one last potential "gotcha": the binary download of openmcl 1.0 has a bug in its threads support -- if you plan to run rts in openmcl 1.0 then you will have to build openmcl 1.0 from its cvs sources. openmcl 0.14.3 should work fine. >> I would like to get this running with all the bells and whistles... >> so please advise. >> Thank you, >> Steven Kallstrom