[CM] Franz ACL CM install ?

Juan Pampin juan@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:50:13 -0700 (PDT)


On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Charlieb wrote:

> Well ,after several attempts, I did get clm-cmn-cm2.3.4 to compile in the
> ACL trial edition:
> but ATS failed.
> All the problems stemed from Franz putting a rather small stack space
> allowance in the kernel...anything large ("enterprise sized"), and it just
> doesn;t compile. Whereas if you take severl passes at compiling the other
> CCRMA/UIUC lisp code, you can gety it to just barely squeeze in, if you
> try anything that is memory intensive (such as ATS), it will not compile.
> 
> I called ACL trial's memory ceiling "draconian" when I downloaded it, but
> I don't think Franz paid too much attention...they don;t mind us music
> types too much, as long as we pay like the big boys: unfortunately, we're
> often cash l;imited. Like me.
> I have to point out that Digitool's excellent MCL is now < $100....
> now, if can get Franz to pay attention...the avg. hobbyist would kick out
> $100-$200 , anymore, and...well...And another side of that
> arguement
> (that *I'll* never get a chance to make to Franz) is that enterprises
> rarely order single licences, (unless they intend to cheat), and the main
> effect of a poperly used single license is to develop another skilled Lisp
> coder, one who hopefully is attached to your dev environment, and will
> sell it to employers.
> 
> OK, nuf b***chin' 'bout Franz...I love ACL, I just can;t afford it.
> 
> CharlieB
> 
> 
> *********************************************
> Charlie Baker              baker@charlieb.com
>  "when everything isn't roses, you don't get
>    any headroom" - Thomas Dolby "New Toy"
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> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Rick Taube wrote:
> 
> > cm should run in acl 6.1 on windows or linux. in either case you will have to take the SOURCE archive and build cm on your machine. i think the url to the windows source is
> > ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/cm/sources/cm-2.3.4.zip
> >
> >
> > Message -----
> >   From: Adam Chennells
> >   To: Cmdist@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
> >   Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 6:25 AM
> >   Subject: [CM] Franz ACL CM install ?
> >
> >
> >   The Franz ACL 6.1 Trial lisp seems very full-blown,
> >   and well documented.
> >
> >   Can anyone suggest whether CM will run on this
> >   release, as is.
> >
> >   The CM-2.3.4.zip release of May was only 589KB, smaller
> >   than the CM-2.3.4-WIN32.zip of 2.4MB.
> >
> >   So I wonder which source to look at first.
> >
> >   Is there a recent Installation Guide for CM that may cover this ?
> >
> >   I am prepared for a build-cm somewhere down the line
> >   but just wonder were my best instructions are for such
> >   a build process. (A windows Intel PII platform).
> >
> >   Thanks in advance for any comments.
> >
> >   Adam Chennells.
> >
> >
> 
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