 
objects as well as containers. It has a :class keyword if you want to 
only map a certain typ of objects. There is a fold-objects function 
that you can use to return lists (and other things) from mapping.

given

	(defparameter s1 (import-events "/Lisp/cm/etc/tutorials/source.mid" ))

then to return all the keynum slot values of just MIDI objects in s1:

	(fold-objects (lambda (x l) (cons x l)) s1 '() :slot 'keynum :class 
'midi)

	=> (77 77 77 89 75 86 74 92 87 80 ...)

to collect lists of things, you map the objects rather than a slot and 
return what you want:

	(fold-objects (lambda (x l) (cons (list (sv x :time) (sv x :keynum)) 
l)) s1 '() :class 'midi)

	=> ((18.0 77) (17.875 77) (17.75 77) (17.75 89) (17.625 75) (17.625 
86) ...)


for more information see:

http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/etc/tutorials/editing.lisp

and

http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/doc/dict/fold-objects-fn.html



From azervopoulos at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 09:32:38 2006
From: azervopoulos at gmail.com (Thanassis Zervopoulos)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:32:38 +0200
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
Message-ID: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com>

I've tried (portmidi-record) to record midi messages
but when I've tried to play a vals song, all went wrong...missing notes
I'd like to ask if portmidi or midishare support polyphony and how can I
enable it?

Thanx in advance
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Mar 20 12:32:09 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:32:09 -0600
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu>

hi -- it is not clear to me what you mean by "polyphony". If you can  
describe more precisely what you are trying to accomplish i might be  
able to help.


On Mar 20, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Thanassis Zervopoulos wrote:

> I've tried (portmidi-record) to record midi messages
> but when I've tried to play a vals song, all went wrong...missing  
> notes
> I'd like to ask if portmidi or midishare support polyphony and how  
> can I enable it?
>
> Thanx in advance



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Mar 21 04:26:28 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:26:28 -0600
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com> <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f151f48e19c8134ff8e69bbfde80b5eb@uiuc.edu>

thanassis -- both portmidi and midishare support playing many events 
simultaneously , or more technically, um ta ta   um ta ta  with lots of 
other notes at the same time. it does not matter if you use one "track" 
or many. so the problems you are experiencing must be of a different 
sort.

> left and right hand and make two seq_track,one for the left hand and 
> one for the right hand, but in the same time we call 
> (portmidi-record)...
> for example
> (if keynum < 64) which is the middle C make a left hand seq and name 
> it <seq_track0> and for keynum > 64 make a right hand seq, 
> <seq_track1> while (portmidi-record) recieve midi messages from the 
> midi keyboard.

yes this is ceratinly possible, do something like

(defparameter righthand (new seq))

(defparameter lefthand (new seq))

(defun record-hands (mm ms)
    (let ((ev (midi-message->midi-event mm :time ms)))
      (if (< (sv ev :keynum) 64)
          (append-object ev lefthand)
          (append-object ev righthand))))

(defparameter mp (portmidi-open :input ?))

(set-receiver! #'record-hands mp)

;; play um-ta-ta um-ta-ta with melody

(remove-receiver! mp)



From TimBlechmann at gmx.net  Tue Mar 21 14:17:03 2006
From: TimBlechmann at gmx.net (Tim Blechmann)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:17:03 +0100
Subject: [CM] Snd 7.19
In-Reply-To: <20060227135407.M30993@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060227135407.M30993@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <1142979424.11138.44.camel@localhost>

hi bill,

i just figured out, that snd-7.19 fails to compile when configured with
--with-motif and --with-gtk ... i guess this doesn't really make sense,
but i was trapped by my gentoo USE flags ...
maybe it's possible to catch that in the configure script?

cheers ... tim 

--
TimBlechmann at gmx.de    ICQ: 96771783
http://www.mokabar.tk

Desperation is the raw material of drastic change. Only those who can
leave behind everything they have ever believed in can hope to escape.
  William S. Burroughs
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From set at pobox.com  Tue Mar 21 18:23:55 2006
From: set at pobox.com (Paul)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:23:55 -0500
Subject: [CM] Re: Snd 7.19
In-Reply-To: <1142979424.11138.44.camel@localhost>
References: <20060227135407.M30993@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <1142979424.11138.44.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060322022355.GB7448@squish.home.loc>

Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann at gmx.net>, on Tue Mar 21, 2006 [11:17:03 PM] said:
> hi bill,
> 
> i just figured out, that snd-7.19 fails to compile when configured with
> --with-motif and --with-gtk ... i guess this doesn't really make sense,
> but i was trapped by my gentoo USE flags ...
> maybe it's possible to catch that in the configure script?
> 
> cheers ... tim 

	Hi;

	I would consider that a bug in the ebuild. It should pick
one or the other. If you havent already, you might file a bug at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/

Paul
set at pobox.com

> 
> --
> TimBlechmann at gmx.de    ICQ: 96771783
> http://www.mokabar.tk



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Mar 22 03:24:16 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:24:16 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 7.19
In-Reply-To: <1142979424.11138.44.camel@localhost>
References: <20060227135407.M30993@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <1142979424.11138.44.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060322112317.M94472@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I added a check for this case, and a couple others like it, to the
configure script.  If you ask for both now, you'll get Motif.




From joshp at u.washington.edu  Thu Mar 23 14:34:57 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:34:57 -0800
Subject: [CM] [OT] Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media Concert, April 12th, Seattle, WA
Message-ID: <608441D3-376E-484F-9964-52FC33B77DAD@u.washington.edu>

For immediate release:

The Center for Digital Arts ad Experimental Media at the University  
of Washington presents an evening of experimental video and music at  
Meany Hall on April 12th, 2006 at 7:30 pm.

The works on the concert are the result the Center for Digital Arts  
and Experimental Media's first international call for works. The call  
received more than100 works from the North America, Europe, Asia and  
Australia. Selected for the program are:

Cross Contours ? Dennis Miller
aufschlag (service) - Ralf Hoyer
Graveshift - Per Bloland
Sleepdriver - Martin Stig Andersen
Flow - Mike Vernusky
Burning Thoughts - Pei-Yu Shi and Nina Vogel
Stadtmusik - Dietmar Offenhuber, Sam Auinger and Hannes Strobl
SYZYGY ? William ?Pete? Moss
and a new work by Noel Paul

For more information, contact Joshua Parmenter at  
joshp at u.washington.edu.

_______________________
Cross Contours (2005) explores a variety of nearly identifiable icons  
and images and develops numerous associations among them. Though  
never crossing the line into the purely representational, it attempts  
to stimulate references and mappings in the viewer. The work is  
(loosely) in three sections, with each retaining the same color space  
despite the appearance of new or transformed objects and forms. The  
music adds an affective layer and helps control the work's dramatic  
development.

All images in Cross Contours were created using the Cinema 4D  
animation software, while the musical elements were created with the  
Kyma System from Symbolic Sound and the Tassman physical modeling  
synthesizer.

Dennis Miller is on the Music faculty of Northeastern University in  
Boston where he heads the Music Technology program and serves on the  
Multimedia Studies Steering Committee.  His mixed media works have  
been presented at numerous venues throughout the world, most recently  
the DeCordova Museum, the New York Digital Salon Traveling Exhibit,  
the 2005 Art in Motion screenings, Images du Nouveau Monde,  
CynetArts, Sonic Circuits, the Cuban International Festival of Music,  
and the 2004 New England Film and Video Festival. His work was also  
presented at the gala opening of the new Disney Hall in Los Angeles  
(2003) and at SIGGRAPH 2001 in the Emerging Technologies gallery.  
Recent exhibits of his 3D still images include the Boston Computer  
Museum and the Biannual Conference on Art and Technology, as well as  
publication in Sonic Graphics: Seeing Sound (Rizzoli Books) and Art  
in the Digital Age (Thames and Hudson). A DVD containing seven of  
Miller's recent animations is available from his web site,  
www.dennismiller.neu.edu.

_______________________
aufschlag (service) - three channel noise and video composition / 2002

Every noise is made by a move.

Musical instruments, developed from the early beginning of human race  
for making very special noises, require very special motions for  
getting the desired results. The training of these motions has quite  
a sporting aspect.

Doing sports has an other purpose. The noises which come into being  
inevitable may be unimportant for the athlete -  but from a musical  
point of view they are very interesting: there are formal  
periodicities, fine pitch nuances, rhythmical patterns...

Noises of playing table tennis, gotten from the audio track of some  
table tennis videos, constitute the basis of this noise and video  
composition.

Besides, a classical grand piano is involved also.

(The video material is used by courtesy of the German Table Tennis  
Association)

Ralf Hoyer born 1950 in Berlin, studied sound-engineering at the  
Higer School of Music ?Hanns Eisler? Berlin and has been working as  
sound-engineer and recording director for several years. He completed  
his studies in composition1977-80 in the masterclass of the Academy  
of Arts with Ruth Zechlin and Georg Katzer. Compositions for chamber  
music, choir, orchestra, chamber opera and electronic music.  
Development and realization of music-theatralic performances, multi- 
media-projects and sound-installations, frequently together with  
Susanne Stelzenbach. Composition awards 1983 and 1985, scholarships  
in 1990, 1992 and 2002. Commissions from international festivals,  
theatres and broadcasting companies, performances in several european  
countries.

_______________________
Burning Thoughts for video and 4 channel tape

Burning Thoughts presents itself as a union of time and location. The  
seemingly clear reality of the images shifts increasingly into a  
network of subjective relations with the person, location and music,  
whose perception is constantly formulated anew.

Pei-Yu Shi (1973*) was born in Taipei. She studied Chinese music from  
1988 to 1995, Composition from 1995 to 1998 in Taipei (Taiwan). She  
stuedied composition from 1999-2004 unter Wolfgang Rihm, Sandeep  
Bhagwati and Thomas A. Troge at the Music University of Karlsruhe.  
1995-1997 she accepted the scholarship of the Ministry of Education  
in Taiwan. 1996, 1998, 2004 she won the ?Literature and Art Award of  
the Ministry of Education? composition competition in Taiwan.  
2001-2002 she accepted the scholarship of the Landes Baden- 
W?rttemberg. 2002 the German broadcasting station ?Sued-West  
Rundfunk? made a ?Composer?s Portrait? for her and had been shown on  
TV. 2005 she accept the scholarship of the Heinrich-Strobel-Stiftung  
des Suedwestrundfunks E.V. and won the 3rd percussion music composing  
competition in Taiwan and won the 1 preis of 15 rd ISA International  
Summer Akademy, Austria. 2004-2006 she invite to be guest artist and  
accept the scholarship of ZKM, Karlsruhe.

_______________________
Are Ua sleepdriver by any chance???

Composed at City University Electroacoustic Music Studios, London,  
and the composer?s personal studio in Denmark 2004. Commissioned by  
the Foundation Ton Bruyn?l, the Netherlands.

Martin Stig Andersen (Denmark, 1973) graduated from The Royal Academy  
of Music in Aarhus, Denmark in 2003. He is currently a PhD student in  
electroacoustic composition at City University, London, studying with  
Denis Smalley. Martin Stig Andersen has received commissions from  
various ensembles and organizations and his music has been performed  
in numerous international festivals including The San Francisco Tape  
Music Festival, Sonorities, ICMC, SAN EXPO, Santa Fe Electro Acoustic  
Music Festival, NWEAMO, The International Gaudeamus Music Week. He  
has obtained distinctions in the ElektraMusic Award - listener?s  
prize (France), Prix Ton Bruyn?l (the Netherlands), the "Luigi  
Russolo" Competition (Italy), the Bourges competition (France), and  
the Danish Arts Foundation?s Competition. Martin Stig Andersen?s  
research is funded by the Danish Research Agency, the Royal Danish  
Academy of Music, and the Danish Ministry of Culture. In 2005 he  
received a 3-year working scholarship from the Danish Arts Foundation.

_______________________
Graveshift - Through a rain-streaked caf? window, surveillance of a  
street scene is digitally transformed into a fluid chaos comprised of  
paranoia, ghostly figures, and alterations of reality.  Echoes of a  
forgotten song float above the milieu, now gaining and now loosing  
coherence.  It is an image plagued by distortion, but this distortion  
emerges from quietness, and recedes once again into the same.

Graveshift was conceived as a cross-discipline collaboration  
including video, music, and dance.

Per Bloland is active as a composer of both acoustic and  
electroacoustic music. Recent awards include first prize in the  
SEAMUS/ASCAP Student Commission Competition, and grand prize in the  
Digital Art Awards, Tokyo, Japan. His music has been performed in  
numerous countries, and can be heard on the TauKay (Italy), Capstone,  
and SEAMUS labels. He received a Masters degree from the University  
of Texas at Austin, and is currently working toward his Doctoral  
degree at Stanford University.

_______________________
FLOW is one half of a four-part sequence on the theme of water. The  
following is a note from the video artist: ?Meditating upon the  
seasonal flow of water, our earth's lifeblood: a visceral response to  
the rush of springtime, when all of the world reawakens and blooms  
and vibrates with sexual energy; and of summertime, when the  
environment slowly settles into a rhythm of growth and maturity.? The  
music was constructed predominantly from tam-tam cymbals and  
classical guitar. These sounds were manipulated using granular  
processing to evoke a constantly evolving, yet fixed texture. The  
video was
made with 16mm and 35mm painted filmstrips that were digitally  
manipulated. Live footage is also presented as a contrast to these  
images.

Mike Vernusky holds degrees from the University of Texas at Austin  
and Mercyhurst College. He is currently serving as Director of  
Digital Arts for the Audio Inversions New Music Group, and recently  
released a full length cd of his electronic and acoustic works. He  
was also the Grand Prize winner of the 2004 Digital Arts Awards in  
Tokyo, Japan. More information/music can be found at www.alasseis.com


_______________________
Stadtmusik/Citymusic - Dietmar Offenhuber - Hannes Strobl & Sam Auinger

Architecture forms all sounds we hear. Urban architecture is a sound  
box, it shapes a space, wherein the range of sounds which surround us  
is resounded and reflected. In the video "Stadtmusik", the Linz-based  
media artist Dietmar Offenhuber and the Berlin formation TamTam (Sam  
Auinger / Hannes Strobl) deal with sound in cities, by analysing  
sound structures which are triggered by urban buildings and  
facilities. They focus on the aspect of movement in the city, which  
reinforces a dynamic experience of the urban soundscape: particular  
sounds emerge through movement, sound and its timbre evolves from  
material and space.
The film- and media theorist Vr??th ?hner focuses on the relation of  
movement and perception. Dietmar Offenhuber analyses this relation by  
using urban contexts as example: "Perceiving perception: Through  
media, this is simultaneously possible and impossible. The important  
thing about moving images is what is moving rather than what is  
causing the movement. But the fact sometimes tends to be forgotten  
that the animated image could not exist without the viewer's  
illusionary assumption that he or she is not seeing individual frames  
but continuous motion. As a result, it should not surprise when film  
or videographic experiments are at their core reflections on forms of  
perception conveyed through various media, their purpose to make  
accessible the circumstances under which sensuous experience takes  
place, which are dictated by the media.
This all applies to the videos of Dietmar Offenhuber, though the  
problem is made more complex by the reference to perception which  
itself requires the use of technical apparatus. It?s subject is not  
"natural" perception, but perception put in motion and therefore  
implicitly the history of an epochal transformation of the way in  
which time and space is experienced. It has come to a preliminary end  
in suitable contexts where moving perception now seems to be regarded  
as integral to natural perception. The thesis presented in this  
regard would therefore be that the specifically aesthetic quality of  
such animated perception is absent from the forms of audiovisual  
representation which are already considered natural (such as  
indicating movement by means of a tracking shot): In its  
fragmentation of the continuum of perception, the "subjective  
geometry which defines space through intervals of time" (Dietmar  
Offenhuber) illustrates a manner of experience which could remain  
submerged because it is already so familiar."

Hannes Strobl
born 1966, lives in berlin
bassplayer and composer
developed a new musical language on the bass.
numerous concerts all around europe and the usa.
works for radio, dance, theater, film and soundinstallation
collaborations with sam auinger (tamtam), hanno leichtmann (paloma) ,
didmar offenhuber,richard dorfmeister,isabella bordoni, hans  
platzgummer, toshi nakamura,
rupert huber, bruce odland,chris kondek ,saynko namtchylak and others

Sam Auinger, composer, performer,sound artist was born in Linz,  
Austria in 1956.
Education:
Linz Bruckner - Konservatorium, Jazz Division.
Mozarteum-Salzburg, Komposition und Computer Musik.
Since the early 80?s Auinger has been a leading innovator in the  
fields of composition, computermusic, sounddedsign and  
psychoacoustics.  His abilities in the dual role of conceptualist and  
composer have allowed him to make important contributions in film,  
theater, radio, video, exhibitions, internet performance, art and  
music festivals across Europe and USA and as a musical producer for  
the noted Austrian band, ?Attwenger?.
Artistic Collaborations: Future Lab, Dietmar Offenhuber, Chris  
Kondek, Attwenger, Laurie Anderson, Ben Neil, Maggie Donlon, Naut  
Humon, Rachel de Boer, Markus Binder, Paul Miller, Hanno Leichtmann,  
Richard Dorfmeister, Michael Nyman, Robert Adrian X, Wolfgang  
Mitterer, Florian Flicker, Scanner, Tatashi  Endo ,Thomas Krupa.
1982-1989: Together with Werner Pfeffer he founded SWAP, a concetpual  
and performing duo who?s, Musik in 1000 Information was premiered at  
the 1986 Ars Electronica.
In 1989 he began an ongoing collaboration with Bruce Odland (O+A).    
Together they have realized many large scale sound pieces in Europe  
and US:  ?Garden of Time-Dreaming? turned the gardens of the Castle  
of Linz into a large scale sound cosmology (1990) , ?Traffic Mantra?  
transformed the harmonics of public space in the archeological center  
of Rome at Trajan?s Forum(1991) ?StadTraum? created a sonic hologram  
as a citywide spectacle in  Salzburg(1992), ?Cloud Chamber? used the  
city of New York as an oscillating audio and video input for live  
performance at the Kitchen (1997), ?Harmonic Bridge? created a  
resonating gateway to the new museum, MASS MoCA, (1998-present), ?Box  
30/70? toured an audio camera obscura through 9 European Cities  
(2001-2).  Their ongoing work is the development of a ?Hearing  
Perspective? , a philosophy rooted in sonic observation of culture.   
They have collected an archive of archetypal sound images  
representing this philosophy which they call ?Alphabet of Sounds.   
They have thus far released 4 CD?s : ?Garden of Time-Dreaming?,  
?Resonance?, ?Vault Grooves?, and ?Box 30/70?.
In 1997 Auinger received a DAAD scholarship for composition along  
with fellow Austrian, Rupert Huber.  That year they founded the media  
band ?Berliner Theorie? which became famous for its live house music  
concerts on the internet.
In 1999 he started  ?tamtam? with the extraordinairy bass player and  
composer Hannes Strobl.  Their latest work, a video about L.A.  
transportation patterns with the architect Dietmar Offenhuber called  
?besenbahn2? was nominated for the German Media Award 2003/ZKM
Over the years Sam Auinger has received numerous prizes and awards  
for his work.  Most recently he became the youngest artist to receive  
the Kultur Preis der Stadt Linz (2002) to honor his body of work.  He  
was a jury member for the Prix Ars Electronic, and lectures at  
festivals, universities and symposiums.   Since 1997 He has made  
Berlin the center of his activities.

Dietmar Offenhuber was in born 1973, graduated with a degree in  
Architecture and has been working since 1994 in animation,  
interactive environments and digital architecture. Between 2002 and  
2004 Dietmar worked as key researcher of the Interactive Space  
department at the Ars Electronica Futurelab. Since fall 2004 he is  
professor for animation and interactive media at the University of  
Applied Sciences in Hagenberg/ Austria. Dietmar collaborates with Sam  
Auinger and Hannes Strobl under the name ?stadtmusik? on various  
projects dealing with architectural and sonic spaces.

_______________________
SYZYGY ? William ?Pete? Moss became interested in music in high  
school, when it became obvious that he would never become an  
astronaut. For several years, he worked on computers and composed  
music at different times, until that fateful day when he realized  
that computers could be used for music. Since then, he hasn't looked  
back. Pete has won a few awards for his music, and has had it played  
in several parts of the world, including the USA. He received a BM  
from Texas Christian University where he studied with Blaise  
Ferrandino and Gerry Gabel. He then went to the University of Texas  
at Austin, where he studied with Russell Pinkston and earned his MM.  
Now he is working towards his DMA at the University of Washington  
with Richard Karpen and Juan Pampin. Pete's hobbies include  
motorcycling and video games, but not video games about motorcycling.

_______________________
Noel Paul (b. 1978) is a graduate student and teaching assistant in  
DXARTS. He studied computer music with Richard Karpen and Juan Pampin  
as an undergraduate at the University of Washington. His works have  
been played nationally and internationally, and he has been awarded  
prizes by the Luigi Russolo Foundation and ASCAP/SEAMUS. He is  
currently studying Czech with Jaroslava Soldanova, and experimental  
cinema with Shawn Brixey, with research focused on developing novel  
digital image-gathering technology.


******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/




From jannett at sympatico.ca  Thu Mar 23 18:57:27 2006
From: jannett at sympatico.ca (James Annett)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:57:27 -0500
Subject: [CM] CM.app/OSX (10.4.5): Beginner question
Message-ID: <37943DB6-43BB-4253-A13F-99648E23B8E6@sympatico.ca>

Hello,

I've just recently downloaded this and am trying to get oriented to  
it. I have some experience with Csound and SC but this is all pretty  
new to me.

I'm trying to follow this tutorials here: http:// 
commonmusic.sourceforge.net/etc/tutorials/index.html

I get errors when I try to evaluate almost every expression.

I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my setup.

Anyway help would be appreciated.

Cheers,
James




(list-objects #&pulse :end 10)

 > Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS  
called with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :END 10) .
 > While executing: CCL::DEFAULT-UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL-RESTARTS

(list-objects #&pulse :start 10 :end 20 :step 2)

Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS called  
with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :START 10 :END 20 :STEP 2) .
 > While executing: "Unknown"

(list-objects #&pulse :at '(0 45 70))

Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS called  
with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :AT (0 45 70)) .
 > While executing: "Unknown"

(subobjects #&pulse :at '(0 45 70))

Error in process listener(4): Too many arguments in function call: 3  
provided, at most 1 accepted.
 > While executing: SUBOBJECTS

(events (sinus 80 4 20 100 .1 .1 .6) "intro.mid" :versioning true)

Error in process listener(4): Not initializations for MIDI-FILE- 
STREAM: (:VERSIONING T).
 > While executing: #<STANDARD-METHOD INIT-IO (STRING)>

*midi-player*

Error in process listener(4): Unbound variable: *MIDI-PLAYER*
 > While executing: "Unknown"



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Mar 23 19:14:03 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:14:03 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM.app/OSX (10.4.5): Beginner question
In-Reply-To: <37943DB6-43BB-4253-A13F-99648E23B8E6@sympatico.ca>
References: <37943DB6-43BB-4253-A13F-99648E23B8E6@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <28f0e4ccfa548f3ab95d0f4a14352af0@uiuc.edu>

yes, you need to use the cvs version of CM (2.7.0). actually i am in 
the process of releasing the cvs sources as stable (it will then be 
tagged as 2.8.0) and  there should be a new CM.app available from 
sourceforge in a few days. sorry for the troubles.

if you dont want to wait for the app, instruction for installing from 
cvs are here:
	http://commonmusic.sf.net/doc/install.html#cvs


On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:57 PM, James Annett wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've just recently downloaded this and am trying to get oriented to 
> it. I have some experience with Csound and SC but this is all pretty 
> new to me.
>
> I'm trying to follow this tutorials here: 
> http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/etc/tutorials/index.html
>
> I get errors when I try to evaluate almost every expression.
>
> I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my setup.
>
> Anyway help would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> James
>
>
>
>
> (list-objects #&pulse :end 10)
>
> > Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS called 
> with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :END 10) .
> > While executing: CCL::DEFAULT-UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL-RESTARTS
>
> (list-objects #&pulse :start 10 :end 20 :step 2)
>
> Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS called 
> with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :START 10 :END 20 :STEP 2) .
> > While executing: "Unknown"
>
> (list-objects #&pulse :at '(0 45 70))
>
> Error in process listener(4): Undefined function LIST-OBJECTS called 
> with arguments (#<seq "pulse"> :AT (0 45 70)) .
> > While executing: "Unknown"
>
> (subobjects #&pulse :at '(0 45 70))
>
> Error in process listener(4): Too many arguments in function call: 3 
> provided, at most 1 accepted.
> > While executing: SUBOBJECTS
>
> (events (sinus 80 4 20 100 .1 .1 .6) "intro.mid" :versioning true)
>
> Error in process listener(4): Not initializations for 
> MIDI-FILE-STREAM: (:VERSIONING T).
> > While executing: #<STANDARD-METHOD INIT-IO (STRING)>
>
> *midi-player*
>
> Error in process listener(4): Unbound variable: *MIDI-PLAYER*
> > While executing: "Unknown"
>
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> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From c.mcclelland at qub.ac.uk  Fri Mar 24 03:26:56 2006
From: c.mcclelland at qub.ac.uk (Christopher McClelland)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:26:56 +0000
Subject: [CM] [ANN] Lectureship in Music and Sonic Arts @ SARC
References: <0C2FDADE-2E48-4104-9901-987158E902B5@qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <8B663672-4291-42D4-9F10-0E5C36FBBE56@qub.ac.uk>

Apologies for cross-posting



New Lectureship Post at the School of Music and Sonic Arts, Queen's  
University Belfast
Closing Date : 4:00pm, 13 April 2006



JOB TITLE:   Lecturer in Music & Sonic Arts

SCHOOL/DEPT:   School of Music & Sonic Arts

GRADE: A/B for lecturer post

JOB PURPOSE: To produce high quality practice-based and theoretical  
research in the area of contemporary music. The candidate is expected  
to have a strong track record in practice-based research in the  
creative arts and is expected to undertake teaching in the area of  
research at the School of Music and Sonic Arts. Relevant fields of  
expertise include, but are not restricted to, performance practice in  
21 st Century music, improvised music, contemporary Jazz,  
composition. Candidates are expected to be active practitioners and  
have a track record in research that demonstrates the dynamic  
relationship between scholarship and practice.

MAJOR DUTIES:

1. To produce high quality practice-based and theoretical research in  
the area of research expertise.

2. To undertake teaching in the area of research expertise and in  
other areas as directed by the Head of School.

3. To supervise research students as directed by the Head of School.

4. To undertake administrative duties as directed by the Head of School.

5. To enhance performance activities within the School.

6. To undertake any other reasonable duties within the general ambit  
of the post and the competence of the postholder.




The School of Music and Sonic Arts at Queen?s University, Belfast, is  
one of the largest groups of its kind in the United Kingdom and  
Ireland. Based on the expertise of seventeen fulltime academics  
within the School and its associated research facility, the Sonic  
Arts Research Centre (SARC), research and postgraduate teaching is a  
major driving force.



For informal queries about the post please contact:
Chris Corrigan
c.corrigan at qub.ac.uk
Tel. +44 (0)28 90974830



For application materials please see
http://www.qub.ac.uk/jobs/?vac_no=K526&function=view_job








___________

Christopher McClelland
Research Assistant / PhD Candidate
Queens University of Belfast
Belfast BT7 1NN
c.mcclelland at qub.ac.uk



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From azervopoulos at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 05:33:12 2006
From: azervopoulos at gmail.com (Thanassis Zervopoulos)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:33:12 +0200
Subject: [CM] Problem while recording from midi keyboard
Message-ID: <f8c1048a0603240533v79a2eaa6l1146740742389028@mail.gmail.com>

problems appear when
I play a looping chord with the left hand like 'la do mi.....la do
mi......etc' and with the right hand I hold a note
It seems that midi-message receive a midi-note-on from right hand and
doesn't let left hand to pass midi massages to midi event.....any
suggestions?

I'm sorry for sending the same e-mail, but there was no response on the
previous one and I don't know if this recording-problem is general problem
or
happens only to me...

Also I've tried your example below,but it gives an error message:
I only have common music dictionary, so I couldn't find
the function midi-message->midi-event....where can I find a complete
tutorial for cm

Thanx in advance and I appreciate your help very much

             Error in function "DEFMETHOD SLOT-MISSING (T T T T)":
              When attempting to read the slot's value (slot-value), the
slot KEYNUM is
               missing from the object #i(midi-note-off time 2819657 channel
0 keynum 43
                 velocity 127).
                 [Condition of type SWANK::SLIME-PROTOCOL-ERROR]

            Restarts:
             0: [ABORT] Return to sldb level 1.
             1: [ABORT] Return to Top-Level.

           Error in function "DEFMETHOD SLOT-MISSING (T T T T)":  When
attempting to read the slot's value (slot-value),   the slot KEYNUM is
missing from the object #i(midi-note-on time 4286968 channel 0 keynum 52
velocity 76).
           Error flushed ...
          0]
          Error in function "DEFMETHOD SLOT-MISSING (T T T T)":  When
attempting to read the slot's value (slot-value),   the slot KEYNUM is
missing from the object #i(midi-note-on time 4286976 channel 0 keynum 50
velocity 127).
           Error flushed ...
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar 24 06:46:58 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd and Fedora Core 5
Message-ID: <20060324144329.M75151@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Fedora Core 5 goes out of its way to delete Motif (and mwm, which I like!);
to rebuild motif 2.3, you need to replace the two or three includes of
X11/bitmaps/gray (Xm/I18List.c, Xm/IconButton.c) with:

#define gray_width 16
#define gray_height 16
static char gray_bits[] = {
   0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55, 0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55,
   0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55, 0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55,
   0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55, 0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55,
   0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55, 0xaa, 0xaa, 0x55, 0x55};

Also, the X11-related configuration process has changed so that my configure
script is confused -- until I figure this out, change the MOTIF_LIBS line
in makefile to use the static Xm library and add -lXft -lpng -ljpeg -lXmu:

MOTIF_LIBS =   -lSM -lICE /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a -lXt -lXp -lX11  -lXext -lXpm -lXft -lpng -ljpeg -
lXmu

(FC5 has changed the X11 layout and expects you to use the pkgconfig stuff,
I think -- I don't see any errors in config.log, so I have some digging to do.)



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar 24 07:55:18 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:55:18 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd and Fedora Core 5
In-Reply-To: <20060324144329.M75151@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060324144329.M75151@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20060324155310.M16743@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Argh -- motif was moved to /usr/lib and mwm to /usr/bin -- I was 
confused earlier because slocate has changed to mlocate.  Why is
an OS upgrade always so stressful?



From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Mar 25 14:21:47 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:21:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] [ANN] Snd-ls V0.9.5.5, Das_Watchdog V0.2.2 and Ceres V0.44
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602271357360.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602271357360.1506@ttleush.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603251412050.1135@ttleush.stanford.edu>


*****************************************************************************
1.

Snd-ls v0.9.5.5
===============

Contains
--------
Snd v7.15 from 17.8.2005

About
-----
Snd-ls is a distribution of the sound editor Snd. Its target is
people that don't know scheme very well, and don't want
to spend too much time configuring Snd. It can also serve
as a quick introduction to Snd and how it can be set up.

Changes 0.9.5.4 -> 0.9.5.5
--------------------------
-Reenabled code in the configure script to check for liblrdf. Thanks to
  Andres Cabrera for pointing this out.
-Simplifed the ladspa stuff. It now works with guile 1.8, use a lot less
  time to start, and more than one instance of the same ladspa plugin can
  be run at once.
-Removed check code for guile earlier than 1.8. It now works with guile
  1.8.
-Added code to cache compiled object files. This reduces startup time a
  lot.
-Updated rt-stuff to latest version.
-Fixed that pressing any of the control on/off buttons also started
  playing.
-Included GTK mnemonics code from Maxim Krikun.
-Print debug info to stdout when something goes wrong in a hook or timed
  callback.
-Backported Bill's fix for segfaulting when changing filter order when
  playing. Bug found by Tim Blechman.
(-The included diff-file between SND v7.15 vs. SND-ls is now 108000 bytes.
   Probably time to move on to SND v7.20.)


http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kjetil/src/





*****************************************************************************
2.

Ceres V0.44
===========
Ceres is an advanced program for displaying sonograms and for doing sound
effects in the frequency domain. And more.

Changes 0.43 -> 0.44
---------------------
-Fixed some compiling problems for gcc4
-Give warning about the additiv resynthesis. It might not
  produce correct result.
-Disabled built in support for jack. Sndlib does a much
  better job of supporting jack than ceres.
-Included latest version of sndlib. The previous included version
  segfaulted the program at startup. Well, works now.
  Tested with both fedora core 4 and redhat 8.

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kjetil/src/





*****************************************************************************
3.

Das_Watchdog V0.2.2
===================

About
-----
Das_Watchdog is a general watchdog for the linux operating system that
should be runned in the background at all times to ensure a realtime 
process won't hang the machine.

Changes 0.2.1->0.2.2
--------------------
*Locked down memory. Don't know if its necessary.


http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kjetil/src/




From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Mar 25 15:48:32 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:48:32 -0600
Subject: [CM] clm compile errors/osx
Message-ID: <46b2f6a97db865b0913c83d734f8aed5@uiuc.edu>

compiling the latest clm-3 tarball gives a bunch of errors for sc.c, i 
think maybe that file shouldn't be in the makefile for osx?
despite the errors i do get a libclm.dylib, sndplay and v.ins makes its 
normal toot.


galen:/tmp hkt$ cd clm-3/
galen:/tmp/clm-3 hkt$ openmcl
Welcome to OpenMCL Version 1.0 (DarwinPPC32)!
? (load "all.lisp")
;   running cd /private/tmp/clm-3/ && ./configure --quiet 
--with-doubles --with-float-samples
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/io.c"
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/headers.c"
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/audio.c"
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/sound.c"
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/clm.c"
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:9:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:10:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:11:23: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:13: error: parse error before "compare_window"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:13: error: parse error before '*' token
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c: In function `compare_window':
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:15: error: `Atom' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:15: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
reported only once
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:15: error: for each function it appears in.)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:15: error: parse error before "type"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:19: error: `Window' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:19: error: parse error before "found"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:20: error: `display' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:20: error: `window' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:20: error: `id' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:20: error: `False' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:21: error: `XA_STRING' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:21: error: `type' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:22: error: `Success' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:23: error: `None' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:25: error: `found' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c: At top level:
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:31: error: parse error before "find_window"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:31: error: parse error before '*' token
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:31: error: parse error before ')' token
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:36: error: parse error before '*' token
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:36: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: parse error before "window"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: `window' used prior to declaration
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: `compare_func' undeclared here (not 
in a function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: `display' undeclared here (not in a 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: `starting_window' undeclared here 
(not in a function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: error: `id' undeclared here (not in a 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:37: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:38: error: parse error before "if"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:46: error: parse error before "snd_v"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:46: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:47: error: parse error before '*' token
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:47: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:48: error: parse error before "wn"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:48: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c: In function `clm_init_x':
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:65: warning: assignment makes pointer from 
integer without a cast
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:66: error: `CopyFromParent' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:71: error: `XA_STRING' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:71: error: `PropModeReplace' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c: In function `clm_send_snd':
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:78: error: `Window' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:78: error: parse error before "window"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:82: error: `XA_STRING' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:82: error: `PropModeReplace' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c: In function `clm_receive_snd':
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:95: error: `Atom' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:95: error: parse error before "type"
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:99: error: `False' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:100: error: `XA_STRING' undeclared (first use 
in this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:100: error: `type' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:101: error: `Success' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:102: error: `None' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
/private/tmp/clm-3/sc.c:109: error: `PropModeReplace' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
; Compiling "/private/tmp/clm-3/cmus.c"
; Creating "/private/tmp/clm-3/libclm.dylib"
;;gcc  -dynamiclib -o /private/tmp/clm-3/libclm.dylib 
/private/tmp/clm-3/headers.o /private/tmp/clm-3/audio.o 
/private/tmp/clm-3/io.o /private/tmp/clm-3/sound.o 
/private/tmp/clm-3/clm.o /private/tmp/clm-3/cmus.o  -lm -lc -framework 
CoreAudio
; Building sndplay program: "/private/tmp/clm-3/sndplay"
;Compiler warnings for "/private/tmp/clm-3/ffi.lisp" :
;   Unused lexical variable DEV, in SL-DAC-1.
;   Unused lexical variable NAME, in SL-DAC-1.
;Compiler warnings for "/private/tmp/clm-3/sound.lisp" :
;   Unused lexical variable CALLS, in SOUND-LET.
;Compiler warnings for "/private/tmp/clm-3/env.lisp" :
;   Unused lexical variable XX, in ENVELOPE-REPEAT.
;Compiler warnings for "/private/tmp/clm-3/clm-snd.lisp" :
;   Unused lexical variable ARGS, in <SEND-SND>.
;   Unused lexical variable FSTR, in <SEND-SND>.
;   Unused lexical variable RESULT, in <SEND-SND>.
#P"/private/tmp/clm-3/all.lisp"
?



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Mar 25 16:04:01 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:04:01 -0800
Subject: [CM] clm compile errors/osx
In-Reply-To: <46b2f6a97db865b0913c83d734f8aed5@uiuc.edu>
References: <46b2f6a97db865b0913c83d734f8aed5@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20060326000215.M78121@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I think sc.c should work in OSX/openmcl; the problem appears to be that the
configure script didn't set up the -I switch so that C could find the X headers;
on my mac they're in /usr/X11R6/include/X11; I'll poke at it tomorrow.




From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Mar 27 08:27:14 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:27:14 -0600
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com> <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com> <f151f48e19c8134ff8e69bbfde80b5eb@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0557E4C6-58B3-4AAE-9144-C1E193674CD3@uiuc.edu>

Thanassis  im sorry, i have had almost no time the last few days. ill  
try to send a working example in a day or so.

--rick

On Mar 26, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Thanassis Zervopoulos wrote:

> Hi,
>   I'm sorry if I ensist but I am quite a newbie, so besides the  
> tutorial and common music dictionary this forum its the only
> help I've got....
> I can't figure out how can I make this example work and I've tried  
> also the example below without the if-condition
> and the result was a seq of midi-note-on and midi-note-off  
> events....how can I genarate a seq with midi events,
> because I've tried to hear the seq with midi-note-on ,midi-note-off  
> events and produced only one note (I think the first one)
> Actually I don't know how to hear what did I play with set- 
> receiver......with (portmidi-record! seq) its much esayier
> I'm really sorry for ensisting so much
>
> On 3/21/06, Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> thanassis -- both portmidi and midishare support playing many events
> simultaneously , or more technically, um ta ta   um ta ta  with  
> lots of
> other notes at the same time. it does not matter if you use one  
> "track"
> or many. so the problems you are experiencing must be of a different
> sort.
>
> > left and right hand and make two seq_track,one for the left hand and
> > one for the right hand, but in the same time we call
> > (portmidi-record)...
> > for example
> > (if keynum < 64) which is the middle C make a left hand seq and name
> > it <seq_track0> and for keynum > 64 make a right hand seq,
> > <seq_track1> while (portmidi-record) recieve midi messages from the
> > midi keyboard.
>
> yes this is ceratinly possible, do something like
>
> (defparameter righthand (new seq))
>
> (defparameter lefthand (new seq))
>
> (defun record-hands (mm ms)
>     (let ((ev (midi-message->midi-event mm :time ms)))
>       (if (< (sv ev :keynum) 64)
>           (append-object ev lefthand)
>           (append-object ev righthand))))
>
> (defparameter mp (portmidi-open :input ?))
>
> (set-receiver! #'record-hands mp)
>
> ;; play um-ta-ta um-ta-ta with melody
>
> (remove-receiver! mp)
>
>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Mar 27 09:02:05 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:02:05 -0600
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com> <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com> <f151f48e19c8134ff8e69bbfde80b5eb@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3309F212-D5F0-4F1A-B152-B5AFF4C735E7@uiuc.edu>

THis works perfectly fine for me (OSX).  Note that im using the  
latest cvs sources and  RTS is now a module so you should download  
from the files page. (ill have more to say about this in a day or so)
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9766


;;;-----------------------------------
(in-package cm)

(use-system :portmidi)    ; load portmidi
(use-system :rts)         ; load rts

(defparameter mp (portmidi-open :input 0 :output 1))   ; my in/out ports
(defparameter mytune (new seq))  ; seq for recording

(portmidi-record! mytune mp)  ; start recording
;; play your tune...then
(portmidi-record! nil mp) ; stop recording

;; now separate into left and right hands seqs

(defparameter split 60)         ; split point for hands
(defparameter left-hand
   (new seq :subobjects
        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (< k  
split)))))
(defparameter right-hand
   (new seq :subobjects
        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (>= k  
split)))))

;;; check 'em out

(list-objects left-hand)
(list-objects right-hand)

;; put 'em in a midifile

(events (list left-hand right-hand) "test.mid")




From emres at bilgi.edu.tr  Mon Mar 27 09:14:35 2006
From: emres at bilgi.edu.tr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Emre_Sevin=E7?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:14:35 +0300
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <3309F212-D5F0-4F1A-B152-B5AFF4C735E7@uiuc.edu>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com> <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com> <f151f48e19c8134ff8e69bbfde80b5eb@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com> <3309F212-D5F0-4F1A-B152-B5AFF4C735E7@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <44281D7B.4030804@bilgi.edu.tr>


Rick Taube wrote:

> THis works perfectly fine for me (OSX).  Note that im using the  
> latest cvs sources and  RTS is now a module so you should download  
> from the files page. (ill have more to say about this in a day or so) 


Out of curiosity, I'm still following your Notes from the Metalevel and 
using an old version of CM (I think I
have installed it from CVS 5-6 months ago).

If I install the latest version of the CM (from CVS) do I have to modify 
the codes presented in the book?
If so, major changes?

(e.g. the example you have provided below: (use-system :rts) )

>
>     http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9766
>
>
> ;;;-----------------------------------
> (in-package cm)
>
> (use-system :portmidi)    ; load portmidi
> (use-system :rts)         ; load rts
>
> (defparameter mp (portmidi-open :input 0 :output 1))   ; my in/out ports
> (defparameter mytune (new seq))  ; seq for recording
>
> (portmidi-record! mytune mp)  ; start recording
> ;; play your tune...then
> (portmidi-record! nil mp) ; stop recording
>
> ;; now separate into left and right hands seqs
>
> (defparameter split 60)         ; split point for hands
> (defparameter left-hand
>   (new seq :subobjects
>        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (< k  
> split)))))
> (defparameter right-hand
>   (new seq :subobjects
>        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (>= k  
> split)))))
>
> ;;; check 'em out
>
> (list-objects left-hand)
> (list-objects right-hand)
>
> ;; put 'em in a midifile
>
> (events (list left-hand right-hand) "test.mid")
>
>
<http://getfirefox.com/>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Mar 27 11:32:06 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:32:06 -0600
Subject: [CM] Does cm and portmidi support polyphony?
In-Reply-To: <44281D7B.4030804@bilgi.edu.tr>
References: <f8c1048a0603200932v385b339dqdc627a4fc7a06e13@mail.gmail.com> <9244FC91-EF63-43AF-A87E-D334C300BF58@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603210317l48be9068pbffd22b5f6d7cab8@mail.gmail.com> <f151f48e19c8134ff8e69bbfde80b5eb@uiuc.edu> <f8c1048a0603260902r5f302da3i183dd4b74640265f@mail.gmail.com> <3309F212-D5F0-4F1A-B152-B5AFF4C735E7@uiuc.edu> <44281D7B.4030804@bilgi.edu.tr>
Message-ID: <28F61204-EBB9-4594-B360-2BD2993C360B@uiuc.edu>

>
> If I install the latest version of the CM (from CVS) do I have to  
> modify the codes presented in the book?
> If so, major changes?

i think very little has changed that is really incompatible, but of  
course there will be lots of additional functionality like rts, use- 
system and so on.

the one incompatible thing that comes to mind is the renaming of the  
random pattern class to weighting. im sure there are some other  
things but nothing comes to mind right now.

note that in the rts package the function call syntax of rts has  
changed from its earlier definition (it no longer accepts a list of  
initial ojects):

	http://commonmusic.sf.net/doc/dict/rts-fn.html

On Mar 27, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Emre Sevin? wrote:

>
>
> Rick Taube wrote:
>
>> THis works perfectly fine for me (OSX).  Note that im using the   
>> latest cvs sources and  RTS is now a module so you should  
>> download  from the files page. (ill have more to say about this in  
>> a day or so)
>
>
> Out of curiosity, I'm still following your Notes from the Metalevel  
> and using an old version of CM (I think I
> have installed it from CVS 5-6 months ago).
>
> If I install the latest version of the CM (from CVS) do I have to  
> modify the codes presented in the book?
> If so, major changes?
>
> (e.g. the example you have provided below: (use-system :rts) )
>
>>
>>     http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9766
>>
>>
>> ;;;-----------------------------------
>> (in-package cm)
>>
>> (use-system :portmidi)    ; load portmidi
>> (use-system :rts)         ; load rts
>>
>> (defparameter mp (portmidi-open :input 0 :output 1))   ; my in/out  
>> ports
>> (defparameter mytune (new seq))  ; seq for recording
>>
>> (portmidi-record! mytune mp)  ; start recording
>> ;; play your tune...then
>> (portmidi-record! nil mp) ; stop recording
>>
>> ;; now separate into left and right hands seqs
>>
>> (defparameter split 60)         ; split point for hands
>> (defparameter left-hand
>>   (new seq :subobjects
>>        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (< k   
>> split)))))
>> (defparameter right-hand
>>   (new seq :subobjects
>>        (subobjects mytune :slot 'keynum :test (lambda (k) (>= k   
>> split)))))
>>
>> ;;; check 'em out
>>
>> (list-objects left-hand)
>> (list-objects right-hand)
>>
>> ;; put 'em in a midifile
>>
>> (events (list left-hand right-hand) "test.mid")
>>
>>
> <http://getfirefox.com/>
>



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Mar 27 11:30:59 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:30:59 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 8.0 (Forth!)
Message-ID: <20060327192827.M88093@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Snd 8.0

The reason for the new major version: Mike Scholz has provided a complete
  implementation of Forth as an extension language!  It's based on
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/fth.  Use --with-forth with the
  configuration script.
  
  This is in snd-8.tar.gz at the ccrma ftp site -- I'll update all the
  other versions as soon as possible.


Other changes since version 7.19:

many improvements (ladspa.scm etc) thanks to Kjetil.

kmenu.scm and add-main-menu-mnemonics in snd-gtk.scm thanks to Maxim Krikun.

in clm bandedwg.ins thanks to Juan Reyes.

granulate now has a local random number seed (settable via the mus-location method)
  also peak-env.scm is smarter about data formats (both thanks to Kjetil).

main-menu changed in gtk so that added top level menus return the same widget type as
  the built-in ones -- to get the old menu-shell, wrap the main-menu calls with:
  (gtk_menu_item_get_submenu (GTK_MENU_ITEM (main-menu ...)))

show-selection (extensions.scm)

replaced useless "Filter" button in file dialogs with "Mkdir"

added a stop sign to interrupt long computations (equivalent to C-g)

x-axis-as-clock for more informative x-axis tick labels in very large files

heart.scm (use Snd with non-sound data)

added support for more sound file decoders (along the lines of the current mpeg reader): 
  shorten (propietary, read-only), tta (GPL, via ttaenc), wavpack (propietary)

in cmn, removed nxtcmn.c, sgicmn.c, xcmnw.c, cmn-mcl-utils.lisp, cmn-mcl.lisp,
          cmn-excl.lisp, cmn-scroll.lisp.  Removed all FFI, quickdraw, and Braille stuff.
          cmn is now a pure Lisp program that outputs only postscript files.

checked: gtk 2.8.14|15|16, sbcl 0.9.10, Fedora Core 5 (gcc 4.1), netBSD 3.0

with much help from: Mike, Kjetil, Fernando, Maxim Krikun, Juan Reyes, Steve Kuhlmann,
  Tim Blechmann




From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Tue Mar 28 13:19:02 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:19:02 -0500
Subject: [CM] CM question re: CFFI
Message-ID: <4429A846.8050702@woh.rr.com>

Greetings:

  I'm trying to compile the RTS sources but am failing with this error :

;;; Loading #P"/home/dlphilp/cm-systems/rts/pthreads.x86f".

Undefined foreign symbol: "pthread_create"
   [Condition of type KERNEL:SIMPLE-PROGRAM-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [CONTINUE] Return NIL from load of 
#P"/home/dlphilp/cm-systems/rts/pthreads.x86f".
  1: [RETRY   ] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {585AE895}> on
                #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "pthreads" {588EB10D}>.
  2: [ACCEPT  ] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {585AE895}> on
                #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "pthreads" {588EB10D}> as having 
been successful.
  3:            Return NIL from load of #P"home:.cminit.lisp".
  4:            Retry performing
                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::FINALIZE-OP NIL {588248ED}> on
                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::CM-APPLICATION "cm" {586D20FD}>.
  5:            Continue, treating
                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::FINALIZE-OP NIL {588248ED}> on
                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::CM-APPLICATION "cm" {586D20FD}> as 
having been successful.
  6:            Return NIL from load of 
"/home/dlphilp/cm/bin/../src/cm.lisp".
  7: [ABORT   ] Skip remaining initializations.

Debug  (type H for help)

(KERNEL:UNDEFINED-FOREIGN-SYMBOL-ERROR-HANDLER "<error finding name>"
                                               #.(SYSTEM:INT-SAP #x3FFFB9A4)
                                               #<Alien (* #) at #x3FFFB634>
                                               (14))
Source: Error finding source:
Error in function DEBUG::GET-FILE-TOP-LEVEL-FORM:  Source file no longer 
exists:
  target:code/interr.lisp.
0] 7

; Compilation unit aborted.
;   1 fatal error

* (quit)


Is there a recommended version of CFFI ? I can't use the CMIO interface 
yet because it needs the RTS stuff. Is that correct ?

Best,

dp



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Mar 28 14:09:21 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:09:21 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM question re: CFFI
In-Reply-To: <4429A846.8050702@woh.rr.com>
References: <4429A846.8050702@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <40db3d8efb2f326bc6676eb5eb5b83f0@uiuc.edu>

dave -- are you using  sbcl or cmu? rts doesnt work in cmu since cmu 
doesnt doesnt have pthread support.
it hopefully works in sbcl modulo the problems with portmidi 
interaction (see the rts topic help about that)

>
> Is there a recommended version of CFFI ? I can't use the CMIO 
> interface yet because it needs the RTS stuff. Is that correct ?

cmio shouldnt need rts -- but maybe there is a problem with dependancy 
in that code now that ive made rts a seperate system.


On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Greetings:
>
>  I'm trying to compile the RTS sources but am failing with this error :
>
> ;;; Loading #P"/home/dlphilp/cm-systems/rts/pthreads.x86f".
>
> Undefined foreign symbol: "pthread_create"
>   [Condition of type KERNEL:SIMPLE-PROGRAM-ERROR]
>
> Restarts:
>  0: [CONTINUE] Return NIL from load of 
> #P"/home/dlphilp/cm-systems/rts/pthreads.x86f".
>  1: [RETRY   ] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {585AE895}> on
>                #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "pthreads" {588EB10D}>.
>  2: [ACCEPT  ] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {585AE895}> on
>                #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "pthreads" {588EB10D}> as having 
> been successful.
>  3:            Return NIL from load of #P"home:.cminit.lisp".
>  4:            Retry performing
>                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::FINALIZE-OP NIL {588248ED}> on
>                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::CM-APPLICATION "cm" {586D20FD}>.
>  5:            Continue, treating
>                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::FINALIZE-OP NIL {588248ED}> on
>                #<COMMON-LISP-USER::CM-APPLICATION "cm" {586D20FD}> as 
> having been successful.
>  6:            Return NIL from load of 
> "/home/dlphilp/cm/bin/../src/cm.lisp".
>  7: [ABORT   ] Skip remaining initializations.
>
> Debug  (type H for help)
>
> (KERNEL:UNDEFINED-FOREIGN-SYMBOL-ERROR-HANDLER "<error finding name>"
>                                               #.(SYSTEM:INT-SAP 
> #x3FFFB9A4)
>                                               #<Alien (* #) at 
> #x3FFFB634>
>                                               (14))
> Source: Error finding source:
> Error in function DEBUG::GET-FILE-TOP-LEVEL-FORM:  Source file no 
> longer exists:
>  target:code/interr.lisp.
> 0] 7
>
> ; Compilation unit aborted.
> ;   1 fatal error
>
> * (quit)
>
>
> Is there a recommended version of CFFI ? I can't use the CMIO 
> interface yet because it needs the RTS stuff. Is that correct ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Mar 28 14:18:54 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:18:54 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM question re: CFFI
In-Reply-To: <4429A846.8050702@woh.rr.com>
References: <4429A846.8050702@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <a9bcc18dae609294910c360d1b4ac156@uiuc.edu>

soory i didnt see this part:

> Is there a recommended version of CFFI ? I can't use the CMIO 
> interface yet because it needs the RTS stuff. Is that correct ?

i tested on osx using the latest cffi tarball as of two days ago:
http://common-lisp.net/project/cffi/tarballs/cffi-060316.tar.gz

remember that when you switch cffi versino you have to delete fasls in 
any system that uses cffi otherwise weird things may happen



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Wed Mar 29 05:14:59 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:14:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
Message-ID: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com>

Greetings:

  Here's what's happening with SBCL and the latest CM from CVS :

* (cmio)

(<unknown>:14055): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_convert_with_fallback: assertion 
`str != NULL' failed

debugger invoked on a SB-KERNEL::MEMORY-FAULT-ERROR in thread
#<THREAD "initial thread" {A8A22D9}>:
  memory fault

Type HELP for debugger help, or (SB-EXT:QUIT) to exit from SBCL.

restarts (invokable by number or by possibly-abbreviated name):
  0: [ABORT] Exit debugger, returning to top level.

(SB-KERNEL::MEMORY-FAULT-ERROR)
0] 0

* (quit)


  This is happening with Demudi's kernel 2.6.14. and SBCL 1:0.9.9 
(Debian's numbering). Any suggestions ?

Best,

dp



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Wed Mar 29 07:33:00 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:33:00 -0500
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
Message-ID: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com>

Greetings:

  I'm also having this problem when I evaluate the first FOMUS example 
in the dictionary :


The function FOMUS:REST is undefined.
   [Condition of type UNDEFINED-FUNCTION]

Restarts:
  0: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
  1: [TERMINATE-THREAD] Terminate this thread (#<THREAD 
"new-repl-thread" {E6A8B99}>)

Backtrace:
  0: ("bogus stack frame")


FOMUS v0.1.57, SBCL, CM 2.8.0

Best,

dp



From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Mar 29 08:43:24 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:43:24 -0600
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu>

I removed the (:shadow rest) from cm's fomus stub package and that  
seems to have fixed it (rev 1.52 of cm/src/pkg.lisp)


> The function FOMUS:REST is undefined.
>   [Condition of type UNDEFINED-FUNCTION]




From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Mar 29 08:46:50 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:46:50 -0600
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu>

i think i have cmio working again, but the rts button stuff wont  be  
available.
you need rev 1.1 of periodic.lisp (it may take a bit to update  
anonymous server.)
i will make a new tarball on sf too.


thanks for finding problems!



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Wed Mar 29 10:29:08 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:29:08 -0500
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com>

Rick Taube wrote:

> I removed the (:shadow rest) from cm's fomus stub package and that  
> seems to have fixed it (rev 1.52 of cm/src/pkg.lisp)
>
>
>> The function FOMUS:REST is undefined.
>>   [Condition of type UNDEFINED-FUNCTION]
>
>
>
Thanks, Rick, that fixed it. :)

Now I have another problem with the output file. LilyPond 2.7.3 doesn't 
like it, it complains about the def-music-function being an unbound 
variable. Is the culprit FOMUS or LilyPond ?

Best,

dp




From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Wed Mar 29 10:47:12 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:47:12 -0500
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com>

Dave Phillips wrote:

> Now I have another problem with the output file. LilyPond 2.7.3 
> doesn't like it, it complains about the def-music-function being an 
> unbound variable. Is the culprit FOMUS or LilyPond ?

LilyPond changed the syntax (surprise, surprise). It's now 
define-music-function.

Best,

dp



From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Mar 29 11:59:51 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:59:51 -0600
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com> <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu>

Ive forwarded this to David Psenicka, he will have some fix im sure.

On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Dave Phillips wrote:
>
>> Now I have another problem with the output file. LilyPond 2.7.3  
>> doesn't like it, it complains about the def-music-function being  
>> an unbound variable. Is the culprit FOMUS or LilyPond ?
>
> LilyPond changed the syntax (surprise, surprise). It's now define- 
> music-function.
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From joshp at u.washington.edu  Wed Mar 29 13:16:02 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:16:02 -0800
Subject: [CM] [OT] Summer courses in computer music at DXARTS, University of Washington, Seattle
Message-ID: <73FDA4CA-2A95-4241-A08E-85962AEFE3E9@u.washington.edu>

Hi everyone, below is some course descriptions for classes being  
offered this summer through the Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media at the University of Washington. Feel free to  
contact me with any questions.

Josh Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu

Summer courses in computer music in Seattle, Washington. Summer 2006.

The Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media at the University  
of Washington in Seattle announces two courses in Computer Music for  
Summer 2006. Courses are managed through the University of  
Washington's Summer Programs (see http://www.summer.washington.edu/ 
summer/home.asp or more information) and award 5 quarter units each.  
Course enrollment is limited to 20 students. Each course is taught  
over a four-week intensive term.

DXARTS 598 Summer Term A- Algorithmic sound composition. 5 credits.

Algorithmic Sound Composition will teach students how to use of the  
program Common Music and the language LISP for algorithmic music  
composition.  Course topics will range from an introduction to the  
programming language, note by note control of programs, control of  
large scale processes, and the usage of the language for instrumental  
and computer music composition. No previous programming experience is  
required, though previous experience with a synthesis programming  
language such as Csound, Common Lisp Music (CLM) or Super Collider is  
suggested.

DXARTS 598 Summer Term B- Interactive Computer Music with the Super  
Collider Programming Language. 5 credits

Presents a four week intensive course on the Super Collider synthesis  
programming language. Course material will range from an introduction  
to the language and basic concepts through advanced topics such the  
creation of real-time control structures for music, sound art and  
interactive installations, graphic user interface (GUI) creation and  
the extension of the program through the construction of classes and  
Unit Generators.

For more information, contact Joshua Parmenter at joshp at u.washington.edu

******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/




From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Mar 30 01:01:05 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:01:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] Snd-ls 0.9.6.0_beta
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603300055570.15120@ttleush.stanford.edu>

Hi, I just put snd-ls v0.9.6.0_beta into 
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kjetil/src/ .

It includes SND 8.0 with the new rt-player enabled by default. rt-player 
is an alternative player engine for snd that plays using the rt-extension 
and reads data from disk through a ringbuffer. The result is less clicks.

I can play 16 channels soundfiles with this one, and without clicks. But
more than 16 channels is hardly possible, at least with my pata-100 disk.



From dpsenick at uiuc.edu  Thu Mar 30 13:10:06 2006
From: dpsenick at uiuc.edu (David Psenicka)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:10:06 -0600
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com> <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com> <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442C492E.9020808@uiuc.edu>

Thanks.  The latest fomus CVS should work now with LilyPond 2.7/2.8 (as 
long as it detects the right lilypond version it should output a 
compatible file).

-David

Rick Taube wrote:

> Ive forwarded this to David Psenicka, he will have some fix im sure.
>
> On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
>
>> Dave Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> Now I have another problem with the output file. LilyPond 2.7.3  
>>> doesn't like it, it complains about the def-music-function being  an 
>>> unbound variable. Is the culprit FOMUS or LilyPond ?
>>
>>
>> LilyPond changed the syntax (surprise, surprise). It's now define- 
>> music-function.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> dp
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>
>
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From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Thu Mar 30 13:54:35 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:54:35 -0500
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com> <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com>

Rick Taube wrote:

> i think i have cmio working again, but the rts button stuff wont  be  
> available.
> you need rev 1.1 of periodic.lisp (it may take a bit to update  
> anonymous server.)
> i will make a new tarball on sf too.

Hi Rick:

  Alas, I have a new problem. When CM tries to load cm-gtk.asd it falls 
into an endless loop of messages saying 'CM install directory: 
"/home/dlphilp/cm/"'. Any idea what's causing that ?

Best,

dp



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Mar 30 14:52:43 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:52:43 -0600
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com> <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu> <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <53b00b9e5f059291e2b3aa30f494b7a9@uiuc.edu>

odd. that doesnt happen for me. what lisp are you using?
maybe try (use-system :cm-gtk :verbose t)  and send me the print out.

also, try doing Control-Cs to stop the enless loop and send me a 
bactrace if you can.



On Mar 30, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Rick Taube wrote:
>
>> i think i have cmio working again, but the rts button stuff wont  be  
>> available.
>> you need rev 1.1 of periodic.lisp (it may take a bit to update  
>> anonymous server.)
>> i will make a new tarball on sf too.
>
> Hi Rick:
>
>  Alas, I have a new problem. When CM tries to load cm-gtk.asd it falls 
> into an endless loop of messages saying 'CM install directory: 
> "/home/dlphilp/cm/"'. Any idea what's causing that ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Fri Mar 31 05:08:14 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:08:14 -0500
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <4fb44017b10f734d6e7bb9aa94e887bc@uiuc.edu>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com> <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu> <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com> <53b00b9e5f059291e2b3aa30f494b7a9@uiuc.edu> <4fb44017b10f734d6e7bb9aa94e887bc@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442D29BE.4000207@woh.rr.com>

Rick Taube wrote:

> perhaps somehow one system is loaded which loads another that depends 
> on the first?
> in order to figure this out, make sure that you do NOT have 
> .cminit.lisp file and that your src/cm.lisp isnt loading any systems 
> either.

Hi Rick:

  I removed ~/.cminit.lisp and just used use-system in the REPL. The 
cm-gtk module appeared to compile and load just fine. I evaluated 
(cmio), the tabbed GUI appeared, but it was DOA. It didn't respond to 
mouse clicks and I eventually had to kill the whole inferior lisp process.

  Does it matter that there are two files named periodic.lisp, one in 
cm-gtk and one in rts ?

  SBCL 1:0.9.9, kernel 2.6.14, CVS CM and modules.

Best,

dp



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Fri Mar 31 05:10:36 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:10:36 -0500
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <442C492E.9020808@uiuc.edu>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com> <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com> <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu> <442C492E.9020808@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442D2A4C.1040605@woh.rr.com>

David Psenicka wrote:

> Thanks.  The latest fomus CVS should work now with LilyPond 2.7/2.8 
> (as long as it detects the right lilypond version it should output a 
> compatible file).
>
It works now. :)

Thank you !

Btw, I'm profiling FOMUS in my next column for Linux Journal On-line. 
I'm having trouble creating a polyphonic example for the CM/FOMUS combo. 
Any suggestions or examples to consider ?

Best,

dp



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 31 05:10:07 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:10:07 -0600
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <442D29BE.4000207@woh.rr.com>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com> <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu> <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com> <53b00b9e5f059291e2b3aa30f494b7a9@uiuc.edu> <4fb44017b10f734d6e7bb9aa94e887bc@uiuc.edu> <442D29BE.4000207@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <19A0ACA3-8CC8-4D54-B733-50B7CFB988DB@uiuc.edu>

do you have rts loaded as well? that might be a problem -- im about  
ready to give up with rts in sbcl.

i can load cm-gtk in sbcl 0.9.7 and cmucl and (cmio) works:

cm -l sbcl
(use-system :cm-gtk)
(cmio)

On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Rick Taube wrote:
>
>> perhaps somehow one system is loaded which loads another that  
>> depends on the first?
>> in order to figure this out, make sure that you do NOT  
>> have .cminit.lisp file and that your src/cm.lisp isnt loading any  
>> systems either.
>
> Hi Rick:
>
>  I removed ~/.cminit.lisp and just used use-system in the REPL. The  
> cm-gtk module appeared to compile and load just fine. I evaluated  
> (cmio), the tabbed GUI appeared, but it was DOA. It didn't respond  
> to mouse clicks and I eventually had to kill the whole inferior  
> lisp process.
>
>  Does it matter that there are two files named periodic.lisp, one  
> in cm-gtk and one in rts ?
>
>  SBCL 1:0.9.9, kernel 2.6.14, CVS CM and modules.
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 31 05:11:52 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:11:52 -0600
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <442D2A4C.1040605@woh.rr.com>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com> <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com> <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu> <442C492E.9020808@uiuc.edu> <442D2A4C.1040605@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <AC000CDA-91DC-45A5-B6AF-A5121CDA7894@uiuc.edu>

I have a piano and viola ring-modulated spectrum example from the  
spectral compostion workshop i did last summer, would that suffice?

On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:10 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:

> David Psenicka wrote:
>
>> Thanks.  The latest fomus CVS should work now with LilyPond  
>> 2.7/2.8 (as long as it detects the right lilypond version it  
>> should output a compatible file).
>>
> It works now. :)
>
> Thank you !
>
> Btw, I'm profiling FOMUS in my next column for Linux Journal On- 
> line. I'm having trouble creating a polyphonic example for the CM/ 
> FOMUS combo. Any suggestions or examples to consider ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Fri Mar 31 05:51:28 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:51:28 -0500
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
In-Reply-To: <19A0ACA3-8CC8-4D54-B733-50B7CFB988DB@uiuc.edu>
References: <442A8853.7080805@woh.rr.com> <B50FA10C-36E3-4BDC-A01A-D3079D4270AA@uiuc.edu> <442C539B.60105@woh.rr.com> <53b00b9e5f059291e2b3aa30f494b7a9@uiuc.edu> <4fb44017b10f734d6e7bb9aa94e887bc@uiuc.edu> <442D29BE.4000207@woh.rr.com> <19A0ACA3-8CC8-4D54-B733-50B7CFB988DB@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442D33E0.4030409@woh.rr.com>

Rick Taube wrote:

> do you have rts loaded as well? that might be a problem -- im about  
> ready to give up with rts in sbcl.

No rts loaded. However, I have been loading the cffi stuff first. I just 
tried loading cm-gtk without loading cffi, the CMIO panel appears to 
work perfectly. My bad, I was assuming that cffi was needed for the 
cm-gtk module.

> i can load cm-gtk in sbcl 0.9.7 and cmucl and (cmio) works:
>
> cm -l sbcl
> (use-system :cm-gtk)
> (cmio)

That now works here too.

Btw, there are two tabs for PortMIDI. Is that how it's supposed to be ?

Best,

dp



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Fri Mar 31 05:52:53 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:52:53 -0500
Subject: [CM] a FOMUS problem
In-Reply-To: <AC000CDA-91DC-45A5-B6AF-A5121CDA7894@uiuc.edu>
References: <442AA8AC.3030702@woh.rr.com> <2AA02163-81A6-47D7-B2F0-10B7CACE7A64@uiuc.edu> <442AD1F4.4010002@woh.rr.com> <442AD630.6070708@woh.rr.com> <F48586B0-81F9-46BD-BF17-761BCC1CF191@uiuc.edu> <442C492E.9020808@uiuc.edu> <442D2A4C.1040605@woh.rr.com> <AC000CDA-91DC-45A5-B6AF-A5121CDA7894@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <442D3435.2000505@woh.rr.com>

Rick Taube wrote:

> I have a piano and viola ring-modulated spectrum example from the  
> spectral compostion workshop i did last summer, would that suffice?
>
Sure, that would be great. I tried rewriting some CMN examples last 
night but I was too tired and my attempts weren't making any sense...

Best,

dp




From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Mar 31 11:05:13 2006
From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:05:13 -0800
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
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On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 07:10 -0600, Rick Taube wrote:
> do you have rts loaded as well? that might be a problem -- im about  
> ready to give up with rts in sbcl.

Arghh... that'd be too bad... it was working in the snapshot I have been
using. Which version of sbcl are you trying?

-- Fernando

> i can load cm-gtk in sbcl 0.9.7 and cmucl and (cmio) works:
> 
> cm -l sbcl
> (use-system :cm-gtk)
> (cmio)
> 
> On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> 
> > Rick Taube wrote:
> >
> >> perhaps somehow one system is loaded which loads another that  
> >> depends on the first?
> >> in order to figure this out, make sure that you do NOT  
> >> have .cminit.lisp file and that your src/cm.lisp isnt loading any  
> >> systems either.
> >
> > Hi Rick:
> >
> >  I removed ~/.cminit.lisp and just used use-system in the REPL. The  
> > cm-gtk module appeared to compile and load just fine. I evaluated  
> > (cmio), the tabbed GUI appeared, but it was DOA. It didn't respond  
> > to mouse clicks and I eventually had to kill the whole inferior  
> > lisp process.
> >
> >  Does it matter that there are two files named periodic.lisp, one  
> > in cm-gtk and one in rts ?
> >
> >  SBCL 1:0.9.9, kernel 2.6.14, CVS CM and modules.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > dp




From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Fri Mar 31 11:20:33 2006
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:20:33 +0200
Subject: [CM] more re: CM and cm-gtk
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Message-ID: <20060331192033.GG6013@grisey>

Hi Rick,

Am 31. M?rz 2006, 07:10 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Rick Taube:
> do you have rts loaded as well? that might be a problem -- im about  
> ready to give up with rts in sbcl.

Please don't do that! I really need rts and sbcl working. It does seem
to work here (with cm 2.7.0) and Ralf Mattes is going to help me
implementing a pdsend class for integrating cm with pd which would
solve about anything I could wish for in the moment...

--
Orm



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 31 12:08:04 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:08:04 -0600
Subject: [CM] rts
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well i dont mean give up TOTALLY, just (possibly)  try a different  
solution. trying to do it all in 100% lisp is really hard, its like  
working with one hand tied behind your back. as it stands rts seems  
to work really well only in openmcl.

maybe moving the rts scheduler to C and using callbacks to eval  
musical processes that get registered from lisp is a better way to  
go. im trying run some tests right now as a mater of fact. if it  
worked there would be some huge advantages:

-rts could run in every cffi/common lisp and any scheme with callbacks
-have complete control over process pioroty etc
-give conless scheduling in lisp and no boxing/unboxing doubles

since we already have a good model for rts scheduling it probably  
isnt hard to move it to C.  of course my c abilities are really poor  
-- it took me 2 hours to figure out how to do a Makefile that creates  
a .dylib :/ but as of 1 hour ago i was able to sprout my first  
ptheads in cmucl sbcl and openmcl on darwin and get rts time from c.  
progress!!




> Hi Rick,
>
> Am 31. M?rz 2006, 07:10 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Rick Taube:
>> do you have rts loaded as well? that might be a problem -- im about
>> ready to give up with rts in sbcl.
>
> Please don't do that! I really need rts and sbcl working. It does seem
> to work here (with cm 2.7.0) and Ralf Mattes is going to help me
> implementing a pdsend class for integrating cm with pd which would
> solve about anything I could wish for in the moment...
>
> --
> Orm



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Mar 31 17:02:24 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:02:24 -0600
Subject: Fwd: [CM] a FOMUS problem
Message-ID: <a74e0fd9f4f09fa5b4bfc405739209f1@uiuc.edu>

ill add my rm-spectrum example later today.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: David Psenicka <dpsenick at uiuc.edu>
> Date: March 31, 2006 6:29:00 PM CST
> To: Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CM] a FOMUS problem
>
> Here are a few simple polyphonic examples:
>
>
> (defparameter *part* (new fms:part :instr :piano :partid 'pno))
>
> (defun polygen (voice len minp maxp)
>  (process repeat len
>           output (new fms:note
>            :off (now)
>            :voice voice
>            :partid 'pno
>            :note (between minp maxp)
>            :dur 1/2)
>           wait 1/2))
>
> ;; voice is given
> (events (list (polygen 1 20 60 80) (polygen 2 20 40 60)) 
> "/tmp/test.ly" :parts *part* :view t)
>
> ;; fomus decides voice
> (events (list (polygen '(1 2) 20 50 80) (polygen '(1 2) 20 40 70)) 
> "/tmp/test.ly" :parts *part* :view t)
>
> ;; 3/4 voices... (does fairly well with the exception of a few large 
> leaps here and there)
> (events (list (polygen '(1 2 3) 20 30 80) (polygen '(1 2 3) 20 30 80) 
> (polygen '(1 2 3) 20 30 80)) "/tmp/test.ly" :parts *part* :view t)
> (events (list (polygen '(1 2 3 4) 20 30 80) (polygen '(1 2 3 4) 20 30 
> 80) (polygen '(1 2 3 4) 20 30 80)) "/tmp/test.ly" :parts *part* :view 
> t)
>
>
> I hope these help.
>
> -David
>
> Dave Phillips wrote:
>
>> Rick Taube wrote:
>>
>>> I have a piano and viola ring-modulated spectrum example from the  
>>> spectral compostion workshop i did last summer, would that suffice?
>>>
>> Sure, that would be great. I tried rewriting some CMN examples last 
>> night but I was too tired and my attempts weren't making any sense...
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> dp
>>
>>
>>