ok got started on clm compiled clisp (load "all.lisp") from clm-2 (compile-file "pvoc.ins") (load "pvoc") (with-sound ( ) (pvoc "marcel2.au" 10 :time-stretch 5 :harmonic-mirror-env ' (0 0 20 0 50 1000 70 1000 80 0 100 0) :fftsize 1024)) and duchamp squeals for a solid 50 seconds........... this is fun stuff.... Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/