From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jul  1 03:58:24 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:58:24 +0200
Subject: [CM] dopairs
Message-ID: <20030701105823.GA1689@finnendahl.de>

Hi Rick,

using your dopairs macro I noticed the following behaviour:

    (dopairs (x y '(1 2 3 4 5))
             (begin
              (display (list x y))
              (newline)))

    guile> (1 2)
    (3 4)
    <unnamed port>: In procedure cadr in expression (cadr #{\ g75}#):
    <unnamed port>: Wrong type argument in position 1: ()
    ABORT: (wrong-type-arg)

    Type "(backtrace)" to get more information or "(debug)" to enter the debugger.

I think, the error of an uneven pair list should get caught and assume
it's due to a typo in the fourth last line of the dopairs definition.

To fix this, change that line:

-   (if (null? ,a)

into

+   (if (null? (cdr ,a))

After replacement:

    (dopairs (x y '(1 2 3 4 5))
             (begin
              (display (list x y))
              (newline)))

    guile> (1 2)
    (3 4)
    <unnamed port>: In procedure error in expression (error str):
    <unnamed port>: Uneven pair list: (1 2 3 4 5)
    ABORT: (misc-error)
    guile> 

--
Orm


From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jul  1 04:03:06 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:03:06 +0200
Subject: [CM] cm-2.4.0-cvs and guile
Message-ID: <20030701110306.GB1689@finnendahl.de>

Hi,

trying to load the latest cm.scm from cvs into guile-1.6.0 the process
dies with the following error:

; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/guile.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/goops.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/level1.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/loop.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/utils.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/mop.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/objects.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/io.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/scheduler.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/sco.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/clm.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/clm2.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi1.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi2.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi3.scm
; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/cmn.scm
ERROR: Unbound variable: <standard-object>

Process scheme exited abnormally with code 2
ERROR: In procedure open-file:
ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/local/lisp/cm/src/cm.scm"

Process scheme exited abnormally with code 2





Is it me?

--
Orm


From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  1 04:49:39 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:49:39 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm-2.4.0-cvs and guile
In-Reply-To: <20030701110306.GB1689@finnendahl.de>
Message-ID: <1845E83E-ABBA-11D7-8BF6-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

oh sorry!. i dont think that cmn.scm should be loaded (yet...) please 
try commenting out that line and then load
again. im almost done with the re-editing the doc tree for the final 
release, once
thats done ill test all the nm examples in the various lisps.

On Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003, at 06:03 America/Chicago, Orm Finnendahl wrote:

> Hi,
>
> trying to load the latest cm.scm from cvs into guile-1.6.0 the process
> dies with the following error:
>
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/guile.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/goops.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/level1.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/loop.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/utils.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/mop.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/objects.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/io.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/scheduler.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/sco.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/clm.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/clm2.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi1.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi2.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/midi3.scm
> ; Loading: /usr/local/lisp/cm/src/cmn.scm
> ERROR: Unbound variable: <standard-object>
>
> Process scheme exited abnormally with code 2
> ERROR: In procedure open-file:
> ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/local/lisp/cm/src/cm.scm"
>
> Process scheme exited abnormally with code 2
>
>
>
>
>
> Is it me?
>
> --
> Orm
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> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  1 05:02:41 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:02:41 -0500
Subject: [CM] dopairs
In-Reply-To: <20030701105823.GA1689@finnendahl.de>
Message-ID: <EA792A4E-ABBB-11D7-8BF6-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

yes, thank you! ill make the change in cvs right away. btw dopairs 
should allow any number of forms in its body so your explicit (begin 
...) is not necessary.

(dopairs (x y '(a 1 b 2 c 3))
   (display x)
   (display y)
   ...)



> I think, the error of an uneven pair list should get caught and assume
> it's due to a typo in the fourth last line of the dopairs definition.
>
> To fix this, change that line:
>
> -   (if (null? ,a)
>
> into
>
> +   (if (null? (cdr ,a))
>
> After replacement:
>
>     (dopairs (x y '(1 2 3 4 5))
>              (begin
>               (display (list x y))
>               (newline)))
>
>     guile> (1 2)
>     (3 4)
>     <unnamed port>: In procedure error in expression (error str):
>     <unnamed port>: Uneven pair list: (1 2 3 4 5)
>     ABORT: (misc-error)
>     guile>
>
> --
> Orm
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From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul  1 05:06:34 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: 01 Jul 2003 05:06:34 -0700
Subject: [CM] sndins library by Michael Scholz
Message-ID: <1057061193.3048.2.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>

Michael Scholz has written a library called sndins that
packages up C versions of some instruments and calls them
in notelists.  Here's part of the README file:

"The C/XEN library `libsndins.so' provides the instrument FM-VIOLIN and
the reverberators JC-REVERB, NREV, and FREEVERB to use them in longer
notelists in Snd/Guile and Snd/Ruby.  They are not so fast as the
ffi-lisp versions, at least not on my machine, but they run much
faster than the Scheme or Ruby variants.  In addition I have added the
FCOMB example from sndscm.html which is used in freeverb."

It's at ccrma-ftp as sndins-1.0.0.tar.gz.  





From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jul  1 06:24:38 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:24:38 +0200
Subject: [CM] score file empty
Message-ID: <20030701132438.GA2017@finnendahl.de>

Hi Rick,

thanks for the hint with dopairs.

The examples of the chapter "Beyond MIDI" don't work on my
machine. Evaluating the blur example results in a score file which
contains the function table definition but no note events at all.

Here's the input to guile:

(begin
  (set-sco-output-hook! #'play-sco-file)
  (defobject i1 (i)
    (amp
     freq
     (attack :initform .05)
     (release :initform .25))
    (:parameters time dur amp freq attack release))

  (define sco-header  ; define a score file header string
    "f1 0 8192 10 0.0  0.41 0.06 0.04 0.00 0.11 0.02 0.00 0.00")
  
  (define (blur )
    (process repeat 100
             output (new i1 :time (now) 
                         :freq (between 20 2000) ; Hertz
                         :dur .4 :amp .1)
             wait .015))
  

  (events (blur) "blur.sco" 0
          :header sco-header
          :options "-d -m0 -A"
          :orchestra "blur.orc" 
          :output "blur.aiff")
)  


From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  1 06:46:25 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:46:25 -0500
Subject: [CM] score file empty 
Message-ID: <682A8418-ABCA-11D7-BBFB-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

ok thanks, let me poke at it and see whats going wrong. ill try to fix 
it in cvs today.

On Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003, at 08:24 America/Chicago, Orm Finnendahl wrote:

> Hi Rick,
>
> thanks for the hint with dopairs.
>
> The examples of the chapter "Beyond MIDI" don't work on my
> machine. Evaluating the blur example results in a score file which
> contains the function table definition but no note events at all.
>
> Here's the input to guile:
>
> (begin
>   (set-sco-output-hook! #'play-sco-file)
>   (defobject i1 (i)
>     (amp
>      freq
>      (attack :initform .05)
>      (release :initform .25))
>     (:parameters time dur amp freq attack release))
>
>   (define sco-header  ; define a score file header string
>     "f1 0 8192 10 0.0  0.41 0.06 0.04 0.00 0.11 0.02 0.00 0.00")
>
>   (define (blur )
>     (process repeat 100
>              output (new i1 :time (now)
>                          :freq (between 20 2000) ; Hertz
>                          :dur .4 :amp .1)
>              wait .015))
>
>
>   (events (blur) "blur.sco" 0
>           :header sco-header
>           :options "-d -m0 -A"
>           :orchestra "blur.orc"
>           :output "blur.aiff")
> )
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul  2 03:05:48 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:05:48 -0500
Subject: [CM] score file empty
In-Reply-To: <20030701132438.GA2017@finnendahl.de>
Message-ID: <C10F7A81-AC74-11D7-BA1F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

On Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003, at 08:24 America/Chicago, Orm Finnendahl wrote:
>
> The examples of the chapter "Beyond MIDI" don't work on my
> machine. Evaluating the blur example results in a score file which
> contains the function table definition but no note events at all.

Orm, the csound blur example works fine for me in Guile 1.6.1/Mac OSX. 
What version/os are you using ?

---
; Common Music 2.4.0 output on 02 Jul 2003, 04:59:34
f1 0 8192 10 0.0  0.41 0.06 0.04 0.00 0.11 0.02 0.00 0.00
i1 0 0.4 0.1 1863 0.05 0.25
i1 0.015 0.4 0.1 641 0.05 0.25
i1 0.03 0.4 0.1 1464 0.05 0.25
i1 0.045 0.4 0.1 1637 0.05 0.25
i1 0.06 0.4 0.1 985 0.05 0.25
i1 0.075 0.4 0.1 1530 0.05 0.25
i1 0.09 0.4 0.1 1803 0.05 0.25
i1 0.105 0.4 0.1 1345 0.05 0.25
i1 0.12 0.4 0.1 104 0.05 0.25
i1 0.135 0.4 0.1 766 0.05 0.25



From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Wed Jul  2 03:15:42 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:15:42 +0200
Subject: [CM] score file empty
In-Reply-To: <C10F7A81-AC74-11D7-BA1F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
References: <20030701132438.GA2017@finnendahl.de> <C10F7A81-AC74-11D7-BA1F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20030702101542.GB1047@finnendahl.de>

Hi Rick,

Am Mittwoch, den 02. Juli 2003 um 05:05:48 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Rick Taube:
> Orm, the csound blur example works fine for me in Guile 1.6.1/Mac OSX. 
> What version/os are you using ?

it's working now. I took the file beyond.cm and evaluated step by step
and now output is there. Sorry for the noise. I don't know why it
didn't work yesterday.

BTW I'm using linux/guile-1.6.0 and latest cvs of cm.

--
Orm

P.S.: Your book is great! I'm using it in my courses in Essen and the
students seem to be quite happy.


From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Wed Jul  2 03:37:38 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:37:38 +0200
Subject: [CM] scorefile, guile and nil
Message-ID: <20030702103738.GA1157@finnendahl.de>

Hi Rick,

using the score file mechanism, I get a format error as format tries to
write to nil as destination which is undefined in scheme.

FORMAT: error with call: (format nil "<===i~a" ===>1 )
        illegal destination `nil'
<unnamed port>: In procedure error in expression (error "error in format"):
<unnamed port>: error in format
ABORT: (misc-error)
guile>




After doing (define nil #f) it works. 

Should this be done globally e.g. at startup of scheme?


--
Orm


From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul  2 03:57:06 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:57:06 -0500
Subject: [CM] scorefile, guile and nil
In-Reply-To: <20030702103738.GA1157@finnendahl.de>
Message-ID: <EBCB7AC9-AC7B-11D7-8BDD-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

>
> After doing (define nil #f) it works.
>
> Should this be done globally e.g. at startup of scheme?

hi -- no dont do this. any 'nil' you find in cm's scheme source code is 
a bug. it should either be #f or (), depending on whether 'nil' is 
standing for boolean false or the empty list in the current context. if 
you find a nil, please let me know which file. or maybe i should grep 
the sources right now

btw  if portability is an issue for your class, cm defines 'true' and 
'false' variables so that you dont have to hardwire boolan values like 
#f or nil in your code

> using the score file mechanism, I get a format error as format tries to
> write to nil as destination which is undefined in scheme.
>
> FORMAT: error with call: (format nil "<===i~a" ===>1 )
>         illegal destination `nil'
> <unnamed port>: In procedure error in expression (error "error in 
> format"):
> <unnamed port>: error in format
> ABORT: (misc-error)
> guile>
>
>
>
>
> After doing (define nil #f) it works.
>
> Should this be done globally e.g. at startup of scheme?
>
>
> --
> Orm
> _______________________________________________
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul  2 03:58:13 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:58:13 -0500
Subject: [CM] scorefile, guile and nil
In-Reply-To: <20030702103738.GA1157@finnendahl.de>
Message-ID: <136404A4-AC7C-11D7-8BDD-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

On Wednesday, Jul 2, 2003, at 05:37 America/Chicago, Orm Finnendahl 
wrote:

> FORMAT: error with call: (format nil "<===i~a" ===>1 )
>

do (format #f "<===i~a" ===>" 1)
or (format false "<===i~a" ===>" 1)





From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul  2 06:33:40 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:33:40 -0500
Subject: [CM] scorefile, guile and nil
Message-ID: <CAFBE616-AC91-11D7-BA1A-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

oh thanks! ill fix in cvs right away but sourceforge may cause some 
delays until you actaully get the revisions with 'cvs update' so ill 
update the tarfile at ccrma as well...



On Wednesday, Jul 2, 2003, at 07:28 America/Chicago, Orm Finnendahl 
wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 02. Juli 2003 um 05:57:06 Uhr (-0500) schrieb Rick 
> Taube:
>>
>> if you find a nil, please let me know which file. or maybe i should
>> grep the sources right now
>
> I found 3 files:
>
> orm at grisey:/usr/local/lisp/cm/src$ grep "(format nil" *.scm
> midi1.scm:          (format stream (format nil "~~~d at t"
> patterns.scm:        (gvar (string->symbol (format nil "<~a>"
> sco.scm:    (format nil "i~a" (slot-ref obj 'ins))
> sco.scm:    (format nil "f~a" (slot-ref obj 'num))
> spectral.scm:;     (format t (format nil "~~%C: ~A, M: ~A, C/M: ~~S" 
> fmat fmat)
> spectral.scm:;       (format t (format nil "~~%~A~~10,3f" fmat)
> orm at grisey:/usr/local/lisp/cm/src$
>
>> btw  if portability is an issue for your class, cm defines 'true' and
>> 'false' variables so that you dont have to hardwire boolan values like
>> #f or nil in your code
>
> that's convenient. So what's the way to change the sources? Should I
> hardwire #f in the sco.scm and such, or should I use 'false'?
>
>
> --
> Orm



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jul  4 04:44:09 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: 04 Jul 2003 04:44:09 -0700
Subject: [CM] double-float in clm in cmucl/clisp
Message-ID: <1057319049.14338.4.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>

just a "heads-up" for CLM-ers using cmucl or clisp -- due to
aggravating package problems, the old "double-float" function
is now named "double".  Other lisps can use either the new
name or the old one.  "make-double-float-array" has a synonym
"make-double-array". 




From johannes.quint at web.de  Fri Jul  4 11:41:19 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:41:19 +0200
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
Message-ID: <1A021502-AE4F-11D7-BD36-000393B906B6@web.de>

(i am new with opensource, so maybe this is a trivial question...:)

trying to launch cm with openmcl via xemacs, i get the following error:

/Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: [: too many arguments
logout
/Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: xemacs: command not found
[Process completed]

have i to set pathnames?

thanks for help

j.quint

__

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul  4 11:55:28 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:55:28 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <1A021502-AE4F-11D7-BD36-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <141E328D-AE51-11D7-A56F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

could be a combination of things, including my script (which tries to 
test for xemacs and supposedly exits if it cant find it.)
it appears you are runnin on osx. Do you actually have Apple's  x11.app 
  and Xemacs installed. in the terminal type:
	which xemacs
to see if you have it in your path.

On Friday, Jul 4, 2003, at 13:41 America/Chicago, Johannes Quint wrote:

> (i am new with opensource, so maybe this is a trivial question...:)
>
> trying to launch cm with openmcl via xemacs, i get the following error:
>
> /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: [: too many arguments
> logout
> /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: xemacs: command not found
> [Process completed]
>
> have i to set pathnames?
>
> thanks for help
>
> j.quint
>
> __
>
> Johannes Quint
> Rilkestr.55
> D-53225 Bonn
> 0228 468256
> johannes.quint at web.de
> http://private.addcom.de/j.quint/index.htm



From finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de  Fri Jul  4 12:03:56 2003
From: finnendahl at folkwang-hochschule.de (Orm Finnendahl)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 21:03:56 +0200
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <1A021502-AE4F-11D7-BD36-000393B906B6@web.de>
References: <1A021502-AE4F-11D7-BD36-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <20030704190356.GA4775@finnendahl.de>

Am Freitag, den 04. Juli 2003 um 20:41:19 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Johannes Quint:
> 
> (i am new with opensource, so maybe this is a trivial question...:)
> trying to launch cm with openmcl via xemacs, i get the following error:
> /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: [: too many arguments
> logout
> /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm: xemacs: command not found

The error seems to imply that the process, who tries to call xemacs,
doesn't find the binary. This can be due to:

1. The binary isn't installed

2. The binary is installed in a location, where it isn't found by the
   calling process.

To troubleshoot it:

Try to launch xemacs from a terminal by typing 'xemacs' at the
prompt. If that works, try to launch the process which is going to
start xemacs (openmcl?) from the very same terminal. If it didn't work
in the first place, check the $PATH variable with the command 
'echo $PATH'. This command lists the paths, which are checked by the
shell to start programs. If the Path containing xemacs isn't
contained, you either copy/move the xemacs binary into any seen path
(dirty), or set a link to the binary in a seen path (less dirty), or
add the path of the xemacs binary to your $PATH environment
variable (e.g. in bash: 'export PATH={$PATH}:<xemacs_path><cr>')

BTW what I explained is not exactly open source, it's plain unix.

--
Orm


From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul  4 12:50:09 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:50:09 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <B909B091-AE56-11D7-963C-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <B7CEA698-AE58-11D7-A56F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

If you want to work on OSX with CLM and CM etc then you need to install 
some stuff first. I sent a note to the list awhile back detailing 
exactly what you had to do, maybe someone still has a copy of that 
message and can repost, or maybe you can look in the cmdist archive. 
basically you have to:

	download/install Apple's beta 3 of Xemacs 
(http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/)
	download/install Apples Developer Tools 
(http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/)
	download/install fink (http://fink.sf.net) and then Xemacs 
(http://fink.sfe.net/pdb/package.php/xemacs-sumo-pkg

> (oh i fear i have to go back to os 9...)

now now dont panic. it will all work out...



From carl.boingie at rcn.com  Fri Jul  4 12:48:31 2003
From: carl.boingie at rcn.com (Carl Edwards)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:48:31 -0400
Subject: [CM] sequence help
Message-ID: <001b01c34265$6f51d570$a7e27ad1@laptop>

This is basic and probably trivial, but for some reason I'm having a tough
time figuring it out. Maybe one of ya'll can point out the error of my
ways...

I'd like to be able to take a few simple processes and sequence them into a
single midi file. The problem is that I don't know the amount of time that
the first process will take up and I'd like the second process to begin on
the next beat. I guess it's just not clear to me how to feed the events
function a list of things to do one-after-another.

Should I (is it possible to...) have each process write it's last "now" to a
global variable?

I'm probably missing something very obvious. Any help would be appreciated.

Carl Edwards




From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul  4 13:21:46 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:21:46 -0500
Subject: [CM] sequence help
In-Reply-To: <001b01c34265$6f51d570$a7e27ad1@laptop>
Message-ID: <2266B3DE-AE5D-11D7-9EC2-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

you can use the 'finally' option to chain processes together like so:

(define (doit )
   (process repeat (random 300)
            output (new ...)
            wait (whatever)
            finally (sprout (doit) (now))))

that is, the last thing the current process does is to sprout a new 
process that starts at its current time.  a more genereal solution 
would be for me to reimpleent the functionality of the old 'thread' 
container. this is actually on my 'todo' list, unfortunately that list 
is very long!



On Friday, Jul 4, 2003, at 14:48 America/Chicago, Carl Edwards wrote:

>
> This is basic and probably trivial, but for some reason I'm having a 
> tough
> time figuring it out. Maybe one of ya'll can point out the error of my
> ways...
>
> I'd like to be able to take a few simple processes and sequence them 
> into a
> single midi file. The problem is that I don't know the amount of time 
> that
> the first process will take up and I'd like the second process to 
> begin on
> the next beat. I guess it's just not clear to me how to feed the events
> function a list of things to do one-after-another.
>
> Should I (is it possible to...) have each process write it's last 
> "now" to a
> global variable?
>
> I'm probably missing something very obvious. Any help would be 
> appreciated.
>
> Carl Edwards
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist



From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul  4 13:31:59 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:31:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <B1D34636-AE5B-11D7-9BD9-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <8FF929E8-AE5E-11D7-9EC2-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

>
> yesterday i've downloaded xemacs from this site:
> http://www.xemacs.org/Download/index.html
> is this another version as yours?

yes. if you read the xemacs homepage they probably dont support osx. So 
you should install all X Windows and Linux apps for ISX via Fink. The 
Fink project makes Linux and Xwindoes software avaialble to compile and 
run on OSX. Fink is built on top of the debian apt-get tool set, except 
that after it downloads software it pathches the sources to compile and 
run on OSX. Fink also has binary releases of its 'stable' software 
pacakges, these you can download and then run.  There is also a GUI to 
Fink. I dont use it myself, but Google 'fink commander' for more info. 
Perhaps at some point in the future projects like Xemacs and Guile will 
provide that their own software runs on OSX, but  until then use Fink.



From johannes.quint at web.de  Fri Jul  4 14:34:18 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:34:18 +0200
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <8FF929E8-AE5E-11D7-9EC2-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <44741762-AE67-11D7-B130-000393B906B6@web.de>


On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 10:31 PM, Rick Taube wrote:

>
>>
>> yesterday i've downloaded xemacs from this site:
>>
>> is this another version as yours?
>
> yes. if you read the xemacs homepage they probably dont support osx. 
> So you should install all X Windows and Linux apps for ISX via Fink. 
> The Fink project makes Linux and Xwindoes software avaialble to 
> compile and run on OSX. Fink is built on top of the debian apt-get 
> tool set, except that after it downloads software it pathches the 
> sources to compile and run on OSX. Fink also has binary releases of 
> its 'stable' software pacakges, these you can download and then run.  
> There is also a GUI to Fink. I dont use it myself, but Google 'fink 
> commander' for more info. Perhaps at some point in the future projects 
> like Xemacs and Guile will provide that their own software runs on 
> OSX, but  until then use Fink.
>


http://fink.sfe.net/pdb/package.php/xemacs-sumo-pkg: this link seems to 
work no more. but on the fink site there is a link to www.xemacs.org, 
so i hope thats ok (xemacs _alone_ can be launched on my computer...).

>  I sent a note to the list awhile back detailing exactly what you had 
> to do

did you remember the month?

thanks again
j.

__

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Fri Jul  4 15:50:23 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:50:23 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <44741762-AE67-11D7-B130-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <000901c3427e$a7d1c180$a5197e82@music.uiuc.edu>


 > http://fink.sfe.net/pdb/package.php/xemacs-sumo-pkg: this link seems
to work no more. but on the fink site there is a link to www.xemacs.org,
so i hope thats ok (xemacs _alone_ can be launched on my computer...).
 
i dont knoe. i installed xemacs via fink but i did this months ago. but
fink will work you just have to learn something about it. after
installing fink  i simply typed 'fink install xemacs' 
 
 >did you remember the month?  
 
probably april or may
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From fdowling at tcd.ie  Fri Jul  4 16:51:23 2003
From: fdowling at tcd.ie (fdowling)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:51:23 +0100
Subject: [CM] cart to polar
Message-ID: <3F306F38@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie>

Hi,
Is there a function that returns the polar value from cartesian co-ords?
Cheers,
Fergal Dowling.



From carl.boingie at rcn.com  Fri Jul  4 15:25:19 2003
From: carl.boingie at rcn.com (Carl Edwards)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:25:19 -0400
Subject: [CM] sequence help
References: <2266B3DE-AE5D-11D7-9EC2-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <000701c34289$be9cdd90$7be27ad1@laptop>

That works! Thank you, Rick.

I'll have to look up the old thread function to see what that did, but in
the meantime this is working just fine.

Thanks again,

Carl Edwards



> Subject: Re: [CM] sequence help
>

> you can use the 'finally' option to chain processes together like so:
>
> (define (doit )
>    (process repeat (random 300)
>             output (new ...)
>             wait (whatever)
>             finally (sprout (doit) (now))))
>
> that is, the last thing the current process does is to sprout a new
> process that starts at its current time.  a more genereal solution
> would be for me to reimpleent the functionality of the old 'thread'
> container. this is actually on my 'todo' list, unfortunately that list
> is very long!





From andersvi at notam02.no  Sun Jul  6 03:54:04 2003
From: andersvi at notam02.no (Anders Vinjar)
Date: 06 Jul 2003 12:54:04 +0200
Subject: [CM] cart to polar
In-Reply-To: <3F306F38@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie>
References: <3F306F38@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie>
Message-ID: <m1wuewx6wj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

>>>>> "f" == fdowling  <fdowling at tcd.ie> writes:

    f> Hi, Is there a function that returns the polar value from
    f> cartesian co-ords?  Cheers, Fergal Dowling.

> (defun cartesian-to-polar (coords)
   (let* ((x (car coords))
          (y (cadr coords))
          (r (sqrt (+ (expt x 2) (expt y 2))))
          (ang (- (atan y x))))
     (list r ang)))


CARTESIAN-TO-POLAR

> (cartesian-to-polar (list 1 1))

(1.4142135 -0.7853982)


From f.stafek at volny.cz  Sun Jul  6 13:37:58 2003
From: f.stafek at volny.cz (frantisek stafek)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:37:58 +0200
Subject: [CM] CLM under windows
References: <B9A578A2-AAF6-11D7-989F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <012b01c343fe$7d846a50$6547b13e@ffff>



> >
> >
> >> Or does CLM work better with Lispworks under Windows 2000?
> >
> > I don't know anything about this.
>
> when i last looked (a while ago) the free lispworks for windows was a
> joke, it had a small heapsize and a "session time limit" as well.
> there really isnt a good free lisp solution on windows -- clisp is the
> closest but its FFI is hopeless. i think there is a native guile in the
> works for windows, you might consider using the clm/snd code using that
> at some point.
>

Anyone tried to work with CLM under Corman Lisp (free for noncomertial use)?


Frantisek Stafek






From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  8 03:35:21 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:35:21 -0500
Subject: [CM] Re: Can't get simple CLM instrument working :(
In-Reply-To: <000001c34538$d2da8fd0$254040ab@roboserv1>
Message-ID: <E04D8792-B12F-11D7-8D44-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

> When I type '(compile-file "v.ins")' at the LISP prompt (running ACL

Sounds like either you dont have the file located in your home 
directory or ACL's working directory isnt set to your home directory. 
First, determine that the  file is actually where you expect it to be.  
Next, try specifying the full pathname to the file to compile and load 
it in Lisp.  For example, on my account at ccrma i would do:
	(compile-file "/amd/cm-home/user/h/hkt/v.ins")
assuming that v.ins was in my home directory.  I think ACL might 
support the unix "~/" short-cut for home directory specification. ACL 
also has a feature that lets you set its working director, if you are 
running in an image with common music installed you can do:
	(cd "/whereever")
	(compile-file "v.ins")



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul  8 05:11:52 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: 08 Jul 2003 05:11:52 -0700
Subject: [CM] Re: Can't get simple CLM instrument working :(
In-Reply-To: <000001c34538$d2da8fd0$254040ab@roboserv1>
References: <000001c34538$d2da8fd0$254040ab@roboserv1>
Message-ID: <1057666312.6467.12.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>

> I don't know whether Bill's CLM instruments are "built-in" to (and
> hence automatically loaded with) the CLM bin file found at
> /usr/ccrma/lbin/cm2/clm2, or whether I have to manually load them.

*clm-instruments* is a list of the currently loaded instruments.  The
clm2 image at ccrma doesn't have any loaded by default.  To compile
one, copy it to your current directory, then (compile-file ...) --
the tutorial is written from the point of view of someone who has
just untarred the CLM tarball and built CLM.




From johannes.quint at web.de  Tue Jul  8 15:17:54 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 00:17:54 +0200
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <B7CEA698-AE58-11D7-A56F-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <05AA6FE6-B192-11D7-8A94-000393B906B6@web.de>


On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 09:50 PM, Rick Taube wrote:

> If you want to work on OSX with CLM and CM etc then you need to 
> install some stuff first. I sent a note to the list awhile back 
> detailing exactly what you had to do, maybe someone still has a copy 
> of that message and can repost, or maybe you can look in the cmdist 
> archive. basically you have to:
>
> 	download/install Apple's beta 3 of Xemacs 
> (http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/)
> 	download/install Apples Developer Tools 
> (http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/)
> 	download/install fink (http://fink.sf.net) and then Xemacs 
> (http://fink.sfe.net/pdb/package.php/xemacs-sumo-pkg
>

after downloading all, now my error-message has changed:

typing:

open /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm

i get:

/Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm; exit
Welcome to Darwin!
[Johannes-Quints-Computer:~] johannes% /Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/xcm; 
exit
logout
[Process completed]

and nothing happens..

what's now my mistake?

tanks again jq
__

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
http://private.addcom.de/j.quint/index.htm
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  8 15:28:41 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:28:41 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <05AA6FE6-B192-11D7-8A94-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <874E8DBE-B193-11D7-A7BA-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

 >what's now my mistake?

dunno yet. Is X11 running before you try to use Xemacs?
what happens when you type this in the Terminal:
	xemacs



From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul  8 15:50:59 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:50:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <29C968F2-B195-11D7-8A94-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <A4B5C742-B196-11D7-9BBE-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

it looks to me like you dont have X11 running, that is xemacs in 
running in your shell!  I dont know where you installed the X11 app, 
look in Applications/X11
and double-click it.  Once X11 is running, type xemacs in a terminal.




From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul  9 08:21:45 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:21:45 -0500
Subject: [CM] cm with openmcl and xemacs
In-Reply-To: <0BC1B740-B215-11D7-8CEC-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <000501c3462d$cfca4c40$821c7e82@music.uiuc.edu>

Im glad you got it working. You can add the X11.app to your login tasks
so that you dont ever have to start it by hand  Once you get familiar
with Xemacs+OpenMCL  I would be suprised if you didnt   prefer it to
MCL. . 
 
> that's it. cm works now. everything looks quite different as in the
mcl 4.2 days, but that's a matter of time.  
> i've still problems with the cmn-preview, but that's not so urgent in
the moment. 
> thanks again for your help.
> 
> johannes quint


 
 
 
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From f.stafek at volny.cz  Wed Jul  9 14:19:42 2003
From: f.stafek at volny.cz (frantisek stafek)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:19:42 +0200
Subject: [CM] CLM under windows - building with CLISP+MINGW
References: <007701c33d59$47eaa6d0$0241ebd5@ffff> <1056975532.23706.0.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <006301c3465f$d0fa2e00$5048b13e@ffff>

> I use the cygnus gcc.  I'd actually be very interested to
> find out what Borland C says about the sndlib/clm code.

I've downloaded mingw distribution of gnu tools along with gcc,
and trying to build CLM with clisp. I've uncomented
(pushnew :no-ffi *features*) line,
also changed line with several defvars to point to compiler:

(defvar *ld* #+windoze "c:/programy/mingw/bin/ld" #+openmcl "cc" #-(or
opencml windoze) "ld")
(defvar *cc* #+windoze "c:/programy/mingw/bin/gcc" #-windoze "cc")

, also changed line with clisp-shell defun to work properly with win2000
shell:
#+(and clisp ansi-cl) (defun clisp-shell (arg) (ext:shell (format nil "cmd
/c ~A" arg)))

but somehow I'm still not able to finish the build process. Any hint, how to
continue?
It hangs with following:

[5]> (load "c:/programy/clm/clm-2/all.lisp")
;; Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\all.lisp ...
;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\clm-loop.fas ...
;;  Loading of file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\clm-loop.fas is finished.
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\nio.c"
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\nheaders.c"
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\naudio.c"
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7062:19: mmreg.h: No such file or directory
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c: In function `mfg':
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7399: `MM_MICROSOFT' undeclared (first use in
thi
s function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7399: (Each undeclared identifier is reported
onl
y once
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7399: for each function it appears in.)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7399: `MM_CREATIVE' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7400: `MM_MEDIAVISION' undeclared (first use
in t
his function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7400: `MM_FUJITSU' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7401: `MM_ARTISOFT' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7401: `MM_TURTLE_BEACH' undeclared (first use
in
this function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7402: `MM_IBM' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7402: `MM_VOCALTEC' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7403: `MM_ROLAND' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7403: `MM_DSP_SOLUTIONS' undeclared (first
use in
 this function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7404: `MM_NEC' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7404: `MM_ATI' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7405: `MM_WANGLABS' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7405: `MM_TANDY' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7406: `MM_VOYETRA' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7406: `MM_ANTEX' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7407: `MM_ICL_PS' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7407: `MM_INTEL' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7408: `MM_GRAVIS' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7408: `MM_VAL' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7409: `MM_INTERACTIVE' undeclared (first use
in t
his function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7409: `MM_YAMAHA' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7410: `MM_EVEREX' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7410: `MM_ECHO' undeclared (first use in this
fun
ction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7411: `MM_SIERRA' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7411: `MM_CAT' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7412: `MM_APPS' undeclared (first use in this
fun
ction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7412: `MM_DSP_GROUP' undeclared (first use in
thi
s function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7413: `MM_MELABS' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7413: `MM_COMPUTER_FRIENDS' undeclared (first
use
 in this function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7414: `MM_ESS' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7414: `MM_AUDIOFILE' undeclared (first use in
thi
s function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7415: `MM_MOTOROLA' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7415: `MM_CANOPUS' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7416: `MM_EPSON' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7416: `MM_TRUEVISION' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7417: `MM_AZTECH' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7417: `MM_VIDEOLOGIC' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7418: `MM_SCALACS' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7418: `MM_KORG' undeclared (first use in this
fun
ction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7419: `MM_APT' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7419: `MM_ICS' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7420: `MM_ITERATEDSYS' undeclared (first use
in t
his function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7420: `MM_METHEUS' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7421: `MM_LOGITECH' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7421: `MM_WINNOV' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7422: `MM_NCR' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7422: `MM_EXAN' undeclared (first use in this
fun
ction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7423: `MM_AST' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7423: `MM_WILLOWPOND' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7424: `MM_SONICFOUNDRY' undeclared (first use
in
this function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7424: `MM_VITEC' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7425: `MM_MOSCOM' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7425: `MM_SILICONSOFT' undeclared (first use
in t
his function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7426: `MM_SUPERMAC' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7426: `MM_AUDIOPT' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7427: `MM_SPEECHCOMP' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7427: `MM_DOLBY' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7428: `MM_OKI' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7428: `MM_AURAVISION' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7429: `MM_OLIVETTI' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7429: `MM_IOMAGIC' undeclared (first use in
this
function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7430: `MM_MATSUSHITA' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7430: `MM_CONTROLRES' undeclared (first use
in th
is function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7431: `MM_XEBEC' undeclared (first use in
this fu
nction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7431: `MM_NEWMEDIA' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7432: `MM_NMS' undeclared (first use in this
func
tion)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7432: `MM_LYRRUS' undeclared (first use in
this f
unction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7433: `MM_COMPUSIC' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7433: `MM_OPTI' undeclared (first use in this
fun
ction)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7434: `MM_DIALOGIC' undeclared (first use in
this
 function)
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c: In function `describe_audio_state_1':
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7709: warning: passing arg 1 of
`mixerGetLineInfo
A' from incompatible pointer type
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7715: warning: passing arg 1 of
`mixerGetLineInfo
A' from incompatible pointer type
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7750: warning: passing arg 1 of
`mixerGetLineCont
rolsA' from incompatible pointer type
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7779: warning: passing arg 1 of
`mixerGetControlD
etailsA' from incompatible pointer type
C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7814: warning: passing arg 1 of
`mixerGetControlD
etailsA' from incompatible pointer type
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\nsound.c"
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\lispcall.c"
; Compiling "C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\ncmus.c"
;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\walk.fas ...
;;  Loading of file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\walk.fas is finished.
;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\special-form-for-cmu.cl ...
;;  Loading of file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\special-form-for-cmu.cl is
finished.
;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\clm-package.fas ...
;;  Loading of file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\clm-package.fas is finished.
;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\initmus.fas ...
*** - READ: input stream
#<INPUT BUFFERED FILE-STREAM CHARACTER
  #P"C:\\programy\\clm\\clm-2\\initmus.fas" @427> ends within an object.
Last op
ening parenthesis probably in line 424.
1. Break CLM[6]>

Thanks for any remark,
    Frantisek Stafek




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jul 11 04:52:41 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: 11 Jul 2003 04:52:41 -0700
Subject: [CM] CLM under windows - building with CLISP+MINGW
In-Reply-To: <006301c3465f$d0fa2e00$5048b13e@ffff>
References: <007701c33d59$47eaa6d0$0241ebd5@ffff>
	 <1056975532.23706.0.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>
	 <006301c3465f$d0fa2e00$5048b13e@ffff>
Message-ID: <1057924361.2866.0.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>

> C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7062:19: mmreg.h: No such file
> or directory

I removed the dependency on this file -- apparently it was only
used to pass back a manufacturer name.

> C:/programy/clm/clm-2/naudio.c:7709: warning: passing arg 1 of
> `mixerGetLineInfo

Something has changed since Windows 98... Can you find the 
declaration for this function in mmsystem.h (or MMSYSTEM.H)
and send it to me?  I had a Windows 2000 setup for about 
an hour, but accidentally clobbered it while installing
Linux, so I never saw the new version of mmsystem.h --
if possible, send me the whole file.

> ;;  Loading file C:\programy\clm\clm-2\initmus.fas ...
> *** - READ: input stream

I don't see the initmus.lisp compilation in the output you
sent -- did it report any error?





From johannes.quint at addcom.de  Fri Jul 11 16:17:47 2003
From: johannes.quint at addcom.de (johannes.quint)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:17:47 +0200
Subject: [CM] midishare
Message-ID: <E20593DB-B3F5-11D7-8D0D-000393B906B6@addcom.de>

going on installing the whole env. i have problems with midishare now.
i've tried a bit to find the cause by myself, maybe ths can help to 
clarify it:

the test
(probe-file
               
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare"))
returns nil
[midishare is installed in /Applications/ccl/darwin-headers]

as usual: thanks in advance

johannes
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jul 12 06:01:13 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 08:01:13 -0500
Subject: [CM] midishare
In-Reply-To: <E20593DB-B3F5-11D7-8D0D-000393B906B6@addcom.de>
Message-ID: <000801c34875$ad315210$8d197e82@music.uiuc.edu>

Did you actually install and configure the Misihare and Player
applications from the Grame ftp site and can you use their apps
successfully? If you can start their msController app and play your
synth with it then you can declare success. But until that point you
should not try to build CM with it because it wont work unless you have
installed Midishare coor3ectly. Onnce you do have it installed you will
have to recompile cm since it depends on symbols it imports from the
midishare package.
 
[midishare is installed in /Applications/ccl/darwin-headers]

only the OpenMCL  FFI to Midishare should be installed there! You can
get this FFI from CCRMA, i left a tarball of it in the cm ftp area.
This FFI is not Midishare itself.
 
There are some direction for installing MIdishare:
 
http://commonmusic.sf.net/doc/install.html#install_ms
 
BTW Please let me know if these isntall directions are unclear or
incorrect, I wrote then several weeks after I got Midishare working.
 
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jul 12 06:06:34 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 08:06:34 -0500
Subject: [CM] new CM docs in CVS
Message-ID: <000d01c34876$6c4aad40$8d197e82@music.uiuc.edu>

Ive updated cm's entire doc/ tree  including a new version of the
dictionary a new look for the home page. it is now in the cvs
repository.
If you have already installed CM ffrom CVS you get the new material by
doing
    cd cm/doc 
    cvs update -d 
 
(the "-d" is apparently necessary to add the new doc/dict directory to
your local tree)
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sat Jul 12 10:28:00 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:28:00 -0500
Subject: [CM] RE: midishare
In-Reply-To: <F28C024B-B485-11D7-8F45-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <000601c3489a$f1f98190$9c197e82@music.uiuc.edu>

On OSX I believe the Midishare package (.pkg) should install the
frameworks in:
 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare"
 
Ditto for the Player framework If they are not under
/system/library/frameworks then locate them on your machine and either
move them there or change the patname that CM is using. It may actually
be the case that CM doesnt need to check a hardwired path to determine
if it should compile midishare classes, ie it might be possible to
locate shared libs some other way on OSX but I dont know . ill have to
check or maybe someone on this list can say. Obviously Id prefer to not
hardwire the path as it currently is.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: susanne.quint at web.de [mailto:susanne.quint at web.de] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:29 AM
To: taube at uiuc.edu
Subject: midishare


in cm.lisp, is the following path meant as at the toplevel?

(if #+(and openmcl darwin)
(and (probe-file "ccl:darwin-headers;midishare;")
(probe-file
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare")) ; <- !!!???

[after installing midishare, a MidiShare.framework-folder is only in
/ccl/darwin-headers/midishare/System/Library/Frameworks/]

j 

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From johannes.quint at web.de  Sat Jul 12 15:21:07 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:21:07 +0200
Subject: [CM] RE: midishare
In-Reply-To: <000601c3489a$f1f98190$9c197e82@music.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <22005E99-B4B7-11D7-81EB-000393B906B6@web.de>


On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 07:28 PM, Rick Taube wrote:

> On OSX I believe the Midishare?package (.pkg) should install the 
> ?frameworks in:
> ?
> "/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare"
> ?
> Ditto for the Player frameworkIf they are not under 
> /system/library/frameworks then locate them on your machine and either 
> move them there orchange the patname that CM is using. It may actually 
> be the case that CM doesnt need to check a hardwired path to determine 
> if it should compile midishare classes,ie it might be possible to 
> locate shared libs some other way on OSX?but?I dont know . ill have to 
> check or maybe someone on this list can say. Obviously Id prefer to 
> not hardwire the path as it currently is.
> ?

ok, i changed the pathnames. now i have:

; Compiling 
"/Applications/cm-2.4.0/src/midishare/MidiShare-Interface.lisp".
; Loading "/Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/MidiShare-Interface.dfsl".
 > Error: Error opening shared library 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare": dyld: 
/Applications/ccl//dppccl malformed library: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare (not a Mach-O 
file, bad magic number)

j
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From taube at uiuc.edu  Sun Jul 13 05:40:56 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 07:40:56 -0500
Subject: [CM] RE: midishare
In-Reply-To: <22005E99-B4B7-11D7-81EB-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <000901c3493c$024c8320$8a197e82@music.uiuc.edu>

Im not sure what caused the libs to become corrupt. Installin midishare
on my machine worked fine with the packge I got from Grame. Ill have to
try installing from their ftp server, perhaps the version they sent me
is different than what is on their web site.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: cmdist-admin at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
[mailto:cmdist-admin at ccrma.Stanford.EDU] On Behalf Of Johannes Quint
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:21 PM
To: Rick Taube
Cc: cmdist at ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Re: [CM] RE: midishare



On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 07:28 PM, Rick Taube wrote:



On OSX I believe the Midishare package (.pkg) should install the
frameworks in:
 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare"
 
Ditto for the Player frameworkIf they are not under
/system/library/frameworks then locate them on your machine and either
move them there orchange the patname that CM is using. It may actually
be the case that CM doesnt need to check a hardwired path to determine
if it should compile midishare classes,ie it might be possible to locate
shared libs some other way on OSX but I dont know . ill have to check or
maybe someone on this list can say. Obviously Id prefer to not hardwire
the path as it currently is.
 



ok, i changed the pathnames. now i have:

; Compiling
"/Applications/cm-2.4.0/src/midishare/MidiShare-Interface.lisp".
; Loading "/Applications/cm-2.4.0/bin/MidiShare-Interface.dfsl".
> Error: Error opening shared library
"/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare": dyld:
/Applications/ccl//dppccl malformed library:
/System/Library/Frameworks/MidiShare.framework/MidiShare (not a Mach-O
file, bad magic number)

j


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From susanne.quint at web.de  Sat Jul 12 08:54:09 2003
From: susanne.quint at web.de (susanne.quint)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:54:09 +0200
Subject: [CM] midishare
In-Reply-To: <000801c34875$ad315210$8d197e82@music.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <1318AEC9-B481-11D7-8F8B-000393B906B6@web.de>


On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Rick Taube wrote:

> Did you actually install and configure the Misihare and Player 
> applications from the Grame ftp site and can you use their apps 
> successfully? If you can start their msController app and play your 
> synth with it then you can declare success. But until that point you 
> should not try to build CM with it because it wont work unless you 
> have installed Midishare coor3ectly. Onnce you do have it installed 
> you will have to recompile cm since it depends on symbols it imports 
> from the midi

thats what i've done. midishare seems to works via mscontroller but 
building cm, i get
'midishare not installed'

> share package.
> ?
> [midishare is installed in /Applications/ccl/darwin-headers]
>
> only the?OpenMCL? FFI to Midishare should be installed there! You can 
> get this FFI from CCRMA, i left a tarball of it in the cm ftp area.? 
> This FFI is not Midishare itself.
> ?

yes,, i have ffi in my ccl folder: /ccl/darwin-header/midishare/ and 
then C, constants.cdb, etc.

> There are some direction for installing MIdishare:
> ?
> http://commonmusic.sf.net/doc/install.html#install_ms
>

> ?
> BTW Please let me know if these?isntall directions are unclear or 
> incorrect, I wrote then several weeks after I got Midishare working.
> ?
>

j
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Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
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From johannes.quint at web.de  Tue Jul 15 03:53:15 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:53:15 +0200
Subject: [CM] tempo-change
Message-ID: <890688D2-B6B2-11D7-A9C8-000393B906B6@web.de>

i've written a function, which opens midifiles via sibelius instead of 
quicktime.

(set-midi-output-hook! #'sib-play-midifile)

this works fine. then i've add two functions to change time-signatures 
and tempos from bar to bar:

(define (metermsg time n d)
   (multiple-value-bind (msg data)
       (make-time-signature n d)
     (new midimsg time time msg msg data data)))

(define (tempomsg time tempo)
   (multiple-value-bind (msg data)
       (make-tempo-change tempo)
     (new midimsg time time msg msg data data)))

strange is, that the first (metermsg) works fine but the second 
(tempomsg) creates in sibelius odd tempi, i.e.
(tempomsg (now) 120)
creates in sibelius tempo 90000 or so.
is this a problem of sib or is something wrong with my code?

j.


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From taube at uiuc.edu  Tue Jul 15 14:43:01 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:43:01 -0500
Subject: [CM] tempo-change
In-Reply-To: <890688D2-B6B2-11D7-A9C8-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <4F003918-B70D-11D7-8654-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

> creates in sibelius tempo 90000 or so.
> is this a problem of sib or is something wrong with my code?

the make-tempo-change function is a low-level function that expects its 
argument to be in micro-seconds (usecs), not beats-per-minute. So add:

(define (bpm->usecs bpm)
   (floor (* 1000000 (/ 60 bpm))))

then do:

 > (tempomsg (now) (bpm->usecs 120) )


also you can use the function 'midi-file-print' to print out the 
contents of your midifiles when you want to inspect raw midi values:

 > (midi-file-print "/whatever/foo.midi")



From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul 16 07:18:38 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:18:38 -0500
Subject: [CM] tempo-change
In-Reply-To: <FC97D648-B790-11D7-9CB6-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <64EB019B-B798-11D7-9E99-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

Im sorry I havent had time to see what is going wrong with the 
Midisbhare libs. Ill try to get to it in the next day or so...

On Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003, at 08:25 America/Chicago, Johannes Quint 
wrote:

> On Dienstag, Juli 15, 2003, at 11:43  Uhr, Rick Taube wrote:
>
>> the make-tempo-change function is a low-level function that expects 
>> its argument to be in micro-seconds (usecs), not beats-per-minute. So 
>> add:
>>
>> (define (bpm->usecs bpm)
>>   (floor (* 1000000 (/ 60 bpm))))
>>
>
> ah! ...thanks very much.
> btw, midishare still doesn't work for me, can it depend on ccl? would 
> it be a good idea to reinstall it?
>
> regards j.q.
>
> __
>
> Johannes Quint
> Rilkestr.55
> D-53225 Bonn
> 0228 468256
> johannes.quint at web.de
> http://private.addcom.de/j.quint/index.htm



From taube at uiuc.edu  Wed Jul 16 07:19:59 2003
From: taube at uiuc.edu (Rick Taube)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:19:59 -0500
Subject: [CM] tempo-change
In-Reply-To: <FC97D648-B790-11D7-9CB6-000393B906B6@web.de>
Message-ID: <94E383BA-B798-11D7-9E99-000A95674CE4@uiuc.edu>

Im sorry I havent had time to track down the library problem yet, ill 
try to get to it in the next day or so.

> On Dienstag, Juli 15, 2003, at 11:43  Uhr, Rick Taube wrote:
>
>> the make-tempo-change function is a low-level function that expects 
>> its argument to be in micro-seconds (usecs), not beats-per-minute. So 
>> add:
>>
>> (define (bpm->usecs bpm)
>>   (floor (* 1000000 (/ 60 bpm))))
>>
>
> ah! ...thanks very much.
> btw, midishare still doesn't work for me, can it depend on ccl? would 
> it be a good idea to reinstall it?
>
> regards j.q.
>
> __
>
> Johannes Quint
> Rilkestr.55
> D-53225 Bonn
> 0228 468256
> johannes.quint at web.de
> http://private.addcom.de/j.quint/index.htm



From dlphilp at bright.net  Thu Jul 17 19:28:05 2003
From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:28:05 -0400
Subject: [CM] some new questions about the new Snd
Message-ID: <3F175B35.E7C4188@bright.net>

Greetings:

  I'm rewriting the material on Snd for the next edition of my book.
Obviously I'm making a *lot* of changes, and I have some questions about
the newer versions of Snd.

	1. Can Snd access the Common Music functions ? If so, can someone give
an example ?
	2. I understand that CLM is pretty much built into Snd now, so of
course I'm wondering how I might use CLM and CM together from within
Snd. Example ?
	3. What else should I be looking at in Snd-6 ?

Best regards,

== Dave Phillips

	The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
	The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org


From dlphilp at bright.net  Fri Jul 18 04:04:32 2003
From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:04:32 -0400
Subject: [CM] oh them changes...
Message-ID: <3F17D440.D2239EE5@bright.net>

Greetings:

  In v.1 of the BLMS (see sig) I was able to say that this worked:

	(jc-reverb 2.0 #f .1 #f)

  If I try that now I get this error:

	> (jc-reverb 2.0 #f .1 #f)
	"Too many arguments."
	>misc-error

  If I start removing arguments I get these errors:

	> (jc-reverb 2.0 #f .1)
	mus-channels: wrong-type-arg: Wrong type argument (expecting "a
generator"): #f
	>wrong-type-arg

  I've looked into jcrev.scm and it does look as if things have changed,
but I'm still unable to make it work. Suggestions ?

Best regards,

== Dave Phillips

	The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
	The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org


From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jul 18 05:03:20 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: 18 Jul 2003 05:03:20 -0700
Subject: [CM] some new questions about the new Snd
In-Reply-To: <3F175B35.E7C4188@bright.net>
References: <3F175B35.E7C4188@bright.net>
Message-ID: <1058529800.31927.23.camel@cmn30.stanford.edu>

>   I'm rewriting the material on Snd for the next edition of my book.
> Obviously I'm making a *lot* of changes, and I have some 
> questions about the newer versions of Snd.

Great!  I look forward to reading it.  I'll check the first version
later today and send along whatever comes to mind.

> 
>         1. Can Snd access the Common Music functions ? If so,
> can someone give an example ?

I think so -- I'll try to get to this today.

> 
>   I've looked into jcrev.scm and it does look as if things have 
> changed, but I'm still unable to make it work. Suggestions ?

The new versions of the CLM-based instruments all now assume 
they're used within with-sound or some equivalent.  A quick example:

  (with-sound (:reverb jc-reverb) 
    (fm-violin 0 .1 440 .1 :reverb-amount .2))





From fdowling at tcd.ie  Fri Jul 18 17:10:42 2003
From: fdowling at tcd.ie (fdowling)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:10:42 +0100
Subject: [CM] modulo function ?
Message-ID: <3F4CF7B6@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie>

Hi,
How do I access a modulo (%) function?
Cheers,
Fergal Dowling



From johannes.quint at web.de  Sat Jul 19 00:29:22 2003
From: johannes.quint at web.de (Johannes Quint)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:29:22 +0200
Subject: [CM] modulo function ?
In-Reply-To: <3F4CF7B6@ntserver-e2w2.tcd.ie>
Message-ID: <B7699F6A-B9BA-11D7-ACBD-000393B906B6@web.de>


On Samstag, Juli 19, 2003, at 02:10  Uhr, fdowling wrote:

> Hi,
> How do I access a modulo (%) function?
> Cheers,
> Fergal Dowling

(mod x y)

__

Johannes Quint
Rilkestr.55
D-53225 Bonn
0228 468256
johannes.quint at web.de
http://private.addcom.de/j.quint/index.htm
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From bbattey at u.washington.edu  Thu Jul 24 16:26:51 2003
From: bbattey at u.washington.edu (Bret F Battey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:26:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] wrapper macro strategies
In-Reply-To: <BB14B813.2C2A%bbattey@u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307241626510.6315@hymn16.u.washington.edu>

Hi all,

Since I chain a lot of processors, I'm writing wrapper macros for some of the many CLM instruments that don't already have them. (I'll be very, very happy when I never have to use a 'sound-let' in my code.)

Interesting code problems I can't figure out while trying to make two wrappers for a 'balance' instrument:

(1)

One should be able to do:

(balance-sounds () (mix soundfile1) (mix soundfile2))

But given that defmacro can only take one &body, I'm really not sure on how to pull this off.

Or one can do 

(balance-sounds () ((mix soundfile1) (mix soundfile2)))

but it still not clear to me how to pull apart the body in a way that functions correctly.

(2)

If that can be solved, the next challenge is to make a balance wrapper that works for the most common situation: where you need to balance a processed file against the original unprocessed file. Given an already existing wrapper macro 'contrast-sound', one should be able to do something like the following to compensate for the tendency of 'contrast' to amplify a sound:

(balance-processed-sound () (contrast-sound (:fm-index 2) (mix soundfile1)))

or maybe

(balance-processed-sound () (contrast (:fm-index 2)) (mix soundfile1))

Any hints will be appreciated,

-=Bret Battey







From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Fri Jul 25 05:30:10 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:30:10 -0700
Subject: [CM] wrapper macro strategies
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307241626510.6315@hymn16.u.washington.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307241626510.6315@hymn16.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <3F2122D2.8070405@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Bret F Battey wrote:

>(balance-sounds () (mix soundfile1) (mix soundfile2))
>
>But given that defmacro can only take one &body, I'm really not sure on how to pull this off.
>  
>
sound.lisp has several examples -- &body is a list of all the statements 
in the
body of the macro, so you can use ,.body or , at body to plug them in anywhere.
A very simple example is

(defmacro without-warnings (&body body) `(progn ,.body))

For (balance-processed-sound () (contrast-sound (:fm-index 2) (mix soundfile1))),
I'd save the maxamp (or whatever) of soundfile1, save the output of contrast-sound
via sound-let, get the ratio to match the original, scale the new output, mixing
that into the overall output.  sound-let's can be nested, as can with-sound's.
If you get stuck, send me the actual code you're trying to use.








From JBenham at mktadvantage.com  Fri Jul 25 10:34:19 2003
From: JBenham at mktadvantage.com (Jeremiah Benham)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:34:19 -0500
Subject: [CM] snd in Debian problem
Message-ID: <33159FBEF39BD31196A9009027DE963501325C76@mad8.Evanston>

I could never get any of snd packages from the .deb archive to work
correctly.  They all segfaulted.  

I then decided to roll my own.  Snd 6.9 works fine but with a few problems.
Whe I try to use David Phillips guile extensions it segfaults with no other
error.  The other problem I have is that the listener window does not work.
What do you mean does not work you may ask.  I mean I type (+ 1 2) and the
cursor then moves under neath the ( when I hit enter.  

What should I look into to try to correct this issue.

Thanks,
Jeremiah
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From bbattey at u.washington.edu  Fri Jul 25 11:21:55 2003
From: bbattey at u.washington.edu (Bret F Battey)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CM] wrapper macro strategies
In-Reply-To: <3F2122D2.8070405@ccrma.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307251121550.28242@hymn13.u.washington.edu>

Oops, sorry, I should have been clearer:
I already know how to make basic wrapper macros using &body. What I can't crack is 
how to write a macro 'balance-sounds' that could turn this (for example):

(balance-sounds () (mix soundfile1) (mix soundfile2))

into 

(sound-let ((temp1 () (mix soundfile2))
           (sound-let ((temp2 () (mix soundfile2)))
                (balance temp1 temp2))))

or  a macro 'balance-sound-process':

(balance-sound-process () (contrast (:fm-index '(0 0 1 2))) (mix soundfile2)))

expanding into

(sound-let ((temp1 () (mix soundfile2))
           (sound-let ((temp2 () (contrast temp1 :fm-index '(0 0 1 2))))
                (balance temp2 temp1))))

(My paren's are probably off because I'm typing right into email)

The specific problem being that &body -- which would contain both the source sound 
specification and the contrast specification -- has to be split into two parts somehow...

[Also, this later example shows that I'm varying fm-index continuously, so I need a 
continuous adaptation of gain on the sound -- hence using balance rather than a 
single overall gain control based on relative peak values.]

Bret Battey                                     http://BatHatMedia.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Research Associate
Center for Digital Arts and Experimental Media
University of Washington, Seattle    http://www.washington.edu/dxarts/



On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> Bret F Battey wrote:
> 
> >(balance-sounds () (mix soundfile1) (mix soundfile2))
> >
> >But given that defmacro can only take one &body, I'm really not sure on how to pull 
this off.
> >  
> >
> sound.lisp has several examples -- &body is a list of all the statements 
> in the
> body of the macro, so you can use ,.body or , at body to plug them in anywhere.
> A very simple example is
> 
> (defmacro without-warnings (&body body) `(progn ,.body))
> 
> For (balance-processed-sound () (contrast-sound (:fm-index 2) (mix soundfile1))),
> I'd save the maxamp (or whatever) of soundfile1, save the output of contrast-sound
> via sound-let, get the ratio to match the original, scale the new output, mixing
> that into the overall output.  sound-let's can be nested, as can with-sound's.
> If you get stuck, send me the actual code you're trying to use.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




From dlphilp at bright.net  Fri Jul 25 11:36:21 2003
From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:36:21 -0400
Subject: [CM] snd in Debian problem
References: <33159FBEF39BD31196A9009027DE963501325C76@mad8.Evanston>
Message-ID: <3F2178A5.CA6D1680@bright.net>

Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> 
> I could never get any of snd packages from the .deb archive to work
> correctly.  They all segfaulted.
> 
> I then decided to roll my own.  Snd 6.9 works fine but with a few
> problems.  Whe I try to use David Phillips guile extensions it
> segfaults with no other error.  The other problem I have is that the
> listener window does not work.  What do you mean does not work you may
> ask.  I mean I type (+ 1 2) and the cursor then moves under neath the
> ( when I hit enter.
> 
> What should I look into to try to correct this issue.

First, let us know what GUI toolkit you've built Snd with (Motif,
Lesstif, or GTK). Next, tell us what version of Guile you're using.
We'll go forth from there... :)

Best regards,

== dp


From taube at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu  Fri Jul 25 20:00:38 2003
From: taube at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (taube heinrich)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:00:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [CM] wrapper macro strategies
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307251121550.28242@hymn13.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0307252147090.8911-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>


On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Bret F Battey wrote:

> Oops, sorry, I should have been clearer:
> I already know how to make basic wrapper macros using &body. What I can't crack is
> how to write a macro 'balance-sounds' that could turn this (for example):

do you really need &body statements or can you assume (for example) that the macro
will always balance just two "sound expressions"? if so, then its really simple you
could do something like:

(defmacro balance-sounds (expr1 expr2)
  (let ((var1 (gentemp "temp"))
        (var2 (gentemp "temp")))
    `(sound-let ((,var1 () ,expr1))
        (sound-let ((,var2 () ,expr2))
             (balance ,var1 ,var2)))))

balancing an arbitrary number of sounds is slightly more complex --
one way would be to recursivly iterate the &body
exprs and wrap the results of each recursive iteration in a sound-let.
i could probably cobble  this up but not in Pine where I am typing this
message!



From justinrosander at access-4-free.com  Sun Jul 27 23:49:17 2003
From: justinrosander at access-4-free.com (justin)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:49:17 -0500
Subject: [CM] SND 6.1 segfault
Message-ID: <200307280149.17241.justinrosander@access-4-free.com>

Hello there,
Just wondering.......
I could only get snd to run without segfaulting by placing all the *.html 
documentation in my home directory.  I just thought that was a little 
strange...
I don't necessarily mind having the documentation in my home directories, but 
I'm curious if the same problem was noticed by others....
Justin
-- 
"I drank what?"
  --Socrates


From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 28 04:45:19 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:45:19 -0700
Subject: [CM] SND 6.1 segfault
In-Reply-To: <200307280149.17241.justinrosander@access-4-free.com>
References: <200307280149.17241.justinrosander@access-4-free.com>
Message-ID: <3F250CCF.6050803@ccrma.stanford.edu>

justin wrote:

>I could only get snd to run without segfaulting by placing all the *.html 
>documentation in my home directory.  I just thought that was a little 
>strange...
>  
>
At some point (snd 6.1 apparently!) I had some startup code to find the 
Snd documentation
for the help system, and it could segfault if something was awry from 
its limited point
of view.  If possible, get the current version (6.10 or 6.11) and try 
it.  If you have gdb,
it is sometimes helpful to

gdb snd
run
<get it to segfault>
where

Which can tell me where the error occurred, on a good day.




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Mon Jul 28 04:48:20 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:48:20 -0700
Subject: [CM] snd in Debian problem
In-Reply-To: <33159FBEF39BD31196A9009027DE963501325C76@mad8.Evanston>
References: <33159FBEF39BD31196A9009027DE963501325C76@mad8.Evanston>
Message-ID: <3F250D84.3010307@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Jeremiah Benham wrote:

> I could never get any of snd packages from the .deb archive to work 
> correctly.  They all segfaulted. 
>
> I then decided to roll my own.  Snd 6.9 works fine but with a few 
> problems.  Whe I try to use David Phillips guile extensions it 
> segfaults with no other error.  The other problem I have is that the 
> listener window does not work.  What do you mean does not work you may 
> ask.  I mean I type (+ 1 2) and the cursor then moves under neath the 
> ( when I hit enter. 
>
If you're using Lesstif, all bets are off.  Otherwise, please run Snd 
under gdb,
and send me the stack trace -- thanks!




From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Tue Jul 29 04:40:27 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:40:27 -0700
Subject: [CM] wrapper macro strategies
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307251121550.28242@hymn13.u.washington.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0307251121550.28242@hymn13.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <3F265D2B.5070900@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Perhaps this is closer to what you want:

(defmacro balance-sounds (&rest exprs)
  (let* ((temps '())
     (calls (mapcar #'(lambda (expr)
                  (let ((tmp (gentemp)))
                (push tmp temps)
                (list tmp expr)))
              exprs)))
    `(sound-let ,calls
    (balance , at temps))))

or (balance ,@(reverse temps)) -- not sure which order you want.




From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Thu Jul 31 04:08:23 2003
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:08:23 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311303090.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>

Hi, here is a script for using ladspa plugins in snd.
I think its rather nice. Its a bit like Dave Phillips
script, but more general since it automaticly builds
up the menues and dialogs instead of using predefined ones.
And it has realtime preview.
http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/snd/ladspa.scm
Feel free to do whatever you want with it. Public domain.


-- 



From dlphilp at bright.net  Thu Jul 31 04:58:34 2003
From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:58:34 -0400
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311303090.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <3F29046A.73A41C53@bright.net>

Hi Kjetil:

  Wow, what a nice improvement ! I recommend replacing my hard-coded
stuff with your work, it's much more flexible.

  I haven't tested the preview functions yet, I'll give them a workout
later today.

  One minor problem: the dialogs are BIG, maybe too big. I'm not sure
how we could reduce the width without removing some buttons: any
suggestions ?

  Nice work, Kjetil. Thanks for adding this code to Snd !

Best regards,

== Dave Phillips

	The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
	The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org

Currently listening to: Harold Budd & Brian Eno, "Their Memories"


"Kjetil S. Matheussen" wrote:
> 
> Hi, here is a script for using ladspa plugins in snd.
> I think its rather nice. Its a bit like Dave Phillips
> script, but more general since it automaticly builds
> up the menues and dialogs instead of using predefined ones.
> And it has realtime preview.
> http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/snd/ladspa.scm
> Feel free to do whatever you want with it. Public domain.
> 
> --
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Cmdist mailing list
> Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist


From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Thu Jul 31 05:27:43 2003
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:27:43 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
In-Reply-To: <3F29046A.73A41C53@bright.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311420480.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>


On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Dave Phillips wrote:

> Hi Kjetil:
>
>   Wow, what a nice improvement ! I recommend replacing my hard-coded
> stuff with your work, it's much more flexible.
>
>   I haven't tested the preview functions yet, I'll give them a workout
> later today.
>
>   One minor problem: the dialogs are BIG, maybe too big. I'm not sure
> how we could reduce the width without removing some buttons: any
> suggestions ?
>
>   Nice work, Kjetil. Thanks for adding this code to Snd !
>

Thank you very much. I think it would be nice if the buttons were like
this:

[Preview] [OK] [Cancel]

Or something similar. However, the preview function sort of kind of
doesnt work very well. So thats why theres all those
apply/undo/redo/play/stop combination buttons.

So to make the above design make sense, the preview function needs
to be fixed properly. And I'm not sure how to do that. I guess
its enough to make a new apply-ladspa c-function that doesnt
store undo or update graphics?

Or perhaps, is it possible to turn off undo adding and graphics update? I
didn't find a way to do that.



> Best regards,
>
> == Dave Phillips
>
> 	The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
> 	The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org
>
> Currently listening to: Harold Budd & Brian Eno, "Their Memories"
>
>
> "Kjetil S. Matheussen" wrote:
> >
> > Hi, here is a script for using ladspa plugins in snd.
> > I think its rather nice. Its a bit like Dave Phillips
> > script, but more general since it automaticly builds
> > up the menues and dialogs instead of using predefined ones.
> > And it has realtime preview.
> > http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/snd/ladspa.scm
> > Feel free to do whatever you want with it. Public domain.
> >
> > --
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cmdist mailing list
> > Cmdist at ccrma.stanford.edu
> > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
>



From bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU  Thu Jul 31 06:14:58 2003
From: bil at ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:14:58 -0700
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311303090.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311303090.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <3F291652.2000803@ccrma.stanford.edu>

Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:

>Hi, here is a script for using ladspa plugins in snd.
>
>  
>

Thanks!  I'll check it out later today.  I notice a comment about
finding the number of inputs and outputs for a plugin -- perhaps
we could add a way to readback whatever info a ladspa plugin
provides, similar (in spirit anyway) to mus-audio-mixer-read?




From k.s.matheussen at notam02.no  Thu Jul 31 06:51:28 2003
From: k.s.matheussen at notam02.no (Kjetil S. Matheussen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:51:28 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
In-Reply-To: <3F291652.2000803@ccrma.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311545550.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>


On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>
> >Hi, here is a script for using ladspa plugins in snd.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks!  I'll check it out later today.  I notice a comment about
> finding the number of inputs and outputs for a plugin -- perhaps
> we could add a way to readback whatever info a ladspa plugin
> provides, similar (in spirit anyway) to mus-audio-mixer-read?
>

That would be very nice. It would also be nice to be able to get
the default hints of a ladspa plugin.


-- 



From dlphilp at bright.net  Thu Jul 31 07:50:48 2003
From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:50:48 -0400
Subject: [CM] Ladspa stuff for snd.
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307311420480.14173-100000@ulrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <3F292CC8.73ABA6B@bright.net>

"Kjetil S. Matheussen" wrote:

> I think it would be nice if the buttons were like this:
> 
> [Preview] [OK] [Cancel]
> 
> Or something similar. However, the preview function sort of kind of
> doesnt work very well. So thats why theres all those
> apply/undo/redo/play/stop combination buttons.

What about pressing the Preview button to call a preview-dialog which
would contain those other controls ? Is that practical (once the preview
function itself works) ?

== dlp


From afc_asti at allmail.net  Thu Jul 31 22:51:00 2003
From: afc_asti at allmail.net (kasti)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:51:00 -0800
Subject: [CM] How to evaluate a .cm file
Message-ID: <20030801055100.0EFC037B1E@www.fastmail.fm>

Hello!

I've been getting a problem, after making a .cm file with some
programming -defined to be used in the future with different values to
get different musical excerpts-, I got stuck 
when loading it inside the Interpreter (it's like loading nothing because
I have to write it from scratch in the interpreter), it just don't
evaluate

    (load "whatever.cm")

If this command is not enough to make the interpreter evaluate the file,
what 
more do i need?

Thanks in advance !-)
-- 
  andr?s f. castiblanco v.
  e-mail address: afc_asti at allmail.net

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