From johannes.quint at web.de  Mon Jan  2 09:56:25 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:56:25 +0100
Subject: [CM] portmidi
Message-ID: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de>

i have problems with portmidi.
after installing and trying out

(portmidi-open :output 3 :input #f)

i get:

? > Error in process listener(1): open-io: no portmidi devices 
available.
 > While executing: #<STANDARD-METHOD OPEN-IO (PORTMIDI-STREAM T)>
 > Type :POP to abort.
Type :? for other options.
1 >

(i have installed "libportmidi.dylib" as "libportmidi.dylib" as 
described...)
thanks for help,
johannes
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jan  2 10:27:13 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:27:13 -0600
Subject: [CM] portmidi
In-Reply-To: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de>
References: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de>
Message-ID: <D8CB2ADA-79FD-4CFB-8B6D-B674FD233ACA@uiuc.edu>

Do you actually have devices available?
try doing:
	(pm:GetDeviceInfo)
and see if portmidi thinks you have active devices.  For example on  
my machine I get:

         ? (pprint (pm:getDeviceInfo))

         ((:ID 0 :NAME "IAC Driver: Bus 1" :TYPE :INPUT :OPEN NIL)
          (:ID 1 :NAME "828mk2: Midi Port" :TYPE :INPUT :OPEN NIL)
          (:ID 2 :NAME "IAC Driver: Bus 1" :TYPE :OUTPUT :OPEN NIL)
          (:ID 3 :NAME "828mk2: Midi Port" :TYPE :OUTPUT :OPEN NIL))

If getdeviceinfo returns nothing, then use /Applications/Utilities/ 
Audio MIDI Setup.app   and add them (quit lisp first). Sorry im not  
sure what to do on linux...

If getdeviceinfo returns a list of devices then its a bug in CM,  
please send me your list of devices.


On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Johannes Quint wrote:
> i have problems with portmidi.
> after installing and trying out
>
> (portmidi-open :output 3 :input #f)
>
> i get:
>
> ? > Error in process listener(1): open-io: no portmidi devices  
> available.
> > While executing: #<STANDARD-METHOD OPEN-IO (PORTMIDI-STREAM T)>
> > Type :POP to abort.
> Type :? for other options.
> 1 >
>
> (i have installed "libportmidi.dylib" as "libportmidi.dylib" as  
> described...)
> thanks for help,
> johannes



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jan  2 12:00:58 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:00:58 -0600
Subject: [CM] portmidi
In-Reply-To: <22ce329a806c0d1dddd58011871d97db@web.de>
References: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de> <D8CB2ADA-79FD-4CFB-8B6D-B674FD233ACA@uiuc.edu> <22ce329a806c0d1dddd58011871d97db@web.de>
Message-ID: <15d085f477e4e7d046a12d7cfe949115@uiuc.edu>

> (the whole thing - audio midi setup - seems not to work with the 
> quicktime synth,
> bad for me, because i've no external synth in the moment, but this is 
> no cm problem...)
>
> thanks for your quick answer, johannes
>

for access to quicktime you can use midishare instead of portmidi 
(midishare has built-in quicktime support). after installing midishre, 
use their msDrivers app to assign an output port to Quicktime, then 
quit msDrivers and test your port connection with msConnect. Once you 
know you can play quicktime with msConnect, first quit and then start 
CM and do:
	(use-system :midishare)
If the midishare port number for Quicktime is higher than 0 you will 
access it by setting  midi :channel values greater than 15.
for example, if QT is midishare port=0 then use :channel 0-15, if 
port=1 using :channel 16-31, port=2 is :channel 32-47
and so on. For example assuming you want to send to channel 0 of port 1 
do:

output (new midi :time (now) :channel 16 ...)



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jan  2 12:24:06 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:24:06 -0600
Subject: [CM] portmidi
In-Reply-To: <365c9e9f26accdd3f2f597d403c4e6cf@web.de>
References: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de> <D8CB2ADA-79FD-4CFB-8B6D-B674FD233ACA@uiuc.edu> <22ce329a806c0d1dddd58011871d97db@web.de> <15d085f477e4e7d046a12d7cfe949115@uiuc.edu> <365c9e9f26accdd3f2f597d403c4e6cf@web.de>
Message-ID: <c1e2a7adc01fdc1d282d2d08171574bc@uiuc.edu>

sorry i fixed this already (today) in rev 1.3 of midishare.lisp. the 
error happens because the most recent cffi finds two bugs in my api 
that eariler cffi versions did not find

cvs is already updated but it may take several hours to migrate to 
anonymous cvs access. at that point if you have already installed it 
via cvs you do:
	cd /path/to/midishare
	cvs update
otherwise first login to cm's sourceforge cvs and then do
	cvs checkout midishare



On Jan 2, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Johannes Quint wrote:

>
> Am 02.01.2006 um 21:00 schrieb Rick Taube:
>
>>> (the whole thing - audio midi setup - seems not to work with the 
>>> quicktime synth,
>>> bad for me, because i've no external synth in the moment, but this 
>>> is no cm problem...)
>>>
>>> thanks for your quick answer, johannes
>>>
>>
>> for access to quicktime you can use midishare instead of portmidi 
>> (midishare has built-in quicktime support). after installing 
>> midishre, use their msDrivers app to assign an output port to 
>> Quicktime, then quit msDrivers and test your port connection with 
>> msConnect. Once you know you can play quicktime with msConnect, first 
>> quit and then start CM and do:
>> 	(use-system :midishare)
>> If the midishare port number for Quicktime is higher than 0 you will 
>> access it by setting  midi :channel values greater than 15.
>> for example, if QT is midishare port=0 then use :channel 0-15, if 
>> port=1 using :channel 16-31, port=2 is :channel 32-47
>> and so on. For example assuming you want to send to channel 0 of port 
>> 1 do:
>>
>> output (new midi :time (now) :channel 16 ...)
>>
>>



From taube at uiuc.edu  Mon Jan  2 12:52:42 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:52:42 -0600
Subject: [CM] beautiful new icon set
Message-ID: <17b20cbc9257df3f99b334d40feede56@uiuc.edu>

BTW, tobias kunze has update his logo for CM and generated a beautiful 
new set of application icons (128x128-16x16) -- check them out here!

	http://pinhead.music.uiuc.edu/~hkt/icons/icons.html

To see it correctly on a mac consider setting your display's gamma to 
2.2 first...




From rbastian at free.fr  Tue Jan  3 02:57:09 2006
From: rbastian at free.fr (=?iso-8859-15?q?Ren=E9=20Bastian?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:57:09 +0100
Subject: [CM] cmn, clisp 2005
Message-ID: <06010311570901.00754@rbastian>

Hi,

I installed CMN on a new computer with the actual
clisp (Steingold, Haible). CMN did not work ...

I tried to compile the original *.lisp files

clisp -c ...

but it failes when I type : 

clisp -c cmn0.lisp

NB : CMN works fine on the older clisp (Haible, Steingold).
What shall I do ?

Thanks,

-- 
Ren? Bastian
http://www.musiques-rb.org




From rbastian at free.fr  Tue Jan  3 02:57:16 2006
From: rbastian at free.fr (=?iso-8859-15?q?Ren=E9=20Bastian?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:57:16 +0100
Subject: [CM] cmn, u accent grave
Message-ID: <06010311571602.00754@rbastian>

Hello Bill Schottstaedt,

(d4 e (l "dans" "o\\371" (font-name "ISO-Times-Roman")))
gives an "?"

and 

(gs4 e (ltext "o\\371" (font-name "ISO-Times-Roman")))

gives the "?" (which i want).

What is wrong ?

-- 
Ren? Bastian
http://www.musiques-rb.org




From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan  3 03:14:27 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:14:27 -0600
Subject: [CM] portmidi
In-Reply-To: <e2c8c89e01d0d8a8a5bcffcbb0df5dfe@web.de>
References: <6a493c8bb2b38e2b41be8d1417bfad37@web.de> <D8CB2ADA-79FD-4CFB-8B6D-B674FD233ACA@uiuc.edu> <22ce329a806c0d1dddd58011871d97db@web.de> <15d085f477e4e7d046a12d7cfe949115@uiuc.edu> <365c9e9f26accdd3f2f597d403c4e6cf@web.de> <f8f58a1034714cb9294f7bc546bb5d82@uiuc.edu> <e2c8c89e01d0d8a8a5bcffcbb0df5dfe@web.de>
Message-ID: <62b17a844c919a5a34cfb72c34c74d1b@uiuc.edu>

> i've still problems with midishare. when i execute the example in the 
> dictionary, i get:

weird, it works just fine for me. i dont understand that error message 
at all!
before going further, please:

1.  check to make sure you do NOT have a ccl/darwin-headers/midishare  
folder. if you do, archive it and then delete that folder

2. delete your existing cffi installation and update to a newer cffi. 
Im using cffi-051229/

3. IMPORTANT: once you install a new CFFI be sure to delete your 
/Applications/lisp/midishare/midishare.dfsl before trying (use-system 
:midishare) again.


then start cm and try again. If you get the same error, please do
	(:b t)
in the error break and send me the full backtrace.

--rick



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan  3 06:08:34 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:08:34 -0800
Subject: [CM] cmn, clisp 2005
In-Reply-To: <06010311570901.00754@rbastian>
References: <06010311570901.00754@rbastian>
Message-ID: <20060103140531.M96513@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I don't know what clisp -c is for -- I always start clisp, then load "cmn-all.lisp".
I just tried it in linux (cmn 2.36), and all went as expected.  See README.clm
at the end of the file for current status of both cmn and clm.




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan  3 06:23:52 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:23:52 -0800
Subject: [CM] cmn, u accent grave
In-Reply-To: <06010311571602.00754@rbastian>
References: <06010311571602.00754@rbastian>
Message-ID: <20060103142254.M53102@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I assume the "l" function is from jimmy.cmn and refers to lyrics.lisp?
It currently has the Times-Roman font built-in, so probably it is
ignoring the ISO-Times-Roman argument.



From wsack at buffalo.edu  Tue Jan  3 08:38:59 2006
From: wsack at buffalo.edu (bill sack)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:38:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] mixing cmn and midi data in cm-2.7?
Message-ID: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu>

hello and happy 2006!
way back in cm-2.4 days i could output cmn data in parallel with midi 
output and it would get passed along when the events were output to a 
cmn file - e.g. adding dynamic marks at significant amplitude changes 
like this:
...
(output (new midi start (+ ahead (now)) keynum tone
             duration riv amplitude amp channel ch))
         (when (not (eq dyn old-dyn))
           (output (new cmn time (now) channel ch
                data (list dyn))))
...
['dyn' being a dynamic marking ('ff, 'mp, etc.) determined through a 
(amp->dyn) lookup function]

when i tried something similar in cm-2.7:
...
output (new midi :time (now)
                           :keynum (nth p notes)
                           :duration rhy
                           :amplitude (max amp 0)
                           :channel stf)
               if (not (eq dyn old-dyn))
               sprout (new cmn :time (now)
                           :staff stf
                           :data `(,dyn))
...
trying to output this to a cmn file throws this error (in cmucl-19c, of 
course):
No matching method for the generic function
#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION CMN::ODB-ONSET (2) {58F361B1}>, when called with
arguments (#<CMN::SCORE-OBJECT-LIST {58393395}>).
   [Condition of type PCL::NO-APPLICABLE-METHOD-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [CONTINUE] Retry call to :FUNCTION.
  1: [ABORT   ] Return to Top-Level.

Debug  (type H for help)

("DEFMETHOD NO-APPLICABLE-METHOD (T)" #<unused-arg> #<unused-arg>
 #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION CMN::ODB-ONSET (2) {58F361B1}>
 (#<CMN::SCORE-OBJECT-LIST {58393395}>))

if i change the (new cmn ... so it has a :note and a :duration there's 
no error, but the output contains two notes (the midi and the cmn) every 
time the condition is met.

surely there's a more elegant and general way to do this? i'd rather not 
have to change the output function of my algorithm depending upon 
whether i want to see something (.cmn) or hear it (midi).

thanks in advance for all help.

bill



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan  3 10:59:18 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:59:18 -0600
Subject: [CM] mixing cmn and midi data in cm-2.7?
In-Reply-To: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu>
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu>

> ...
> trying to output this to a cmn file throws this error (in  
> cmucl-19c, of course):
> No matching method for the generic function
> #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION CMN::ODB-ONSET (2) {58F361B1}>, when  
> called with
> arguments (#<CMN::SCORE-OBJECT-LIST {58393395}>).
>   [Condition of type PCL::NO-APPLICABLE-METHOD-ERROR]

if you send me a little test example ill try to find out what is  
going wrong. it appears to be sending someting over to cmn but i cant  
tell much from this error message.

> if i change the (new cmn ... so it has a :note and a :duration  
> there's no error, but the output contains two notes (the midi and  
> the cmn) every time the condition is met.

i take it then that outputting cmn objects without a duration never  
work?

> surely there's a more elegant and general way to do this? i'd  
> rather not have to change the output function of my algorithm  
> depending upon whether i want to see something (.cmn) or hear it  
> (midi).

you shoudlnt need midi objects at all, cmn objects with :note  
and :duration should output to midifiles ok. doest that not work either?




From perticone at infovia.com.ar  Tue Jan  3 13:16:27 2006
From: perticone at infovia.com.ar (M. Perticone)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:16:27 -0300
Subject: [CM] acl or clisp under winxp
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu>
 <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <001601c610aa$f6491ff0$f416fea9@piii>

hello listers,

is anyone running cm under acl 7.0/winxp ? any advice or trick i should know
beforehand?
is it a better choice or should i stick to clisp?
thanks for any info,
marcelo




From typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au  Tue Jan  3 19:32:38 2006
From: typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au (Jonathan Murphy)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:32:38 -0500
Subject: [CM] troubles with ladspa menu
Message-ID: <43BB41D6.4010901@yahoo.com.au>

Hi folks,

I'm trying to get the ladspa menu working in snd, but there seems to be 
a bracket missing in ladspa.scm:

    Unbound variable: call-with-new-thread
    In unknown file:
       ?: 0* [primitive-load-path "ladspa.scm"]
    In /opt/common/snd-7/ladspa.scm:
     838: 1* (call-with-new-thread (lambda () (if # # ...))
    (install-ladspa-menues) ...)


I've been going through the file, but I'm new to lisp and dialects and I 
can't find it. It's somewhere in here (I think):

    (call-with-new-thread
     (lambda ()

       (if (and (provided? 'snd-lrdf)
            (not lrdf-is-inited))
           (begin
         (eval-c "-llrdf"
             
             "#include <lrdf.h>"
             
             (proto->public
              "void lrdf_init();"
              "void lrdf_cleanup();"
              "int lrdf_read_file(const char *uri);"
              "char* lrdf_add_preset(const char *source, const char
    *label, unsigned long id, lrdf_defaults *vals);"
              "void lrdf_remove_matches(lrdf_statement *pattern);"
              "void lrdf_remove_uri_matches(const char *uri);"
              "void lrdf_rebuild_caches();"
              "int lrdf_export_by_source(const char *src, const char
    *file);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_match_multi(lrdf_statement *patterns);"
              "lrdf_statement *lrdf_matches(lrdf_statement *pattern);"
              "lrdf_statement *lrdf_one_match(lrdf_statement *pattern);"
              "int lrdf_exists_match(lrdf_statement *pattern);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_all_superclasses(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_subclasses(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_all_subclasses(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_instances(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_all_instances(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_statement *lrdf_all_statements();"
              "void lrdf_free_uris(lrdf_uris *u);"
              "void lrdf_free_statements(lrdf_statement *s);"
              "char *lrdf_get_setting_metadata(const char *uri, const
    char *element);"
              "char *lrdf_get_default_uri(unsigned long id);"
              "lrdf_uris *lrdf_get_setting_uris(unsigned long id);"
              "unsigned long lrdf_get_uid(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_defaults *lrdf_get_setting_values(const char *uri);"
              "lrdf_defaults *lrdf_get_scale_values(unsigned long id,
    unsigned long port);"
              "void lrdf_free_setting_values(lrdf_defaults *def);"
              "char *lrdf_get_label(const char *uri);")
             
             (public
              (<int> lrdf_defaults_count (lambda ((<lrdf_defaults*> defs))
                               (return defs->count)))
             
              (<int> lrdf_defaults_pid (lambda ((<lrdf_defaults*> defs)
                                (<int> n))
                             (return defs->items[n].pid)))
             
              (<float> lrdf_defaults_value (lambda ((<lrdf_defaults*> defs)
                                (<int> n))
                             (return defs->items[n].value)))
             
              (<int> lrdf_uris_count (lambda ((<lrdf_uris*> uris))
                           (return uris->count)))
             
              (<char*> lrdf_uris_get_item (lambda ((<lrdf_uris*> uris)
                                   (<int> n))
                            (return uris->items[n])))
             
              (<char*> LADSPA-BASE (lambda ()
                         (return LADSPA_BASE)))))
         
         (lrdf_init)
         (for-each (lambda (path)
                 (catch #t
                    (lambda ()
                      (let* ((dir (opendir path))
                         (entry (readdir dir)))
                    (while (not (eof-object? entry))
                           (yield)
                           (if (and (not (string=? "." entry))
                            (not (string=? ".." entry)))
                           (lrdf_read_file (string-append "file://" path
    "/" entry)))
                           (set! entry (readdir dir)))
                    (closedir dir)))
                    (lambda (key . args)
                      #f)))
               (string-split    (if (getenv "LADSPA_RDF_PATH")
                            (getenv "LADSPA_RDF_PATH")
                           
    "/usr/local/share/ladspa/rdf:/usr/share/ladspa/rdf")
                        #\:))
         
         (set! lrdf-is-inited #t)))


       (install-ladspa-menues)
       (set! ladspa-not-initialized #f))
     
     (lambda ai
       (c-display "Thread-error2: " ai)))


If anyone can help me with this I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Jonathan.



From wsack at buffalo.edu  Wed Jan  4 03:16:13 2006
From: wsack at buffalo.edu (bill sack)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:16:13 -0500
Subject: [CM] mixing cmn and midi data in cm-2.7?
In-Reply-To: <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu>
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu> <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <43BBAE7D.4060204@buffalo.edu>

Rick Taube wrote:

> you shoudlnt need midi objects at all, cmn objects with :note  and 
> :duration should output to midifiles ok. doest that not work either?


yeah, cmn object outputs to midi, but the amplitude data is lost (all 
velocities in the resulting file are set to 64) - i'm willing to change 
my way of working if necessary, but like all old things, i'm set in my 
ways ... creak, creak.

here's a super-simple example that throws the same error:
(define (tester)
  (process while (< (now) 30)
           for note = (+ 60 (random 20))
           for amp = (random 1.0)
           for chan = 0
           for rhy = (pick .25 .75)
           output (new midi :time (now) :keynum note
                       :duration rhy :amplitude amp
                       :channel chan)
           if (< .8 amp)
           sprout (new cmn :time (now)
                       :staff chan
                       :data '(ff))
           wait rhy))
;(events (tester) "/tmp/tester.midi") = happy
;(events (tester) "/tmp/tester.cmn") = error



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Jan  4 04:10:47 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:10:47 -0800
Subject: [CM] troubles with ladspa menu
In-Reply-To: <43BB41D6.4010901@yahoo.com.au>
References: <43BB41D6.4010901@yahoo.com.au>
Message-ID: <20060104120813.M66399@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

call-with-new-thread has been in Guile since at least version 1.3.4, but
you need to build Guile with threads support.  Was your version built
with --disable-linuxthreads or some such switch?  If you run guile
itself, I think you'll get the same error:

guile> call-with-new-thread
<unnamed port>: In expression call-with-new-thread:
<unnamed port>: Unbound variable: call-with-new-thread
ABORT: (unbound-variable)




From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jan  4 06:44:18 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:44:18 -0600
Subject: [CM] mixing cmn and midi data in cm-2.7?
In-Reply-To: <43BBAE7D.4060204@buffalo.edu>
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu> <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu> <43BBAE7D.4060204@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <94D7376F-C4BC-4561-8516-C4F8C6ABD343@uiuc.edu>

ok i can trigger that error using a cmn-only example that makes the  
same calls that cm makes. so it a problem with either add-data-1 or  
finish-clm-input or how im using them:

(progn
   (load "/Lisp/cmn/cmn-all.lisp")
   (setq scr (cmn::init-clm-input))
   (setq stf (cmn::add-staff scr "vln" nil))
   (cmn::add-note-to-staff scr stf 0 1 440)
   (cmn::add-data-1 scr stf (cmn::engorge (list cmn::ff)))
   (cmn::finish-clm-input scr nil nil)
   )


 > Error in process listener(1): No applicable method for args:
 >                                (#<CMN::SCORE-OBJECT-LIST #x87ECD16>)
 >                                to #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION  
CMN::ODB-ONSET #x856AEF6>
 > While executing: #<CCL::STANDARD-KERNEL-METHOD NO-APPLICABLE- 
METHOD (T)>
 > Type :POP to abort.
Type :? for other options.
1 >



From typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au  Wed Jan  4 08:45:57 2006
From: typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au (Jonathan Murphy)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:45:57 -0500
Subject: [CM] troubles with ladspa menu
In-Reply-To: <20060104120813.M66399@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <43BB41D6.4010901@yahoo.com.au> <20060104120813.M66399@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <43BBFBC5.7050906@yahoo.com.au>

Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

>call-with-new-thread has been in Guile since at least version 1.3.4, but
>you need to build Guile with threads support.  Was your version built
>with --disable-linuxthreads or some such switch?  If you run guile
>itself, I think you'll get the same error:
>
>guile> call-with-new-thread
><unnamed port>: In expression call-with-new-thread:
><unnamed port>: Unbound variable: call-with-new-thread
>ABORT: (unbound-variable)
>
>
>
>  
>
Thanks for your swift response, not to mention for snd and clm 
themselves. Snd is working as hoped, all the ladspa goodies easily 
accessible. Perhaps a line could be added to the readme to the effect 
that Guile needs to be compiled --with-threads, as the default is to 
build without?
I have one other question/problem:
Regarding clm. My lisp is cmucl-19c. I can't get definstrument working 
at all. I understand that cmucl can't deal with multiple instances of 
definstrument, but it complains about being unable to find the lisp 
source file even with the example "simp" from the manual.

    Error in function (:MACRO DEFINSTRUMENT):
       oops -- I can't find SIMP's lisp source file!
       [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR]


Sorry to bother you with this, as from what I've gleaned from googling 
mailing list discussions it's a cmucl bug and not a problem with clm at 
all. Just wondering if there's a workaround. I'm using the ready-rolled 
cmucl binaries, thus far I've been unable to compile from source, and I 
couldn't get sbcl to load all.lisp (or to run in SLIME).

Thanks,
Jonathan.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Jan  4 10:22:56 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:22:56 -0800
Subject: [CM] troubles with ladspa menu
In-Reply-To: <43BBFBC5.7050906@yahoo.com.au>
References: <43BB41D6.4010901@yahoo.com.au> <20060104120813.M66399@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <43BBFBC5.7050906@yahoo.com.au>
Message-ID: <20060104182002.M8336@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

It's only a few files, like ladspa.scm, that need threads -- I think 
I can add a warning to them -- there's probably an entry in the
*features* list I can check for.  

Did you compile the instrument before trying to load it in cmucl?
If you load the lisp source code, I think that's the error you get.
(You need to compile it to force the "run" macro to expand).




From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jan  4 10:46:52 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:46:52 -0600
Subject: [CM] acl or clisp under winxp
In-Reply-To: <001601c610aa$f6491ff0$f416fea9@piii>
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu> <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu> <001601c610aa$f6491ff0$f416fea9@piii>
Message-ID: <2EEB2BFA-821A-4526-996F-E64A7A815D0E@uiuc.edu>

Cm should build in acl on windows. Unless you are using CLM Im not  
sure there is a real advantage to acl over clisp.
FYI, as of a week ago, when you build cm on windows in allegro or  
clisp cm will generate a CM.BAT file in the bin directory (if the bat  
file does not already exist). The bat file should hopefully start up  
CM in the lisp you used with absolute pathnames to the executables .  
The idea is that you can then use the bat file on your desktop or  
invoke it from emacs.  its untested , let me know if it works or not...


On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:16 PM, M. Perticone wrote:

> hello listers,
>
> is anyone running cm under acl 7.0/winxp ? any advice or trick i  
> should know
> beforehand?
> is it a better choice or should i stick to clisp?
> thanks for any info,
> marcelo
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au  Wed Jan  4 11:37:22 2006
From: typetosmurky at yahoo.com.au (Jonathan Murphy)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:37:22 -0500
Subject: [CM] troubles with ladspa menu
Message-ID: <43BC23F2.6050702@yahoo.com.au>

Aha! Now I get it. Thankyou.
Jonathan.



From rs at gorf.hb.shuttle.de  Thu Jan  5 04:44:00 2006
From: rs at gorf.hb.shuttle.de (Rolf Steinort)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:44:00 +0000
Subject: [CM] Finding (and deleting) gaps with snd
Message-ID: <200601051244.00959.rs@gorf.hb.shuttle.de>

Hi,

I use snd to edit recorded audio streams. I am stuck (due to LISP 
illiteracy) with one problem:


From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jan  5 07:25:55 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:25:55 -0800
Subject: [CM] Finding (and deleting) gaps with snd
In-Reply-To: <200601051244.00959.rs@gorf.hb.shuttle.de>
References: <200601051244.00959.rs@gorf.hb.shuttle.de>
Message-ID: <43BD3A83.2060505@ccrma>

By "zero" do you mean zero-crossing?  There are several functions to search for these
(find-zero in extsnd.html for example) -- you could use the crossing locations to
set the limits on (scale-by 0.0 ...).  If you're looking for sections without any
real signal, perhaps map-silence in extsnd.html will help -- it detects portions
that look like silence, then either squelches whatever hiss is there, or deletes
that section altogether.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jan  5 07:41:18 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:41:18 -0600
Subject: [CM] mixing cmn and midi data in cm-2.7?
In-Reply-To: <43BBAE7D.4060204@buffalo.edu>
References: <43BAA8A3.9020900@buffalo.edu> <AF5DA2E4-857D-464E-ACC3-580FC7F8800F@uiuc.edu> <43BBAE7D.4060204@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <ed206a2229c2aebb06bc65cce899be5a@uiuc.edu>

ok i think the problem is that your FF cmn object is not a note so you 
are specifying a dynamic "outside" of a note context. so maybe it 
should be someting like this

(define (tester)
   (process while (< (now) 30)
            for note = (+ 60 (random 20))
            for amp = (random 1.0)
            for chan = 0
            for rhy = (pick .25 .75)
            if (< .8 amp)
            output (new cmn :time (now) :note note
                        :staff chan :data '(ff)
                        :duration rhy)
            else
            output (new midi :time (now) :keynum note
                        :duration rhy :amplitude amp
                        :channel chan)

            wait rhy))


its been several years since ive looked at this code -- i wonder now 
why the CMN object coudlnt simply have an :amplitude value so you 
wouldnt need midi notes at all.




From jjfoerch at earthlink.net  Thu Jan  5 15:25:07 2006
From: jjfoerch at earthlink.net (John J Foerch)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:25:07 -0500
Subject: [CM] pclass and mathematics of harmony
Message-ID: <E1EueTj-00022q-00@pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello,

I'm a cmn newbie intrigued by the idea of using Lisp to
generate music.  My goal is to make functions that can be
used in a cmn score that will generate or modify notes,
using the mathematics of harmony.  Here is a method I am
workin on, that adjusts the cclass of a note object:

(defmethod cclass-shift ((obj note) (amt integer))

  "Shift OBJ note up or down AMT tones in the current key.
For example, amt=1 shifts the note up by an interval of a
second, and amt=7 shifts it up by an octave.  Still need to
work out setting the pitch correctly.  "

  (let* ((new-cclass    (mod   (+ (cclass obj) amt) 7))
         (octave-adjust (floor (+ (cclass obj) amt) 7))
         (new-octave    (+ (octave obj) octave-adjust))
         (pclass (case new-cclass
                   (0 0)
                   (1 2)
                   (2 4)
                   (3 5)
                   (4 7)
                   (5 9)
                   (6 11)
                   )))
    (setf (cclass obj) new-cclass)
    (setf (octave obj) new-octave)
    (setf (pitch obj) pclass)
    obj))


I use this method in a score, like:

    (cclass-shift (note a2) 1)

My question concerns the setting of the pclass.  To do it
correctly I need to know the key signature accidental for
the line of the new cclass.  Is the key signature data
available to a lowly little note on the staff?  If not, is
this a worthy and possible feature request?  Or is there a
better approach to the problem than this?

Thank you for any help!

John J Foerch





From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jan  5 19:26:20 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:26:20 -0600
Subject: [CM] cvs unstable
Message-ID: <c0ee36443671cb96b9b805bd111a0049@uiuc.edu>

just a warning that cm's cvs tree will be unstable for the next week or 
so. if you update dont be surprised if things stop working. ill send a 
message around when its "safe" to do a update.

--rick



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jan  6 03:55:16 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 03:55:16 -0800
Subject: [CM] pclass and mathematics of harmony
In-Reply-To: <E1EueTj-00022q-00@pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1EueTj-00022q-00@pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20060106115407.M44396@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Perhaps transpose.lisp will help -- the key signature is found with
key-p while scanning the staff data list. 




From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Fri Jan  6 08:53:05 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (ml13 at onlinehome.de)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:53:05 +0100
Subject: [CM] process sync...
Message-ID: <D27BC192-28D8-47F0-93FA-9CF46D252A31@onlinehome.de>

Hi,

I am quite new to cm and trying to find out the right way to make  
separate processes communicate with another. My goal is to have a  
process that controls say amplitude of another process (by setting a  
global variable and not actually outputting anything) allowing them  
to have independent rhythm.

I was trying to do something like this:

(defvar *amp*)

(events (list (my-amp-process) (my-main-process)) "test.mid")

Well, this basically works :), but I was hoping that in the case of  
equal time offsets of the two processes the amp-process would be  
processed always _first_, because of its first position in the list.

Well, this does not always seem to be the case and I should have  
checked before, I know, but now I am just wondering how to go about a  
problem like this and I suppose there must be another approach, or  
maybe still a way to ensure a fixed order of invocations of the WRITE- 
EVENT method for equal object times???

BTW: I should have mentioned this:
I subclassed event and created my own WRITE-EVENT method that  
processes the slots of the event somewhat specially. If a slot  
contains a function object, this function will be called (and this  
function, of course, looks like: #'(lambda () *amp*) )

I hope these explanations make sense and my intention is understood,  
I'd be very curious to have a hint how other people go about this  
(and I suppose this must be quite a common procedure...)

Thanks for listening,
cheers,

	Kilian Sprotte





From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jan  7 08:29:01 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:29:01 -0600
Subject: [CM] process sync...
In-Reply-To: <D27BC192-28D8-47F0-93FA-9CF46D252A31@onlinehome.de>
References: <D27BC192-28D8-47F0-93FA-9CF46D252A31@onlinehome.de>
Message-ID: <66d4bcaddf3c718b35405d593291d7d2@uiuc.edu>

Hi

> Well, this basically works :), but I was hoping that in the case of 
> equal time offsets of the two processes the amp-process would be 
> processed always _first_, because of its first position in the list.

the scheduling queue is sorted by time, if two processes always have 
the same timelines then they should always be processed in the order in 
which they originally entered the queue:

(events (list (process repeat 5 do (format t "~%A: ~s" (now)) wait .1)
               (process repeat 5 do (format t "~%B: ~s" (now)) wait .1))
         nil)
A: 0
B: 0
A: 0.1
B: 0.1
A: 0.2
B: 0.2
A: 0.3
B: 0.3
A: 0.4
B: 0.4
NIL

if processes do not have identical timelines then of course they will 
be processed "out of order" with respect to their original positions in 
the queue once their timelines start to differ, but notice that when 
the timelines happen to line up then A is "before" B:

(events (list (process repeat 5 do (format t "~%A: ~s" (now)) wait .2)
               (process repeat 5 do (format t "~%B: ~s" (now)) wait .1))
         nil)
A: 0
B: 0
B: 0.1
A: 0.2
B: 0.2
B: 0.3
A: 0.4
B: 0.4
A: 0.6
A: 0.8
NIL

> Well, this does not always seem to be the case and I should have 
> checked before, I know, but now I am just wondering how to go about a 
> problem like this and I suppose there must be another approach, or 
> maybe still a way to ensure a fixed order of invocations of the 
> WRITE-EVENT method for equal object times???

it should work like this, you will have to send me a (simple) example 
of it not working for me to see if there is a bug or not.

> I hope these explanations make sense and my intention is understood, 
> I'd be very curious to have a hint how other people go about this (and 
> I suppose this must be quite a common procedure...)

You do not need global variables to share state beween processes. this 
example creates a lexical environment for two processes to share; 
notice that its also possible for a fucntion to return a list of 
processes: in this example the first process sets and uses the lexical 
variables and the second one uses them:

(defun master-and-slave (reps)
   (let (amp key stop) ; look Ma, no globals!
     (list
      ;; master process
      (process repeat reps
                    for k = (between 20 90)
                    for a = (between .3 .8)
                    do (setq amp a key (+ k 12))
                    output (new midi :time (now) :keynum k
                           :duration 1 :amplitude a)
               wait 1
               finally (setq stop t))
      ;; slave
      (process with pat = (new random
                            :of (list (new line :of 1/6 :for 6)
                                      (new line :of 1/5 :for 5)
                                      (new line :of 1/4 :for 4)
                                      (new line :of 1/3 :for 3)
                                      (new line :of 1/2 :for 2)))
               until stop
               for r = (next pat)
               for k = (between key (+ key 12))
               output (new midi :time (now) :keynum k
                           :duration r :amplitude (/ amp 2))
               wait r))))


(cd)
(events (master-and-slave 20) "test.mid")



From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Jan  8 12:25:02 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:25:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] [ANN] Re: SND as a pd-external.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512061213110.1188@ttleush.stanford.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512061213110.1188@ttleush.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601081220490.1145@ttleush.stanford.edu>

This mail is to inform that SND as a PD external now has support
for sound processing as well as data processing, and that various
bugs and stuff has been fixed since the last announcement.

Check out help-snd.pd for a data processing example, and help-snd-fm.pd 
for a sound processing example.


On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:

>
> (This is an announcement)
>
> By ./configuring snd with the --with-snd-as-pd-external flag,
> you can use SND as a pd external. Check out the help-snd.pd patch
> for examples of use.
>
> For now its pretty similar to the k_guile external, but all the SND
> stuff is available, and its threaded, so guile's garbage collector will not 
> interrupt pd.
>
> This makes SND as a pd external into a much better option than k_guile, and a 
> very competitive alternative to the py/pyext external.
>
> Theres only realtime data-processing accessible via outlets/inlets/bindings 
> for now, but realtime sound-processing is coming up soon as well. And of 
> course, you can send messages to SND to do all kinds of things that SND 
> provides, like playing files and stuff. (stuff=to much to be able to mention 
> in one sentence)
>
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/
>
>
> USAGE
> -----
> cd pd/externals
> wget ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/snd-7.tar.bz2
> tar xvjf snd-7.tar.bz2
> cd snd-7
> ./configure GUILE_CONFIG_path=<somewhere-where-guile1.7.2-is-installed>/bin 
> --with-snd-as-pd-external
> make
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=<somewhere-where-guile1.7.2-is-installed>/lib
> pd help-snd.pd
>
> (no make install)
>
>
>



From jjfoerch at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  8 14:07:08 2006
From: jjfoerch at earthlink.net (John J Foerch)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:07:08 -0500
Subject: [CM] pclass and mathematics of harmony
In-Reply-To: <20060106115407.M44396@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <E1EueTj-00022q-00@pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<20060106115407.M44396@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <E1Evigt-0000UT-00@pop-cowbird.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

In the case of transpose.lisp, a staff object is given as an
argument to transpose.  I don't see a way to get the correct
staff object from the scope of a note.  I am looking at
cmn0.lisp, (line 1369) at the defun of staff.  I'll paste
the portion I'm looking at:

(defun staff (&rest objects)
  (let* ((new-staff (make-instance 'staff)))
    (multiple-value-bind
	(data actions local-brace)
	(notify new-staff objects)
      (setf *cmn-staff* new-staff)
      (setf (staff-data new-staff) data)

If I am reading this correctly, the notes (objects) are
being evaluated via notify before *cmn-staff* is set to
point to the staff they are in.  Is there any reason
*cmn-staff* could not be set before the processing of the
notes?

I will experiment at this end.

Thank you!

-John J Foerch





Bill Schottstaedt writes:
 > Perhaps transpose.lisp will help -- the key signature is found with
 > key-p while scanning the staff data list. 
 > 
 > 



From hans at eds.org  Mon Jan  9 08:30:20 2006
From: hans at eds.org (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:30:20 -0500
Subject: [CM] Re: [PD-announce] [ANN] Re: SND as a pd-external.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601081220490.1145@ttleush.stanford.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512061213110.1188@ttleush.stanford.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601081220490.1145@ttleush.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <3d0b6209a2f46175eed4f341ebd123b7@eds.org>

On Jan 8, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:

>
> This mail is to inform that SND as a PD external now has support
> for sound processing as well as data processing, and that various
> bugs and stuff has been fixed since the last announcement.
>
> Check out help-snd.pd for a data processing example, and  
> help-snd-fm.pd for a sound processing example.

FYI: the helpfile standard is *-help.pd, help-*.pd is deprecated.

.hc

>
>
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>
>>
>> (This is an announcement)
>>
>> By ./configuring snd with the --with-snd-as-pd-external flag,
>> you can use SND as a pd external. Check out the help-snd.pd patch
>> for examples of use.
>>
>> For now its pretty similar to the k_guile external, but all the SND
>> stuff is available, and its threaded, so guile's garbage collector  
>> will not interrupt pd.
>>
>> This makes SND as a pd external into a much better option than  
>> k_guile, and a very competitive alternative to the py/pyext external.
>>
>> Theres only realtime data-processing accessible via  
>> outlets/inlets/bindings for now, but realtime sound-processing is  
>> coming up soon as well. And of course, you can send messages to SND  
>> to do all kinds of things that SND provides, like playing files and  
>> stuff. (stuff=to much to be able to mention in one sentence)
>>
>> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/
>>
>>
>> USAGE
>> -----
>> cd pd/externals
>> wget ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/snd-7.tar.bz2
>> tar xvjf snd-7.tar.bz2
>> cd snd-7
>> ./configure  
>> GUILE_CONFIG_path=<somewhere-where-guile1.7.2-is-installed>/bin  
>> --with-snd-as-pd-external
>> make
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=<somewhere-where-guile1.7.2-is-installed>/lib
>> pd help-snd.pd
>>
>> (no make install)
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> PD-announce at iem.at
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce
>

________________________________________________________________________ 
____

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                                            - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jan  9 12:06:43 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:06:43 -0800
Subject: [CM] cvs snd
Message-ID: <20060109200248.M17148@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

For the next couple days, the CVS Snd Gtk code is for good-sports only!
I'm replacing Gtk's list and file-selection stuff, both of which take forever
to test (but they'll be worth it! -- Gtk's efforts in these areas leave one
at a loss for (printable) words -- Chris was right that I should have gone
to Qt, but I couldn't stomach C++).



From b0ef at esben-stien.name  Mon Jan  9 17:28:46 2006
From: b0ef at esben-stien.name (Esben Stien)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:28:46 +0100
Subject: [CM] beautiful new icon set
In-Reply-To: <17b20cbc9257df3f99b334d40feede56@uiuc.edu> (Rick Taube's
 message of "Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:52:42 -0600")
References: <17b20cbc9257df3f99b334d40feede56@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <87oe2kc1m9.fsf@esben-stien.name>

Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu> writes:

> tobias kunze has update his logo for CM 

Where's the SVG?;)

-- 
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         http://www. s     t    n m
          irc://irc.  b  -  i  .   e/%23contact
          [sip|iax]:   e     e 
           jid:b0ef@    n     n



From joshp at u.washington.edu  Mon Jan  9 14:59:09 2006
From: joshp at u.washington.edu (Joshua Parmenter)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:09 -0800
Subject: [CM] Call for Works- Deadline Feb. 1, 2006- DXARTS UW Seattle.
Message-ID: <3435D400-0AF9-4E0D-9A9F-C3FCB552062C@u.washington.edu>

Below is a call for works for the upcoming concert by the Center for  
Digital Arts and Experimental Media concert on April 12th, 2006 at  
the University of Washington, Seattle. Please feel free to forward  
this message.

Call for Works

Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media
Meany Hall, University of Washington, Seattle
April 12th, 2006 7:30pm

The Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media (DXARTS) at the  
University of Washington, Seattle announces a call for experimental  
works appropriate to a large proscenium theater setting, including  
electro-acoustic music, digital video and real-time electronic works.  
Works for new and experimental media other then traditional sound and  
video that are appropriate for a concert presentation will also be  
considered. Artists are invited to submit up to two works for  
inclusion in the DXARTS concert on April 12th, 2006. Works will be  
presented with a state of the art 12.6 3-D sound system and large  
venue digital cinema HD projection system.

Submission guidelines: Please send two copies (according to format  
below) and a submission form for each work to:

Concert Submissions
c/o DXARTS
University of Washington
Box 353414
Seattle, WA 98195

Submission forms are available for download as PDF from: http:// 
www.washington.edu/dxarts/concertsubmission.pdf

Submissions must be received by Wednesday, February 1st, 2006.

Artists whose works are selected are strongly encouraged to attend  
the concert in Seattle. If you would like your materials returned to  
you, please supply a pre-addressed and stamped envelope. Lost or  
damaged works are not the responsibility of DXARTS.

Sound: Works for sound may be submitted on CD (in stereo), DVD (for  
surround), CD-Rom (mono files with channel placement noted for multi- 
channel works, or as a 3 or 4 channel Ambisonic file). Works that  
include live performers or live electronics are welcome, though  
DXARTS suggests that the artist supply the performer for the concert.

Video: Works for video may be submitted on DVD, CD-Rom, Mini-DV or HD  
files on a data disc.

For additional information, please contact Joshua Parmenter at  
joshp at u.washington.edu

Josh Parmenter

******************************************
Joshua Parmenter
joshp at u.washington.edu
Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and  
Experimental Media
Raitt Hall - University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195

http://www.dxarts.washington.edu




From cecilesolletty at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 10 08:22:52 2006
From: cecilesolletty at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?Q+ljaWxlIFNPTExFVFRZ?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:22:52 +0000
Subject: [CM] Questions about CMN
Message-ID: <BAY107-F28CD99768BDA86DBEE88DCCA250@phx.gbl>

Hi, I would like to have some informations about the music edition programm 
called CMN: my computer is an iBook and I'd like to know if I can use CMN 
with it and if it is so, what do I need to use it ? (what is Clisp or MCL, 
SND? I found that terms in my web researchs but I don't understand what it 
is)
Thanks

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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan 10 09:10:46 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:10:46 -0800
Subject: [CM] Questions about CMN
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-F28CD99768BDA86DBEE88DCCA250@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY107-F28CD99768BDA86DBEE88DCCA250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20060110170831.M67258@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

CMN is a Lisp program, so you need Lisp to use it.  Clisp is
a version of Lisp, as is MCL.  Snd is a separate program, only
loosely related to CMN.  I don't know anything about iBooks --
is that an Apple computer?  If so, you might be able to use
openmcl.



From cecilesolletty at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 10 13:47:49 2006
From: cecilesolletty at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?Q+ljaWxlIFNPTExFVFRZ?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:47:49 +0000
Subject: [CM] RE: Cmdist digest, Vol 1 #868 - 5 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20060110200002.13038.60128.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY107-F5BF5ED3D61C09144ECDB1CA250@phx.gbl>

Yes, iBook is a Mac computer. Thank you for responding.


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>From: "Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:06:43 -0800
>Subject: [CM] cvs snd
>
>For the next couple days, the CVS Snd Gtk code is for good-sports only!
>I'm replacing Gtk's list and file-selection stuff, both of which take 
>forever
>to test (but they'll be worth it! -- Gtk's efforts in these areas leave one
>at a loss for (printable) words -- Chris was right that I should have gone
>to Qt, but I couldn't stomach C++).
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>Subject: Re: [CM] beautiful new icon set
>From: Esben Stien <b0ef at esben-stien.name>
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:28:46 +0100
>
>Rick Taube <taube at uiuc.edu> writes:
>
> > tobias kunze has update his logo for CM
>
>Where's the SVG?;)
>
>--
>Esben Stien is b0ef at e     s      a
>          http://www. s     t    n m
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>
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>
>Message: 3
>From: Joshua Parmenter <joshp at u.washington.edu>
>Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:59:09 -0800
>To: Joshua Parmenter <joshp at u.washington.edu>
>Subject: [CM] Call for Works- Deadline Feb. 1, 2006- DXARTS UW Seattle.
>
>Below is a call for works for the upcoming concert by the Center for
>Digital Arts and Experimental Media concert on April 12th, 2006 at
>the University of Washington, Seattle. Please feel free to forward
>this message.
>
>Call for Works
>
>Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media
>Meany Hall, University of Washington, Seattle
>April 12th, 2006 7:30pm
>
>The Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media (DXARTS) at the
>University of Washington, Seattle announces a call for experimental
>works appropriate to a large proscenium theater setting, including
>electro-acoustic music, digital video and real-time electronic works.
>Works for new and experimental media other then traditional sound and
>video that are appropriate for a concert presentation will also be
>considered. Artists are invited to submit up to two works for
>inclusion in the DXARTS concert on April 12th, 2006. Works will be
>presented with a state of the art 12.6 3-D sound system and large
>venue digital cinema HD projection system.
>
>Submission guidelines: Please send two copies (according to format
>below) and a submission form for each work to:
>
>Concert Submissions
>c/o DXARTS
>University of Washington
>Box 353414
>Seattle, WA 98195
>
>Submission forms are available for download as PDF from: http://
>www.washington.edu/dxarts/concertsubmission.pdf
>
>Submissions must be received by Wednesday, February 1st, 2006.
>
>Artists whose works are selected are strongly encouraged to attend
>the concert in Seattle. If you would like your materials returned to
>you, please supply a pre-addressed and stamped envelope. Lost or
>damaged works are not the responsibility of DXARTS.
>
>Sound: Works for sound may be submitted on CD (in stereo), DVD (for
>surround), CD-Rom (mono files with channel placement noted for multi-
>channel works, or as a 3 or 4 channel Ambisonic file). Works that
>include live performers or live electronics are welcome, though
>DXARTS suggests that the artist supply the performer for the concert.
>
>Video: Works for video may be submitted on DVD, CD-Rom, Mini-DV or HD
>files on a data disc.
>
>For additional information, please contact Joshua Parmenter at
>joshp at u.washington.edu
>
>Josh Parmenter
>
>******************************************
>Joshua Parmenter
>joshp at u.washington.edu
>Post-Doctoral Research Associate - Center for Digital Arts and
>Experimental Media
>Raitt Hall - University of Washington
>Seattle, Washington 98195
>
>http://www.dxarts.washington.edu
>
>
>
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>From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Q+ljaWxlIFNPTExFVFRZ?= <cecilesolletty at hotmail.com>
>To: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:22:52 +0000
>Subject: [CM] Questions about CMN
>
>Hi, I would like to have some informations about the music edition programm
>called CMN: my computer is an iBook and I'd like to know if I can use CMN
>with it and if it is so, what do I need to use it ? (what is Clisp or MCL,
>SND? I found that terms in my web researchs but I don't understand what it
>is)
>Thanks
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>http://desktop.msn.fr/
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 5
>From: "Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9cile_SOLLETTY_?=<cecilesolletty at hotmail.com>,
>    cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
>Subject: Re: [CM] Questions about CMN
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:10:46 -0800
>
>CMN is a Lisp program, so you need Lisp to use it.  Clisp is
>a version of Lisp, as is MCL.  Snd is a separate program, only
>loosely related to CMN.  I don't know anything about iBooks --
>is that an Apple computer?  If so, you might be able to use
>openmcl.
>
>
>
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From wsack at buffalo.edu  Tue Jan 10 12:33:06 2006
From: wsack at buffalo.edu (bill sack)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:33:06 -0500
Subject: [CM] clm-random error and "double-float"
Message-ID: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu>

hi again,
while looking for a replacement for lisp's 'random' for use in clm run 
loops, i stumbled across what might be a problem:

these clm expressions evaluate fine:
* (centered-random 1.0)
-0.7780328
* (mus-random 1.0)
0.2189467
but this one produces an error
* (clm-random 1.0)


Type-error in KERNEL::OBJECT-NOT-DOUBLE-FLOAT-ERROR-HANDLER:
   1.0 is not of type DOUBLE-FLOAT
   [Condition of type TYPE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [ABORT] Return to Top-Level.

Debug  (type H for help)

(CLM-RANDOM 1.0)
Source: (DEF-ALIEN-ROUTINE ("mus_frandom" CLM-RANDOM) FLOAT (AMP 
DOUBLE-FLOAT))

according to the docs, 'clm-random' would seem like the closest drop-in 
replacement for lisp 'random' (which is being redefined in CM?), as 
mus-random and centered-random return a range plus and minus the amp 
argument.

i am understanding this correctly, or am i out to lunch? i'm using cmucl 
19c these days, also.

thanks!
bill sack



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan 10 15:24:45 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:24:45 -0800
Subject: [CM] clm-random error and "double-float"
In-Reply-To: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu>
References: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <20060110232027.M8142@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

There must be a way to make CLM's use of random compatible with CM's,
but I haven't taken time to look into it (I'm trying to get Snd 7.18 out the door).

The clm-random problem is one that I think is a bug in Lisp, but I have no
hopes anyone will agree: 1.0 is not a double float!  The clm-random call
goes through the FFI (it's a C function for use in the run loop), and everything
there uses double floats.  You have to say

(clm-random 1.0d0)

or

(clm-random (coerce 1.0 'double-float))

mus-random on the other hand is just a wrapper around Lisp's random.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan 10 15:49:09 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:49:09 -0600
Subject: [CM] clm-random error and "double-float"
In-Reply-To: <20060110232027.M8142@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu> <20060110232027.M8142@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <ad31341bc26c5c65a8cbaef4c975fb03@uiuc.edu>

> There must be a way to make CLM's use of random compatible with CM's,
> but I haven't taken time to look into it (I'm trying to get Snd 7.18 
> out the door).


Im sorry, i simply dropped the ball!  i do rememebr i was going to 
rename the random  and funcall pattern to names that do not conflit 
with CLTL. i think i narrowed new candiate names down to these:

1 change 'funcall' to 'thunk' :

     (new thunk :of (lambda () ...)

2 change 'random' to 'weighting' :

	(new weighting :of  '( a b (c :weight 3) d e))


does anyone object to these new names (or have better candiates)?  if 
not ill rename them in the next few days.




From cewing at u.washington.edu  Wed Jan 11 13:58:20 2006
From: cewing at u.washington.edu (cristopher pierson ewing)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:58:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] clm-random error and "double-float"
In-Reply-To: <ad31341bc26c5c65a8cbaef4c975fb03@uiuc.edu>
References: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu> <20060110232027.M8142@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
 <ad31341bc26c5c65a8cbaef4c975fb03@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601111356470.9588@homer21.u.washington.edu>

Rick,

Might it be best to rename them with something that prepends 'rand' onto a 
name so that there is some pnemonic indication that they are random?

Just an idea,

Cris

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Work Phone: (206) 685-9116
Home Phone: (206) 365-3413
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Rick Taube wrote:

>> There must be a way to make CLM's use of random compatible with CM's,
>> but I haven't taken time to look into it (I'm trying to get Snd 7.18 out 
>> the door).
>
>
> Im sorry, i simply dropped the ball!  i do rememebr i was going to rename the 
> random  and funcall pattern to names that do not conflit with CLTL. i think i 
> narrowed new candiate names down to these:
>
> 1 change 'funcall' to 'thunk' :
>
>    (new thunk :of (lambda () ...)
>
> 2 change 'random' to 'weighting' :
>
> 	(new weighting :of  '( a b (c :weight 3) d e))
>
>
> does anyone object to these new names (or have better candiates)?  if not ill 
> rename them in the next few days.
>
>
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From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Wed Jan 11 14:14:55 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (ml13 at onlinehome.de)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:14:55 +0100
Subject: [CM] process sync...
In-Reply-To: <66d4bcaddf3c718b35405d593291d7d2@uiuc.edu>
References: <D27BC192-28D8-47F0-93FA-9CF46D252A31@onlinehome.de> <66d4bcaddf3c718b35405d593291d7d2@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <E048FB53-B15B-4560-A9B4-087299127811@onlinehome.de>

Hi

thank you very much for your detailed explanation!!

I have played around for a while trying to find a simple example that  
shows what appears to be a bug.

(defvar *length* 50)

(defun a ()
   (let ((durs (new cycle :of '(5 12 7 5 12 7))))
     (process
       until (> (now) *length*)
       for dur = (next durs)
       do (format t "~2D: A says hi~%" (now) 1)
       wait dur)))

(defun b ()
   (let ((durs (new cycle :of '(12 5 7 5 7 12))))
     (process
       until (> (now) *length*)
       for dur = (next durs)
       do (format t "~2D: B says hello~%" (now) 2)
       wait dur)))

CM> (events (list (a) (b)) nil)
0: A says hi
0: B says hello
5: A says hi
12: B says hello
17: A says hi
17: B says hello
24: A says hi
24: B says hello
29: A says hi
29: B says hello
36: B says hello
41: A says hi
48: B says hello ; look Ma, A hasn't said hi yet.........
48: A says hi
NIL

Sorry for not tracing this further down, I still feel to be too new  
to CM, but tell me, if you need anymore information.

Regards,

	Kilian Sprotte




From taube at uiuc.edu  Thu Jan 12 10:37:56 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:37:56 -0600
Subject: [CM] clm-random error and "double-float"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601111356470.9588@homer21.u.washington.edu>
References: <43C41A02.2010908@buffalo.edu> <20060110232027.M8142@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <ad31341bc26c5c65a8cbaef4c975fb03@uiuc.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601111356470.9588@homer21.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <9AF7FD87-88FB-4C83-AA2A-ECA03A9C1FB8@uiuc.edu>

sorry, too late! i took the renaming opportunity to add a new feature  
to weighting patterns suggested by a student of mine: if you  
specify :adjustable <number> then each time items are selected they  
become less/more likely by the :adjustable amount.

> Might it be best to rename them with something that prepends 'rand'  
> onto a name so that there is some pnemonic indication that they are  
> random?
>
> Just an idea,
>
> Cris



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jan 12 13:39:37 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:39:37 -0800
Subject: [CM] Re: I'd like to report an error on portmidi.tar.gr
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0601121204x44701682le7916f5d11ec1cc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0601121152l73e11d65k58f28e020f70d848@mail.gmail.com> <f8c1048a0601121204x44701682le7916f5d11ec1cc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060112213841.M90635@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:04:30 +0200   
From: Thanassis Zervopoulos <azervopoulos at gmail.com>         

Hi,
My name is Thanassis Zervopoulos and i am studing at Technical University of Crete. I'm working on a 
project thar requires real-time interaction with a midi and an application, so I've downloaded portmidi 
from  CM Links-> Linux Portmidi installation which is the archive portmidi.tar.gz. I've followed the 
instructions but there was an error message "Can't open "/usr/lib/libporttime.so " " Undefined 
Symbol ....Thread....."
so I put this line ---  (cffi:load-foreign-library "/usr/lib/libpthread.so")  ---  to portmidi.lisp after the 
comments 
;;; linux: guess i need to load porttime.so first (?) osx doesnt seem
;;; to need this lib at all...

and works fine.

I'm new on this area with cm,clm,cmn,portmidi so i'd like to ask you if it is better to use portmidi or 
midishare for real-time midi i/o and will i need rts for real-time interaction?

Thank you in advance



From ml13 at onlinehome.de  Fri Jan 13 09:35:30 2006
From: ml13 at onlinehome.de (Kilian Sprotte)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:35:30 +0100
Subject: [CM] rewrite
Message-ID: <A9C735E3-FEAB-47F5-8AEF-A8E31008BBF6@onlinehome.de>

Hi,

I am just wondering, whether it is possible to change the rules of a  
rewrite object, after it has already generated some output and go on  
"smoothly" after the change.

Might something like

(setf (rewrite-rules r) (parse-rules new-rules (rewrite-table r))

where new-rules are in the initial format as given to (new rewrite...)
be a good approach?

Thanks,
	Kilian Sprotte




From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jan 13 12:14:57 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:14:57 -0600
Subject: [CM] Re: I'd like to report an error on portmidi.tar.gr
In-Reply-To: <20060112213841.M90635@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <f8c1048a0601121152l73e11d65k58f28e020f70d848@mail.gmail.com> <f8c1048a0601121204x44701682le7916f5d11ec1cc1@mail.gmail.com> <20060112213841.M90635@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <7671aa8d8c13ed22d418ddd1eac33ae8@uiuc.edu>

>  I've followed the
> instructions but there was an error message "Can't open 
> "/usr/lib/libporttime.so " " Undefined
> Symbol ....Thread....."
> so I put this line ---  (cffi:load-foreign-library 
> "/usr/lib/libpthread.so")  ---  to portmidi.lisp after the
> comments
> ;;; linux: guess i need to load porttime.so first (?) osx doesnt seem
> ;;; to need this lib at all...
> and works fine.

i dont understand - do you have libporttime.so installed in 
/usr/local/lib or not?
im not sure how/why loading libpthread fixes anything.


> I'm new on this area with cm,clm,cmn,portmidi so i'd like to ask you 
> if it is better to use portmidi or
> midishare for real-time midi i/o and will i need rts for real-time 
> interaction?

"better" is in the eyes of the beholder. portmidi is bascially a 
lightweight connection to the host midi system. midishare is a larger, 
more "monolithic" system for doing midi. midishare api is probaly 
better for sending lots of data since you use typeNote and avoid having 
to schedule/send noteOffs.


rts lets you shedule musical processes to run in real time. if you dont 
need processes you can just send data over using (pm:output ) for 
portmidi and (ms:output ) for midishare.

i hope this answers your questions.
best,
rick



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jan 13 12:19:57 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:19:57 -0600
Subject: [CM] rewrite
In-Reply-To: <A9C735E3-FEAB-47F5-8AEF-A8E31008BBF6@onlinehome.de>
References: <A9C735E3-FEAB-47F5-8AEF-A8E31008BBF6@onlinehome.de>
Message-ID: <b5d27440787c815b46d8a3f03a043c36@uiuc.edu>

hi it might work, i would try to make sure you are in between 
generations or at end-of-period when you switch.
sorry i have not had time yet to look at the ordering example you sent 
in your last message.
best,
rick


On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Kilian Sprotte wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am just wondering, whether it is possible to change the rules of a 
> rewrite object, after it has already generated some output and go on 
> "smoothly" after the change.
>
> Might something like
>
> (setf (rewrite-rules r) (parse-rules new-rules (rewrite-table r))
>
> where new-rules are in the initial format as given to (new rewrite...)
> be a good approach?
>
> Thanks,
> 	Kilian Sprotte
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sat Jan 14 02:50:41 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:50:41 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 7.18
Message-ID: <20060114104858.M41040@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Snd 7.18

snd_pd_external.c, help-snd-fm.pd, and pd-fm.scm and other changes for Pd, thanks to Kjetil.

Many more improvements thanks to Mike.

default sample type is now float. This should only affect the "peak-env" files which will
  need to be rebuilt (just delete the current peak files, and they'll be rebuilt as needed
  automatically).

analog-filter.scm: Butterworth, Chebyshev, inverse-Chebyshev, Bessel(-Thompson), Elliptic filters.
  (These functions are based on code of Anders Johansson)

new fft windows: samaraki and ultraspherical (related to the dolph-chebyshev window)
  ultraspherical window has an additional parameter (side lobe shape) named
  fft-window-alpha here (to parallel fft-window-beta).

new sound effects:
  sinc-train (clm.html)
  reverse-by-blocks and reverse-within-blocks (examp.scm)
  pulse-voice (examp.scm)

moved make-iir-low|high-pass-1 to snd7.scm (from dsp.scm)

removed the various sorting indices (sort-by-name|size|date|entry), and changed 
  the way the user-defined sorter works. (snd7.scm defines the old names).
  Also removed (unimplemented, but documented) file-sorters list, and the
  now useless just-sounds-hook.  added sound-file? for easier file-filter definition.

in both Motif and Gtk, the file selection dialogs have been changed -- there are
  fewer visible widgets, but popup menus are scattered around to handle uncommon 
  chores (sorting, filtering, etc).  libgamin is connected to the file list as 
  elsewhere.  Right-click in the file list brings up a menu of sorting/filtering 
  choices; in the directory list it brings up a menu that splits out the parent 
  directories (single-click in the directory list moves to that directory);
  in the file and filter entry widgets it brings up a list of previous choices.  
  If you type in the file entry widget, the file list tries to move to the apparent choice.
  The "preview area" is as before -- a description of the selected sound file,
  with "play" and "just-sounds" buttons. 

In the xm module, XmNpopupEnabled is now an enum (it was boolean -- I was following
  the incorrect info in the Motif docs -- use XmPOPUP_AUTOMATIC rather than #t).

the happy buttons have hunkered down for the winter.

checked: gtk 2.8.8|9|10, sbcl 0.9.7|8, clisp 2.36|7 (cmn), motif 2.3.0, ruby 1.8.4, 
         Mesa 6.4.1 (openGL), gamin 0.1.7 (fam)

with much help from: Kjetil, Mike, Russell Aspinwall



From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jan 14 14:08:51 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:08:51 -0600
Subject: [CM] cm slime support
Message-ID: <8390fd28135f5d39c903a76bafaa8d67@uiuc.edu>

Ive added lots of support for working with CM using Slime, including 
documentation browsing and dictionary lookup via the built-in hyperspec 
tool. The slime support is non-invasive, see the top of cm.el for some 
suggested key-bindings.

	http:commonmusic.sf.net/etc/xemacs/cm.el



From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jan 14 14:19:32 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:19:32 -0600
Subject: [CM] how to install
Message-ID: <c3090c7bb41bd74dd627932443e5f487@uiuc.edu>

forgot to show how to intall the new emacs support. This is what my 
.emacs looks like, you dont have to bind keys if you dont want.

   (add-to-list 'load-path "/PATH/TO/slime/")
   (require 'slime)
   (slime-setup)
   (load "/PATH/TO/cm.el")
   (global-set-key (kbd "<f13>") 'slime-toggle-repl)
   (define-key slime-mode-map "\C-x\C-e" 'slime-eval-anything)
   (define-key slime-mode-map (kbd "TAB") 'slime-indent-anything)
   (define-key slime-mode-map (kbd "\C-c\C-dc") 'cm-lookup)

then -- assuming your inferior-lisp-program starts cm -- do
	M-x cm

this stuff is new so there will be some issues. but looking up cm doc 
at point is very cool!



From gogins at pipeline.com  Sun Jan 15 11:45:11 2006
From: gogins at pipeline.com (Michael Gogins)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:45:11 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [CM] Updated Csound5.0rc2 Windows Installer
Message-ID: <11519279.1137354311124.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I've once again updated the Csound5, release candidate 2, 64 bit samples, 
Windows installer on SourceForge. This can be found at:

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound

in the csound package, csound5.0rc2 release, csound-5rc2.exe file.

Changes this time are to update the Csound and the manual with Istvan Varga's latest contributions, updates, and fixes to the channel opcodes (chn*).

Mingwm10.dll is included, Victor Lazzarini's PortAudio is used (I think), CSOUNDRC is set, Rawwaves are in place, csound.hpp is included, latest libsndfile is used (pre6), the Python version is 2.4, all DLLs are stripped.

Includes all opcodes of Istvan Varga zip plus Loris, vst4cs, FluidSynth, and
STK C++ opcodes, as well as tclcsound and csoundapi~.

This installer needs more testing on the PortAudio performance, Loris opcodes, Python opcodes, vst4cs opcodes, and csoundvst~ PD external. When these tests are satisfactory, the manual is completely up to date, and there are better examples, I will consider this installer suitable for general release.

It would also be nice if somebody would improve the LISP CFFI binding in interfaces/csound5.lisp, which works on a basic level as demonstrated in interfaces/test.lisp, but needs to be improved with CLOS bindings and with integration as a Common Music output stream. I will get around to this eventually, but it would be nice if it happened sooner.


Regards,
Mike





From kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Jan 15 13:24:55 2006
From: kjetil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] Snd 7.18
In-Reply-To: <20060114200002.3137.5194.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
References: <20060114200002.3137.5194.Mailman@cm-mail.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601151319040.1143@ttleush.stanford.edu>

"Bill Schottstaedt":
>
> Snd 7.18
>
> snd_pd_external.c, help-snd-fm.pd, and pd-fm.scm and other changes for Pd, thanks to Kjetil.
>

Unfortunately, snd 7.18 was released right before I got fixed one gruesome 
bug, and two horrible bugs. So if anyone wants to try snd as a pd 
external, please use the "daily Snd sources" download instead of snd 7.18.

Please also let me know if you have problems with guile 1.7.2 or other 
problems related to get everything running. They should be solvable...



-- 



From njcross at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 17 11:38:38 2006
From: njcross at sbcglobal.net (njcross at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:38:38 -0800
Subject: [CM] Fwd: cm and midishare player
Message-ID: <200601171138.38798.njcross@sbcglobal.net>

I received an email from Kendatsuba which may be a solution for others.

This should work(?), but, my Mandriva LE2005 still can't see the 
'libPlayer.so.old' although it's been created! (see below).
-----------

Hi,
have you finally solved your problem with cm and midishare library
libPlayer.so ? If not I have found one, I'm using debian testing and faced
the same problem.

_ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE not found.

The loader doesn't seem to find this symbol wich is defined in
libstdc++.so.6 library and not in libstdc++.so.5. Usually this shared
library is loaded automatically and so it isn't listed among library
dependencies by ldd. For some reasons it seems that even if libPlayer.so it
is linked against libstdc++.so.6 by gcc/ld, either it is not loaded
automatically or libstdc++.so.5 gets loaded instead. I've not inquired
further into the problem and solved it this way:

mv /usr/lib/libPlayer.so /usr/lib/libPlayer.so.old
ld -shared /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 libPlayer.so.old -o libPlayer.so

This explicitly tells the loader to load libstdc++.so.6 when loading
libPlayer.so, in fact it will be listed among dependencies by ldd. I do not
know how "polite" it is towards the loader to force it this way but this did
the trick for me. I've compiled everything needed with gcc/g++ version
3.xas libPlayer does not compile with
4.x. Please let me know if you already solved the problem. I've not read
anything about the solution in ccrma forum, if this works for you (even if
you already solved it) could you please post on the forum? I am not
subscribed and not a user of ccrma distrubution.

Regards,
k

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My original post to cm list:

> I can't seem to load MidiShare Player into cm. 
> I've loaded all the new files OK and MidiShare loads (use-system :midishare)
> OK. But when I try to load the player (use-system :player)  it complains 
that 
> it can't load /usr/lib/libPlayer.so, although it's there. 
> 
> cm says:
> 
> * (use-system :player)
> 
> ; Loading #P"/root/midishare/player.x86f".
> ;;; Opening shared library /usr/lib/libPlayer.so ...
> 
> 
> 
> Error in function SYSTEM::LOAD-OBJECT-FILE:
>    Can't open object "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so": "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so: 
> undefinedsymbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE"
>    [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR]
> 
> Restarts:
>   0: [CONTINUE] Return NIL from load of #P"/root/midishare/player.x86f".
>   1: [RETRY   ] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {592EB9B5}> on
>                 #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "player" {58F7F075}>.
>   2: [ACCEPT  ] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {592EB9B5}> on
>                 #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "player" {58F7F075}> as
>                 having been successful.
>   3: [ABORT   ] Return to Top-Level.
> 
> Debug  (type H for help)
> 
> (SYSTEM::LOAD-OBJECT-FILE "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so")
> Source: Error finding source:
> Error in function DEBUG::GET-FILE-TOP-LEVEL-FORM:  Source file no longer 
> exists:
>   target:code/foreign.lisp.
> 0]               
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 



From njcross at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 17 13:10:14 2006
From: njcross at sbcglobal.net (njcross at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:10:14 -0800
Subject: [CM] Re: Fwd: cm and midishare player
Message-ID: <200601171310.14806.njcross@sbcglobal.net>

I was too quick to email. This works perfectly - just had to add the
 directory paths:

ld -shared /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libPlayer.so.old
-o /usr/lib/libPlayer.so

Thank you Kendatsuba!

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 11:38 am, you wrote:
> I received an email from Kendatsuba which may be a solution for others.
>
> This should work(?), but, my Mandriva LE2005 still can't see the
> 'libPlayer.so.old' although it's been created! (see below).
> -----------
>
> Hi,
> have you finally solved your problem with cm and midishare library
> libPlayer.so ? If not I have found one, I'm using debian testing and faced
> the same problem.
>
> _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE not found.
>
> The loader doesn't seem to find this symbol wich is defined in
> libstdc++.so.6 library and not in libstdc++.so.5. Usually this shared
> library is loaded automatically and so it isn't listed among library
> dependencies by ldd. For some reasons it seems that even if libPlayer.so it
> is linked against libstdc++.so.6 by gcc/ld, either it is not loaded
> automatically or libstdc++.so.5 gets loaded instead. I've not inquired
> further into the problem and solved it this way:
>
> mv /usr/lib/libPlayer.so /usr/lib/libPlayer.so.old
> ld -shared /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 libPlayer.so.old -o libPlayer.so
>
> This explicitly tells the loader to load libstdc++.so.6 when loading
> libPlayer.so, in fact it will be listed among dependencies by ldd. I do not
> know how "polite" it is towards the loader to force it this way but this
> did the trick for me. I've compiled everything needed with gcc/g++ version
> 3.xas libPlayer does not compile with
> 4.x. Please let me know if you already solved the problem. I've not read
> anything about the solution in ccrma forum, if this works for you (even if
> you already solved it) could you please post on the forum? I am not
> subscribed and not a user of ccrma distrubution.
>
> Regards,
> k
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------
>
> My original post to cm list:
> > I can't seem to load MidiShare Player into cm.
> > I've loaded all the new files OK and MidiShare loads (use-system
> >
> > :midishare) OK. But when I try to load the player (use-system :player)
> >
> > it complains
>
> that
>
> > it can't load /usr/lib/libPlayer.so, although it's there.
> >
> > cm says:
> >
> > * (use-system :player)
> >
> > ; Loading #P"/root/midishare/player.x86f".
> > ;;; Opening shared library /usr/lib/libPlayer.so ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Error in function SYSTEM::LOAD-OBJECT-FILE:
> >    Can't open object "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so": "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so:
> > undefinedsymbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE"
> >    [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR]
> >
> > Restarts:
> >   0: [CONTINUE] Return NIL from load of #P"/root/midishare/player.x86f".
> >   1: [RETRY   ] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {592EB9B5}> on
> >                 #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "player" {58F7F075}>.
> >   2: [ACCEPT  ] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {592EB9B5}> on
> >                 #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "player" {58F7F075}> as
> >                 having been successful.
> >   3: [ABORT   ] Return to Top-Level.
> >
> > Debug  (type H for help)
> >
> > (SYSTEM::LOAD-OBJECT-FILE "/usr/lib/libPlayer.so")
> > Source: Error finding source:
> > Error in function DEBUG::GET-FILE-TOP-LEVEL-FORM:  Source file no longer
> > exists:
> >   target:code/foreign.lisp.
> > 0]
> >
> > Thanks for any help.



From andersvi at extern.uio.no  Wed Jan 18 04:14:56 2006
From: andersvi at extern.uio.no (andersvi at extern.uio.no)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:14:56 +0100
Subject: [CM] cmn's iratify
Message-ID: <copek3520n3.fsf@olivier.localdomain>

cmns #'iratify is giving me some strange results here (first
thought it was some roundoff error, but it seems theres something
with the algorithm behind).  The behavior is consistent across
lisps.

CMN> (iratify 0.125)
1/8
CMN> (iratify (* 8 0.125))
1
CMN> (iratify (* 9 0.125))
10/9

i would expect the last one to return 9/8.

Does anybody see whats wrong here?

heres the relevant section from cmn/cmn-utils.lisp

(defvar smallest-note .015625)		;256-th note (1/64)

(defun ratify-1 (ux)
  (if (zerop ux) (list 0 1)
    (let ((tt 1) 
	  (err smallest-note)
	  (a1 0) 
	  (b2 0) 
	  (a2 1) 
	  (b1 1) 
	  (a 0)  
	  (b 0)
	  (x (/ 1.0 ux)))
      (loop while t do
	(setf a (+ (* a1 tt) a2)) 
	(setf b (+ (* tt b1) b2))
	(if (and (/= b 0) (or (> b 100) (<= (abs (- ux (/ a b))) err)))
	    (return-from ratify-1 (list a b)))
	(if (< b -100) (return-from ratify-1 (list (- a) (- b))))
	(setf x (/ 1 (- x tt))) 
	(setf tt (floor x)) 
	(setf a2 a1) 
	(setf b2 b1) 
	(setf a1 a) 
	(setf b1 b)
	))))


(defun ratify (num)			;rational returns gigantic useless factors
  (if (floatp num)
      (if (<= num 16.0)
	  (ratify-1 num)
	(multiple-value-bind (int frac) (floor num)
	  (if (= frac 0.0)
	      (list int 1)
	    (let ((vals (ratify-1 frac)))
	      (list (+ (* int (second vals)) (first vals)) (second vals))))))
    (if (ratiop num)
	(list (numerator num) (denominator num))
      (list num 1))))



(defun fratify (num)
  (if (floatp num)
      (apply #'/ (ratify num))
    num))

(defun iratify (num) (coerce (apply #'/ (ratify num)) 'rational))



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Jan 18 06:19:03 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:19:03 -0800
Subject: [CM] cmn's iratify
In-Reply-To: <copek3520n3.fsf@olivier.localdomain>
References: <copek3520n3.fsf@olivier.localdomain>
Message-ID: <43CE4E57.8040200@ccrma>

cmn's iratify stops searching for a ratio (it uses continued fractions,
so it's very fast) when the error is less than "smallest-note" --
in this case smallest-note is .015 so

* (- (* .125 9) (/ 10 9))

0.013888836

If you set smallest-note smaller (say .001) you'll get 9/8:

* (setf smallest-note .001)

0.001
* (iratify (* .125 9))

9/8

If I remember right, this part of cmn is trying to simplify incoming notelist
data, so it's very hard to decide what the right thing is for all cases.



From azervopoulos at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 09:28:01 2006
From: azervopoulos at gmail.com (Thanassis Zervopoulos)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:28:01 +0200
Subject: [CM] snd 7.17 - installation problem
Message-ID: <f8c1048a0601180928i39524b44l55c0963934c67a36@mail.gmail.com>

./configure :looks fine
make : output ....headers.c:278: error: conflicting types for 'chans'
                           snd-1.h:352: error: previous declaration of
'chans' was here
                           make: *** [headers.o] Error 1

Any suggestions?
Thanx in advance
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Wed Jan 18 11:23:12 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:23:12 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd 7.17 - installation problem
In-Reply-To: <f8c1048a0601180928i39524b44l55c0963934c67a36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f8c1048a0601180928i39524b44l55c0963934c67a36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060118192052.M46067@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

That isn't an error in C or C++ -- the first chans is a field of a struct, the
second is a local variable.  What compiler are you using?  If possible,
send me your makefile and config.h so I have some context to work with.



From drkrause at mindspring.com  Wed Jan 18 17:25:37 2006
From: drkrause at mindspring.com (Drew Krause)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:25:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] Snd 7-18 alsa play error
Message-ID: <43CEEA91.5020200@mindspring.com>

Forgive me if this has been covered already --

Built snd-7-18
with alsa & esd options
on SUSE 10
Linux linux 2.6.13-15-default #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005 i686 i686 i386
GNU/Linux

error on playing a loaded .wav file:

ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:955:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
error: No such device
ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
ALSA lib pcm.c:2094:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default

(mus-audio-describe) returns
"Enlightened Sound Daemon via socket connextion to default host"

Any tips appreciated!

Thanks,
DK



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jan 19 04:49:43 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:49:43 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd 7-18 alsa play error
In-Reply-To: <43CEEA91.5020200@mindspring.com>
References: <43CEEA91.5020200@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <20060119124606.M35979@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I don't know why ALSA is involved at all -- if you include both --with-esd
and --with-alsa, you get esd; my guess is that you've hit an esd bug, and
should report it to them. 



From ego111 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 21:43:36 2006
From: ego111 at gmail.com (Evans Winner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:43:36 -0800
Subject: [CM] cmn newbie ?'s
Message-ID: <6e107fd50601212143l29a5cdcfq4149b5fe498a70ee@mail.gmail.com>

Hello.  I'm just trying to get up and going with cmn.  Sorry for the
basic questions that the manual (to my ability to follow it) or the
archives haven't helped me with.  There are several here, but I
suspect they will be easy to answer for the experienced.  Any help of
course, is much appreciated.

* Something like: (staff ... c4 q (bar (barline-thickness .2)) ... c4
q)... seems to work globally and change all barlines.  Is there a way
to effect just the one bar?

* Is there a way to indent the first line of a score?

* Is it possible to mix music fonts within the same document, as in
...(staff (cleff (treble (font "my-font" "U+0026"))))?

Thanks, all.

--
?



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Jan 22 03:52:31 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:52:31 -0800
Subject: [CM] cmn newbie ?'s
In-Reply-To: <6e107fd50601212143l29a5cdcfq4149b5fe498a70ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e107fd50601212143l29a5cdcfq4149b5fe498a70ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060122114148.M5433@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Those are good questions!  I fear the answer is no to all three.  The thickness
message currently only applies to double bars -- I can't remember why it has
that restriction -- I'll add a bar-thickness, or maybe barline-thickness message
to my TODO list (it should be very easy to add).  I thought you could indent
the first line by using the line-mark function: (line-mark (dx 10.0)), but it
seems to be a no-op -- this is probably a bug.  To mix music-fonts, I suppose
you could use with-cmn (the embedded cmn function), but cmn currently
assumes it has only one music-font (spacing is already far too complicated --
I wouldn't want to make it even worse!).

I think I need to add a section in the manual about what I was trying
to do in cmn -- it really isn't aimed at the calligraphic aspects of a printed
score -- I wanted a quick way to see a notelist in standard notation, and in
that context it does not matter how pretty it is.  Lilypond is probably the
way to go if you're aiming at publishable output -- I think its authors want
to go even further than Leland Smith's Score in that direction, so they will
be motivated to deal with aesthetic issues that I put in my TODO list and
intend to get to someday.
 



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Sun Jan 22 04:51:21 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 04:51:21 -0800
Subject: [CM] Snd and SGI "schemes"
Message-ID: <20060122124839.M85532@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Is anyone using the SGI "useScheme" settings in Snd?  If so, would it
be an unbearable calamity if that feature disappeared?



From johannes.quint at web.de  Tue Jan 24 00:44:39 2006
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:44:39 +0100
Subject: [CM] shortcut
Message-ID: <50351F02-261C-4BDF-BA5A-B9B1CA2272E7@web.de>

is it possible to define a keyboard-shortcut to
break a midishare output?

_________________________

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan 24 04:28:43 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:28:43 -0600
Subject: [CM] shortcut
In-Reply-To: <50351F02-261C-4BDF-BA5A-B9B1CA2272E7@web.de>
References: <50351F02-261C-4BDF-BA5A-B9B1CA2272E7@web.de>
Message-ID: <ae2bf59fde0efe88453c17db842c46dd@uiuc.edu>

> is it possible to define a keyboard-shortcut to
> break a midishare output?

its a short question, but a long answer...sorry!

if by "keyboard shortcut" you mean "can I define an emacs command that 
does this?" the answer is "yes and no".
its "yes" in the sense that you can easily define an emacs command to 
send the command to lisp (see below)
its "no" in the sense that neither Midishare nor Portmidi allow you to 
flush their pending output queue (at least that I can see) -- so you 
cannot use events to queue a passage of music and then flush the queue 
before its done plying.

however, its "yes" again in the sense that you can work around this 
limitation if you use RTS. If rts is running then IT can flush its own 
cue if you call (rts-hush). So if you use RTS you could define an emacs 
keyborad command that stops output to midishare and portmidi. For exam, 
this would define it on the Function6 key:

;; put this in your .emacs file
(global-set-key (kbd "<f6>") 'slime-hush)
(defun slime-hush ()
   (interactive )
   (slime-interactive-eval "(if (rts?) (rts-hush))"))


unfortunatly, the new rts code that implements rts-hush is still 
"unstable": it works on the mac (we think) but not yet on SBCL. There 
is a patch that may fix one of the problems with SBCL but I havent had 
time to find out.
also RTS is now a "breakout package" and has some changes that are not 
documented yet.
But you can try it if you are on the mac:

	1. do a cvs update of your CM tree and delete your cm/bin/openmcl_* 
directory
	2. cd to your parent lisp directory and do
	     cvs checkout rts
	3. start CM and do:
	    (use-system :rts)
         (use-system :midishare)

then try it out.
also in cvs:  If RTS is running you can use (events ...) to schedule to 
it:
	
(defparameter mp (midishare-open))
(rts mp)
(events (foo) mp)

you CANNOT use events to write a file if rts is running.



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan 24 06:35:55 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:35:55 -0600
Subject: [CM] shortcut
In-Reply-To: <55FBF713-9A79-4C41-A4A1-89F96DAB709D@web.de>
References: <50351F02-261C-4BDF-BA5A-B9B1CA2272E7@web.de> <ae2bf59fde0efe88453c17db842c46dd@uiuc.edu> <55FBF713-9A79-4C41-A4A1-89F96DAB709D@web.de>
Message-ID: <d7f44e56e1fb54417aa157f953ea76f7@uiuc.edu>

nothing like using a sledge hammer!
you can probably do the same thing for portmidi, but you may get 
hanging notes.

i guess your function could implmeent something like

	(progn (close-midi) (open-midi) (send-all-notes-off) )

at some point I will look at the issue about writing files with rts 
running, this has been raised before. it not an easy fix.


>> ;; put this in your .emacs file
>> (global-set-key (kbd "<f6>") 'slime-hush)
>> (defun slime-hush ()
>>   (interactive )
>>   (slime-interactive-eval "(if (rts?) (rts-hush))"))
>
> thanks for your help.
> i have now tried the following, and it seems to
> work:
>
> (global-set-key (kbd "<f6>") 'kbd-ms-close)
> (defun kbd-ms-close ()
>   (interactive )
>   (slime-interactive-eval "(midishare-close)"))
>
> i think this is better for me than rts, because i
> work with midi-files for sibelius and midi at the
> same time.
>
> johannes
>
> _________________________
>
> Johannes Quint
> Rilkestr.55
> D-53225 Bonn
> 0228 468256
> johannes.quint at web.de
> http://www.johannes-quint.de
>
>



From steven at sjknet.com  Tue Jan 24 19:18:28 2006
From: steven at sjknet.com (Steven Kallstrom)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:18:28 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM install troubles...
Message-ID: <43D6EE04.4010506@sjknet.com>

Hello,

I've installed CM with OpenMCL before without trouble.  I haven't played 
with it for awhile and tried a fresh install but ran into some troubles.

I'm trying to install CM with OpenMCL on Mac OS X 10.4.4.

Here is the error that I'm getting:

; Installation directory: "/usr/local/lisp/cm/"
; Compiling "src/gui/gtkffi-openmcl.lisp"
 > Error in process listener(1): Interface directory 
ccl:darwin-headers;gtk2; does not exist.
 > While executing: #<Anonymous Function #x6825446>

I have tried both CVS and Stable versions of CM, and OpenMCL 1.0 and 0.14.3.

Do I need to do something with cm-gtk?

I would like to get this running with all the bells and whistles...  so 
please advise.


Thank you,

Steven Kallstrom



From steven at sjknet.com  Tue Jan 24 21:08:51 2006
From: steven at sjknet.com (Steven Kallstrom)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:08:51 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM install troubles...
In-Reply-To: <43D6EE04.4010506@sjknet.com>
References: <43D6EE04.4010506@sjknet.com>
Message-ID: <43D707E3.3020702@sjknet.com>

Nevermind everything is good...  erased everything and tried again and 
it worked... sorry to bug you.

Steven Kallstrom wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've installed CM with OpenMCL before without trouble.  I haven't played 
> with it for awhile and tried a fresh install but ran into some troubles.
> 
> I'm trying to install CM with OpenMCL on Mac OS X 10.4.4.
> 
> Here is the error that I'm getting:
> 
> ; Installation directory: "/usr/local/lisp/cm/"
> ; Compiling "src/gui/gtkffi-openmcl.lisp"
>  > Error in process listener(1): Interface directory 
> ccl:darwin-headers;gtk2; does not exist.
>  > While executing: #<Anonymous Function #x6825446>
> 
> I have tried both CVS and Stable versions of CM, and OpenMCL 1.0 and 
> 0.14.3.
> 
> Do I need to do something with cm-gtk?
> 
> I would like to get this running with all the bells and whistles...  so 
> please advise.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Steven Kallstrom
> 
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jan 25 04:38:19 2006
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:38:19 -0600
Subject: [CM] CM install troubles...
In-Reply-To: <43D707E3.3020702@sjknet.com>
References: <43D6EE04.4010506@sjknet.com> <43D707E3.3020702@sjknet.com>
Message-ID: <feae295b1908854774eb236e6715a315@uiuc.edu>

one last potential "gotcha": the binary download of openmcl 1.0 has a 
bug in its threads support -- if you plan to run rts in openmcl 1.0 
then you will have to build openmcl 1.0 from its cvs sources. openmcl 
0.14.3 should work fine.

>> I would like to get this running with all the bells and whistles...  
>> so please advise.
>> Thank you,
>> Steven Kallstrom



From sebyte at smolny.plus.com  Thu Jan 26 16:49:28 2006
From: sebyte at smolny.plus.com (Sebastian Tennant)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:49:28 +0000
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
Message-ID: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com>

Hi all,

I have a wav file with the following header:

  $ file ia.wav
  ia.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz

I launch snd with the command:

  $ SNDLIB_ALSA_DEVICE="hw:1,0" snd &

beacuse I want snd to use my external USB audio I/O device.  (This
device is configured as the default pcm device in my ~/.asoundrc but
snd seems to ignore this unless I specify the device on the command
line).

However, playback is slow, and I get the following message in the
listener:

  "alsa_audio_open: hw:1,0: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 32000 instead"

Playback is at the correct speed if I don't specify the alsa device on
the command line and audio is routed through my PC's internal
soundcard.

The external USB I/O device is an Edirol UA-3FX and it most definitely
supports 44100, so does anyone have any idea what the problem might
be?

My ~/.asoundrc reads as follows:

  # set Edirol UA-3FX as default hardware device for all alsa aware applications
  pcm.!default{ type hw card 1 device 0 }
  ctl.!default { type hw card 1 device 0 }

  # for OSS apps (e.g., $ aoss realplay)
  pcm.dsp0 { type plug slave.pcm "hw:1,0" }


TIA

sdt

--
Debian GNU/Linux Sarge
$ dpkg -l | grep snd_gtk_alsa
ii  snd-gtk-alsa  7.8-1.1  Sound file editor (GTK+ user interface)



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jan 27 04:06:03 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:06:03 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
In-Reply-To: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
References: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
Message-ID: <20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I don't know much about this issue, but perhaps this is helpful:

http://linux.setcolor.de/ua-5/

It has something about enabling 44100 srate.

I also vaguely remember a discussion about alsa and usb devices in one of the
linux audio lists.



From sebyte at smolny.plus.com  Mon Jan 30 03:04:26 2006
From: sebyte at smolny.plus.com (Sebastian Tennant)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:04:26 +0000
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
In-Reply-To: <20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> (Bill Schottstaedt's
	message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:06:03 -0800")
References: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
	<20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <87fyn6ased.fsf@smolny.plus.com>

"Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

> I don't know much about this issue, but perhaps this is helpful:
>
> http://linux.setcolor.de/ua-5/
>
> It has something about enabling 44100 srate.
>
> I also vaguely remember a discussion about alsa and usb devices in one of the
> linux audio lists.

Thanks for your helpful response Bill, but nothing I do seems to make
any difference.  The strange thing is the sound is fine with every other
application.  For instance, the alsa-aware app, alsaplayer:

  $ alsaplayer -i text -q ia.wav

 works fine with my existing ~/.asoundrc:

  #set Edirol UA-3FX as default hardware device for all alsa aware applications
  pcm.!default { type hw card 1 device 0 }
  ctl.!default { type hw card 1 device 0 }
  #for OSS apps (e.g., $ aoss realplay)
  pcm.dsp0 { type plug slave.pcm "hw:1,0" }

 as does the non-alsa-aware app, play (wrapper to sox):

  $ aoss play ia.wav

 that uses the pcm.dsp0

It's only snd (which doesn't work with aoss, and needs to be called
with SNDLIB_ALSA_DEVICE="hw:1,0") which has trouble setting the rate
correctly.

Hence I suspect the problem is with snd and not with alsa.

sdt



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jan 30 11:00:42 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:00:42 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
In-Reply-To: <87fyn6ased.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
References: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com> <20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <87fyn6ased.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
Message-ID: <20060130185819.M91828@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

Apparently Alsa changed at some point -- I don't immediately find
any mention of it, but I think snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near
now takes a pointer to the srate and returns the new value through
that pointer, so the old code thought an error had occurred when
in fact none had.  I'll update the various versions of audio.c.



From sebyte at smolny.plus.com  Mon Jan 30 16:13:15 2006
From: sebyte at smolny.plus.com (Sebastian Tennant)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:13:15 +0000
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
In-Reply-To: <20060130185819.M91828@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> (Bill Schottstaedt's
	message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:00:42 -0800")
References: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
	<20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <87fyn6ased.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
	<20060130185819.M91828@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <87zmldjlus.fsf@smolny.plus.com>

"Bill Schottstaedt" <bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

> Apparently Alsa changed at some point -- I don't immediately find
> any mention of it, but I think snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near
> now takes a pointer to the srate and returns the new value through
> that pointer, so the old code thought an error had occurred when
> in fact none had.  I'll update the various versions of audio.c.

Let's hope this will address the problem.  Either way I look forward
to testing it.  Will you anounce the change here, or on another
'announce' list?

sdt



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan 31 04:06:39 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:06:39 -0800
Subject: [CM] snd-gtk-alsa "alsa_audio_open: could not set rate to exactly 44100, set to 3200 instead"
In-Reply-To: <87zmldjlus.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
References: <87vew6v6jr.fsf@smolny.plus.com> <20060127120337.M3978@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <87fyn6ased.fsf@smolny.plus.com> <20060130185819.M91828@ccrma.Stanford.EDU> <87zmldjlus.fsf@smolny.plus.com>
Message-ID: <20060131120020.M96406@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

This turns out to messier than I first thought -- the code in audio.c is
using the old api, but somehow the old_pcm.h header is picked up
(I still haven't threaded my way through all the macros; I just
ignored old_pcm.h yesterday), so the code as it was is ok, in that
regard.  I notice that aplay sets the srate before choosing the period
size (and has commented out the reverse method), whereas audio.c
gets the period first.   I'll write a test version that follows aplay.c
slavishly, then get back to you for a test of it.  Thanks for the help!



From sgsofia at myuw.net  Tue Jan 31 14:05:24 2006
From: sgsofia at myuw.net (sal g sofia)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:05:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] Upgrade snd.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601311356350.19160@cicero12.myuw.net>

Hello All,

What would be the best way to upgrade to the
latest SND version, without disturbing the one I have
installed? I am on a Mac OS X version 10.4.4-
Thank you.

Regards,

-Sal



From pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu  Tue Jan 31 14:15:37 2006
From: pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu (Patrick Pagano)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:15:37 -0500
Subject: [CM] Upgrade snd.
Message-ID: <B32ABE8FF24DE349B5DEEC2EFE7887AB01520ACE@exch.orb.arts.ufl.edu>

build it but do not make install

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Digital Media Specialist
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida
(352) 294-2082


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:05 PM
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Subject: [CM] Upgrade snd.



Hello All,

What would be the best way to upgrade to the
latest SND version, without disturbing the one I have
installed? I am on a Mac OS X version 10.4.4-
Thank you.

Regards,

-Sal

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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan 31 14:36:01 2006
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:36:01 -0800
Subject: [CM] Upgrade snd.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601311356350.19160@cicero12.myuw.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601311356350.19160@cicero12.myuw.net>
Message-ID: <20060131223537.M29936@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>

I made a new(er) osx 10.4.4 Snd image -- 

ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/osx-10.4-snd. 

You can also go to an empty directory, untar the Snd tarball, configure 
and build it there, and then put the snd image anywhere. 



From sgsofia at myuw.net  Tue Jan 31 15:46:07 2006
From: sgsofia at myuw.net (sal g sofia)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:46:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [CM] Upgrade snd.
In-Reply-To: <20060131223537.M29936@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601311356350.19160@cicero12.myuw.net>
 <20060131223537.M29936@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601311543370.14305@cicero11.myuw.net>


Thank you.



On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> I made a new(er) osx 10.4.4 Snd image --
>
> ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/osx-10.4-snd.
>
> You can also go to an empty directory, untar the Snd tarball, configure
> and build it there, and then put the snd image anywhere.
>
>



From nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jan 31 17:46:24 2006
From: nando at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:46:24 -0800
Subject: [CM] common music, portmidi, filling up queues?
Message-ID: <1138758384.20956.111.camel@cmn3.stanford.edu>

Hi all, I'm running here a CM snapshot from 2005.12.15 and I'm having
problems with portmidi. It looks like when the portmidi/alsa internal
buffer becomes full Common Music just throws an error and that's it. For
example this plays fine (you have to open the portmidi device first):

(events (process for i from 0 below 250
                 output (new midi :keynum (+ 60 (mod i 40)) :time (now))
                 wait 0.01)
        "midi-port.pm")

add one more note (251 instead of 250):

(events (process for i from 0 below 251
                 output (new midi :keynum (+ 60 (mod i 40)) :time (now))
                 wait 0.01)
        "midi-port.pm")

and I get:
--------
bad argument to ERROR: #.(SB-SYS:INT-SAP #XB7FEBDDD)
   [Condition of type SIMPLE-TYPE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
  1: [ABORT] Exit debugger, returning to top level.

Backtrace:
  0: (SB-KERNEL:COERCE-TO-CONDITION #.(SB-SYS:INT-SAP #XB7FEBDDD) NIL
SIMPLE-ERROR ERROR)
  1: (ERROR #.(SB-SYS:INT-SAP #XB7FEBDDD))
  2: (PORTMIDI:WRITESHORT #.(SB-SYS:INT-SAP #X082809F0) 3094653 8340864)
[MUNCH]
--------

Using "(rts" instead minimizes the chance of this happening but the
error can be triggered...

What could I do about this (other than sending few notes :-)?
-- Fernando