From johannes.quint at web.de  Thu Jun  1 05:05:39 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:05:39 +0200
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
Message-ID: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de>

when i try the example in the sc-entry of the dict, i get the following:

(define *sc* (sc-open))
 > Undefined function SC-OPEN called with arguments () .
    [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]

thanks for any help, johannes
_________________________

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
http://www.johannes-quint.de


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From fdowling at utvinternet.com  Thu Jun  1 08:33:24 2006
From: fdowling at utvinternet.com (Fergal Dowling)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:33:24 +0100
Subject: [CM] rhythmic symbols for rests
Message-ID: <6aadd124b84f84dba51d4e9e6c4c80ae@utvinternet.com>

Hi,
In "Notes from the Metalevel", (Chapter 10 p93) table 8 gives examples 
of rhythmic symbols:

quarter				q
triplet quarter 		tq
dotted-eight 			e.
triplet dotted sixteenth	ts.

and so on.

Are there corresponding rhythmic symbols for rests?

Thanks,
Fergal Dowling.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jun  1 08:36:49 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:36:49 -0500
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
Message-ID: <651800b6.c19f76fd.8698600@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

depending on what verions of cm etc you may have to do (use-system :osc) first.

note that the osc, portmidi and midishare systems are being moved to C, this
work is "in progress"  so cvs may or may not work at any given time.
you might want to wait a week or two before you really start a project.

in contrast, rts cvs is more solid than a week ago. michael klingbeil found and
fixed a nasty bug that caused the sceduler to "drift" over periods of time when
 scheduling parallel processes. also sched_rr is now used and default rts thread
priority is  70. you have to update both rts and cm trees. you can also now use
(events) scheduling to write files even while rts is playing. i think michael
also made the spacebar in plotter play mouse selection or whole plot via rts 



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jun  1 09:28:37 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:28:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] rhythmic symbols for rests
Message-ID: <1e5cfa66.c1a4352b.8229500@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

you can use a minus sign to mark a rhythm as a rest. an initial - will cause the
rhythm function to return a negative time value. your code will then look for
negative values and act accordingly.

CM> (rhythm '-q.)
-1.5

note that the minus sign operates on the whole symbol even if + and - appear
inside it:

CM> CM> (rhythm '-w+s)
-4.25



you can pass a negative time values to WAIT and it will use the absolute value
but otherwise CM doesnt treat negative value differnetly than positive ones.


 

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:33:24 +0100
>From: Fergal Dowling <fdowling at utvinternet.com>  
>Subject: [CM] rhythmic symbols for rests  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>Hi,
>In "Notes from the Metalevel", (Chapter 10 p93) table 8 gives examples 
>of rhythmic symbols:
>
>quarter				q
>triplet quarter 		tq
>dotted-eight 			e.
>triplet dotted sixteenth	ts.
>
>and so on.
>
>Are there corresponding rhythmic symbols for rests?
>
>Thanks,
>Fergal Dowling.
>
>_______________________________________________
>Cmdist mailing list
>Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From johannes.quint at web.de  Thu Jun  1 10:11:34 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:11:34 +0200
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
In-Reply-To: <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu>
References: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de> <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <F3E17392-2BA1-455F-9DF8-99F8FBC4E0DE@web.de>

Am 01.06.2006 um 17:30 schrieb todd ingalls:

> i think you may need to get the osc system
>
> export CVSROOT=":pserver:anonymous at commonmusic.cvs.sourceforge.net:/ 
> cvsroot/commonmusic"
>
> cvs checkout -P osc
>
> then run
>
> (use-system :osc)
>
> (sc-open) should be available then.
>
>
> sorry, this has been changing and may not be well reflected in the  
> docs.
>

thanks for your answer.
this is what i get when typing (use-system :osc)

CM> (use-system :osc)
; loading system definition from /Applications/lisp/osc/osc.asd into  
#<Package "ASDF381">
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/osc/osc.asd"...
; registering #<SYSTEM :OSC #x86A4B96> as OSC
; loading system definition from /Applications/lisp/rts/rts.asd into  
#<Package "ASDF382">
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/rts/rts.asd"...
; registering #<SYSTEM :RTS #x86B36AE> as RTS
; loading system definition from /Applications/lisp/cffi/cffi.asd  
into #<Package "ASDF383">
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/cffi.asd"...
; registering #<SYSTEM CFFI #x86CD0DE> as CFFI
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/utils.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/features.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/cffi-openmcl.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/package.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/libraries.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/early-types.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/types.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/enum.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/strings.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/functions.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/cffi/src/foreign-vars.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/rts/cffi-scheduler.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/rts/cm-scheduler.dfsl"...
;Loading #P"/Applications/lisp/osc/sockets.dfsl"...
;Compiling "/Applications/lisp/osc/osc.lisp"...
Read error between positions 5362 and 5636 in /Applications/lisp/osc/ 
osc.lisp.

what's my mistake?

regards, johannes

_________________________

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
http://www.johannes-quint.de




From johannes.quint at web.de  Thu Jun  1 11:12:58 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:12:58 +0200
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
In-Reply-To: <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu>
References: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de> <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <971FF077-C210-4A8E-9EF7-D26CB6EB01B9@web.de>

[
;Compiling "/Applications/lisp/osc/osc.lisp"...
Read error between positions 5362 and 5636 in /Applications/lisp/osc/ 
osc.lisp.
]

... and in the report:

There is no package named "PTHREADS" .
    [Condition of type CCL::NO-SUCH-PACKAGE]



From testcase at asu.edu  Thu Jun  1 08:30:15 2006
From: testcase at asu.edu (todd ingalls)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:30:15 -0700
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
In-Reply-To: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de>
References: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de>
Message-ID: <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu>

i think you may need to get the osc system

export CVSROOT=":pserver:anonymous at commonmusic.cvs.sourceforge.net:/ 
cvsroot/commonmusic"

cvs checkout -P osc

then run

(use-system :osc)

(sc-open) should be available then.


sorry, this has been changing and may not be well reflected in the docs.






On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Johannes Quint wrote:

> when i try the example in the sc-entry of the dict, i get the  
> following:
>
> (define *sc* (sc-open))
> > Undefined function SC-OPEN called with arguments () .
>    [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]
>
> thanks for any help, johannes
> _________________________
>
> Johannes Quint
> Rilkestr.55
> D-53225 Bonn
> 0228 468256
> johannes.quint at web.de
> http://www.johannes-quint.de
>
>



From fergaldowling at ear.ie  Thu Jun  1 08:31:12 2006
From: fergaldowling at ear.ie (Fergal Dowling)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:31:12 +0100
Subject: [CM] rhythmic rest symbol
Message-ID: <b4cecfb7c2472463c21540e8604cb028@ear.ie>

Hi,
In "Notes from the Metalevel", (Chapter 10 p93) table 8 gives examples 
of rhythmic symbols:

quarter				q
triplet quarter 		tq
dotted-eight 			e.
triplet dotted sixteenth	ts.

and so on.

Are there corresponding rhythmic symbols for rests?

Thanks,
Fergal Dowling.



From testcase at asu.edu  Thu Jun  1 16:23:41 2006
From: testcase at asu.edu (todd ingalls)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:23:41 -0700
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
In-Reply-To: <971FF077-C210-4A8E-9EF7-D26CB6EB01B9@web.de>
References: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de> <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu> <971FF077-C210-4A8E-9EF7-D26CB6EB01B9@web.de>
Message-ID: <F9335B8C-3FB1-4AC7-95C3-866AE7FF9E35@asu.edu>

Johannes,
I just checked in changes to fix the problems and now things should  
be working correctly for sending osc messages. you may need to wait a  
little while for the changes to hit the anonymous cvs server. i am  
still working getting receiving finished.




On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Johannes Quint wrote:

>
> [
> ;Compiling "/Applications/lisp/osc/osc.lisp"...
> Read error between positions 5362 and 5636 in /Applications/lisp/ 
> osc/osc.lisp.
> ]
>
> ... and in the report:
>
> There is no package named "PTHREADS" .
>    [Condition of type CCL::NO-SUCH-PACKAGE]
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From johannes.quint at web.de  Fri Jun  2 13:35:46 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:35:46 +0200
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
In-Reply-To: <F9335B8C-3FB1-4AC7-95C3-866AE7FF9E35@asu.edu>
References: <7C18A208-4F1B-4C5E-B7E0-660B9D79867A@web.de> <BFA783CD-E602-420E-BCAC-7A52AA039FF9@asu.edu> <971FF077-C210-4A8E-9EF7-D26CB6EB01B9@web.de> <F9335B8C-3FB1-4AC7-95C3-866AE7FF9E35@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <2EE2F42E-3130-4F0E-8744-2B11A812B9AC@web.de>

Am 02.06.2006 um 01:23 schrieb todd ingalls:

> Johannes,
> I just checked in changes to fix the problems and now things should  
> be working correctly for sending osc messages. you may need to wait  
> a little while for the changes to hit the anonymous cvs server. i  
> am still working getting receiving finished.

todd,
(use-system :osc) works now.
but when i go on with 'etc/examples/rt-sc.cm'
and i am at the point (sprout (sc-simple-1 10)),
the lisp into my emacs crashes:
'Lisp connection closed unexpectedly: connection broken by remote peer'

johannes

_________________________

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
http://www.johannes-quint.de




From andersvi at extern.uio.no  Sat Jun  3 07:46:54 2006
From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi at extern.uio.no)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:46:54 +0200
Subject: [CM] CM: sbcl schedule-object
Message-ID: <m3ejy6e1pd.fsf@notam.uio.no>

Hi.

In src/sbcl.lisp, the (defgeneric schedule-object ...) doesnt
seem to be updated to new argument-count

And down in src/scheduler.scm, the last method-defintion puts 2
'start args in the lambda-list:

(define-method* (schedule-object (obj <pair>) start start sched)
  ;; CHANGE: this now calls its self recursivly as it should
  (dolist (o obj) (schedule-object o start sched)))

-anders



From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jun  4 08:08:40 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:08:40 -0500
Subject: [CM] rts and supercollider
Message-ID: <5973d392.c32861fe.8198300@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

in order to figure out what is going wrong you will have to indicate what lisp 
you are using. next, before trying rts with osc make sure that rts itself is 
working using midishare or portmidi. third, are you using slime? If so then 
depending on your os and lisp this can be the cause of problems. i only have 
email connectio right now but i sent a note about this two or three weeks ago 
to the list, you can look in the may postings for the cmdist archive.

>(use-system :osc) works now.
>but when i go on with 'etc/examples/rt-sc.cm'
>and i am at the point (sprout (sc-simple-1 10)),
>the lisp into my emacs crashes:
>'Lisp connection closed unexpectedly: connection broken by remote peer'
>
>johannes
>
>_________________________
>
>Johannes Quint
>Rilkestr.55
>D-53225 Bonn
>0228 468256
>johannes.quint at web.de
>http://www.johannes-quint.de
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From andersvi at extern.uio.no  Mon Jun  5 04:41:34 2006
From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi at extern.uio.no)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:41:34 +0200
Subject: [CM] plot.cl (from dlocsig)
Message-ID: <cop7j3vaky9.fsf@pierre.localdomain>

There are various plotting packages for cm lying around.

Heres my favorite - a very simple, but effective gnuplot-based
one.  I find i use it all the time, needing nothing but gnuplot
set up.  The code below is set up to run with sbcl as well as the
others.

I havent set up with any schemes here.  Maybe someone has some
time to spare.  Its a matter of redefining #'open-plot and
#'close-plot to whatever calls are used to manage
processes/shells by the implementation.

> (plot-data (loop repeat 100 collect (random 1.0)))

> (plot-2d-curve '(0 0 1 1 8 0.7 10 0))

> (plot-2d-curves (list '(0 0 .1 1 .8 0.7 1 0) '(0 1 1 0)))

> (plot-3d-curve (loop repeat 7
			 for x = (between -1.0 1.0)
			 for y = (between -1.0 1.0)
			 for z = (between -1.0 1.0)
			 append (list x y z))
		   :style "lp")

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From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jun  5 07:26:02 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0500
Subject: [CM] plot.cl (from dlocsig)
Message-ID: <deb0b36c.c3a84fe3.8815600@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

there is also some gnuplot code in the cmt module (cvs checkout cmt) that 
includes importing. it would be nice if these got merged into somrthing that 
use streams and that you could output algos to via 'events', like plotter 
fomus or cmn

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:41:34 +0200
>From: andersvi at extern.uio.no  
>Subject: [CM] plot.cl (from dlocsig)  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>There are various plotting packages for cm lying around.
>
>Heres my favorite - a very simple, but effective gnuplot-based
>one.  I find i use it all the time, needing nothing but gnuplot
>set up.  The code below is set up to run with sbcl as well as the
>others.
>
>I havent set up with any schemes here.  Maybe someone has some
>time to spare.  Its a matter of redefining #'open-plot and
>#'close-plot to whatever calls are used to manage
>processes/shells by the implementation.
>
>> (plot-data (loop repeat 100 collect (random 1.0)))
>
>> (plot-2d-curve '(0 0 1 1 8 0.7 10 0))
>
>> (plot-2d-curves (list '(0 0 .1 1 .8 0.7 1 0) '(0 1 1 0)))
>
>> (plot-3d-curve (loop repeat 7
>			 for x = (between -1.0 1.0)
>			 for y = (between -1.0 1.0)
>			 for z = (between -1.0 1.0)
>			 append (list x y z))
>		   :style "lp")
>
>________________
>plot.cl (10k bytes)



From torstenanders at gmx.de  Mon Jun  5 10:35:59 2006
From: torstenanders at gmx.de (Torsten Anders)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 19:35:59 +0200
Subject: [CM] Strasheela 0.8 released
Message-ID: <6124cd3d3b9a21a7c41ddd590b091890@gmx.de>

[Apologies for multiple postings]

Strasheela 0.8 is released. Strasheela is a highly expressive 
constraint-based music composition system. The Strasheela user 
declaratively states a music theory and the computer generates music 
which complies this theory. A theory is formulated as a constraint 
satisfaction problem (CSP) by a set of rules (constraints) applied to a 
music representation in which some aspects are expressed by variables 
(unknowns). Music constraint programming is style-independent and is 
well-suited for highly complex theories (e.g. a fully-fledged theory of 
harmony). The results can be output into various formats including 
MIDI, Csound, and Lilypond. Also output to nested Common Music seqs is 
already available (Strasheela may be launched from within Common Music 
and fed code via sockets).

After more than four years of research and development, this is the 
first Strasheela release which is made public.

Please visit http://strasheela.sourceforge.net/ for more information.

Best wishes,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Sonic Arts Research Centre ? Queen's University Belfast
Frankstr. 49 ? D-50996 K?ln
Tel: +49-221-3980750
www.torsten-anders.de
strasheela.sourceforge.net



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jun  5 11:57:05 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:57:05 -0700
Subject: [CM] a birthday
Message-ID: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later... 



From sgsofia at myuw.net  Mon Jun  5 13:31:41 2006
From: sgsofia at myuw.net (sal g sofia)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:31:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] a birthday
In-Reply-To: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606051324520.7942@cicero11.myuw.net>

Well,

Happy Birthday! and Juan (Pampin) could take us all for a drink
"Bevanda", ...well it sounds good to me.

Regards,

-Sal

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
> 1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later...
>
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> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>



From kruhft at gmail.com  Mon Jun  5 12:38:02 2006
From: kruhft at gmail.com (Burton Samograd)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:38:02 -0600
Subject: [CM] Re: a birthday
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <87r723mm05.fsf@gmail.com>

"Bill Schottstaedt"
<bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> writes:

> It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
> 1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later... 

...and look at how much it's grown! ;-)

Good job Bill, if only I had more time to play with it and help it grow...

-- 
burton samograd						 kruhft .at. gmail
new 1280x1024 wallpapers available :  http://kruhft.boldlygoingnowhere.org



From dlphillips at woh.rr.com  Tue Jun  6 08:46:28 2006
From: dlphillips at woh.rr.com (Dave Phillips)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:46:28 -0400
Subject: [CM] a birthday
In-Reply-To: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>

Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

>It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
>1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later... 
>  
>
That's half a million free & freely available lines of source code that 
anyone can compile, study, and revise as they please.

Snd is a remarkable gift. Thanks for making it, Bill, and thanks for 
further providing the community with an amazing amount of support, 
advice, and encouragement, also all freely given.

Happy birthday, Snd, 10 years and still growing. :)

Best,

dp



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jun  6 10:53:48 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:53:48 -0700
Subject: [CM] a birthday
In-Reply-To: <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20060606175242.M30468@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Thanks for all the kindly replies!  Snd says he doesn't feel half so old
after all.



From fbar at footils.org  Tue Jun  6 11:44:00 2006
From: fbar at footils.org (Frank Barknecht)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 20:44:00 +0200
Subject: [CM] a birthday
In-Reply-To: <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20060606184400.GK28878@fliwatut.scifi>

Hallo,
Dave Phillips hat gesagt: // Dave Phillips wrote:

> Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
> 
> >It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
> >1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later... 
> > 
> >
> That's half a million free & freely available lines of source code that 
> anyone can compile, study, and revise as they please.
> 
> Snd is a remarkable gift. Thanks for making it, Bill, and thanks for 
> further providing the community with an amazing amount of support, 
> advice, and encouragement, also all freely given.
> 
> Happy birthday, Snd, 10 years and still growing. :)

I very much agree with that and would like to add my best wishes for
the next 10 years an up! Btw: It occured to me, that 1996 was a good
year for sound software, as that also was the year, in which Miller
Puckette first presented Pd to the pulic in an ICMC paper (AFAIK). And
10 years later, Kjetil joined the two. ;)

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Jun  7 07:30:34 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:30:34 -0700
Subject: [CM] documentation
Message-ID: <4486E30A.2080205@ccrma>

I've been working on the documentation for a couple weeks, and feel
like I need feedback or better ideas.

What do the current docs need, and how best to fill that need?
Are there any examples I should look at it?



From kruhft at gmail.com  Wed Jun  7 11:49:43 2006
From: kruhft at gmail.com (Burton Samograd)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:49:43 -0600
Subject: [CM] EDM Spectrum Featured Showcase of the Week - kruhft
Message-ID: <87d5dkg5rs.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi All,

The people at EDM Spectrum selected me as the featured profile of the
week, so I thought I would pass it along, since a couple of the up
there songs were written with CLM (off my programmed piano ep i just
released).  If you're interested in hearing some of my other work,
clicky here:

       http://www.edmspectrum.org

They also have put me along side artist of the week Aphex Twin, which
some of you might have heard of as well ;-) They try and pair the
artist with the showcases, so I'm thinking it's a pretty nice
compliment on thier part.

-- 
burton samograd						 kruhft .at. gmail
kruhft - Artist Showcase of the Week :		http://www.edmspectrum.com



From tourtelt at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 06:44:19 2006
From: tourtelt at yahoo.com (George Tourtellot)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] newbie question
Message-ID: <20060609134419.5092.qmail@web54111.mail.yahoo.com>

hi, I'm just getting started with cm, following
Tabue's "The Notes From the MetaLevel."

I've also installed the full cm, but the behavior is
not the same as with the the binary provided with the
Taube book.

For example, (define 2pi (* 2 pi))  only works for me
with the binary Taube provided.  What distribution of
lisp did he provide?

(I'm on Mac 10.4, and have tried using clisp, openclm,
and guile).

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From lb at zkm.de  Fri Jun  9 05:39:08 2006
From: lb at zkm.de (Ludger Bruemmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:39:08 +0200
Subject: [CM] a birthday
In-Reply-To: <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
References: <20060605185049.M57642@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <4485A354.1040608@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <10FEC336-AE34-435F-AE38-7F9B609C4B07@zkm.de>

I have to agree to Dave Phillips,

SND is  the most flexible soundeditor I know. It has been very  
valuable for my work (along with clm) and I want to thank Bill and  
all the active helpers to develop it to its current state!

Happy birthday SND!

Ludger Br?mmer

Prof. Ludger Br?mmer

Leitung Institut f?r Musik und Akustik
Head of Institute for Music and Acoustics

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On 06.06.2006, at 17:46, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Bill Schottstaedt wrote:
>
>> It just occurred to me that Snd is 10 years old -- I started typing
>> 1-June-96.  Now, 500000 lines later...
> That's half a million free & freely available lines of source code  
> that anyone can compile, study, and revise as they please.
>
> Snd is a remarkable gift. Thanks for making it, Bill, and thanks  
> for further providing the community with an amazing amount of  
> support, advice, and encouragement, also all freely given.
>
> Happy birthday, Snd, 10 years and still growing. :)
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jun  9 08:18:26 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:18:26 -0500
Subject: [CM] newbie question
Message-ID: <10c728fb.c5bc6f98.83b3300@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>


Hello,  I do try to keep things "backward compatible" at the user level and the
example you provide does work in openmcl and clisp on my machine. are you sure
you are working in the CM package?
sending a full trace of your lisp session -- including the file loading at
startup time -- would be helpful to me in tracking down the problem.
--rick


---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT)
>From: George Tourtellot <tourtelt at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: [CM] newbie question  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>hi, I'm just getting started with cm, following
>Tabue's "The Notes From the MetaLevel."
>
>I've also installed the full cm, but the behavior is
>not the same as with the the binary provided with the
>Taube book.
>
>For example, (define 2pi (* 2 pi))  only works for me
>with the binary Taube provided.  What distribution of
>lisp did he provide?
>
>(I'm on Mac 10.4, and have tried using clisp, openclm,
>and guile).
>
>george
>
>
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From juanig at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jun  9 09:40:51 2006
From: juanig at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Juan I Reyes)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:40:51 -0400
Subject: [CM] documentation
In-Reply-To: <4486E30A.2080205@ccrma>
References: <4486E30A.2080205@ccrma>
Message-ID: <1149871251.5251.17.camel@strawberry>

What would the world be without SND ? -perhaps a black and white
spectrum and monophonic out of phase recordings.

As far as documentation I should say that a lot is documented with many,
and I mean a lot of useful examples. 

Sometimes what can be distracting or hard to understand for newbies is
the fact that many things can be accomplished algorithmically instead of
mouse-clicking or drag-and-drop. Some people also find the Emacs-Snd
connection (key-bindings) very hard to understand. But again, they are
usually not emacs users.


My wish is for many more Snd years to come! 

  --* Juan Reyes



From dgeers at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 12:45:47 2006
From: dgeers at gmail.com (Doug Geers)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:45:47 -0400
Subject: [CM] newbie question
In-Reply-To: <10c728fb.c5bc6f98.83b3300@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>
References: <10c728fb.c5bc6f98.83b3300@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <838326d50606091245u6ee24bfcp133b0e70e4c56260@mail.gmail.com>

George,

I began using CM on a Mac this past January, and my favorite
configuration is to use CM.app plus Aquamacs Emacs.  Once both are
installed, you can start up CM and it boots as a Listener window in
Aquamacs.  Very easy to use.

- Doug

On 6/9/06, taube at uiuc.edu <taube at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,  I do try to keep things "backward compatible" at the user level and the
> example you provide does work in openmcl and clisp on my machine. are you sure
> you are working in the CM package?
> sending a full trace of your lisp session -- including the file loading at
> startup time -- would be helpful to me in tracking down the problem.
> --rick
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: George Tourtellot <tourtelt at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [CM] newbie question
> >To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
> >
> >hi, I'm just getting started with cm, following
> >Tabue's "The Notes From the MetaLevel."
> >
> >I've also installed the full cm, but the behavior is
> >not the same as with the the binary provided with the
> >Taube book.
> >
> >For example, (define 2pi (* 2 pi))  only works for me
> >with the binary Taube provided.  What distribution of
> >lisp did he provide?
> >
> >(I'm on Mac 10.4, and have tried using clisp, openclm,
> >and guile).
> >
> >george
> >
> >
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From tourtelt at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 14:45:45 2006
From: tourtelt at yahoo.com (George Tourtellot)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] Re: Cmdist digest, Vol 1 #970 - 1 msg
In-Reply-To: <20060610190003.6144.81597.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <20060610214545.46921.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com>

thanks Doug,
actually, I don't like Aquaemacs because it takes too
long to open.

continuing with my previous set-up, I almost have cm
working except running it by typing M-cm in emacs
doesn't work:

slime starts, and in the top window I get:
CL-USER> 
but in the bottom window I get:

Undefined function CM called with arguments () .
   [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]

Restarts:
  0: [CONTINUE] Retry applying CM to NIL.
  1: [USE-VALUE] Apply specified function to NIL this
time.
  2: [STORE-VALUE] Specify a function to use as the
definition of CM.
  3: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
  4: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this process
  5: [ABORT] Kill this process

Backtrace:
  0: (CCL::CALL-CHECK-REGS 'CM)
 --more--                                             
                                                      
                  

which seems to indicate that cm can't be found.  not
sure what's wrong.

anyone have suggestions?
thanks,
George



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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jun 10 20:38:17 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:38:17 -0500
Subject: [CM] Re: Cmdist digest, Vol 1 #970 -
 1 msg
Message-ID: <844952c7.c684003d.8210500@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

look in cm/doc/emacs.html, it describes how to set up a system. the eqasiest way
is to firist install a command alias to cm.sh on your path, call it cm:

sudo ln -s /path/to/cm/bin/cm.sh /usr/local/bin/cm

[obviously replace /path/to/cm with the correct path for your machine...]

then add th little bit of glue code in your .emacs file:

(add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/cm/")
(load "etc/xemacs/cm.el")
(enable-cm-commands)


see emacs.html for more info



---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
>From: George Tourtellot <tourtelt at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: [CM] Re: Cmdist digest, Vol 1 #970 - 1 msg  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>thanks Doug,
>actually, I don't like Aquaemacs because it takes too
>long to open.
>
>continuing with my previous set-up, I almost have cm
>working except running it by typing M-cm in emacs
>doesn't work:
>
>slime starts, and in the top window I get:
>CL-USER> 
>but in the bottom window I get:
>
>Undefined function CM called with arguments () .
>   [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]
>
>Restarts:
>  0: [CONTINUE] Retry applying CM to NIL.
>  1: [USE-VALUE] Apply specified function to NIL this
>time.
>  2: [STORE-VALUE] Specify a function to use as the
>definition of CM.
>  3: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
>  4: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this process
>  5: [ABORT] Kill this process
>
>Backtrace:
>  0: (CCL::CALL-CHECK-REGS 'CM)
> --more--                                             
>                                                      
>                  
>
>which seems to indicate that cm can't be found.  not
>sure what's wrong.
>
>anyone have suggestions?
>thanks,
>George
>
>
>
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From tourtelt at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 11 09:47:29 2006
From: tourtelt at yahoo.com (George Tourtellot)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] more about emacs
In-Reply-To: <844952c7.c684003d.8210500@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20060611164729.73345.qmail@web54106.mail.yahoo.com>

...wrt to Rick's last message.
I did this.

now,  which cm   gives:
/usr/local/bin/cm

my .emacs file contains:
(add-to-list 'load-path
"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/slime/")
(setq inferior-lisp-program "/opt/local/bin/openmcl") 
(require 'slime)
(slime-setup)
(add-to-list 'load-path
"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/cm-2.8.0")
(load "etc/xemacs/cm.el")
(enable-cm-commands)

and I get the problem described before when doing M-cm
from emacs:

in bottom window:
Undefined function CM called with arguments () .
   [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]

Restarts:
  0: [CONTINUE] Retry applying CM to NIL.
  1: [USE-VALUE] Apply specified function to NIL this
time.
  2: [STORE-VALUE] Specify a function to use as the
definition of CM.
  3: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
  4: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this process
  5: [ABORT] Kill this process

Backtrace:
  0: (CCL::CALL-CHECK-REGS 'CM)
 --more--                                             
                                                      
                  


I'm using GNU Emacs 21.2.1   on mac os 10.4
george


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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jun 11 16:38:13 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:38:13 -0500
Subject: [CM] more about emacs
Message-ID: <4772e7a6.c6f1dacc.8210e00@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

it seems to me you are starting up a lisp and not loading cm
not really sure what is going wrong.
try adding this to your .emacs file:


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
>From: George Tourtellot <tourtelt at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: [CM] more about emacs  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>...wrt to Rick's last message.
>I did this.
>
>now,  which cm   gives:
>/usr/local/bin/cm
>
>my .emacs file contains:
>(add-to-list 'load-path
>"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/slime/")
>(setq inferior-lisp-program "/opt/local/bin/openmcl") 
>(require 'slime)
>(slime-setup)
>(add-to-list 'load-path
>"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/cm-2.8.0")
>(load "etc/xemacs/cm.el")
>(enable-cm-commands)
>
>and I get the problem described before when doing M-cm
>from emacs:
>
>in bottom window:
>Undefined function CM called with arguments () .
>   [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]
>
>Restarts:
>  0: [CONTINUE] Retry applying CM to NIL.
>  1: [USE-VALUE] Apply specified function to NIL this
>time.
>  2: [STORE-VALUE] Specify a function to use as the
>definition of CM.
>  3: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
>  4: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this process
>  5: [ABORT] Kill this process
>
>Backtrace:
>  0: (CCL::CALL-CHECK-REGS 'CM)
> --more--                                             
>                                                      
>                  
>
>
>I'm using GNU Emacs 21.2.1   on mac os 10.4
>george
>
>
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jun 11 16:41:06 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (taube at uiuc.edu)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:41:06 -0500
Subject: [CM] more about emacs
Message-ID: <51c4887f.c6f21e6d.8198b00@expms6.cites.uiuc.edu>

not reall sure what is going wrong for you. try adding this to you .emacs file 

(setq inferior-lisp-program "cm")


then try M-x cm
if that doesnt work im not sure what else to try.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
>From: George Tourtellot <tourtelt at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: [CM] more about emacs  
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>
>...wrt to Rick's last message.
>I did this.
>
>now,  which cm   gives:
>/usr/local/bin/cm
>
>my .emacs file contains:
>(add-to-list 'load-path
>"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/slime/")
>(setq inferior-lisp-program "/opt/local/bin/openmcl") 
>(require 'slime)
>(slime-setup)
>(add-to-list 'load-path
>"/Volumes/250gig/Music/Apps/LISP/cm-2.8.0")
>(load "etc/xemacs/cm.el")
>(enable-cm-commands)
>
>and I get the problem described before when doing M-cm
>from emacs:
>
>in bottom window:
>Undefined function CM called with arguments () .
>   [Condition of type CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL]
>
>Restarts:
>  0: [CONTINUE] Retry applying CM to NIL.
>  1: [USE-VALUE] Apply specified function to NIL this
>time.
>  2: [STORE-VALUE] Specify a function to use as the
>definition of CM.
>  3: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
>  4: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this process
>  5: [ABORT] Kill this process
>
>Backtrace:
>  0: (CCL::CALL-CHECK-REGS 'CM)
> --more--                                             
>                                                      
>                  
>
>
>I'm using GNU Emacs 21.2.1   on mac os 10.4
>george
>
>
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From tourtelt at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 13:51:16 2006
From: tourtelt at yahoo.com (George Tourtellot)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CM] more about emacs
Message-ID: <20060612205116.99976.qmail@web54105.mail.yahoo.com>

good call, that worked.  thank you.


> --- taube at uiuc.edu wrote:
> 
> > not reall sure what is going wrong for you. try
> > adding this to you .emacs file 
> > 
> > (setq inferior-lisp-program "cm")
> > 
> > 
> > then try M-x cm
> > if that doesnt work im not sure what else to try.
> > 
> 
> 
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From joshp at u.washington.edu  Thu Jun 15 18:55:30 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:55:30 -0700
Subject: [CM] Slime and REPL
Message-ID: <DF042680-2D18-4B65-8510-099346253E59@u.washington.edu>

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but since it is  
mentioned in the CM manual, I thought I would ask:

When you evaluate an expression in a Lisp editing buffer the return  
value is printed in the mini-buffer at the bottom of the edit window,  
not in the REPL.

Is there any way to get the value of the expression to show up in the  
REPL?

Just curious.

Thanks,

Josh


******************************************
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joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
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From joshp at u.washington.edu  Fri Jun 16 14:50:34 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:50:34 -0700
Subject: [CM] CM, MIDI and tracks
Message-ID: <4E338CC0-4ED0-49B7-A981-00E309DC3801@u.washington.edu>

Hi everyone,

Is there a way to create tracks when writing out a MIDI files with  
CM? If so... where would I specify this? I saw midi-eot, but this  
doesn't seem to be doing quite what I would expect.

Thanks,

Josh

******************************************
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Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/




From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jun 17 07:00:11 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:00:11 -0500
Subject: [CM] Slime and REPL
In-Reply-To: <DF042680-2D18-4B65-8510-099346253E59@u.washington.edu>
References: <DF042680-2D18-4B65-8510-099346253E59@u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <9f2027ebe8315b5551e4e3ba20e80a23@uiuc.edu>

sprry no, not that i know of. this behavior is slime/emacs not cm. you 
can tell slime to print return values to a window instead of the 
minibuffer:
	M-x slime-ensure-typeout-frame

but im not sure if its any easier to work with.


On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:

> When you evaluate an expression in a Lisp editing buffer the return 
> value is printed in the mini-buffer at the bottom of the edit window, 
> not in the REPL.
> Is there any way to get the value of the expression to show up in the 
> REPL?
> Just curious.
> Thanks,
> Josh



From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jun 17 07:08:18 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:08:18 -0500
Subject: [CM] CM, MIDI and tracks
In-Reply-To: <4E338CC0-4ED0-49B7-A981-00E309DC3801@u.washington.edu>
References: <4E338CC0-4ED0-49B7-A981-00E309DC3801@u.washington.edu>
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no, only level 0 files are supported by 'events' because it is 
"anti-track", ie it sorts and mixes into a single timeline. but you can 
inport level-1 files and all the hooks for doing this are there for 
writing them are there. it would not be hard to write a function that 
simply dumped a list of seqs to different tracks. note that midi 
programs like Finale let you import each channel into a separate track 
so depending on the target app you may not need tracks.


On Jun 16, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Is there a way to create tracks when writing out a MIDI files with CM? 
> If so... where would I specify this? I saw midi-eot, but this doesn't 
> seem to be doing quite what I would expect.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> ******************************************
> Joshua Parmenter
> joshp at u.washington.edu
> Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and 
> Experimental Media
> Raitt Hall - University of Washington
> Seattle, Washington 98195
>
> http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>
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From kyburz at gmx.de  Sat Jun 17 12:37:17 2006
From: kyburz at gmx.de (Hanspeter Kyburz)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:37:17 +0200
Subject: [CM] Re: CM, MIDI and tracks
In-Reply-To: <20060617190002.7198.6044.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
References: <20060617190002.7198.6044.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <3501419F-6E5E-4D9D-BDB2-73B685272209@gmx.de>

Hi Rick,

i f you use more than 16 channels on multiple ports (i.e. Kontakt  
sampler)  it's not possible to seperate them when writing a midi-file  
which you want to edit with Sibelius or Finale. Therefore I think it  
would be most useful to be able to write multitrack midifiles.

Best,

Hanspeter

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> Subject: [CM] CM, MIDI and tracks
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Is there a way to create tracks when writing out a MIDI files with
> CM? If so... where would I specify this? I saw midi-eot, but this
> doesn't seem to be doing quite what I would expect.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> ******************************************
> Joshua Parmenter
> joshp at u.washington.edu
> Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and
> Experimental Media
> Raitt Hall - University of Washington
> Seattle, Washington 98195
>
> http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>
>
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> From: Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CM] Slime and REPL
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:00:11 -0500
> To: Joshua Parmenter <joshp at u.washington.edu>
>
> sprry no, not that i know of. this behavior is slime/emacs not cm. you
> can tell slime to print return values to a window instead of the
> minibuffer:
> 	M-x slime-ensure-typeout-frame
>
> but im not sure if its any easier to work with.
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:
>
>> When you evaluate an expression in a Lisp editing buffer the return
>> value is printed in the mini-buffer at the bottom of the edit window,
>> not in the REPL.
>> Is there any way to get the value of the expression to show up in the
>> REPL?
>> Just curious.
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Cc: Common Mail <cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
> From: Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CM] CM, MIDI and tracks
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:08:18 -0500
> To: Joshua Parmenter <joshp at u.washington.edu>
>
> no, only level 0 files are supported by 'events' because it is
> "anti-track", ie it sorts and mixes into a single timeline. but you  
> can
> inport level-1 files and all the hooks for doing this are there for
> writing them are there. it would not be hard to write a function that
> simply dumped a list of seqs to different tracks. note that midi
> programs like Finale let you import each channel into a separate track
> so depending on the target app you may not need tracks.
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Is there a way to create tracks when writing out a MIDI files with  
>> CM?
>> If so... where would I specify this? I saw midi-eot, but this doesn't
>> seem to be doing quite what I would expect.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> ******************************************
>> Joshua Parmenter
>> joshp at u.washington.edu
>> Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and
>> Experimental Media
>> Raitt Hall - University of Washington
>> Seattle, Washington 98195
>>
>> http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
>> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>>
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From joshp at u.washington.edu  Sat Jun 17 15:28:37 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:28:37 -0700
Subject: [CM] note problem?
Message-ID: <14C5A11F-B6EC-41F9-8665-FF1DDCA18AB0@u.washington.edu>

Hi everyone,

i just started exploring the mode objects and their usage in the note  
function... I'm a little confused by this output:

(define major (new mode :degrees '(c d e f g a b)))
(note 440.0 :hz t :through major) ;; => af4
(note 69 :through major) ;; => af4

Shouldn't this return a4?

Thanks,

Josh

******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/




From joshp at u.washington.edu  Sat Jun 17 15:32:34 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:32:34 -0700
Subject: [CM] nevermind...
Message-ID: <BBAF3CA0-D4D6-4576-8F88-A58C6A619E5B@u.washington.edu>

I just realized I needed to complete the octave.

(define major (new mode :degrees '(c d e f g a b c)))
(note 440.0 :hz t :through major) ;; => a4


Thanks,

Josh

******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/




From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jun 18 06:24:25 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:24:25 -0500
Subject: [CM] nevermind...
In-Reply-To: <BBAF3CA0-D4D6-4576-8F88-A58C6A619E5B@u.washington.edu>
References: <BBAF3CA0-D4D6-4576-8F88-A58C6A619E5B@u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <16e2991bdf923bb53786abed3e96f473@uiuc.edu>

you might look at Drew Krause's code, he has some interesting mode code:

http://www.wordecho.org/code/cmcode/cmusic.html



On Jun 17, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:

> I just realized I needed to complete the octave.
>
> (define major (new mode :degrees '(c d e f g a b c)))
> (note 440.0 :hz t :through major) ;; => a4
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> ******************************************
> Joshua Parmenter
> joshp at u.washington.edu
> Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and 
> Experimental Media
> Raitt Hall - University of Washington
> Seattle, Washington 98195
>
> http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jun 18 09:18:05 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:18:05 -0500
Subject: [CM] Re: CM, MIDI and tracks
In-Reply-To: <3501419F-6E5E-4D9D-BDB2-73B685272209@gmx.de>
References: <20060617190002.7198.6044.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu> <3501419F-6E5E-4D9D-BDB2-73B685272209@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <cdb0fc9ab900153097341818275f1f63@uiuc.edu>

ok, ill add a write-tracks function...

On Jun 17, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Hanspeter Kyburz wrote:

> Hi Rick,
>
> i f you use more than 16 channels on multiple ports (i.e. Kontakt 
> sampler)  it's not possible to seperate them when writing a midi-file 
> which you want to edit with Sibelius or Finale. Therefore I think it 
> would be most useful to be able to write multitrack midifiles.
>
> Best,
>
> Hanspeter



From joshp at u.washington.edu  Sun Jun 18 15:41:31 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:41:31 -0700
Subject: [CM] nevermind...
In-Reply-To: <16e2991bdf923bb53786abed3e96f473@uiuc.edu>
References: <BBAF3CA0-D4D6-4576-8F88-A58C6A619E5B@u.washington.edu> <16e2991bdf923bb53786abed3e96f473@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <12B444A7-553E-4114-B30E-55B0FC1A68FC@u.washington.edu>

Thanks Rick (and Drew)... very nice.

Josh

******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/


On Jun 18, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Rick Taube wrote:

> you might look at Drew Krause's code, he has some interesting mode  
> code:
>
> http://www.wordecho.org/code/cmcode/cmusic.html
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Joshua Parmenter wrote:
>
>> I just realized I needed to complete the octave.
>>
>> (define major (new mode :degrees '(c d e f g a b c)))
>> (note 440.0 :hz t :through major) ;; => a4
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> ******************************************
>> Joshua Parmenter
>> joshp at u.washington.edu
>> Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
>> Experimental Media
>> Raitt Hall - University of Washington
>> Seattle, Washington 98195
>>
>> http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
>> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cmdist mailing list
>> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
>> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>



From drkrause at mindspring.com  Mon Jun 19 13:06:21 2006
From: drkrause at mindspring.com (Drew Krause)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:06:21 -0400
Subject: [CM] Poisson in 'ran'
Message-ID: <449703BD.3060508@mindspring.com>

Hi,

The "ran" function never seems to return 0.0 for type Poisson, even with 
a low mean (try 0.3). Is this a bug (related to the factorial 
denominator, perhaps?) or am I not understanding this function correctly?

Thanks,
Drew



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jun 23 12:11:07 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:11:07 -0700
Subject: [CM] Snd 8.2
Message-ID: <20060623190920.M88819@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Snd 8.2

Most of the effort in this version of Snd went into the documentation.

sndins improvements thanks to Mike.

added fmviolin.clm (fm-violin demo from CLM)

added 'clear' and 'revert' buttons in the preferences dialog

added normalize-envelope in env.scm.

removed mus-make-error.

changed (the name of) after-apply-hook to after-apply-controls-hook


Checked: gtk 2.9.0|1|2|3, fth 0.8.18|19|20|21|22

Thanks: Pete Thomas, Esbien Stieb, Mike Scholz


2d10f57f114d84e37a31248c5a7956fcb916703e  libxm.tar.gz
959dff08171c98ab58cdfd35e2bf0a44c8885329  sndlib.tar.gz
fa0ea7b0a393997fe9d70f745afc05c25fe38a87  snd-8-2.src.rpm
427f7a969c6c879a759f9529681a6cae305e6006  snd-8-2.i386.rpm
28dca2452ba0fc0ac6e3c359b77fb497f6e2dddf  snd-8.2.tar.gz
f7f8afa01b6e17df4d12ee55cf8ce591589a16da  snd-8.tar.gz
e6228bc60e7db70d41de045079d1e040fff70a10  snd-8.tar.bz2



From erich.neuwirth at univie.ac.at  Wed Jun 28 12:42:41 2006
From: erich.neuwirth at univie.ac.at (Erich Neuwirth)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:42:41 +0200
Subject: [CM] Emacs question
Message-ID: <44A2DBB1.7010204@univie.ac.at>

I managed to install Common Music in Windows XP Pro,
and I even managed to get it to run in Emacs 22.0.50.1

There is one problem remaining.
To be able to start CM from inside Emacs, I need to do the following in
cm.el


    (setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/local/lisp/cm/bin/cm.bat")


The side effect is that when i to M-x slime,
also CM ist started, and not pure CLISP (as I would like to have)

The original code I replaced by the one lime above is

;; update default value of inferior-lisp-program to "cm.sh"
(if (or (not (boundp 'inferior-lisp-program))
	(not inferior-lisp-program)
	(equal inferior-lisp-program "lisp"))
    (setq inferior-lisp-program
	  (or (locate-library "bin/cm.sh" t)
	      "cm")))

Can you tell me how I need to modify this code
so M-x cm starts CM
but M-x slime starts CLISP?






-- 
Erich Neuwirth, Didactic Center for Computer Science
University of Vienna
Visit our SunSITE at http://sunsite.univie.ac.at
Phone: +43-1-4277-39464 Fax: +43-1-4277-9394



From andersvi at extern.uio.no  Thu Jun 29 07:23:05 2006
From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi at extern.uio.no)
Date: 29 Jun 2006 16:23:05 +0200
Subject: [CM] Emacs question
In-Reply-To: <44A2DBB1.7010204@univie.ac.at>
References: <44A2DBB1.7010204@univie.ac.at>
Message-ID: <copveqkavna.fsf@pauline.localdomain>

>>>>> "E" == Erich Neuwirth <erich.neuwirth at univie.ac.at> writes:

    E> Can you tell me how I need to modify this code so M-x cm starts
    E> CM but M-x slime starts CLISP?

(defun cm ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((inferior-lisp-program "/usr/local/lisp/cm/bin/cm.bat"))
    (slime)))

will make "M-x cm" start slime with the indicated program as an
inferior lisp, and "M-x slime" start a default lisp as usual



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From: c.mcclelland at qub.ac.uk (Christopher McClelland)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:16:02 +0100
Subject: [CM] [ANN] Studentship: SARC + HP
Message-ID: <1A92EE46-3AA3-4E22-B0D0-34A728CEF846@qub.ac.uk>


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From ego111 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 30 21:28:03 2006
From: ego111 at gmail.com (Evans Winner)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:28:03 -0700
Subject: [CM] After #\# is #\& an undefined dispatch macro character...?
Message-ID: <6e107fd50606302128x5c4034aes3bb0c9dcbfb97dc@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if anyone could explain what I need to do about this.  My
limited learning about lisp so far is not enough to help me here.  I
don't know anything about macros and such.  Hopefully the info below
is what would be needed to know the problem.... I don't think the
backtrace is helpful because it's all just calls to swank.  Anyway,
any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks.

-Evans


CM> *features*
(:CM :METACLASSES :ASDF :DIRKEY :RAWSOCK :REGEXP :SYSCALLS :I18N :LOOP
:COMPILER :CLOS :MOP :CLISP :ANSI-CL :COMMON-LISP :LISP=CL :INTERPRETER
:SOCKETS :GENERIC-STREAMS :LOGICAL-PATHNAMES :SCREEN :FFI :UNICODE
:BASE-CHAR=CHARACTER :PC386 :WIN32)
CM> (cm-version)
"Common Music 2.9.1"
CM> (new seq :name 'test)
#<seq "test">
CM> (object-name #&test)

READ from #1=#<INPUT STRING-INPUT-STREAM>: After #\# is #\& an
undefined dispatch macro character
   [Condition of type SYSTEM::SIMPLE-READER-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
  1: [SKIP] skip (CREATE-SWANK-SERVER 4005)
  2: [STOP] stop loading file C:\snd\clisp-2.38\full\swank-init.lisp
  3: [ABORT] ABORT

Backtrace:
  0: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::EVAL-REGION>
  1: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::LISTENER-EVAL-1>
  2: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION #:|281 283 (DEFINTERFACE
CALL-WITH-SYNTAX-HOOKS (FN) ...)-32-3-1-1|>
  3: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::CALL-WITH-BUFFER-SYNTAX>
  4: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK:LISTENER-EVAL>
  5: #<SYSTEM-FUNCTION EVAL>
  6: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::EVAL-FOR-EMACS-1>
  7: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION #:|480 485 (DEFINTERFACE
CALL-WITH-DEBUGGER-HOOK (HOOK FUN) ...)-53-3-1-1|>
  8: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::EVAL-FOR-EMACS>
  9: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::READ-FROM-EMACS>
10: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::HANDLE-REQUEST-1>
11: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION #:|480 485 (DEFINTERFACE
CALL-WITH-DEBUGGER-HOOK (HOOK FUN) ...)-53-3-1-1|>
12: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::CALL-WITH-CONNECTION-1>
13: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::CALL-WITH-REDIRECTED-IO>
14: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::MAYBE-CALL-WITH-IO-REDIRECTION>
15: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::CALL-WITH-CONNECTION>
16: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::HANDLE-REQUEST>
17: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SIMPLE-SERVE-REQUESTS-2>
18: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SIMPLE-SERVE-REQUESTS>
19: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SERVE-REQUESTS>
20: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SERVE-CONNECTION>
21: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SETUP-SERVER-SERVE>
22: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK::SETUP-SERVER>
23: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SWANK:CREATE-SWANK-SERVER>
24: #<SYSTEM-FUNCTION EVAL>
25: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SYSTEM::EVAL-LOADED-FORM-LOW>
26: #<COMPILED-FUNCTION SYSTEM::EVAL-LOADED-FORM>


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